Books to fix men like this?

[Anonymous No.18899120]

[Anonymous No.18899126]

>>18899120
Life experience, no book can do it

[Anonymous No.18899134]

>>18899120
Get the log out of your eye gaylord

[Anonymous No.18899140]

Defenders of christerism on 4channel attempt to imagine someone more sickly than they are to defend their choice of religious fashion.

[Anonymous No.18899142]

>>18899120
I used to be this. I have no idea how I achieved personal redemption myself.

[Anonymous No.18899147]

https://eggreport.substack.com/p/how-to-find-god-1-9

[Anonymous No.18899157]

>>18899120
Reading Kierkegaard brought me out of that state

[Anonymous No.18899158]

>le chantard Larping as a christian.jpg

[Anonymous No.18899167]

theists can't meme

[Anonymous No.18899168]

>>18899120
Douay

[Anonymous No.18899179]

>>18899120
Atheists have lower crime rates, higher education rates, and lower divorce rates. Equating "atheist" to a "lack of moral code" goes to show how ignorant you are. Also, Nazi Germany was deeply Christian and the Russian leaders used the mythology of the Czars being more than human to create a religious cult of personality around themselves.

You've created the most lazy, inaccurate stereotype imaginable probably to make you feel better about yourself and your complete lack of foundation for your belief structure.

Also, countries with more involved states and larger public programs are currently dominating the US in tons of different metrics related to education, healthcare, lifespan, etc.

[Anonymous No.18899183]

>>18899167
t. bugman

[Anonymous No.18899187]

>>18899120
*responsible
And this whole virtue signaling won't work, people are starting to think by themselves.

[Anonymous No.18899198]

>>18899134
>>18899167
based. OP is, yet again, a fag

[Anonymous No.18899204]

>>18899179
>lower divorce rates.
Because they also have lower marriage rates. Gaythiests are leading us into extinction.
>Also, countries with more involved states and larger public programs are currently dominating the US in tons of different metrics related to education, healthcare, lifespan, etc.
>Muh USA
rent-free

[Anonymous No.18899207]

>>18899179
Wrong on everything you've said. Where do redditors get their information

[Anonymous No.18899216]

Check out tolstoy’s “Confession”. Helped me out a bit. Pretty short too.

[Anonymous No.18899223]

>>18899187
What in God's name did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.18899227]

>>18899179
>Atheists have lower crime rates, higher education rates, and lower divorce rates. Equating "atheist" to a "lack of moral code" goes to show how ignorant you are. Also, Nazi Germany was deeply Christian

literally all of this is false

[Anonymous No.18899236]

>>18899179
Do you associate atheism with the most intelligent men of society? Do you believe you're a man whose intellect is worthy of note? Because I doubt you're anything more than a midwit.
You don't even have sufficient intelligence to come to a conclusion about your "morals," or form your own code. You just follow the Abrahamic morals deeply ingrained in society without even realising it.

>Atheists have lower crime rates, higher education rates, and lower divorce rates
Substantiate your claims.
>Also, Nazi Germany was deeply Christian and the Russian leaders used the mythology of the Czars being more than human to create a religious cult of personality around themselves.
Entirely bullshit, this is the dictionary definition of coping.

[Anonymous No.18899242]

>>18899204
>>18899207
>>18899227
>"It's true bu-"
>"That hurts my feelings so it must be false"
>"Tho-Those are Reddit facts!"
Pathetic

[Anonymous No.18899257]

>>18899236
Every Nazi soldier swore allegiance to the Fuhrer in God's name and on every belt buckle was engraved "Gott Mit Uns" which means "God on our side". Plus, Hitler directly used the Church's demonization of the Jews as God killers to fuel hatred of them. You are the one coping my friend.

[Anonymous No.18899261]

>>18899147
This guy really sounds 'of the internet'. It's like reading 4chan posts

[Anonymous No.18899264]

>>18899223
Think about your own thinking and how said men you feel like "fixing" think, and that is probably a start.

[Anonymous No.18899268]

>>18899242
> Atheists have some of the lowest divorce rates listed at 2 percent. However, it should be noted that the marriage rate among this group is also smaller. This was noted in a 2012 study that only about 36 percent of atheists were married compared to 54 percent of Christians.
Atheists are incels who don't marry

[Anonymous No.18899273]

>>18899264
I understand these kinds of guys. Just materialist/soulless/lefty types. They're dime a dozen.

