/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.18908877]

It could be said that most of the arts are dominated by leftists, including literature. Despite this, some of the best writers were right leaning (Celine, Junger, Hamsun, Dostoyevsky, Mishima). Why does it seem like literature is the only art where there are prominent figures who are right wing? Do you know famous right leaning people in other artistic disciplines?

[Anonymous No.18908905]

>>18908877
Ignacio Zuloaga was a prominent Spanish painter in the late 19th century. I don't really know of any other explicitly conservative painters but I'm guessing people like Jerome and JL David were.

[Anonymous No.18908916]

>>18908877
>>18908905
One of my favorite paintings picrel

[Anonymous No.18908978]

I imagine plenty of prominent figures in other fields are closet conservatives

[Anonymous No.18908999]

>>18908877
>Celine
Thomas Bernhard was a leftist

>Junger
Cioran was a leftist

>Hamsun
Kafka was a leftist

>Dostoyevsky
Tolstoy was a leftist

>Mishima
Dazai was a leftist

[Anonymous No.18909006]

>>18908999
>Dazai was a leftist
Really? It was hilarious when he mocked marxist revolutionaries in one of his books.

[Anonymous No.18909014]

>>18908877
>literature is the only art where there are prominent figures who are right wing?
Every Musician before c.18th century can be seen as having "right wing" values (family, religion, folk, etc.).
This also applies for praticaly every painter, sculptor, architect, and so on.
Even in modernist movements there are many right wingers (I'm using this term not to describe the bourgeois who goes to sunday mass for social enhancement, but the one who upholds traditional conceptions of life before capitalism), which are mostly inspired by figures like Nietzsche. Evola was in the «Dada» movement. Wyndham Lewis was a co-founder of the «Vorticist» movement. Futurism sought to be the art of the fascist state.
From playwriters, to poets, to novelists, the "right wing" has made an impact with its oeuvre.
This goes without saying, but "left wing" art is to be appreciated, for they have produced magnificent pieces.

[Anonymous No.18909018]

>>18908999
What does this have to do with what OP asked?

[Anonymous No.18909019]

>>18908999
All the authors you replied with suck though, and Kafka was known for plagiarizing Hamsun, and Tolstoy was not a leftist in any traditional sense at all, would be like calling Sorel or Lenin a leftist.Cioran is also not a leftist zero clue where you got that from.

[Anonymous No.18909024]

>>18909006
In whole book he was mocking himself for being a clown, so he mocked everything he did in life. Nonetheless he was a member of Communist party for many years and even got arrested for it.

[Anonymous No.18909025]

>>18908999
>Bernhard
Never heard of him.

>Cioran
Never heard of him.

>Tolstoy
Have heard of him but he's less left leaning and more Centrist Christian Anarchist, I'd say,

>Dazai
Japanese emo. Muh no longer human.

1/2 of your people are nobodies. And the other half consist of a Centrist and the other is a proto - an hero.

[Anonymous No.18909031]

>>18908999
Cioran was a fascist

[Anonymous No.18909032]

>>18909024
Everyone does stupid things when they're young. That's not very convincing. So was Camus and he became an anti-marxist. I'm not saying he's right wing, I don't care about labels like that, I really doubt he was a marxist.

[Anonymous No.18909033]

>>18909025
Literally cioran is only known because of le emo anti natalist retards and nick land so kinda pathetic example of a good writer

[Anonymous No.18909035]

>>18909019
Holy cope regarding literary merit
Tolstoy was literally an anarchist. I have read Cioran interview in which said that he would prefer leftist government with authority.

[Anonymous No.18909037]

>>18909024
Oh yeah and he wasn't mocking himself. He was mocking marxism and revolutionaries not the main character of the book.

