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> Highsmith was outspoken about her anti-Semitism, often decrying what she saw as global Jewish influence and referring to the Holocaust as “Holocaust Inc.,”
>“When she wasn’t calling the Holocaust ‘Holocaust, Inc.,’ she was referring to it as the ‘semicaust’” — implying that Highsmith was disappointed that the Jewish population hadn’t been completely destroyed.
>she displayed a pair of Confederate swords in every one of her homes and once named the Civil War general Robert E. Lee as her favorite historical figure.
dare i say... based?

>> No.18884795

>>18884677
yet a woman, lesbian and social democrat.

>> No.18884867

>>18884677
Highsmith is one of the qtiest sociopaths ever.

>> No.18884890

I will never read anything by her and am doubtful that the Mr. Ripley novel is better than its competent film adaptation.

>> No.18885028

Her "anti-Semitism" was only a result of her support of Palestine. People can't appreciate it now because many modern Jews have turned on Zionism, but in the mid 20th century, the entire Jewish community in America was so staunchly Zionist it was disgusting. Unfortunately I could see how anti-zionism could manifest into anti-semitism.

As for the other stuff, her family was from Alabama and she shared her birthday with Lee. The confederates really were not controversial until 20 years ago, Jimmy Carter used to praise Robert E Lee all the time.

>> No.18885036

>>18884677
Her writing is good. She writes genre, but it’s good genre. Like Chandler or Hammett but with her own aesthetic.

>> No.18885539

>>18884677
>'semicaust'
Why not 'hemicaust'?

>> No.18885620

>>18884890
strangers on a train was a great read imo
>doubtful that the Mr. Ripley novel is better than its competent film adaptation
the american friend is the only decent ripley adaptation.
and maybe purple noon.

>> No.18885622

>>18884890
m8 you can just not post instead of saying things that out you as a pleb on two fronts

>> No.18885959

>>18885028
>in the mid 20th century, the entire Jewish community in America was so staunchly Zionist it was disgusting
i'd really like to learn more how leon uris' exodus played into all this, not only with jews but westerners in general. feels like a very consent-manufacturing piece of work

>> No.18886442

>looks like a boy, is racist, especially hates kikes
I’d fuck him

>> No.18886451

>>18884677
she looks like a qt
didn't read your post btw

>> No.18886460

>>18884677
Based cutie

>> No.18886475

>>18885539
Why not 'demicaust'?

>> No.18886548

>>18885959
Don't know who that is, but I'd say the New Left most likely caused the drift away from Zionism. Jewish college kids who absorbed the progressive social views of their New Dealer parents realized the complete hypocrisy of their support for Zionism.

>> No.18886554

>>18886451
There's nekkid pics of her bewbs by her gay bf

>> No.18888186

>>18884677
she cute

>> No.18888205

>>18884677
lesbianism is /lit/ as fuck

>> No.18888238

women are allowed to be insane and popularised. there's a bunch of creepy pedophiles in feminism for example.

>> No.18888301

>>18888238
Highsmith is far more creepy than Beauvoir. Beauvoir may be a pedophile and have a better understanding of Heidegger than Sartre, but she is nowhere near as sociopathic as Highsmith.
Being insane and popularised isn't exactly a female only thing either.

>> No.18888394

>>18888301
How is she a sociopath?

>> No.18888452

>>18888205
In your dreams I guess. Theres nothing more against art than women.

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>>18884677

>> No.18888510

>>18888394
she just is! OK?

>> No.18888511

>>18888394
Basically read anything about her. If they're trying to be kind to her the worst they're going to say is mean drunk, or racist, or kind of rapey. If they're being less kind, they'll talk about her harassing the parents of a murder victim for details, or how she thought murder was an act of love which is why she didn't kill her mother, or how she liked to fuck new gfs in exgfs beds, sometimes as a way to make them an ex sometimes just cuz, or about how she would show up drunk and unannounced after no contact for twenty years to throw a tantrum. But that doesn't really encompass how crazy the lady is. The faghagging, conversion therapy, getting more racist or drinking heavily could just be being American.
But most Americans, even with the mass shootings and opiate epidemic, the endless porn mill and degenerate sexuality, would never think to stick snails to the underside of their boobs because it was easier to smuggle them through customs that way than fill out the paperwork.

>> No.18888514

>>18888205
This. Sappho, Aphra Benn, Virginia Woolf, Gertrude Stein, Marguerite Yourcenar, the list goes on...