[Anonymous No.18899280]

>>18899268
>he doesnt understand what rate means
fucking retard

[Anonymous No.18899281]

>>18899273
>I understand these kinds of guys. Just materialist/soulless/lefty types. They're dime a dozen.
No, you don't. If you did, you would be writing a book about that for your own use.

[Anonymous No.18899286]

>>18899281
>No, you don't.
Yes, I do. And I don't need to write a book to understand bugmen.

[Anonymous No.18899289]

>>18899273
>Just materialist/soulless/lefty types. They're dime a dozen.
You really buy wholesale into tribalism and group thinking, don't you?

[Anonymous No.18899292]

>>18899120
>has no actual knowledge of theology and christian beliefs
Sounds like that you are just like the person you criticise, just the other way around.

[Anonymous No.18899295]

>>18899289
It's not tribalism but overall worldviews.

[Anonymous No.18899303]

>>18899292
atheology is pure faggotry. bugmen are not at all interesting to study.

[Anonymous No.18899308]

>>18899286
Why are you asking for books then? I'm writing one as I think about this thing, but I'm not stupid and think that I got all figured out. People aren't that simple. Even bugmen are complicated, if you think otherwise and still ask for books on how to deal with them, you are a retard. Maybe get back to basic philosophy and the Greeks, or just give up on it for now.

[Anonymous No.18899310]

>>18899273
Those guys are typically not actually 'soulless' or totally materialist. Their religious sense or whatever is kind of atrophied but you can tell they sometimes get spiritual feelings from like music or nature or something

[Anonymous No.18899316]

>>18899179
>Atheists have lower crime rates
wrong
>higher education rates
who cares
>lower divorce rates
actually retarded

apply yourself

[Anonymous No.18899321]

>>18899316
The amount of people both denying those facts and also trying to explain them away in this thread is hilarious

[Anonymous No.18899322]

>>18899310
>can tell they sometimes get spiritual feelings from like music or nature or something
This is pure cope. Like that faggot bugman Sam Harris' mcmindfulness.

[Anonymous No.18899337]

>>18899308
I want books on how to fix them, not books that suck their dick.

[Anonymous No.18899350]

>>18899179
>Also, Nazi Germany was [headcanon]

[Anonymous No.18899351]

>>18899322
I don't think it's cope. Trying to worship those things is probably cope, but they can be a kind of trigger for looking elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.18899357]

>>18899310
>Enjoying music means you're spiritual
No it doesn't. This is like saying if you enjoy an amazing sports play, it's a spiritual moment. It's just obnoxious and obviously not the correct use of the word.

[Anonymous No.18899360]

>>18899322
I’m an ex-Christian and nature and music are far more moving, profound and positive than church ever was. Even Christians will point to a beautiful sky or land scape as god, they then use music to put themselves in religious state.
I’m just taking out the imaginary middleman.

[Anonymous No.18899362]

>>18899303
You are dodging the question like the fag you are. Typical christcuck.

[Anonymous No.18899369]

>>18899357
Are you a Christian or religious?

[Anonymous No.18899370]

>>18899351
It is cope because it's an inconsistent and hypocritical worldview. The whole "spiritual but actually atheist" types are pure cancer.

[Anonymous No.18899372]

>>18899350
And in Mein Kampf he explicitly states he is doing God's work and executing God's will in the eradication of the Jews. Which has more weight, some quote a different person wrote down about what they think he said at the dinner table, or his own writing?

[Anonymous No.18899376]

>>18899337
People don't need to be fixed, specially without their consent. It is not up to you, I'm writing a book to atheists (I'm agnostic) exactly to teach how to defend themselves from people like you.

[Anonymous No.18899377]

>>18899362
Not a single question in your reply.

[Anonymous No.18899380]

>>18899370
Whine all you want anon, I was out in nature this weekend with music and people I love and it was more powerful than any church service when I was a Christian. Best of luck.

[Anonymous No.18899382]

>>18899370
You're not even reading what I say. All im saying is they arent literally soulless and do have the basic faculty

[Anonymous No.18899383]

>>18899369
Wouldn't you like to know?