[Anonymous No.18909039]

>>18908877
lol lefties, being correct, dominate everything

go cope seethe etc

[Anonymous No.18909041]

>>18909025
>>Bernhard
>Never heard of him.
>>Cioran
>Never heard of him.
Kek nice way to out yourself as a filthy pleb

[Anonymous No.18909045]

>>18909035
You realize 1800s anarchism/mutualism has nothing to do with modern anarchism and that Proudhon and Tolstoy have more agreement with Mussolini than Bakunin, also Cioran Dazai and Kafka suck

[Anonymous No.18909060]

>>18909041
Happy you consider me a pleb, if I was well read in your eyes I would shoot myself for the wasted time of reading such shit literature

[Anonymous No.18909061]

>>18909037
>Oh yeah and he wasn't mocking himself
Congratulations for completely missing the point of that novel

>>18909045
Kek, oh yes the same pacifist Tolstoy who remembering his poverty of the peasants on his death, who was disgusted with the murders he committed in his youth is same as the Italian subhuman who invaded countries to prove how much of a man he was.

Cope harder

[Anonymous No.18909063]

>>18908877

>Celine
who?

>Junger
shit

>Hamsun
shit

>Dostoevsky
shit

>Mishima
shit
gook
gay

[Anonymous No.18909069]

>>18909061
You’re retarded if you think tolstoy was a modern leftist, read lenin on left communism if you think any of the marxist leninists or pre marxists leninists were on your side: one thing to note uneducated retard, just because these people are foundational to leftist philosophy doesn’t make them leftist.All of them would have trannies strung up on lamp posts so dilate seeth and cope.

[Anonymous No.18909072]

>>18909061
>missing the point
You didn't even read it dumbass, come back when you do. Being a former marxist isn't the same as being a marxist at all.

[Anonymous No.18909073]

>>18909063
Filtered

[Anonymous No.18909082]

>>18909069
Ah yes now trannies define the whole political spectrum. Your tranny obsession is disgusting. Even butters hate trannies and she is the most vocal anarchist on this board but this is besides the point. Anarchists like Murray Bookchin carried the tradition of classic anarchism to present day. But sure keep fighting the your mental demons and keep trying to claim leftist history.

[Anonymous No.18909084]

It's funny everytime a marxist claims Camus as one of their own too.

[Anonymous No.18909090]

>>18909072
Dazai mocked himself in that novel. And the punchline of that novel was himself, his clowning. That was the whole point but nonetheless he took action for a Communist cause.

[Anonymous No.18909094]

>>18909069
You really need to stop obsessing over trannies, anon. They're only a minute amount of the population. Irrelevant in the grand scheme of things

[Anonymous No.18909097]

>>18909082
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/lwc/

You realize Lenin,Marx,Proudhon, and Tolstoy all hated gays, blacks, trannies, jew and women and that tolstoy was a vehement christian right? Also you know that they all believed in protectionist economics (you know who else does le jaw opens donald trump!!!!) if you think this fits in with your standard of modern left communism or modern “leftist” politics as a whole you’re a retarded revisionist, the fact you think bookchin is even relevant is proof of that

[Anonymous No.18909102]

>>18909082
>>18909094
Dilate, ingest polyunsaturated seed oils, consoom and cope

[Anonymous No.18909109]

>>18909102
How many times have you typed the word "dilate" in your life anon? Does it make you any happier when you do so?

[Anonymous No.18909115]

>>18909097
You're same as liberal cunts who solely believe in identity issues. Leftism is about economic struggle first and foremost. All of this identity bullshit of white, gay, black, jew, alien, dick, cunt etc. is secondary. Churchcucks labelled Tolstoy as heretic and he was far from being a resentful le based and redpilled 4chan Christian. But sure keep coping.

[Anonymous No.18909116]

>>18909109
Yes it does, dilate

[Anonymous No.18909128]

>>18909115
What leftists today believe in economic issues? What do you even consider leftist at this point, you are genuinely retarded. You have missed my point completely that just because something is foundational to leftist literature doesn’t make it leftist. Trade unions do not exist anymore, this isnt the 1920s. Every popular “socialist” figure now adays is just a social democrat, and never in history were the words leftist or socialist synonymous, you are just a pathetic coping /leftypol/ reject. Even lenin is respectable enough to call leftism an infantile effeminate brain tumor and yet you think he’d agree with you exactly or that Proudhon/Bakunin somehow wouldn’t care about identity politics even though their ideologies were born out of the french revolution.

[Anonymous No.18909135]

>>18909128
Ah, yes finally the mutt brain has spoken. All Republicans are fascist and all democrats are communists.

