Bob Dylan accused of sexually abusing a 12-year-old in 1965

[Anonymous No.18863914]

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/aug/16/bob-dylan-accusations-sexual-abuse-lawsuit

>A new lawsuit alleges that Bob Dylan, the Nobel-winning folk singer-songwriter, plied a 12-year-old girl with drugs and alcohol before sexually abusing her in 1965.
>The lawsuit alleges that the Times They Are A-Changin’ singer “befriended and established an emotional connection with the plaintiff”, identified in Manhattan supreme court papers, obtained by the Guardian, only as “JC” and groomed her over the course of six weeks in April and May 1965.
>The suit, filed late Friday on behalf of JC, now a 68-year-old woman living in Greenwich, Connecticut, alleges that Dylan, then 23 or 24 years old, “exploited his status as a musician by grooming JC to gain her trust and to obtain control over her as part of his plan to sexually molest and abuse” her.
>According to the complaint, Dylan established a “connection” with JC to “lower her inhibitions with the object of sexually abusing her, which he did, coupled with the provision of drugs, alcohol and threats of physical violence, leaving her emotionally scarred and psychologically damaged to this day”.
>The suit alleges that Dylan, given name Robert Allen Zimmerman, abused the plaintiff multiple times, with some incidents taking place at the famed Chelsea hotel in Manhattan. According to the complaint, the emotional effects of the abuse on JC included depression, humiliation and anxiety that “are of a permanent and lasting natures and have incapacitated plaintiff from attending her regular activities”.

[Anonymous No.18863923]

>>18863914
However... Here's a post from /mu/. I don't know if this is accurate or not, but if it is it seems to put serious doubts on the accusations:

" What she's accusing him of is literally impossible. Bob Dylan is one of the best-documented musicians in the world, she chose a time period in which he was on film, had tour members and friends around, and his fiance.

April Tour dates:
April 3, 1965 Berkely, California
April 9, 1965 Queen Elizabeth Theatre, Vancouver, BC
April 23, 1965 Portland, Oregon
April 24, 1965 The Arena, Seattle, WA
April 26, 1965 London Airport, London, ENG (press conference & Short interview)
April 27, 1965 Savoy Hotel, London, ENG (press conference & Interview by Jack DeManio)
April 30, 1965 City Hall, Sheffield, ENG

He was in Canada and the west coast while on tour in April 1965, in what breaks he had he spent his time with his then Fiance (later wife) Sara Lownds in California. She was there for that time period. He would also practice constantly with people.

May 1, 1965 Odeon, Liverpool, ENG
May 2, 1965 De Montford Hall, Leicester, ENG
May 5, 1965 Town Hall, Birmingham, ENG
May 6, 1965 Town Hall, Newcastle, ENG
May 7, 1965 Free Trade Hall, Manchester, ENG.

His fiance and many of his friends were with him through May. He fell sick and started recording again on June 1st, he was in a hospital in England and recorded for the BBC on June 1st after he recovered. His fiance, band members, camera crews, and manager were with him the entire time and he wouldn't have had the time to fly to New York and come back. It is physically impossible for him to do what was claimed. "

[Anonymous No.18863967]

don't care
didn't read
still the greatest songwriter of all time

[Anonymous No.18863978]

>>18863967
Agreed. I posted it just so that the thread would have its own rebuttal right on the first post.

[Anonymous No.18863998]

>>18863914
>2021 - 1965 = 56
Lol

[Anonymous No.18864022]

>>18863914
((("Bob" "Dylan")))

[Anonymous No.18864031]

>>18863914
oh for fuck's sake.
is there anyone who hasn't abused someone sexually at this point?

[Anonymous No.18864041]

>>18863914
woah wait what. my mom was 12 in '65...

[Anonymous No.18864042]

>>18864031
Me yet.

[Anonymous No.18864043]

>>18863914
JC is a japanese coomer term middle school girl. Holy fk metaphysics are real.

[Anonymous No.18864068]

>and groomed her over the course of six weeks in April and May 1965.

[Anonymous No.18864100]

Sneed?

[Anonymous No.18864110]

>>18863914
>groomed her
lmao. fuck this bullshit

[Anonymous No.18864113]

>>18864068
kek

[Anonymous No.18864145]

Not Lit.

being surrounded by other pedowood chuds doesn't provide a valid alibi, (((they))) always protect their own.