[Anonymous No.18899384]

>>18899350
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vghHv1NigsY

[Anonymous No.18899385]

>>18899292
how's the HRT going

[Anonymous No.18899389]

>>18899120
Read this

[Anonymous No.18899392]

>>18899383
Why do defensive? It’s a simple question, if you are Christian it is bizarre that you’re too ashamed to say so.

[Anonymous No.18899400]

>>18899392
Christians come in all varieties. But what difference does it make?

[Anonymous No.18899401]

I don't know about a specific book, but I have 2 friends that were raised christians, became atheists during their teen years and later got into esotericism through Crowley. I think they moved on from it and are into neoplatonism, hermeticism and indian stuff now.
I also read other people claiming to seek a spiritual path after reading Crowley.

[Anonymous No.18899406]

>>18899357
I'm not talking about just liking a song, it's more intense than that. Of course some religions might consider this demonic but that's still an aspect of the spiritual

[Anonymous No.18899407]

>>18899120
I don’t know where you live but in the prosperous and educated regions of the world it is not edgy to not believe in gods, it is normal and well adjusted. Successful well groomed and educated people are not religious and don’t believe gods of ancient mythology are real.

I mean we are on 4chan but please get out more.

[Anonymous No.18899410]

>>18899376
>People don't need to be fixed
You don't know that.
> I'm writing a book to atheists (I'm agnostic) exactly to teach how to defend themselves from people like you.
I don't think bugmen need to "defend themselves." Just give them a Netflix subscription or a hamburger and they'll be happy.

[Anonymous No.18899413]

>>18899407
Very islamophobic of you tbqh

[Anonymous No.18899414]

>>18899120
>completely disregards that atheism and the lack of a moral code is historically linked with the worse atrocities
You genocided my people. The collapse of christianity cannot come soon enough.

[Anonymous No.18899421]

>>18899407
>Successful well groomed and educated people are not religious
Most men I know who fit that description are religious people, though.

[Anonymous No.18899423]

>>18899400
Let’s say hypothetically you were a Christian, it’s okay that you’re afraid to admit it.

But in the face of someone telling you they get profound emotional and spiritual experience from nature and music without believing in god(s) you are always going to deny it.

Your belief in god hinges on you needing it to some extent.

[Anonymous No.18899426]

>>18899372
>And in Mein Kampf he explicitly states he is doing God's work and executing God's will in the eradication of the Jews.
Doesn't make him Christian.
>Which has more weight, some quote a different person wrote down about what they think he said at the dinner table, or his own writing?
Neither of those are qualitatively superior to the other.
>>18899384
Yes the majority of Germans were Christian, what's your point? It's simply a political veneer the Nazis prop up to placate the people. Hitler was after all a populist first and foremost. Saying that "Nazi Germany was deeply Christian" undermines the nuance of the entire situation.

[Anonymous No.18899428]

>>18899407
You mean in Scandinavia? In the countries where people do not reproduce and are going to be replaced by immigrants in the upcoming decades? Not exactly a model to follow.

[Anonymous No.18899434]

>>18899423
I don't believe in god or spirituality at all. Things can be profound and meaningful without being spiritual.

[Anonymous No.18899437]

>>18899421
Education and financial success strongly correlate with lack of belief in gods.

It is unbelievable how much you guys have to refrain from defending your belief in gods and instead choose to pretend your opponents are unkempt.

Truly the behavior of someone with their back against the wall intellectually and logically.

[Anonymous No.18899444]

>>18899437
>financial success
So materialism triumphs among materialist bugmen? What a surprise you got there.

[Anonymous No.18899448]

>>18899428
One track mind on you people

[Anonymous No.18899449]

>>18899410
Well, I'm writing my book, enjoy dealing with it in the future. Or you could write yours.

[Anonymous No.18899450]

>>18899179
The fundamental principle of less crime = better human falls flat when one considers the possibility that the law being violated is evil. Mainstream religion is indeed controlled and populated by evil people, however.

[Anonymous No.18899452]

>>18899437
>muh education
Woman detected.

[Anonymous No.18899459]

>>18899120
Tradcath zoomers are honestly more annoying than these types at times. Also they're not "in denial about the current fall of society". This is the type who would post on r/collapse.

[Anonymous No.18899461]

>>18899449
Good luck, I hope you become the King of the Bugmen.