[Anonymous No.18909137]

>>18909115
Fear of identity politics is just petit bourgeoisie cope and you will find yourself wishing you embraced it on the day of the rope whether it comes from one side of the isle or the other

[Anonymous No.18909138]

>>18908905
JL David was a committed Jacobin

[Anonymous No.18909139]

>>18908877
>It could be said that most of the arts are dominated by leftists
Leftists have gaslighted everyone into thinking art, or any intellectual pursuit for that matter, is intrinsically leftist. For anyone well read it's obviously bullshit, but It kind of worked though, because since the second half of the 20th century art has been indeed dominated by leftists, and I don't think it's a coincidence that the quality has also declined.

[Anonymous No.18909140]

>>18909135
I’m not american but cope harder I guess

[Anonymous No.18909142]

>>18909115
>Leftism is about economic struggle
Ok grandpa

[Anonymous No.18909144]

>>18909019
>Lenin is not a leftist
Kill yourself immediately

[Anonymous No.18909149]

>The political is not compatible with the artistic, because the former, in order to prove, has to be one-sided.
t. Tolstoy

every artist who is perceived as political, is defective, incomplete.
create a complete artwork and you automatically outshine every leftist halfling or his reactionary sparring partner.

[Anonymous No.18909151]

>>18909144
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/lwc/

Why don’t you

[Anonymous No.18909152]

>>18909137
>>18909142
I am from 3rd world so I don't give a fuck your corporatist programming fucking idpol libs.

>>18909140
Arguments still stands.

[Anonymous No.18909155]

>>18909152
Ok I’m sorry you’re nigger skull can’t process basic english

[Anonymous No.18909161]

>>18909115
>Leftism is about economic struggle first and foremost
Leftism has always been about identity. Robespierre was obsessed with the poor, but not in a Marxist kind of way, but becase he saw them as purer souls, like some sorts of modern noble savages, not unlike how blacks are treated nowadays.
Also to equate leftism to communism/marxism as in "only communists are leftists and everyone else are right wingers" is fucking stupid. Marx wasn't even born during the french revolution. If you sent "radical right wingers" like Ben Shapiro or Jordan Peterson to the past they would be considered radical leftists instead.

[Anonymous No.18909163]

>>18909135
That's not his argument.
>>18909144
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Left-Wing%22_Communism:_An_Infantile_Disorder
>>18909152
>your corporatist programming fucking idpol libs
You know that corporations fear and silence european ethnic identity since they know it is a hinderence to the ever expansion of techno-capital.
>Arguments still stands.
no it doesn't, since it was not his argument and you strawmanned him

[Anonymous No.18909165]

>>18909155
Kek le spiritual Anglo strikes again.

[Anonymous No.18909166]

>>18908877
This thread is getting redpilled so the jannies will delete it soon.

[Anonymous No.18909167]

>>18909039
But they're not correct

[Anonymous No.18909168]

>>18909166
Fuck the jannies men, for real.

[Anonymous No.18909180]

art is only perceived as being leftist because art hit a point where the only way to be unique and stand out was to be intentionally degenerate, so the art community began to more and more coalesce with the absolute worst bottom of the barrel people. the vast majority of actually truly beautiful art in all forms is conservative. music, architecture, literature, all of it.

[Anonymous No.18909184]

>>18909180
> the vast majority of actually truly beautiful art in all forms is conservative. music, architecture, literature, all of it.
Such as?

[Anonymous No.18909195]

>>18908877
>Do you know famous right leaning people in other artistic disciplines?
You mean everyone since histories conception? What a retarded fucking question.

[Anonymous No.18909201]

>>18909195
Obviously after the French Revolution, you moron

[Anonymous No.18909219]

>>18909184
i think it mostly goes without saying really, virtually all of the most beautiful music humanity has produced was made with extremely heavy religious influence. modern architecture mostly heinous, and any attempt to dial it back is seen as white supremacy (see the attempts in the US to regulate the architecture of government buildings to make them less fugly and all the "rreeeeeeing" people did about that) more conservatives authers are MUCH better at exploring the human condition because they arent getting caught up in trying to moralize and justify shitty behavior, they're much better at objectively exploring what makes people tick so to speak, how humans are manipulated by their environment and their own subconscious, whereas progressive-minded authors tend to take behavior or ideas at face value then try to build them into some noble thing that isn't, make excuses for them etc.

