Tolkien sucks

[Anonymous No.18902247]

He never explained so much shit about his stuff and it was all fairy tale garbage. Like can Dwarves and elves even fuck?

[Anonymous No.18902292]

>>18902247
Martin is a wretched and pathetic creature, and his books suck.

[Anonymous No.18902322]

>>18902247
When a Dwarf fucks and Elf and the Tree's on the Shelf they make Orcs eh?

When and Elf fucks just fine and the Dwarf's cunt tree shines that's an 'obbit eh?

[Anonymous No.18902323]

The more she drank, the more she shat.

[Anonymous No.18902465]

You haven't read any of the books, have you? Go back to watching Netflix.

[Anonymous No.18902779]

>>18902323
Find a Tolkien line that's better

[Anonymous No.18902794]

>>18902779
>Find a Tolkien line that's better

Pick a random Tolkien book, select a page at random, and select any paragraph you wish.

[Anonymous No.18902797]

Tolkien appeals to nerds who idealize honor, loyalty, purity etc. the whole system of moralism. They also want the good guys to always win. For them good art means emotional uplift and consolation.

[Anonymous No.18902807]

>>18902794
Completely predictable Tolkienbot dodge, pick a line unless you are afraid to enter the ring

[Anonymous No.18902814]

>>18902807
Tolkien is dead, and he’s still putting out books faster than that fat hack.

[Anonymous No.18902825]

>>18902814
Good books requires years. Tolkienshit Is easy to write

[Anonymous No.18902829]

>>18902779
Be he foe or friend, be he foul or clean,
brood of Morgoth or bright Vala,
Elda or Maia or Aftercomer,
Man yet unborn upon Middle-earth,
neither law, nor love, nor league of swords,
dread nor danger, not Doom itself,
shall defend him from Fëanor, and Fëanor's kin,
whoso hideth or hoardeth, or in hand taketh,
finding keepeth or afar casteth
a Silmaril. This swear we all:
death we will deal him ere Day's ending,
woe unto world's end! Our word hear thou,
Eru Allfather! To the everlasting
Darkness doom us if our deed faileth.
On the holy mountain hear in witness
and our vow remember, Manwë and Varda!

[Anonymous No.18902834]

>>18902247
What is Joffery’s tax policy?

[Anonymous No.18902841]

>>18902829
Pretentious archaic shit. Martin wrote lines actuall real people would say

>>18902834
It didnt mattered because his short reign was a wartime reign. We know well Robert's one

[Anonymous No.18902844]

>>18902797
Good loses in Tolkien's work, Evil in his work destroys it's self; in plenty of instances of his work too, victory comes at a cost.
Frodo is forever scarred by his encounter with the Ring Wraithes and must pass to Valinor to continue living at all. Túrin in the Silmarillion perishes after his battle with Glaurung, after years of gruelling warfare had destroyed his life.
Feanor brought about mass murder in the name of honour. His works have a lot more complicated morality than the nerds who read him realise.

[Anonymous No.18902845]

the more she drank the more she shat

[Anonymous No.18902854]

He was Christian.

Explains everything.

[Anonymous No.18902881]

>>18902844
Good always prevails in the end, even if the victory is bittersweet. That's because Tolkien believes in the kind of cheap optimism guaranteed by Providence. He also interprets the world in terms of good evil as opposed to an interplay of conflicting interests. He is fundamentally a moralist and a theologian.

[Anonymous No.18902891]

>>18902881
He is yes, but he does not believe that good prevails, and a major point throughout his collected works is the decline of good; as evil returns again and again. The age he lived through being a climax to the collapse of good, and rise of evil in his mind. And is he wrong? Look at the world.

[Anonymous No.18903151]

>>18902891
He does believe that good prevails in the end. All (traditional) Christians believe that good prevails in the end because it is part of their creed. And in Tolkien's case this is clearly reflected in his works. Yes good declines, but is never eliminated and evil is destined to loose in the end. The only way to counter the charge of lazy optimism would be to affirm the theological case, and it seems you don't want to do that.
>The age he lived through being a climax to the collapse of good, and rise of evil in his mind. And is he wrong? Look at the world.
Talking in terms of good vs evil merely obscures the facts. There are certain historical developments since his lifetime that we may like and others we may deplore.

[Anonymous No.18903999]

>>18903151
Tolkien is a Pre Vatican ll Catholic. His works are inherently Catholic in nature. Also a closer reading of Tolkien reveals that it isn't "good wins in the end", it's more of a "when good men act, the long defeat is delayed". The elves and much of the magic of the world is leaving Middle Earth at the end of Lord of the Rings, and Tolkien abandoned his own attempt at a sequel because the world of men was much darker than the third age. If you're a leftist atheist urbanite you can't understand Tolkien.

[Anonymous No.18904198]

>>18902779
In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit.

[Anonymous No.18904274]

>>18902292
he is also disgusting to look at

[Anonymous No.18904292]

>>18902825
LotR took 12 years to write. Silmarillion was a work in progress from ~1916 to his death in 1973. Good books do indeed require years anon.

[Anonymous No.18904322]

ITT: all these fucking retards responding to obvious bait
you guys are embarrassing, worst thread on /lit/ right now

[Anonymous No.18904333]

>>18902779
>Suddenly the king cried to Snowmane and the horse sprang away. Behind him his banner blew in the wind, white horse upon a field of green, but he outpaced it. After him thundered the knights of his house, but he was ever before them.E´ omer rode there, the white horsetail on his helm floating in his speed, and the front of the first e´ored roared like a breaker foaming to the shore, but The´oden could not be overtaken. Fey he seemed, or the battle-fury of his fathers ran like new fire in his veins, and he was borne up on Snowmane like a god of old, even as Orome¨ the Great in the battle of the Valar when the world was young. His golden shield was uncovered, and lo! it shone like an image of the Sun, and the grass flamed into green about the white feet of his steed. For morning came, morning and a wind from the sea; and darkness was removed, and the hosts of Mordor wailed, and terror took them, and they fled, and died, and the hoofs of wrath rode over them. And then all the host of Rohan burst into song, and they sang as they slew, for the joy of battle was on them, and the sound of their singing that was fair and terrible came even to the City.

[Anonymous No.18904336]

>>18902797
>who idealize honor, loyalty, purity etc

Because those are the ideals, anon. Lol.

[Anonymous No.18904339]

>>18904322
The baitees may be more retarded but the baiter surely is more pathetic and embarrassing

[Anonymous No.18905071]

>>18902807
“Do you wish me a good morning, or mean that it is a good morning whether I want it or not; or that you feel good this morning; or that it is a morning to be good on?”

[Anonymous No.18905102]

I like both Tolkien and Martin and I think more people should be like me.

[Anonymous No.18905217]

>>18904333
Alan Lee is so ggod.

[Anonymous No.18905967]

>>18903999
>If you're a leftist atheist urbanite you can't understand Tolkien.
Anyone can understand everything you said. It's not that hard.