[Anonymous No.18899464]

>>18899459
Buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords. Read a fucking book before posting on /lit/ would you?

[Anonymous No.18899475]

>>18899428
>>18899444
In the face of being told unkempt or not put together is not an accurate assessment of people in developed nations who don’t believe in god, now it’s on to claims about birth rate and tangential philosophical beliefs.

If you had a substantive point, you would be straight up laying out the facts on how your god actually exists instead of jumping from insult to insult.

Also in case it needs to be pointed out, making more money doesn’t make you materialist, it means you make more money and arguably are more likely to have self control and be well groomed, which is what was being contested.

[Anonymous No.18899488]

The wind is completely absent in the sales of the materialism vs. spirituality larp because all it comes down to pragmatically is autism surrounding sex

[Anonymous No.18899495]

christ larpers (4chan type) getting really desperate nowadays

[Anonymous No.18899496]

>>18899488
>being a coomer

[Anonymous No.18899503]

>>18899475
How do you feel about the even greater correlation between race and financial success, test scores, crime, etc

[Anonymous No.18899507]

>>18899464
>Buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords.
I used one buzz-phrase to describe a pretty popular phenomenon here of ~15-25 year olds who 'converted' 3 months ago and then act like they've been lifelong devout Christians who post like OP. Fuck off.
>Read a fucking book before posting on /lit/ would you?
"Everyone who does something I dislike doesn't read", a classic.

[Anonymous No.18899512]

>>18899475
It's all interconnected. Your worldview leads you into things. And atheism is exactly why Europe as we know it is collapsing.

[Anonymous No.18899515]

>>18899120
Religion is cancer, people who do not practice behind closed doors is cancer, but so are militant atheists who are a part of leftist agenda. Both groups of people should be gassed, religious people for having mental disability that makes then susceptible to nonsense like religion (and for continualy passing this genetic defect to younger generation) and militant atheists who fall for liberal leftism nonsense which is also a genetic deficiency (low iq, high impulse, literally nigger tier). Only sensible people with higher than average iq and no serious genetic defects like believing in skydaddy should be allowed to live and reproduce

[Anonymous No.18899521]

>>18899496
Everything does not surround pornography. You don't even have the stones to sit there and seriously pontificate about the social corruption of nature when you've been led to fear a basic life function. Even you know how ridiculous you'd look.

[Anonymous No.18899530]

>>18899385
Very good, I have a loving BF and a supportive family.

[Anonymous No.18899533]

>>18899120
You forget about the part where they are always into things like tarot, palm reading, and the zodiac. In the same conversation they will talk about the ridiculousness of young earth creationism or praying or whatever and then say they need to consult a tarot reader for their next career/life decision.

[Anonymous No.18899535]

>>18899120
This is just considered edgy in some places and by a certain group of people. Most religious people where I live don't think it's edgy and we all get along pretty well.
My guess is that you are the edgy one here.

[Anonymous No.18899536]

lol @ the seething bugmen ITT. The boot clearly fits.

[Anonymous No.18899537]

>>18899512
I don’t live in Europe so I don’t know what your problems are and I don’t care honestly. The least religious areas of my country are doing the best and the most religious areas are literally declining in population they are so poor miserable and hopeless

[Anonymous No.18899539]

>>18899120
To be without God is to maximize spiritual anguish, which is infinitely more profound than the shallow comfort one might find in a eternal afterlife.

[Anonymous No.18899544]

>>18899537
Classism to own le religitards

[Anonymous No.18899548]

>>18899537
>developed nation
>not Europe

[Anonymous No.18899549]

>>18899475
No book is going to fix your pathetic atheism and pretensions (which reek in your posts and redditspacing). Go outside

[Anonymous No.18899556]

>>18899539
>To be without God is to maximize spiritual anguish
No, it's to maximize materialism and to kill spirituality.

[Anonymous No.18899565]

>>18899544
Don’t dish out insults against entire demographics if you can’t take them. I was told atheism rots society, I’m pointing out that the Christian areas of my country are in an absolutely pathetic miserable state of death and despair and the non-religious regions are far better off.