[Anonymous No.18909225]

>>18909201
I guess that means every left winger of the french revolution was a marxist communist and every right winger a Burkean Kantian, your standards are atrocious

[Anonymous No.18909234]

>>18909225
Every left winger of the french revolution is a nazi in contemporary terms

[Anonymous No.18909235]

>>18909225
>Burkean Kantian
Shut up fucking pseud

[Anonymous No.18909261]

>>18909234
Isn't it convenient for the left that whenever they get their way they redefine what it means to be a moderate? Why people keep falling for this shit?

[Anonymous No.18909364]

>>18908877
Céline wasn't right wing, he was a socialist who grew too cynical to believe in the revolution or anything else really. He is a cynic.

[Anonymous No.18909377]

[Anonymous No.18909381]

>>18909377
>hahaha le 8 values ultra subtle megabrain
Politics in the west are dialectically structured around a right-left dynamic divide for 250 years, deal with it.

[Anonymous No.18909388]

>>18909381
i wasn't expecting you to get the point

[Anonymous No.18909482]

>>18909364
>he was a socialist
Yes, a national socialist

[Anonymous No.18909488]

>>18909115
Have you read the Kreutzer Sonata? He might be considered leftist economically, but socially he was certainly a reactionary, not unlike his mentor Arthur Schopenhauer.

[Anonymous No.18909492]

>>18908877
Celine was an anarchist, he regretted supporting the nazi party and started hating hitler in his late life

[Anonymous No.18910207]

>>18908905
Salvador Dali supported Franco.

[Anonymous No.18910211]

This was a very informative thread. I will be bookmarking it for future reference. Thanks fellow 4channers! Based!

[Anonymous No.18910235]

>>18909377
Based dubs of truth.
Keep wasting your time over spooks that have nothing to do with literature retards.

[Anonymous No.18910243]

>>18910211
no need to bookmark it fren, we're gonna have it every day until the end of time!

[Anonymous No.18910271]

>>18909492
He never apologized for his support of nazism or his books lambasting jews. To reduce him to an “anarchist” is a misrepresentation given what that word means today (black block spergs). He defended the White race against jewish globohomo and that is what counts.

“To be or not to be Aryan, that is the question!”

[Anonymous No.18910284]

>>18908877
Letters has always been aristocratic. A uneducated laborer could not be a man of letters technically speaking. He could, however, be a painter or a sculptor. But obviously, all of these fluctuates to a greater or lesser degree across times. Today, most authors are left-leaning for sure.

[Anonymous No.18910291]

>>18909006
He was a member of the communist party at one point and endorsed revolutionary ideas but to take them at face value misses the point. He was a member and endorsed them because he was desperate to find meaning.

[Anonymous No.18910301]

>>18909033
Cioran was a great writer but he wasn’t a leftist.

[Anonymous No.18910317]

>>18909149
Most of these are not really “rightist” or “leftist” though. They’re attempts to categorize people in an objective way, but of course it’s not objective.

[Anonymous No.18910326]

>>18909364
>he was a socialist
>actually he was le cynic who didnt believe in anything
He was cynical but not a nihilist. His idea of socialism was “Aryan communism, without Jews”. Cope, seethe, dilate, etc.

[Anonymous No.18910332]

>>18910271
>French
>White

[Anonymous No.18910359]

>>18910332
Yes, Herschel.

[Anonymous No.18910426]

>>18910359
NO.

[Anonymous No.18910518]

>>18910332
This is the Aryan Race and Germanic Culture to which Noble Wolf belonged to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG3kfV8qcuw

[Anonymous No.18910534]

>>18910207
Dali was just a shitposter, he didnt care about fascism so much as mocking the commie surrealists who claimed to have to transgressed all morals and norms

[Anonymous No.18910580]

>>18908877
Right wing doesn’t exist

[Anonymous No.18910626]

>>18910284
You're wrong
Hamsun was poor as fuck in his youth and did odd jobs for his survival

[Anonymous No.18910628]

>>18910534
Shh don't tell him

[Anonymous No.18910635]

>>18910271
>“To be or not to be Aryan, that is the question!”
Kek you can't smell the irony, innit?