>> No.18888518

>>18888511
>Paris Hilton puts a small dog in a handbag
>Omg cruelty call PETA! She's so soulless omg
>Patricia Highsmith puts snails on a piece of lettuce in her handbag because she wants good company at the party
>Leave her be, she knows what she is doing, and she might know where you live.

>> No.18889216

>>18888205
>>18888514
I wonder if lesbianism is more correlated with writing than homosexuality is.

i.e. compare

% of female authors who are lesbians /
% of females who are lesbians

with

% of male authors who are homosexuals /
% of males who are homosexuals

My feeling is that the first number will be appreciably higher.

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>>18884677
>HECKIN BASED NAZI GIRLERINO CONFEDERACINO I LUV ME SOME HECKIN CUTE AND BASED NAZI WOMEN THAT HATE JEWS!!1 I LOVE TO IMAGINE WHAT IT WUD BE LIKE TO HAVE HER AS MY GF THAT WOULD BE BAAAAAASEDERINO TEN WE CUD BE A NAZERINO COUPLERINO HECKIN TOGETHERINO!! WE CUD POST ABOUT THE HECKIN JEWERINOS TOGETHER ON IMAGEBOARDERINOS!

>> No.18890177

>>18889250
She's gay, dude.

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Cute boobs desu

>> No.18890406

>>18885028
>Unfortunately I could see how anti-zionism could manifest into anti-semitism.
Some people are like this (mainly right wing), but left wing antizionism is not antisemite in the least
Honestly, Palestinians are semites. You can't be an antisemite and shout free Palestine.
Btw, many pro Israel right wingers support Israel only because they hate Arabs/Muslim

>> No.18890411

>>18888511
>they'll talk about her harassing the parents of a murder victim for details, or how she thought murder was an act of love which is why she didn't kill her mother,
wtf

>> No.18890454

>>18890231
I dont see any.

>> No.18890507

>>18888514
>sappho
kys tranny stop projecting your mental disorder onto ancient peoples

>> No.18890630

>>18890406
>>but left wing antizionism is not antisemite in the least
You know how I know you're too young to remember the left's open support towards Iran under Ahmadinejad and the Red Army Faction's support towards the 1970 Olympics massacre or New Left communist militants helping hijack the airplane from the Entebbe raid that involved separating the jews from the other hostages and killing them.

Thats not getting into the leftist support for all manner of Arab nationalists with less than stellar beliefs about jews.

>> No.18891120

>>18890630
>>18890630
>You know how I know you're too young to remember the left's open support towards Iran under Ahmadinejad
Kek, Ahmadinejad was like yesterday. I don't know anyone who supported him btw
>Red Army Faction's support towards the 1970 Olympics massacre
Olympic athletes are not civilians
Olympics are simulated wars and heavily intertwined with politics
It's laughable that "Olympic massacre bad! 9/11 bad!" just because of their symbolic potential, while a random bombing on a random village does not evoke the same emotions in the public (or get the same attention in media, which is the same)
>New Left communist militants helping hijack the airplane from the Entebbe raid that involved separating the jews from the other hostages and killing them.
I don't know this one, tell me more
This >that involved separating the jews from the other hostages and *killing them*.
from a quick read, never happened btw

>> No.18891299

>>18890630
>>18891120
>these idiots think they're still discussing Highsmith
Water finds its own level and you both know yours is below pulp. There are women in train stations looking at those rotating wire bookcases of beach reads who would have a better grasp on the subject at hand. Wtf are you even doing here?

>> No.18891319

>>18888452
triggered lol
>>18890507
>Sappho wasn't a lesbian
bro...

>> No.18891330
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18891330

>>18890507

A good an opportunity as any to explore the etymyology of the term "sapphic"

>> No.18891515

>>18884677
kek. Are her books any good though? Should I start with the train one?

>> No.18891577

>>18888511
She just sounds like an alcoholic, not a sociopath. I could be accused of half of those things when I was drinking.

>> No.18891583

>>18884795
like op said.
based.