[Anonymous No.18899580]

>>18899565
>Christian areas of my country are in an absolutely pathetic miserable state of death and despair
SOVL
>the non-religious regions are far better off.
s*ulless

[Anonymous No.18899606]

>>18899537
This is true for the whole world. I'm not even an atheist myself, but the shittiest places on earth are highly religious, like Africa, Middle East and most part of Americas.
I don't know how to refute this and I don't think it's possible.

[Anonymous No.18899612]

>>18899606
Europe and the US arent atheist, they worship minorities

[Anonymous No.18899659]

>>18899120
>completely disregards that atheism and the lack of a moral code is historically linked with the worse [sic] atrocities
you don't believe this, do you?

[Anonymous No.18899663]

>>18899580
Yeah fat red faced miserable red necks doing heroin and meth in jean shorts and stained shirts like their sons under the cemetery is quite the vibrant life

[Anonymous No.18899669]

>>18899663
Can you write a post just like this about blacks in the ghetto

[Anonymous No.18899693]

>>18899606
Depends. The best parts of France are Catholics and/or have Catholic influence.

[Anonymous No.18899695]

>>18899227
Well part of crime rates is true, they're pussies.

[Anonymous No.18899698]

>>18899669
No you obsessed /pol/smoker, I was told atheism degrades society and yet the rotting shacks filled with rotting people in my country are living in church country, while the less religious regions are worse off by just about every measure if not all.

I’m talking about religion, if you want to rant about races go where you belong.

[Anonymous No.18899699]

>>18899669
Not him but white Christian nationalism created, reinforced, and gained from racial inequality.

[Anonymous No.18899705]

>>18899698
There are plenty of religious black people, I just think you have a flair for language and I want to hear you describe the obese, ugly religious blacks just how you did for the rednecks

[Anonymous No.18899710]

>>18899120
Plato Collected works

[Anonymous No.18899715]

>religious people have lost all fact based arguments on 4chan
>now exclusively resort to ad hom toward all atheists when it’s easily argued that in places like America the Christians are in a far worse state of affairs than the non-religious

You have nothing, never forget it.

[Anonymous No.18899716]

>>18899120
I enjoy the dialectical nature of this place. Remember when most of us were like that because being atheist was the contrarian thing to do? Now being religious is the new contrarian thing to do, so the status quo must be criticized (I only come back once in a while, pretty sure being religous is the default now).
Now, be honest, religion IS just a form of control. The reason you chill religion is because you understand that and hope to use it as ideology to control others. You don't really believe in god, you just like the idea because it seems cool, or aesthetic, you are incapable of having faith in anything because you are rotten inside.
>>18899669
Of course,
>>18899663
>Yeah fat miserable niggers with giant lips doing heroin and meth in jean shorts and stained shirts like their sons under the cemetery is quite the vibrant life

[Anonymous No.18899737]

>>18899530
Does it embarrass you at all you're going through with this life-altering procedure over a literal fetish? That you're throwing away the next 30-40 years of your life away over a few years worth of hedonism? Why didn't you talk to someone about your porn addiction instead of feeding into this big pharma push that preys on insecure emasculated young men such as yourself?

[Anonymous No.18899749]

>>18899715
>America
Who gives a fuck lol

[Anonymous No.18899753]

>to fix men
No such thing

[Anonymous No.18899757]

>>18899737
Not that anon, but people say stuff like this but post positive memes about people like Zyzz.

[Anonymous No.18899764]

>>18899749
If you didn’t give a fuck you would have said nothing, yet here you are.

[Anonymous No.18899766]

>>18899515
You're an atheist so get off your soapbox about how they're both "equally bad" retard.

[Anonymous No.18899777]

>>18899715
> Christians are in a far worse state of affairs than the non-religious
Maybe physical, but not mental. Atheist bugment are depressed as fuck and on SRIs half the time. Much worse "affairs" if you ask me. Read Industrial Society And Its Future. Material "affairs" are clearly not the problem the west is facing, it's a spiritual one. And even though I am no christcuck, at least they have Faith, something atheists will never have and thus will fall victim to the unfulfillment of degenerate escapism and material aquisition

[Anonymous No.18899797]

Any good book recs on the destruction of Christianity in the West and, more broadly, the (((anti-white))) agenda? I've already read CofC.

[Anonymous No.18899800]

>>18899777
Oh please. Every adult atheist I know has a career and the vast majority of them are in long term committed relationships/getting married/already married with kids already born or planned.