[Anonymous No.18910698]

>>18910626
> you’re wrong because this one guy that lived once wasn’t like that and exceptions are rules

[Anonymous No.18910783]

>>18908877
>Caring about the political leanings of the author beyond a mere curiosity about their personal lives
You've been filtered OP.
>>18909069
Yea, about Tolstoy:
>The Scientific-Humanitarian Committee (German: Wissenschaftlich-humanitäres Komitee, WhK) was founded by Magnus Hirschfeld in Berlin on 14 or 15 May 1897, to campaign for social recognition of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people, and against their legal persecution
> They sent thousands of letters to key figures such as Catholic priests, judges, lawmakers, journalists, and mayors. August Bebel signed the petition and took copies to the Reichstag to urge colleagues to add their names. Other signatories included Albert Einstein, Hermann Hesse, Thomas Mann, Rainer Maria Rilke, and Leo Tolstoy.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific-Humanitarian_Committee

[Anonymous No.18910807]

>>18908877

[Anonymous No.18910813]

>>18909039
not economics apparently. or good looks. or physical strength. or coherent thought.

go discord dilate etc

[Anonymous No.18910822]

>>18910783
It’s not just mere curiosity though. In some sense, it indicates a general outlook on life or worldview and and it’s very easy to suggest that a reader might identify with an author of similar political leanings for those reasons and not expressly political ones.

[Anonymous No.18910840]

>>18910635
>everything is le irony
Your mind is poisoned.

[Anonymous No.18910861]

>>18908999
>>18909025
>>18909063
I'll never go back to /lit/
It's absolute shit.
They should ban this board.

[Anonymous No.18910881]

>>18910861
Nobody will miss you

[Anonymous No.18910884]

>>18910861
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[Anonymous No.18910973]

>>18908877
>It could be said that most of the arts are dominated by leftists

True in the 70's not true today, a leftist now a days is basically a capitalist who loves porn a lot and hates western culture.

Most leftwing authors from decades ago are not woke and will be cancelled.

[Anonymous No.18910986]

>>18909019
>Kafka was known for plagiarizing Hamsun
oops there goes another jewish idol.

[Anonymous No.18910994]

>>18910973
>a leftist now a days is basically a capitalist who loves porn a lot and hates western culture.
kek

[Anonymous No.18911003]

>>18910986
>h-he's a jewish idol!

[Anonymous No.18911024]

>>18911003
oke now I like him again.

[Anonymous No.18911181]

>>18911003
Learn misanthropy, subhuman Schweinhunde

[Anonymous No.18911266]

>>18908877
Because the left is right about everything and youre rightwing only to spite people you are resentful toward.

[Anonymous No.18911756]

>>18909388
or you

[Anonymous No.18911766]

>>18908877
>Despite this, some of the best writers were right leaning (Celine, Junger, Hamsun, Dostoyevsky, Mishima)
Really only Dostoevsky and maybe Hamsun count here.

[Anonymous No.18911771]

>>18911266
>he said when leftism literally requires spit a priori.

[Anonymous No.18911837]

>>18908877
99% of prominent writers up until the last 15 years would be considered far-right by modern schizo standards. Why do you think leftards are so obsessed with erasing the past?

[Anonymous No.18911878]

>>18908877
>It could be said that most of the arts are dominated by leftists
Most artists were hedonistic misfits with a drive for live and creative passion, who were posthumously put into binary political boxes by useless wankers
Wankers like you

[Anonymous No.18911922]

We don’t really know who artists were prior to the early modern era.

[Anonymous No.18912122]

>>18909033
>>18909025
>>18909019
Cioran was a fascist, wrote a nationalist book and dozens of articles praising Hitler and the Iron Guard.

[Anonymous No.18912129]

>>18912122
Im romanian btw, dunno if they are available in other languages.

[Anonymous No.18912132]

>>18910783
> Descriptions of the physical attraction between men appear in The Cossacks and Anna Karenina. By the time Tolstoy wrote his last novel, Resurrection, he had turned against all sexuality, and he portrayed homosexuality as one more symptom of the moral decay of society.

Who knows maybe they forged signatures?

[Anonymous No.18912140]

>Mishima
He was a voyeur.

