What are good books on permaculture and off-the-grid living?

[Anonymous No.18890453]

What are some essential books about permaculture and off-the-grid living?

Let's assume I know nothing and have no skills. What can I read so I can prepare for a post-urban life?

[Anonymous No.18890492]

>>18889279
This thread is a slightly different topic, but you might like some of the recommendations

[Anonymous No.18890530]

>>18890453

[Anonymous No.18891092]

>>18890492
I'll definitely check it out!

>>18890530
Cool, thanks for the recommend.

[Anonymous No.18892015]

>>18890453
>>18890530
Both are good books.

[Anonymous No.18892411]

>>18890453
>What are some essential books about permaculture and off-the-grid living?
Unless you already have lots of money to LARP that's probably not going to work out for you and you'll eventually fail

>What can I read so I can prepare for a post-urban life?
If you're really a schizoid your best option is to just study ways to survive in a decaying urban environment (dumpster diving/how to kill a tweaking out hobo with your hands/scavenging/etc) or urban environment under siege e.g. Stalingrad or any other fucked up scenario

[Anonymous No.18893019]

Try Jean-Martin Fortier’s The Market Gardener and Eliot Coleman’s New Organic Grower.

[Anonymous No.18893761]

>>18892411
>Unless you already have lots of money
Depending on how deep into the woods I want to go, I have more than enough money for a few arces. The problem is the lack of infrastructure. And failure is not an option

> just study ways to survive in a decaying urban environment
Recs?

>>18893019
Thanks! Got both of 'em now.

[Anonymous No.18893859]

>>18890530
>radical
why use such termonlogy?

[Anonymous No.18893869]

>>18890453
>>18890530
>>18893019
They seem interesting but I'm don't have land and can't afford it.

[Anonymous No.18893882]

this kind of stuff you'll learn by doing not reading
find out what grows in the area you want to be (especially from old timers and locals) and start trying to grow it
my area (a desert) heavily limits what I can grow outside of obvious desert plants but even with killing stuff it's still fun to try other plants

[Anonymous No.18893920]

>>18890530
>damn brah, im such a radical, im making a garden.
you know, people make and have gardens without having to huff their farts about it, right?
I made one with my mom because it was a fun activity 2 do and we get a tomato every now and then.

[Anonymous No.18894310]

>>18893859
>>18893920
>Will’s Scatterseed Project hosts and preserves thousands of genetically diverse crops well-suited to Maine’s seasons and soils. The project focuses on a few vegetable families and makes a valiant effort to keep viable a healthy selection of genetics. One of Will’s main focuses is clonally propagated tubers with over 700 varieties of potatoes and the most extensive jerusalem artichoke collection in North America. Scatterseed is beyond heroic, maintaining 1200 pea varieties as well as other legumes: chickpeas, favas and runnerbeans.

Don't ever disrespect my good friend Will Bonsall like that ever again or I will put you in the pit with his rare potatoes.

[Anonymous No.18894447]

>>18890453

[Anonymous No.18894461]

>>18894310
ok, but why not just say you are making a cool garden that works well rather than saying its radical like some sort of poof.

[Anonymous No.18894475]

>>18890453
>>18894447
Fukuoka is the Japanese father of permaculture. Lots of practical and simple innovations, e.g. seed bombs.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seed_ball

[Anonymous No.18894493]

>>18894461
>Spend 50 years saving and preserving hundreds of rare potato and bean species from extinction
>Not radical
Will Bonsall would bury you with the turnips.

[Anonymous No.18894548]

>>18894461
The idea of farming based on natural principles was pretty radical back when agriculture studies were based on Western farming practices. It relies solely on nonintervention and local ecology for produce which is also, if not radical, then highly unorthodox—most backyard gardeners rely on nonlocal crops and soils, and as a result need to tend to the land (water, fertilize, weed…) where nature doesn’t.

[Anonymous No.18895336]

bermacumpture

[Anonymous No.18896040]

>>18890453
>>18893869
From what I've heard, the original book by Curtis Stone actually has him knocking on the doors of his neighbours saying 'Hey, do you have space on your lawn and backyard? I will pay you money so I can garden on it'. Despite paying for rent for the land, he makes money off all of his endeavours.

[Anonymous No.18896198]

Any decent reads on mushroom farming and identification? On the former point more of farming a forested plot rather than having an indoor set up.

[Anonymous No.18896217]

>>18890453
Five acres and independents use to be the manual for people who wanted to start small farms that were profitable. Now it’s a good book with a lot of practical advice on how to make a farm that will sustain a family, but in the current economy, not enough to make money on.

[Anonymous No.18896501]

>>18896198
I don't know, but the other thread (>>18890492) someone posted pic rel.

[Anonymous No.18896777]

>>18893882
It's good advice. Part of what I need is a base knowledge and general direction to start planting.

>>18894310
>>18894493
That's awesome!

>>18896217
The whole modern economy aspect of things is a real downer. Nevertheless, this looks like a very solid book.

[Anonymous No.18896816]

>>18893761
>deep into the woods
Don't just go into the woods on your own unless you already know how to be self sufficient. Your best bet is working within a tight nit, rural community. People there will likely still know how to raise crops and livestock. There will be hunters and sowers among them too. Your best bet is to be around people that have some knowledge of self sufficiency. When shit hits the fan and if your in a supportive community, you can all rely on each other for support.

I've been reading Gaias Garden for permaculture, but John Seymours Guide to Self Sufficiency is great too

[Anonymous No.18896820]

>>18896501
thanks lad, will give it a look

[Anonymous No.18898270]

>>18896198
No recc for identification, but Stamets's book Growing Gourmet & Medicinal Mushrooms is a classic for cultivation

[Anonymous No.18898394]

>>18898270
>Bee lord, keeper of the bees