[Anonymous No.18864159]

>>18864145
>Not Lit.

He is a Nobel Prize winner in Literature and his lyrics have better imagery and more depth of thought than 90% of contemporary American poetry, including his fellow Nobel Prize winner Louise Gluck, and yes, I am familiar with her verse, and with much contemporary poetry.
Dylan is no Seamus Heaney, and in fact he's no Ginsberg, but some of his lyrics have very good lines.

[Anonymous No.18864181]

>>18864159
they dont work without the music though
and taking his whole cannon into account for every decent pair of lines theres a slew of insufferable cliches and banal repetition

[Anonymous No.18864192]

>>18864159
>Nobel Prize winner in Literature
only midwits take that seriously.

>but some of his lyrics have very good lines.
same could be said for a lot of/ mu/sicians doesn't mean you can discuss them on this board.

[Anonymous No.18864209]

>>18864181
I know it, but there's still more good stuff in it than there is in Louise Gluck.
Also, most of Shakespeare is recycled Petrarchism, which doesn't mean he wasn't a genius, but you need to hunt for the truly great stuff. Same thing with Dylan (not to compare his *quality* to Shakespeare's, of course).

>>18864192
How many musicians have a 500 page Christopher Ricks book written about them?
Bob Dylan *is* a very interesting user of the English language, whether you like it or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPLt-J2DcAk

[Anonymous No.18864295]

>>18863923
Believe all women, bigot.

[Anonymous No.18864301]

>>18863914
Can you even be tried for something you did 50 years ago? Isn't there a limit? It would be absurd and extremely prone to false flagging since you could just make an agreement with a bunch of people and make up all evidence to ruin that person.

[Anonymous No.18864318]

>>18864301
what if you killed someone 50 years ago

[Anonymous No.18864320]

12 year old girls are old enough to have sex without lasting trauma. Only people who disagree are labrys, dried up, bulldyke militant lesbian feminists who hate penises and are scared of men and would be best suited to being turned into fertilizer. Bob Dylan just became real based in my book.

[Anonymous No.18864336]

>>18864318
I think there's a time limit on how far in the future you are allowed to report a crime.

[Anonymous No.18864341]

>>18864209
his sonnets maybe, his plays are a different beast
aslo: you scour dylan you get blowing in the wind and a couple other maybe
there's a polemic argument going on right now over whether lear, hamlet, macbeth, twelfth night, tempest, richard iii or romeo and juliet is the greatest play (not of just his won works but of all time)

they are not the same

[Anonymous No.18864345]

>>18864320
>12 year old girls are old enough to have sex without lasting trauma.
So are you, with a BBC in the ass. Should I call based Jamal?

[Anonymous No.18864348]

>>18863914
>suing someone more than 50 years after the fact
holy hell, who the fucking shit cares

[Anonymous No.18864356]

>>18864301
>Isn't there a limit?
There is, but I'm not from USA and not a lawyer anyway

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_limitations#United_States

In my country (to my understanding) this time basically depends on the hypothetical jail time for that crime. DISCLAIMER: random numbers ahead.
If one thing can get you in jail for 3 years, after 10 years EVEN IF THE TRIAL IS ONGOING they can't put in you in jail anymore. This is a very handy law for corrupt politicians btw, because with a team of good lawyers you can almost extend the trial (3 degrees) indefinitely. Lots of technicalities, so don't expect me to answer any question you may have.

[Anonymous No.18864363]

>>18864336
yeah but that doesn't make sense. What if you killed a hobo or a person with no friends or family 50 years ago, and no one knew they were missing so the crime was unreported. You should have no punishment?

[Anonymous No.18864369]

>>18864318
>>18864336
To my understanding, murders are typically discovered soon enough, so it's not about reporting, it's about when they find the culprit.
If you killed someone 50+ years ago, chances are you are 75+ now, have cancer or dementia and are not fit to stand trial
I'm not a lawyer though

[Anonymous No.18864376]

>>18864363
I am not a lawyer but I think there's a difference between committing a murder 50 years ago and being found out as the culprit, and the actual living victim of your crime reporting you 50 years later. So a random hobo accusing you of attempting murder on him 50 years ago would be bullshit, yeah

[Anonymous No.18864390]

>>18864363
If you can prove it happened. If you can tell them where the body is and even better it has your DNA on it and matches your alibi for when they determine it happened, sure. With 50 year old sexual assault this is almost impossible, so any lady can come and say shit like this with impunity because there will always be some doubt if her theory is just “I don’t remember the exact dates and times but I saw him throughout April” especially if they don’t know what dead man Dylan was doing on those days

[Anonymous No.18864412]

Not /lit/.
Never was, never will be.
Go back to your containment board, /mu//tant.

