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As one of the few pagan users on this board I feel the necessity to treasure the genres which inherited the essence of our ancestral religions the most such as pastoral novels and poetry, historical plays and opera.

>> No.18872284

>>18872184
Based Jarilo, twink slavic god of fertility and spring

I want to see just how breedable and fertile he is..

>> No.18872305

>>18872184
Not pagan but if I had to chose a religion it would be germanic paganism like it was practiced back then, as part of culture. I would want to be buried either in a hill tomb or burned on a boat. Not larping, am actually from Northern Europe, this is my culture. I don't think Christianity is any less part of my peoples history though, so why not mix both?

>> No.18872334

>>18872305
You mean, become a catholic?

>> No.18872338

>>18872284
That's a male? That's hot.

>> No.18872357

>>18872334
The idea that Catholicism is pagan is protty propaganda.

>> No.18872560

>>18872357
Syncretism was certainly a thing tho.

>> No.18872710
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>>18872184


1. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A «PAGAN RELIGION»; THERE ARE PAGAN CULTS.

2. PAGAN CULTS DO NOT PERTAIN TO «YOUR ANCESTORS»; YOUR ANCESTORS WERE MOST LIKELY CHRISTIAN AT BEST; ATHEISTS, OR HERETICS, AT WORST; STOP RENEGING OF THE ONLY TRUE RELIGION, STOP BEING DELUSIONAL.

3. IT IS SO HYPOCRITICAL THAT «PAGANS» ALWAYS TEND TO USE IMAGES LIKE THE ONE ATTACHED TO YOUR POST TO SHOWCASE WHATEVER PAGAN CULT WITH WHICH THEY IDENTIFY, DEPICTING PSEUDOIDYLLICAL MERRIMENT, AND FOLKIC PULCHRITUDE, AS IF FROM A «MYTHICAL GOLDEN AGE», WHEN THE REALITY OF PAGAN CULTS IS RESUMED IN IMAGES LIKE THE ONE ATTACHED TO THIS POST, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT PAGAN CULTS CONSTITUTE: DEMONISTIC VENERATION & APPEASEMENT, APPEASEMENT WHICH IS NEVER SATISFYING, AND ALWAYS BLOODY.

FEW THINGS ARE MORE THANATICAL & NIHILISTIC THAN NOSTALGIA FOR SAVAGERY.

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>>18872710
>we christians are civilized!
kill yourself you rootless mutt subhuman abomination, and yes I know you're from some south american shit hole because white people stopped caring about christianity long ago

>> No.18872752

>>18872732


KEEP SEETHING, BECAUSE THAT IS ALL THAT YOU HAVE: IMPOTENT, IRRATIONAL, ARGUMENTLESS RAGE.

>> No.18872756

>>18872710
What's wrong about the image? Seems pretty cool.

>> No.18872774

>>18872752
The arguments used by Plotinus, Proclus and Iamblichus own whatever fat sack of shit theologian christcucks ever had. Neoplatonism was never refuted and it can be applied to all polytheist religions. PS, religion derives from the latin "religio" which was used to define the ancient roman polytheist cult, you're so fucking illiterate you should probably go back to your christcuck discord and stop humiliating yourself any further.

>> No.18872786

>>18872184
What is the Christian Bible if not a bundle of pastoral images

>> No.18872798

>>18872774
lel your argument from etymology is practically useless cunt
>neoplatonism
literally what? if it's not in the bible it doesn't matter

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18872804

????

>> No.18872812

>>18872798
>if it's not in the bible it doesn't matter
Christians rely heavily of platonism and egyptian doctrines to make sense out of the trinity lmao, why are you christcucks so unbelievably illiterate?

>> No.18872846

>>18872798
>if it's not in the bible it doesn't matter

That's not true. Please, if you're a Prot heretic, don't "help".

>> No.18872871

>>18872846
it is true. all truth comes from the Bible, everything else is secondary teaching which is sanctioned by the Bible.

>> No.18872973

>>18872871
Does evolution come from the Bible?

>> No.18873052

>>18872710
>>18872752
Why are Catholics like this, as annoying as Muslims.

>> No.18873586

>>18872973
Evolution is refuted in the Holy Bible.

>> No.18873607

>>18872710
What a terrible poster. Is it butterfly's smurf?

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>>18872710
>>18872752
BASADVS

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18873635

Never forget that man’s highest duty to the Gods is to STOP replying to triptard posts

>> No.18873638

>>18873586
Then how do you explain your views having evolved? After all, no one before 1950 held the views that you do now.

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>>18872357

>> No.18873685

>>18873683
?

>> No.18873694
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18873694

>>18872710
Damn, paganism sure looks identical to christianism...

>> No.18873709

>>18873694
>murderous heretic sect
>Christian

k

>> No.18873711

>>18873685
Does that look non-pagan to you?