[Anonymous No.18899805]

>>18899716
>Remember when most of us were like that because being atheist was the contrarian thing to do?
Old /lit/ was extremely Reddit and terrible so I'm fine with the current paradigm shift in comparison, even if it is insufferable in its own way.

[Anonymous No.18899812]

>>18899410
>don't eat burgers, man!
>eat this magical piece of br-ehm, meat.

[Anonymous No.18899815]

>>18899556
It could lead to spiritual abnegation, but that is only incidental to the anguish.

[Anonymous No.18899861]

>>18899777
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2696450-Kaczynski-I-Dont-Believe-in-God.html

[Anonymous No.18899868]

>>18899797
>CofC.
What's that?

[Anonymous No.18899870]

>>18899120
There is only one way to fix modern man. Take the Hueypill brothers.

[Anonymous No.18899878]

>>18899800
their careers, technology and the state are their God (in this sense they aren't true atheists, just spiritually jaded). They fall for globohomo agendas and their children will be worse off than they are (look at the state of zoomers ffs). It all leads to decadence, at least christians are somewhat conservative and understand we're heading in a bad direction. All atheists I know are oblivious libtard NPCs, regardless of their external merits like children, marriage, career. Their inner lives are dead, their souls danked into dubmission. Yes bugs are capable of working and reproducing, but they are still soulless bugs. Defending them is laughable

[Anonymous No.18899899]

>>18899868
The Culture of Critique. You've probably seen it referenced many times on here.

[Anonymous No.18899931]

>>18899737
>life-altering procedure over a literal fetish?
Source on the fetish thing? Is that just your own weird little opinion or something actually factual?
>30-40 years of your life away over a few years worth of hedonism
According to whom? You? I have a good life ahead of me.
>porn addiction
You might be projecting because I barely watch porn.

[Anonymous No.18899942]

>>18899878
I sincerely have no idea what you’re talking about, most atheists I know are doing well in on the whole and the only two Christian people I know are not happy and only have their religion as a sort of numbing opiate that they regularly waiver with their faith in.

[Anonymous No.18899974]

>>18899942
fake atheists and fake christians. Be cautious with lables, anon

[Anonymous No.18900000]

>>18899974
Nope, the former don’t believe in the god and the latter are sincere and devoted Christians who make it a large part of their life.

[Anonymous No.18900017]

>>18899878
Most atheists I know are edgy libertarian retards, who hate the globohomo and sjws.
I mean, for that I believe they are just stupid and jump on the bandwagon of internet edginess, but can't just throw away old things right away.

[Anonymous No.18900049]

Imagine measuring the quality of human existence in terms of GDP and purchasing power for Netflix, gadgets, shitty clothes... Atheists will literally end the West, no wonder everyone is a anti depressant addicted shell addicted to their gadgets

[Anonymous No.18900074]

>>18900049
Quality of life is generally measure by HDI. What do you propose instead? Saying hocus pocus and farting loudly?

[Anonymous No.18900086]

>>18900000
quints of truth

[Anonymous No.18900098]

>>18900000
Damn, god loves atheists.

[Anonymous No.18900111]

>>18900074
sure, thats why everyone in the west is unhappy in one way or another, acquiring material things shouldn't be an end to strive for

another big problem is blindly trusting arbitrary and factually empty studies and estimates like the hdi bs, you don't need studies to show that the West is declining, in the same way you don't need ncbi studies to tell you when to piss and shit

[Anonymous No.18900127]

>>18900111
Damn, God kind of likes theists now.

[Anonymous No.18900149]

>>18899899
Yeah I should have guessed that one but somehow it eluded me

[Anonymous No.18900156]

>>18900111
Surely the despair has nothing to do with the fact that wealth inequality has reached the point where the average American will be poorer than their parents.
Clearly back in the 80’s and 90’s when America was dramatically more religious, it was far less consumerist and interested in material wealth.

[Anonymous No.18900157]

>>18900000
Dang, things really be do like that.