[Anonymous No.18912146]

>>18912132
>I'm against hunting, because hunters are mentally ill and should be exterminated
Said no Tolstoj ever

[Anonymous No.18912147]

>>18912129
Also, look up Schimbarea la fata a Romaniei and pic related (which I own) contains all his pre 1945 articles, if you dont believe me.

[Anonymous No.18912152]

>>18912122
Early on, yes but he also wrote some stuff saying how that was pretty dumb. The Iron Guard seems to be more nuanced but his affinity for Nazis seems to have arisen out of simply being impressed with their rallies, and not exactly ideology.

[Anonymous No.18912160]

Left and right barely make sense outside of their actual contextual origin, this is absolutely inane without precise definitions of each

[Anonymous No.18912183]

>>18912152
I wouldnt consider that leftism either way. And almost all intellectuals after 1945 tried to get rid of any association they had with the nazis to save their own skin. or maybe it was just a more cautious old man looking down upon the excesses of his youth.

[Anonymous No.18912208]

Since everyone’s shit-flinging I’d like to mention Salvador Dali promoted Catholic Traditionalism in The Secret Life and praised Franco throughout the dictator’s regime.
Admittedly, he might have been playing 4d contrarian chess, which fits with his narcissism and unbridled hedonism.
OP also forgot Yeats and Pound in his list.

[Anonymous No.18912226]

>>18912183
considering authors like hamsun were being straight up arrested for supporting national socialism it wouldn't really surprise me if they were just saving their skins. denazification was EXTREMELY thorough in order to remove the threat

[Anonymous No.18912537]

>>18908877
>Junger
>right wing
Stop posting

[Anonymous No.18912681]

>>18909006
Which book?

[Anonymous No.18912990]

>Celine
>right wing
guy was just a bitter misanthrope and his hatred hapüpened to be projected on jews

[Anonymous No.18912999]

>>18912208
And Eliot, and Joyce, and nearly every other modernist

[Anonymous No.18913400]

>>18912990
>it just so happened
ie you don’t understand his motives and haven’t bothered to read the pamphlets

[Anonymous No.18913703]

>>18910861
Gay.

[Anonymous No.18913715]

>>18911837
boomer moment

[Anonymous No.18913783]

It's threads like these that remind me this place is full of undergrad loser midwits.
God, I wish I could leave.
All I can suggest is to be a little less cocksure. It'll take the sting out of the realizations that I hope await you.

[Anonymous No.18913870]

this is the silliest thread i've seen in some time

[Anonymous No.18913912]

>>18908877

What you consider "left" is actually all extremist right-wing fundies. Nobody truly on the left would lower themselves to working with a publisher.

[Anonymous No.18913963]

>>18912160

>Left: hasn't helped torch a minority church lately
>Right: hasn't injected anyone with anything lately

Simple as

[Anonymous No.18914016]

>>18913783
>>18913870
You transcended the right-left dichotomy, is that isn’t it?

[Anonymous No.18914238]

>>18908877
>leftist
>right wing
i despise all ape monkey retards that go around politically charging everything

I DONT GIVE A FUCK WHO IS LEFT WING OR RIGHT WING OR THAT YOU WANT TO ONE-UP THE OTHER SIDE SHUT THE FUCK UP SHUT THE FUCK UP SHUT THE FUCK UP

YOU HAVEN'T READ ANY OF THEM ANYWAY SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU

[Anonymous No.18914324]

>>18914238
Are you retarded or what? I wouldn’t have charged them politically if they themselves weren’t politically engaged, Celine wrote atisemite panflets and was collaborationist with the nazi occupation, junger was a member of the conservative revolution, Hamsun was a nazi, and Mishima was a traditionalist that was so afraid of communism that created a private militia to take Japan

[Anonymous No.18914766]

>>18912681
He’s probably talking about the narrator’s association with Marxists in No Longer Human, though I think Dazai was more mocking idealistic Marxist types rather than the ideology.

>>18912999
Based fart-sniffer was right-wing? I thought he was some anti-identitarian centrist

[Anonymous No.18914771]

>>18908877
>It could be said that most of the arts are dominated by leftists
Not until the 2nd half of the 20th century.