[Anonymous No.18864415]

>>18864390
ignore that last part, I thought that nigga was dead

[Anonymous No.18864433]

>>18864341
>his sonnets maybe, his plays are a different beast

No, most of the verse in the plays is pure Petrarchist rhetoric, the poetry comes every now and then, and when it comes it's magnificent, but most of it is usual Renaissance rhetoric.
And there's no polemic about Romeo and Juliet being the greatest play of all-time. Maybe in Midwit Country. It's not even in Shakespeare's top 10.

>aslo: you scour dylan you get blowing in the wind and a couple other maybe

Blowing in the wind is shit. That's one of his worst lyrics, in fact. The good ones include Visions of Johanna, Stuck Inside the Mobile, Jokerman, Changing of the Guards, among others.

[Anonymous No.18864447]

>>18863914
How exactly does a 12 years old meet know and hang out with a rockstar? I mean, how is it possible?

[Anonymous No.18864454]

>>18864336
It's called a statute of limitations. But they can still get money out of him in court to make this go away.

[Anonymous No.18864576]

>jew touches kids

[Anonymous No.18864577]

>>18864576
Why do you have to focus on how he's a Jew? Huh? Why not just treat him as an individual? What's the big deal? What's the big idea? You some sort of fucking antisemite? Why are you so obsessed with Jews sweetie? Whoa where did that come from, here it comes lol, big surprise you're an antisemite, why is everything about Jews for you people lol? This is why I feel threatened every day, antisemitism is alive and well in the west. This is what Jews live with every day and if you ca

[Anonymous No.18864629]

>>18864577
A fellow Israel lover taken away by the evil ant yosemites? I kneel

[Anonymous No.18864667]

everyone whiteknighting the underage groupie slut, classic

[Anonymous No.18864674]

>>18864577
kys kike

[Anonymous No.18864929]

>>18864667
h-h'es a juice! He ain't having youn gals if I ain't

[Anonymous No.18865094]

More to the point that /lit/ should stop talking about him and start talking about Stefan Burnett instead.

[Anonymous No.18865208]

>>18863914
>I ONCE LOVED A WOMAN, A CHILD I’M TOLD
d-dylanbros…? what did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.18865830]

>>18864447
>How exactly does a 12 years old meet know and hang out with a rockstar? I mean, how is it possible?
The sixties were a magical time, flower child.
Look up David Bowie.

[Anonymous No.18865850]

>>18865830
>the sixties were a magical time

[Anonymous No.18865856]

>>18864447
groupies

[Anonymous No.18865862]

>>18864031
I have never interacted with a human female for longer than 3 minutes

[Anonymous No.18865870]

>>18864345
Not him but please do

[Anonymous No.18865976]

>>18864031
>is there anyone who hasn't abused someone sexually at this point?
incels, and look at how much they like them

[Anonymous No.18866015]

>>18863914
folk music is for gay hillbillies

[Anonymous No.18866069]

Not surprising considering the company he kept
https://youtu.be/MGxjIBEZvx0

Look who is in the background

[Anonymous No.18866088]

>>18863967
Leonard Cohen is the thinking man's songwriter

[Anonymous No.18866445]

>>18866088

Leonard Cohen is a bore whose poetry was so unremarkable, he had to set it to rote melodies and sell it to pretentious college kids who didn't know difference between good and bad because they studied relativism.

[Anonymous No.18866451]

>>18866445
Not a very comfy thing to say

[Anonymous No.18866452]

>>18866445
yeah he's basically just bob dylan 2.0

[Anonymous No.18866884]

>>18864433
>Blowing in the wind is shit


Lol

[Anonymous No.18866913]

>>18865830
>>18865856
At 12?
Didn't she have a mother?

[Anonymous No.18866921]

Watch and see a parade of hoes "speaking up" about Bob Dylan's sex abuse in order to get on the payout gravy train .

[Anonymous No.18866926]

>>18866069
Is that Ginzberg?
>>18866445
>>18866452
Absolutely filtered