My first 4chan post

[Anonymous No.18903939]

Hello everyone, what is your opinion about Fyodor Dostoevskiy "Crime and Punishment"? Started to read this one not so long ago and it seemed a little bit complicated to me, but I really liked his writing style. I am russian btw.

[Anonymous No.18903947]

>>18903939
Damn, happy you can read it in russian :), it's very good, my favourite part was the last 1/3

[Anonymous No.18903953]

>>18903939
you seem like a nigger. A faggy gay nigger. Go and read good books instead, non russian books, you nigger. Fucking faggot.

[Anonymous No.18904058]

>>18903947
Silly one, be glad you can't read this shit in russian, otherwise you would be incredibly disappointed. Shitoevsky is one of the worst russian classics, and all his five books are literally the delirium of a madman. i still cannot understand why, of all russian literature in the west only Dostoevsky is popular? Dostoevsky is a talented writer, no doubt about it, but everything he wrote, starting with Crime and Punishment, is the trash of the mentally ill. In russia, dostoevsky is read until the age of 20, after which people recovering from teenage cravings for the dark and switch to adequate literature.
Read Tolstoy, read Turgenev, read Gogol's "Petersburg Tales" in the end.

[Anonymous No.18904076]

>>18904058
>recommending russian lit
>skipping pushkin
gtfoh

[Anonymous No.18904094]

>>18904076
Pushkin should be read exclusively in russian, so i did not include him in the list.

[Anonymous No.18904100]

>>18904058
what do the Russians think of The Brothers Karamazov?

US professors think it's one of the best (if not the best) novel ever written. Dosto is not known for his prose, i get it. But the ideas are valuable and highly original.

[Anonymous No.18904183]

>>18904100
"The Brothers Karamazov" is considered the pearl of Russian literature, especially the chapter "The Grand Inquisitor", which should be posted by any smart public on social networks. But really, this novel is appreciated by very few, the more popular are "The Idiot", "Demons" and the most popular "Crime and Зunishment", because it is included in the school literature program .

[Anonymous No.18904215]

>>18904183
hmm.. thanks

and War and Peace? anyone reads that?

I've read Gogol and his humour kind of puts me off. Turgenev too seems like he's reluctantly trying to make things light for the common reader.

I really like Tolstoy's shorter works like Ivan Ilyich and especially Hadji Murat and Cossacks. Masterful stuff. I think Tolstoy is the best Russian writer ever.

inb4 he hated women
i don't care

[Anonymous No.18904304]

>>18904215
>and War and Peace? anyone reads that?
Yes, this is the most popular russian novel.
>I think Tolstoy is the best Russian writer ever.
Yes, it is true.

>I've read Gogol and his humour kind of puts me off.
Yes, he really has a kind of humor, very close to a russian person.
>Turgenev too seems like he's reluctantly trying to make things light for the common reader
You are probably unlucky enough to get acquainted with his hysterical "diary of an extra person." I recommend reading the wonderful stories "Outer Waters" and "Asya", because no one could describe love the way Turgenev described it.

[Anonymous No.18904353]

>>18904304
>Russian humour
How would you say Russian humour is? I'm British and I'd say that our two nations have quite similar comedic preferences.

Have you seen Monty Python? Also: how popular is 'Demons' in Russia?

[Anonymous No.18904363]

>>18904304
Thanks, anon. I will try those stories.

I am currently reading Pushkin's The Captain's Daughter. Good stuff. Would recommend.

[Anonymous No.18904368]

>>18904353
>Also: how popular is 'Demons' in Russia?
out of Dosto's "big four", it's the least popular and I think an average person might've not even heard about it, while everyone - even those who don't read books - have heard about C&P, TBK and The Idiot: C&P is covered in the school program and you are bound to stumble upon the other two inevitably either in your parents' or your grandparents' house

[Anonymous No.18904383]

>>18904215
>I've read Gogol and his humour kind of puts me off.
his shit is comedy gold but you can only get it if you're a russian / slav with a similar culture, a lot of things that'd be alien in the west

[Anonymous No.18904394]

>>18903939
>My first 4chan post
Cringe, fake and gay, kys

[Anonymous No.18904397]

>>18903939
welcome, now get the fuck out

[Anonymous No.18904405]

>>18904368
What's the russian literature curriculum like in school? Is it more focused on the classic writers that we know in the west, or do you have some gems unknown to us?
I speak russian so i'd like some recommendations please

[Anonymous No.18904427]

>>18903939
What do the Russians think about Bulgakov? I read that The Master... is quite popular there.