[Anonymous No.18914788]

>>18909149

[Anonymous No.18914998]

>>18908905
Dali was a fascist

[Anonymous No.18915018]

>>18910861
Thanks for the compliment mate. All the best.

[Anonymous No.18915051]

>>18914788
*moves from california to DDR*

[Anonymous No.18915072]

>>18908877
>some of the best writers
>>18908877
>Mishima
kek

fuck off

[Anonymous No.18915078]

>>18909014
>left
>right
>applying modern labels to antiquity or any time before the labels were invented
Ahhh, the shape of horse stables, shaping your thoughts all your life unless you grow the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.18915083]

>>18912183
>looking down upon the excesses of his youth.
Way to completely shit on all right wing 'values' there, anon.

[Anonymous No.18915099]

>>18914238
But, anon, making everything and everyone fall into either/or categories is the dumb person's way of living without thinking, the aim of all philosophy.

[Anonymous No.18916254]

>>18908905
ilya glazunov (Russia/USSR)
wyndham lewis (UK)
Tsuguharu Foujita (japan/france)

All of these artists were known for there political activism. And made a mark on art history and in some cases history in general.

[Anonymous No.18916258]

>>18909115
>Leftism is about economic struggle first and foremost
Could have fooled me.

[Anonymous No.18916301]

>>18910534
>Dali was just a shitposter
He also practiced Catholicism later in life. Which may have had an influence on his post civil war politics. But some of the shit she said was just for the luz.

[Anonymous No.18916315]

>>18908999
Confirmed for being retarded and absolutely not knowing anything about the writers you mentioned. Cioran and Beckett were best friends, but ultimately Beckett ended the friendship due to Cioran’s fascism

[Anonymous No.18916592]

>>18909163
>>18909151
lenin was a leftist. just not a "left-communist". you are both retards. no one on the planet would consider lenin a "rightist" using traditional political labeling.

[Anonymous No.18916597]

>>18916592
Does it really matter? Lenin would have shot you and your tranny friends.

[Anonymous No.18916601]

>>18916597
im not a leftist in the slightest im just smarter than you

[Anonymous No.18916602]

>>18916601
I'm not any of those people just shitposting hehe :)

[Anonymous No.18916609]

>>18916602
ah- ah- i've shit myself - smelly diaper -

[Anonymous No.18916613]

>>18913783
>>18913870
ultimate proof that the main business of election tourists on this board is to cram as many authors as they can into their ideological pokedexes

[Anonymous No.18916618]

>>18908877
What was progressive 100 years ago is conservative today. Read more history.

[Anonymous No.18916811]

>>18908877
>some of the best
>lists 5 writers from the last century

Can someone edit pic related so it says /lit/ instead of /tv/

[Anonymous No.18916856]

>>18908999
>the absolute state of humanities education
>delusional cope

[Anonymous No.18916967]

>>18908877
being a leftist post-1945 is like being a Catholic Christian in 14xx, it's literally the default position

[Anonymous No.18917042]

>>18908877
>It could be said that most of the arts are dominated by leftists
Do you have a single source to back up that claim?
Inb4 study proving republicans are dumber, less empathetic, less creative etc. than democrats
Fuck off amerilard, we already know the GOP is retarded, nobody brought up your piece of shit country or your piece of dogshit "conservative" (fascist redneck Trump worshippers) party, the world is alot bigger than your fucking shithole country

[Anonymous No.18917097]

>>18908877
>It could be said that most of the arts are dominated by leftists
Do you have a single source to back up that claim? Or are you just assuming it to be true because "muh conservatism inherently anti-intellectual" gaslighting?
>inb4 study proving republicans are dumber, less empathetic, less creative etc. than democrats
>inb4 dunking on strawman targets like jordan peterson, ben shapiro, crowder, etc.
Fuck off amerilard, we already know the GOP is retarded, the world doesn't revolve around your piece of shit country or your piece of dogshit "conservative" (fascist redneck Trump worshippers) party, the world is alot bigger than your shithole country and your grifter cunt "intellectuals"

[Anonymous No.18917153]

>>18909037
All of his characters in all of his books are self insert. Read The Setting Sun, about a person who also becomes a Marxist and is hopelessly depressed who also likes Christian aesthetics. Dazai was clearly a Marxist.