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>Claims to be Dyonisian
>Doesn't even drink alcohol

>> No.18849546

It made him sick

>> No.18849640

>>18849512
Nietzsche was a very rational, self controlled, moral, and conscientious guy.

>> No.18849710

>>18849640
What a loser

>> No.18849724

>>18849710
He was a Last Man, the sort of person who knows how best to enjoy a happy life. They live longest after all.

>> No.18849727

>>18849640
Which is funny. Nietzsche preached immoralism but was actually a very nice guy, while Schopenhauer preached universal compassion but was actually an asshole. I still prefer Schopenhauer though desu.

>> No.18849767
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>>18849640
>>18849727
He knew that philosophers were projecting their inadequacies onto life because that's what he did. Nietzsche never gave a critique of another that he didn't first test internally.

>> No.18849775

>>18849767
plenty of animals experience humor
I really hate this faggot

>> No.18849788

>>18849775
Name those animals that experience humor like we do (bonus points if it is sapient)

>> No.18849791

>>18849788
My dog

>> No.18849797

>>18849791
Only a dog would laugh at your jokes

>> No.18849799

>>18849512
He did, it was just wine that made him sick, because migraines are triggered by the tannins contained in wine.

>> No.18849809

>>18849788
Well, covid19 is having the time of its life. It's the literal Sugar Sammy of viruses.

>> No.18849826

>>18849797
But I'm quite serious, anon.

>> No.18849851

>>18849775
That wasn't well known during his lifetime. Going by the herd animals that Europeans were more familiar with, he was correct. Herd animals don't laugh.

>> No.18850056

>>18849767
So it's 'I know you are but what am I?' Turned into an ontology.

>> No.18850157

>>18850056
>ontology
More like a method of psychoanalysis

>> No.18850190

>>18849851
Would you laugh if you were a herd animal?

>> No.18850287

>>18849512
Sounds pretty based.

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>>18849727
'Nietzsche preached immoralism'

this fucking board
He preached amoralism dumb retard nigger and he meant amoralism as in not adhering to conventional moralism but creating your own values out of a dyonisian-tragic disposition and strength

>> No.18850329

i fucking hate nietzsche so much

>> No.18850341

>>18849512
“There are two great European narcotics, alcohol and Christianity."

Nietzsche, “The Antichrist”

It was more than just sickness. He (correctly) thought that alcohol prevented us from facing our problems, and let us delude ourselves into living without improving our lives through the cope of these narcotics. I can’t say I disagree with him, as a former alcoholic christian.

>> No.18850747

>>18849512
>>18849640
>>18849727
>>18849767
We always preach what we're bad at. What makes a good philosopher is realizing it

>> No.18850762

>>18850329
Same he’s such a sickly faggot you can tell his entire philosophy was cope.

>> No.18850767

>>18850762
Every philosophy is a cope, Nietzsche just pointed it out

>> No.18850775

>>18850767
No, stop. Nietzsche's writings were tapping into his weaknesses and preaching them, like "here's the missing info, it was in me all along"

>> No.18850791

>>18850775
That wasn't an insult to philosophy before, you know. He wrote books' worth of analysis of other philosophies exposing how their logic rests on inner desires. All philosophers have desired something and it comes out in their philosophies, always.

>> No.18850835

>>18850791
Nietzsche was just a cynic towards systematic philosophy; he made his own gravedigger

>> No.18850844

>>18849512
There's a distinct difference between the consumption of alcohol to numb - to control oneself as is the case for many alcoholics and chronic drinkers and the consumption of spirit in the Dionysian sense for ecstasy, for absolute dissolution in the orgy and the frenzy of being completely shitfaced. The Greeks were aware of the necessity of the contrast between this frenzy and dissolution of self and that of order and logic and balanced them by having parties but not always getting fucked up.

>> No.18851542

>>18850298
He literally calls it "immoralism" himself, and that he considers the "immoral" man higher than the "moral."

>> No.18852021

>>18850762
My best friend got into drugs in highschool. He was brilliant, constantly reading, got into Nietzsche towards the end, slit his wrists, survived, then OD’d on heroin.
Besides him, I have not met anyone really into Nietzsche that I’ve respected; and he was living shamefully when he died...

>> No.18852064

>>18849727
Just because you don't have an objective, logical reason for being kind doesn't mean you can't be.

>> No.18852113

Nietzschean’s are self centered pseud assholes without fail.

>> No.18852459

>>18851542
i somehow doubt the anglo hating Nietzsche used the word “immoral” desu.
You are just relying on some utilitarian’s translation.

>> No.18852478

>>18852459
Read The Higher Man from Zarathustra

>> No.18852622

>>18849767
>>18849775
>>18849788
I'm not sure it works chronologically, but at least some observations were made contemporary to Neitzche that he ignored.

While the reports of laughter during play in nonhuman animals are scarce they have been reported anecdotally since before Charles Darwin wrote Expressions of Emotions in Man and animals.

And in modern times, there are many studies on animal laughter during rough and tumble play and when getting tickled.

Fox (1998) reports in his book, Concepts in ethology: animal behavior and bioethics says, “A bright-eyed direct look is often given during friendly approach, especially during play, and it is in this eye contact pattern, combined with what is termed the play face, that we again find certain analogies with human communication. During friendly approach, especially with the intention to play, canids open the mouth slightly and pull the lips back horizontally. They often pant, and the red fox vocalizes slightly at this time.” Fox goes on to say, “Van Hooff has described the same facial expression in chimpanzees, terming it the panting play face. At the same time the chimpanzee may vocalize a sound very much like laughter in man. We can say, therefore, that canids do have an ancestral, primitive antecedent of laughter as we know it Homo sapiens.”

>> No.18854159

>>18849512
>>18849640
Obviously he was trying to be the opposite of Wagner

>> No.18855024

>>18852113
No,they are people who actually read Nietzsche.

>> No.18855407

>>18850844
Wow this might be the least insightful and most retarded post I read today! Congrats brother you not only missed Ns point but you also don't even articulate the Deleuzian of counter-actualization well!

>> No.18855431

>>18855024
Ok pseud

>> No.18855664

>>18850341
Cringe

>> No.18855690

>>18850747
There's a word for that from somewhere...

>> No.18855703

>>18855690
Hypocrisy

>> No.18857056

>>18849512
Neet btfo

>> No.18858790

>>18855703
I was thinking confession.

>> No.18858845

Modern day Jews are more Dionysian than Christians and German anti-semites.

>> No.18858911
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because he was already on heavier stuff

>2) BVN-1870,103 - Letter to Carl from Gersdorff: 20/10/1870.
>After afflicting my body for several days with opium- and tannin-enemas and silvernitrate, the first danger was eliminated. After a week I was able to leave Naumburg, but I'm not healthy yet.

>NF-1882.1 [72] - posthum fragments July-August 1882.
>brightest consciousness and leaden heaviness and immobility after opium.

> BVN-1882,360 - Letter to Paul Rée and Lou Salomé: circa December 20, 1882.
>Tonight I will take so much Opium that I lose my mind: where is still a man one could worship! But I know you all through and through. Do not worry too much about the outbreaks of my megalomania or injured pride: and if one day I should take my life because of the the aforementioned affects, I wouldn't need to be pitied that much.

>To this, I think, sensible understanding of the situation I come after I have taken a tremendous dose of opium - from despair. But instead of losing my mind, it seems to come to me finally. By the way, I was really ill for weeks...

>> No.18858948

>>18850341
As a fellow former drunkard and christcuck, I fully agree