[Anonymous No.18900179]

>>18899261
he's pretty based

[Anonymous No.18900184]

>>18900111
HDI is honestly not bad, you can definetely see the correlation. Generally, you'll be able to live a better life, whatever that means to you (unless it's about loving the land you were born into, or if you hate certain climates), in countries with the highest HDI.
>you don't need studies to show that the West is declining
Do you mean culturally? Yeah, that's subjective. But you need studies to see objectively that the West is falling, and they do show that. And if you want to know a thing anon, I truly believe it's much more for material reasons than spiritual ones. Deindustrialization is fucking the West.

[Anonymous No.18900191]

>>18900156
>Clearly back in the 80’s and 90’s when America was dramatically more religious, it was far less consumerist and interested in material wealth.
us was always more profound in its materialism, but what you said is obviously true, people didn't spend their money for $1000 electronic toys and the same amount for streaming services every year, also the wealth inequality you speak of is entirely a non issue since like i said material wealth is not an end in itself but at worst a way of control worse than any religion, you only whine in this way because you're indoctrinated to feel bad for minorities wealth inequality in order for the government to deflect while taking away your natural freedom and happines

[Anonymous No.18900219]

>>18900184
>Generally, you'll be able to live a better life
The old saying goes "money doesn't buy happiness."
>Do you mean culturally? Yeah, that's subjective.
You can't be serious, visit the youtube (foremost western cultural medium) front page recently?

[Anonymous No.18900251]

>>18900191
>people didn't spend their money for $1000 electronic toys
They spent tons of money on electronics and technology, you are an absolute idiot.

[Anonymous No.18900256]

>>18900251
Not as much as today and you know it, seethe more until God helps you

[Anonymous No.18900269]

>>18899521
>fear a basic life function
I'd say the people who have the most fear of this basic life function are those who use condoms and other forms of contraception to prevent conception from happening and would get an abortion if they ever did conceive.
The typical mid twenties urbanite is absolutely terrified of having their fun cut short by the natural consequences of sexual behaviour.
Modern, non-reproductive sex is really just people using each others' bodies for masturbation. There's no relation to "basic life functions" in it at all. It's a purely artificial source of animalistic hedonism for children in the bodies of adults who are doing everything they can to avoid having to grow up.

[Anonymous No.18900273]

>>18900256
Are you really harkening back to the 80s and 90s as a time of less materialism?'

[Anonymous No.18900283]

>>18900269
>Modern, non-reproductive sex is really just people using each others' bodies for masturbation
But what is actually wrong about this?

[Anonymous No.18900290]

>>18900269
>artificial
>animalistic
???

[Anonymous No.18900298]

>>18899140
Needing someone to look down on is the fundamental basis of abrahamic religion, especially christianity. The core theme of selective forgiveness is all about letting the subjects shelve their own awfulness as a human being and proceed to look for excuses to look down on others, namely non-believers.

Christianity is literally just selling a superiority complex to people who desperately need some kind of ego-validation in exchange for their loyalty.

[Anonymous No.18900311]

>>18900273
By virtue of emerging markets becoming deeply consumer economies after 90s it is true but like I said you could make a case for US that it was the same type of materialism, but in Europe it was certainly a universally better time. The west is declining in all fields however much you are shutting your eyes.

[Anonymous No.18900316]

>>18900311
Was it a better time or were you just a child with nothing to worry about?

[Anonymous No.18900335]

>>18900316
Factually a better time for all generations.

[Anonymous No.18900341]

>>18900298
I’ll pray for you

[Anonymous No.18900343]

>>18900219
>The old saying goes "money doesn't buy happiness."
Not said you will be happy, said you'll be able to be happier. Remember when Jesus said "Not by bread only...", you see, bread is necessary.
>visit the youtube (foremost western cultural medium) front page recently?
To be honest, no. But TV has been a piece of trash since I was born, I can tell you that.

[Anonymous No.18900345]

>>18899120

[Anonymous No.18900369]

>>18900341
Thank you for demonstrating my point.

[Anonymous No.18900440]

>>18899147
Strongest Sapir-Whorf hypothesis: speakers of different languages are not only governed by different cognitive constraints but also of differing capacity to grasp the nature of the divine.

[Anonymous No.18900474]

God isn't real.
Being LGBT isn't bad.
Jews and black people aren't evil.
Being a leftist isn't wrong.

[Anonymous No.18900574]

>>18900474
>reverse image search
>Russkaja
Every. Single. Time.