[Anonymous No.18904438]

>>18904405
I was in HS more than 10 years ago now, but I can only remember the most popular / mainstream stuff like Tolstoy, Dosto, Checkhov, Turgenev etc.
then again, I've also skipped a lot of classes to drink with friends and play video games like a teenage degenerate that I was and might've missed some gems, but I think it's unlikely due to the curriculum being quite, well, classic-oriented
>>18904427
Master and Margarita was in the HS curriculum as well

[Anonymous No.18904484]

>>18904438
>Ive also skipped a lot of classes to drink with friends and play video games like a teenage degenerate
Damn, based.
I get, i also didn't pay attention to literature while i was in HS.
Any ways, any hidden gems that you know now?

[Anonymous No.18904519]

>>18904353
>How would you say Russian humour is?
It is hard to say. You know, this is similar to the question that was raised in Pelevin's novel "Generation П", what is the Russian idea? All of Gogol's work is permeated with satire on deceiving officials and little people .
>how popular is 'Demons' in Russia?
Enough. He is especially popular among people who do not post Dostoevsky's prose.

[Anonymous No.18904532]

>>18904427
>What do the Russians think about Bulgakov?
This is a writer who is very popular with less-than-read people. It seems to me that every second кussian read The Master and Margarita.

[Anonymous No.18904536]

>>18903939
Did you lurk before posting?

[Anonymous No.18904547]

>>18903939
Trash book, пидop. Read Tolstoy instead.

[Anonymous No.18904624]

>>18903953
kinda rude anon

[Anonymous No.18904637]

>>18904405
What do you think, is it worth recommending some Leonid Andreev, Saltykov-Shchedrin, or Mamleev in general to local gloomy lovers ?

[Anonymous No.18904642]

>>18903939
my first... fourchan... post?
you.. you....
YOU FUCKING NIGGOR!! NEGRIDO NEGROID NIGERONN!!!

[Anonymous No.18904648]

>>18904547
It is really good advice, anon. Tolstoy is the best writer ever.

[Anonymous No.18904740]

>>18904547
>>18904648
yea im thinkin…based

[Anonymous No.18904748]

>>18903939
>My first 4chan post
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[Anonymous No.18904762]

>>18904748
OH MY GOD, BASED AND REDPILLED, that will make tyrone stop fucking my trad wife and go back for sure, hehehe

[Anonymous No.18904780]

>>18904536
A нaхyя мнe этo дeлaть? Я зaшёл cюдa тoлькo paди экcпepимeнтa.
>>18904547
Пидop тyт тoлькo ты. Cocи.

[Anonymous No.18904897]

>>18904780
>Я зaшёл cюдa тoлькo paди экcпepимeнтa.
>He thinks he will leave 4chan
Daily reminder: you are here for ever

[Anonymous No.18904928]

>>18903939
Hey Slavbro. I am a Pole who wishes he could read Russian so I didn’t have to settle for English translations. You chose a serious novel to read, if you want something much easier to read but just as valuable and just ( if not more ) beautiful then I highly recommend Tolstoy’s short stories. Bulgakov is one of my personal favourite Russians but if you grew up in Russia then you probably already read “ The Master and Margarita “ in high school eh? If not I highly recommend that and envy your ability to read it as it was written.

[Anonymous No.18904978]

>>18904762
>>18904748
Americans

[Anonymous No.18904995]

>>18904780
Cyka blyat newfag

[Anonymous No.18905043]

>>18904928
>so I didn’t have to settle for English translations
why would you that? modern polish translations of Dosto are prette good

[Anonymous No.18905049]

>>18903953

Thank you for properly introducing the OP to 4chan. Welcome to 4chan OP, enjoy your stay.

[Anonymous No.18905056]

>>18903939
welcome
now go finish the book dumbass

[Anonymous No.18905075]

Have you read BK? I liked CnP but BK surpasses it. Also I feel like CnP has a lot of filler chapters, chapters that aren’t needed

[Anonymous No.18905088]

>>18905075
which chapters?
if you are thinking of Raskolnikov's dreams and wandering then you are gravely mistaken

[Anonymous No.18905091]

>ywn have a true, undeserved friend like razumikhin

[Anonymous No.18905261]

>>18904928
Hi. Yes, I already read Bulgakov "Master and Margarita" and "Heart of a Dog". Liked it very much, first of them is one of my favorite books.

[Anonymous No.18905272]

>>18905049
pre 2016 that would've only been /b/

[Anonymous No.18905273]

>>18905049
Russian imageboards are hundred times worse than 4chan, so I feel myself comfortable here.

[Anonymous No.18905280]

>>18905273
how did you learn English?

[Anonymous No.18905329]

it's all so tiresome

[Anonymous No.18905340]

>>18905280
In school I took lessons, also I practiced language with native speakers. Studiyng Russian in school was much more complicated than English, for me.