>> No.18891768

>>18891577
She wouldn't be well adjusted if she was sober, anon. She is female though, so she'd be considered BPD not a sociopath even if she cut up bunnies and force fed them to small children.
>>18891515
Yeah, her books are great. She's really good at laying out a murder and characters. Sometimes you wind up hating people because they didn't kill someone, or liking them because they did. She's also one of those writers who has no problem with every character's plans failing, regardless of if their intentions were good or bad. The Cry of the Owl and Deep Water are two early ones that show that without being already famous for their gimmick (like Strangers on a Train is usually reduced to its basic premise, not to say that it is gimmicky)
Any of her books are a good start, but obviously the Ripleyiad makes more sense in order. Weirdly, The Price of Salt, her lesbian novel, is often called the only happy lesbian novel. The rest I've read are misanthropic as fuck.

>> No.18891809

>>18891299
>>these idiots think they're still discussing Highsmith
I don't even know who she is. Relax. You understood nothing and yet you call me idiot?

>> No.18891896

>>18891809
Yes, I get that you think this is an opportunity to shove Lego up your nose and eat glue.

>> No.18891944

>>18891768
Cool I will check out the train one first then. I haven't read a femoid fiction writer since I was forced to read TKAM in high school, but if she's a dark edgelord I can bare that much easier than moralistic tripe about rayycism.

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>>18891944
*bear

>> No.18891985

>>18891896
???
Are the lego in this room right now, anon?

>> No.18892095

>>18891944
Reading shit for school usually fucks any book. I think I'd have liked Of Mice and Men, because I love all Steinbeck's other shit, but I had to listen to it at a fucking snail's pace with retarded commentary in school so it does nothing for me. All his other shit made me cry like a baby.
Some females are good writers, but basically don't listen to any feminist on the subject because they'll recommend shit books they haven't read. I hear more about Highsmith from guys, like how guys recommend Dashiell Hammett while girls will recommend Agatha Christie. The two I recommended are domestic disputes, but I think feminists would call them victim blaming or evidence of rape culture or whatever.

>> No.18892383

>>18891577
>I could be accused of half of those things when I was drinking.
D-did you do the snails bit? Pics?

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18892477

>>18892383
Not him, but a girl I know brought her rat at school

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>>18884677
My god, women hit the wall hard

>> No.18893295

>>18893285
>invite Highsmith on a live show about how to survive a murder where there is endless free booze
Who thought this was a good idea?

>> No.18893352

>>18884677
>in later years she became convinced that black people were responsible for the welfare crisis in America.[65] She disliked Koreans because "they ate dogs".[57]
based

>> No.18893514

>>18893285
i need to quit smoking

>> No.18893549

>>18893285
>>18893514
Think she's sixty seven in that pic. Tbph, for a smoker and heavy drinker who's also a lesbian, that's not bad looking. The show probably scrubbed her up a bit, but I've seen Botox and clean living addicts who look as rough in their thirties.

>> No.18893596

>>18893352
Literally the absolute ignoramus take desu

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>>18893596
>Literally the absolute ignoramus take desu

>> No.18895501

>>18893352
hehe

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>>18884677
>Holocaust Inc.
>semicaust

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>> No.18897262

>>18896988
see >>18890231

>> No.18898120

>>18884795
The last two were redundant.

>> No.18898422

>>18885028
According to recent polls upwards of 95% of jews in America support Israel and Zionism

>> No.18898567

>>18888452
Lesbians aren't feminine, that's the point. Almost all great female artists are lesbos, asexual/frigid, autiste or just ugly

>> No.18898587

>>18884677
If Highsmith were alive today she would cyberbully Chris Chan

>> No.18898713

>>18890406
Even "antizionism" is a bit of a farce among leftists.
>Ok, so you support the expulsion of all Jews from Israel and repatriation to Europe, North America, Russia, etc.?
>Well, no, but... Israel is an APARTHEID STATE! And that's MEAN!
They're ultimately in-house moral critics while still living on the Arabs' land

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>>18898713
I personally support the Madagascar plan.

>> No.18898804

>>18898567
Yup. Females make the highs higher and the lows more frequent. The order of best writing is the author's relative hatred of women, so in order of descending talent you have:
>Lesbians
>Small power gap
>Gay men and some bisexual men
>Bisexual women
>Large power gap
>Straight people who are asexual due to circumstances (work long hours or live in isolation)
>Large power gap
>Straight normies who write genre fiction because they have nothing better to do
Lesbians have more disappointment in women than straight men do. Gay men find women naturally disappointing, but don't have the added disappointment of having to fuck them. Straight men want to fuck women enough half the time they forget how often they're disappointed. Even in genrefic, AC Clarke got a much further reach than most despite fucking Thai pool boys or whatever.