[Anonymous No.18900770]

>>18899459
>at times
You mean "generally" since fedora atheism died out years ago and it's entire demographic was absorbed directly into neo-Christianity.
Some of them are literally the same people even.

[Anonymous No.18900781]

>>18899878
Cope

[Anonymous No.18900883]

>>18899931
>DO YOU HAVE A SOURCE FOR THAT?!
Imagine sitting here denying you're an autogynephile while your only contributions to the threads are in the forms of sexually explicit drawings of anime females. Pathetic imbecile.

[Anonymous No.18900892]

>>18899120
Discussion religion on the internet is just awful. To properly discuss it you have to be philosophically and historically informed. Things are more nuance than people would like them to be.

[Anonymous No.18900898]

>>18899507
Dilate faggot. The "Tradcath Zoomer" is a boogeyman and strawman.

[Anonymous No.18900994]

>>18899126
based siddhartha

[Anonymous No.18901006]

>>18899372
Explictly Yahweh's work or he explicitly uses the colloquialism "doing god's work"

[Anonymous No.18901065]

>>18900474
Gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8

[Anonymous No.18901118]

>>18899227
Despite it being correct or incorrect. Religion is a joke, worship is a cult behavior imo.

I been told how much I am "lost in life" with unsolicited advice from family. Meanwhile their children are in prison. Family I disown for the crimes they committed. I went in as a joke to visit one of them and said "You had a lapse in your faith."

>YOUR RIGHT! YOUR RIGHT! I am a born against christian!!

LMFAO what a FUCKING JOKE!

[Anonymous No.18902405]

>>18899179
>Atheists have lower crime rates
usury is a crime
adultery is a crime
lying on the internet is a crime

[Anonymous No.18902409]

Religion is pointless because God has been replaced by Pro Patria and the morals and ethics have become completely central to the various cultures that X religion has been a part of.

[Anonymous No.18902530]

>>18899179
>Nazi Germany was deeply Christian
What is Kirchenkampf

[Anonymous No.18902542]

>>18899120
Le Dune

[Anonymous No.18902946]

>>18899142
You grew up, it's ok anon, being edgy is only cool when you are a teen

[Anonymous No.18903074]

>>18900994
Fuck you buddhafag, Christ is King.

[Anonymous No.18903393]

>>18900298
What's the parable of the pharisee and the publican about?

[Anonymous No.18903525]

>>18899120
The Golden Dawn Complete System of Magic
The Book of Cerimonial Magic by A.E Waite
treatise on the reintegration of beings
The complete works of Louise Claude Saint Martin

[Anonymous No.18903538]

>>18899179
>Also, Nazi Germany was deeply Christian
Only on surface level, Hitler hated Christianity

[Anonymous No.18903551]

>>18899120
>Is anti-whatever because SNL made some “jokes” in denial about the about it current fall of society

[Anonymous No.18903552]

>>18899372
From what I've seen, Hitler's opinion on Christianity is duplicitous, but the Catholic church definitely supported Hitler as well as the majority Catholic populace. Let's not forget all of the wars of religion, colonialisms and other massacres (of course these weren't entirely precipitated by religion, but it shows that Christians had an aberrant "morality" if we are to enthrone morality and not victory as the highest human good)

[Anonymous No.18903583]

>>18903552
>but the Catholic church definitely supported Hitler

[Anonymous No.18903624]

>>18899362

You made zero questions in your response and your grammar is terrible.

Seethe more.

[Anonymous No.18903639]

Religion is a spook. Mega cringe

[Anonymous No.18903656]

>>18903552
>The catholic church supported Hitler

That's some fake history right there, fren. Hitler wanted to replace the Catholic Church (by extension the rest of Christendom) with Islam once he finished conquering Europe.

Are you also going to ignore the fact that average Catholics and Clergymen helped shelter and protect Jewish refugees by disguising them as Catholics?

I guess you can also ignore the fact that the C.C. was able to smuggle away around 700K Jews right underneath Hitler and Mussolini's nose.

[Anonymous No.18903670]

>>18899120
clean your own room first before trying to bring the world in order

[Anonymous No.18903677]

>>18899179
>Nazi Germany was deeply Christian

[Anonymous No.18903683]

>>18899459

t.fedora-bugman

[Anonymous No.18903704]

>>18899931
>>18899530
>>18899292
you will never bbe a woman.