>> No.18873716

>>18873711
You’re dumb.

>> No.18873723

>>18873709
Amazing command of history.
The Waldensians are the ones being burned by Catholics.
No need to reply.

>> No.18873737

>>18873723
The waldensians were the murderous sect, retard. And they were executed under political law, not under ecclesial law, so i don’t know what your argument even is.

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>>18873716
>no argument
:)
>Donate rings and earrings to coat in gold Holy Mary's statue, said the priest - +90k $ raised

cf Exodus 32,2-4
2 Aaron answered them, “Take off the gold earrings that your wives, your sons and your daughters are wearing, and bring them to me.” 3 So all the people took off their earrings and brought them to Aaron. 4 He took what they handed him and made it into an idol cast in the shape of a calf, fashioning it with a tool. Then they said, “These are your gods, Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt.”

>> No.18873762

>>18873737
>The waldensians were the murderous sect
False
>And they were executed under political law
False, again, it wasn't an execution
>i don’t know what your argument even is.
Yeah, that was quite apparent. As I said, no need to reply.

>> No.18873779

>>18873749
Yes, I see that you have no argument. So? And quoting random passages doesn’t make for an argument.

>> No.18873786

>>18873762
What a waste of thread space your posts are. Why even post if you have nothing to say?

>> No.18873792

>>18873711
>it's aesthetically pleasing therefore it's evil
I love how Christian philosophy just loops right back to Tertullian saying that the Gods are evil and wicked precisely because they are beautiful and good and just because he personally couldn't stop fucking little boys. It's like Christianity had to come full circle before it could die.

>> No.18873800

>>18873792
That’s Protestants, not Christians.

>> No.18873808

>>18873792
>>it's aesthetically pleasing therefore it's evil
Who are you quoting here?
Not me, that's for sure.

>> No.18873810

>>18873800
But then you end up with dumb shit like "Christianity doesn't start until 730AD" or whatever because you have to exclude the entirety of the Church Fathers. At that point you might as well just admit that it's the European aspects of Medieval Christianity that you like, which is basically just admitting that "Paganism" (whatever the fuck that means) is the correct religion.

>> No.18873873

>>18873810
> But then you end up with dumb shit like "Christianity doesn't start until 730AD" or whatever because you have to exclude the entirety of the Church Fathers. At that point you might as well just admit that it's the European aspects of Medieval Christianity that you like

Nah.

>> No.18873879

>>18872774
>Neoplatonism can be applied to all polytheist religions
Are you legitimately retarded?

>> No.18873897

>>18873879
No, he's quoting Plato and Plotinus and Iamblichus.

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>>18872184
And?

>> No.18873977

>>18873897
Lel

>> No.18874032

>>18872184
How many bulls did you sacrifice this past year? if 0, then you're not a pagan

>> No.18874044

>>18872334
based and true

>> No.18874138

>>18873940
why you making me jerk off again

>> No.18874164

>>18872710
How can this kid be wrong and stupid about everything?

>> No.18874210

>>18874164
he's a mexican intellectual

>> No.18874498

>>18872184
If more e-pagans focused on such radiant and happy imagery like this, I might very well have become one, but wignats had to ruin it.

>> No.18874502

>>18872184
strongest pagan larper...

>> No.18875567

>>18872798
>literally what? if it's not in the bible it doesn't matter
The absolute state of christkikes

>> No.18875787

>>18872710
tldr + kys tripfag

>> No.18875802

>>18873897
And Christianity can be applied to polytheist religions. The Gods just become demons.

>> No.18875829

>>18875802
Christianity IS polytheistic, the bible refers to Elohim in plural. Both God and Satan are Elohim and there are allusions to the existence of more. Essentially the Bible is mostly descendant of Sumerian mythology and hence polytheism is conserved where it matters. The monotheism is a later invention, completely in odds with the christian holy texts.

Doesn't change the fact that Platonism in all forms has always been aligned with paganism (until being pagan started getting you burned at the cross). The school of Ammonius was the only one which in some ways pushed for Christianity, but there is a reason they mostly remained pagans. The eidos and the Neoplatonic doctrines of multiplicity are at odds with medieval scholasticism.

>> No.18876010

>>18875829
You got it backwards. Polytheism is a debasement of monotheism by low-IQ plebs, and Sumerian mythology is a garbled later version of the original myths that were better preserved in the Bible.

>> No.18876017

>>18872184
>few pagan users on this board
what are you talking about
there's lots of christcucks here

>> No.18876045

>>18872184
authentic paganism is "atheistic" in the sense that the ancient pagans did not believe in the physical existence of their gods, rather, their gods represented various things, namely, various aspects of nature, human beings, ancestors and their descendants.

>> No.18876131

>>18876045
>authentic paganism is "atheistic" in the sense that the ancient pagans did not believe in the physical existence of their gods
This was refuted even by stoics like Cicero in "On the Gods". You should read books on pagan theology before regurgitating the shit 4chan christian LARPers say.

>> No.18876144

Greeks had contact with mahayana buddhism in the graeco-bactrian kingdom. Return to buddhism neopagan larpers.

>> No.18876204

>>18876010
take your meds

>> No.18876234

>>18876045
In as much as Zeus wasn't just a big dude with a beard in the sky, yes, but they clearly believed that he was there. An omnipresent omnipotent omniscient presence that reality itself is dependent upon, sure, but that's still believing them to be physically real.

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18876354

If I could celebrate old pagan traditiona with people from my village (area) and those I generally see I certainly would, but all we got today is freaks from all over come together at one spit and then we have some 200 strangers who are simply too strange and awkward to make the event as meaningful as it should be.

Till paganism becomes more mainstream I will stuck to in my head pretending the summer solstice fire we annually have is a living pagan event without anyone admitting to it.

>> No.18876362

>>18876354
I wont correct my typos...

>> No.18876383

Pagan: "jew"
Christian: "no u are"

/thread

>> No.18876462

>>18872710
You type and sound like a fag but your post is based.

>> No.18876470

>>18872710
t. didn't read Cortes's personal report of the Aztecs when he first arrived.
>thinks that Christian post-conquest slander of the natives counts as real history

>> No.18876748

>>18872710
>... and they lynch child molesters!!
why would a Catholic care about this?

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18876755

for me, it's the Prūsiskan culture

>> No.18876823

>>18876354
If you need a religion to be mainstream to believe in it you're just a LARPing atheist faggot.

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>At particularly difficult times for the people, such as war and harvest failure, humans were also sacrificed, most of whom were prisoners captured in battle. The chronicles mentions occasions when the Old Prussians burnt captured crusaders together with their horses and weapons.

incredibly based. fuck xtians

>> No.18876891

>>18876823
retarded take. go jerk off in the woods if you think a one man religion is worth anything.

>> No.18876926

>>18876891
Just fuck off back to plebbit you attention whoring zoomer faggot, I'm sure you'll be able to LARP as a either a progressive pagan on tiktok or as a raging /pol/tard with your fellow contrarians if you value attention so much. I don't need anybody's approval to worship the Gods.

>> No.18876981

>>18876891
t. literal bug man

>> No.18877317

>>18876823
My point isn’t the Pagan LARP as though it were a true religion, but rather a cultural event where people come together (which therefore implies the region I specifically live in).
The way the summerfests exists in germany where there is a huge bonfire, but also add festive clothing and a highlight event perhaps for children then young guys and also women where “something” like a Yarilo can be a symbolic drive.

While I am trapped in demiurge prison under the tyranny of moment passing upon moment, I find this coming together of spirits superior to nihilism, ironic living or any hedonistic endeavor most would follow. (i.e. Platonist understanding of the means of friendship) The Pagan aspects would simply be a motivator in the material for the people.

t. initial poster

>> No.18877345

>>18872710
Based

>> No.18877363

>>18877317
>While I am trapped in demiurge prison under the tyranny of moment passing upon moment
Your first mistake was being a gnostic tranny, accept neoplatonism and everything will fall in place

>> No.18877432

>>18874498
yeah fuck Wiccans

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>tfw no femboy god bf

>> No.18877450

>>18876144
They may have had contact but that doesn't mean they believed it.

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>>18874498
>why doesn't this ethnically cleansed minority have happier aesthetics?
>don't they have anything like le soulful negro spirituals?
kys

>> No.18877462

>>18872710
Heartbreaking: Tripfag made a great point

>> No.18877479

>>18874498
>I would have pledged my soul to a religion if I saw more happy images on the internet.
The STATE of moderns

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>>18874498
>If more e-pagans focused on such radiant and happy imagery like this, I might very well have become one, but wignats had to ruin it.
There are quite a handful of slavic paganism painters in Russia, I don't know whether they believe in the Gods though.

>> No.18877571

>>18877363
Can’t deny what is true.
I have seen myself outside prison of time and know no knowledge within is true.

>> No.18877575

>>18874498
>t. woman (mind)

>> No.18877637

>>18872710
Looks pretty good to me, buddy.

>> No.18877647

>>18872710
I HEAR YOU! YOU DON’T HAVE TO SCREAM!

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>>18876144
Based Bactrian poster

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18877673

You have no idea how much I wish I could experience an initiation into the Eleusinian mysteries

>> No.18878721

b this sentiment

>> No.18879034

>>18877454
Couldn't this same logic just be turned around to favor blacks whenever someone complains about the themes in rap music?
>>18877479
That's hyperbole, but when I was spiritually lost and searching, seeing pagans talk about how much they would have raped every korean and vietnamese they saw if they had fought in those wars certainly didn't help sway me, especially given the fact I have asian friends and a half asian cousin.
>>18877489
This looks quite nice, anon :)
Although I am not Slavic and I am comfortable with where I am now in terms of spirituality.

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18879295

To all the pagans on the board, name two gods you unironically worship and your routine for praising them.

>> No.18879306

>>18879295
>name two gods you unironically worship
Mercury and Minerva
>your routine for praising them.
Burning incense, making offerings and praying to them, what do you expect?

>> No.18879770

>>18873940
What the fuck is going on over here

>> No.18879871

>>18877489
>I don't know whether they believe in the Gods though.
They absolutely do. Russians are incapable of irony.

Whether your country's stereotype of "Pagans" is "faggy hippies getting high" or "giga-Nazi Anti-Semites" is actually a leading indicator as to whether your country aligns more closely with America or Russia. Poland's Pagan scene actually flipped when Poland moved into the US's sphere of influence.

>> No.18880903

b for Wotan

>> No.18880987

How is anyone actually a pagan today
The entire thing is a reconstruction you have no idea how much would even be recognized by pagans before the line of tradition was severed

>> No.18881391

>>18872184
Neopaganism is postmodern pathetism at it's finest.Nigger your ancestors have been Christian for 1000 years.
The only thing you are worshipping is your ego. Reconstructed religions are a literal spiritual death. They are just a childish rejection of Christianity, just like the new atheism fedora types.

>> No.18881400

>>18881391
>stop rejecting the traditional faith you foolish children
Come now if people had listened to that sort of limp defense there would be no Christianity

>> No.18881449

>>18881400
The only traditional faith in Europe that exist today is Christianity. Unless you were born in the 900s you will never be a pagan, but don't get surprised when you get bores and abandon the larp without any meaningful spiritual progress, that's a given when the predominant factors in your connection to your ""faith"" are tv series and videogames.

>> No.18881480

>>18881449
Congrats on totally missing the point, and bonus points on not realizing that neopaganism isn't even about fidelity to ancestry, because as you point out, the actual ancestral religion is Christianity for as long as one's ancestry reasonably matters to their identity and recognition by others. No, what is happening is a great decentralization of spirituality into varieties of competing cults and beliefs, and it will be a long time before a combination of big tent plus selective purging results in anything reasonably uniform. The real larp is being a young man and pretending that sitting around with geriatrics in an old building in between your 4channel sessions is going to rejuvenate Christian spirituality.

>> No.18881502

Christians seething about pagan LARP makes me want to LARP even harder and more unironically desu.

>> No.18881550

>>18881480
Spirituality is not getting decentralized lmao, that's literally impossible since it's just an internal phenomenon that's developed through religon.
What's happening is the commodification of religion emptying it of it's core substance, that is spirituality. Thinking you can just pick a religion because of certain cultural affinities, political motivations or aesthetical reasons is so in line with the postmodern consumerist culture we live in that it's unironically sad to see so much people falling into this trap.
Revival of tradition is not only impossible, it's a direct mockery of it.

>> No.18881627

>>18881502
Paganism literally has always been LARPing, from the very beginning. Costumes, masks, dances, rituals are LARP, by definition.

>> No.18881775

>>18879295
Zeus and Dionysus, I get shitfaced and go on raping sprees.

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>>18881627
>Costumes, masks, dances, rituals are LARP, by definition.
I guess it isn't LARP so long as you can LARP as your favorite jews and pray with jewish words while pretending a piece of flat bread is the body of a dead schizophrenic jew? And sucking nigger toes is totally legit non-LARP behavior.

>> No.18881993

>>18872804
>GEE BILLY, YOU GET TWO WEINERS?

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>>18872710
99.9999999999999% of your ancestors were not Christians. Christianity is weakness. Let me guess you are one of those people who think Jesus is coming back any day now. Your defeatism is why the west has embraced so much degeneracy as if 100+ years into the future doesn't really matter since Jesus will come back within the next 50 years for sure so yolo lol! Christcucks get the bullet.

>> No.18882002

>>18879295
For me? Antinous-as-Dionysos

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Yes, this is my provisional lararium. I'm gonna get a proper one soon.

>> No.18882128

>>18872774
You have never read Plotinus. Holy fuck you are retarded.

>> No.18882393

>>18882128
>You have never read Plotinus.
You will never be a woman

>> No.18882406

>>18881995
99.9999999999999% of your ancestors were not human, jackass

>> No.18882425

>>18881550
>Thinking you can just pick a religion because of certain cultural affinities, political motivations or aesthetical reasons
Ah and what motivated your turn to christian fundamentalism on 4channel? Seems very pomo to me

>> No.18882651

>>18881995
seethe, cope, dilate, etc.
It's just sad at this point nibba.
Find some friends.

>> No.18883859

>>18882651
say Nigger next time, you tranny kike faggot, or fuck off to where from came from.