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Have you noticed that the Western World hasn't produced any ground breaking philosophy since around 1900, with a decline of even that great quality since around 1800-20?
This is a sign of the times of our greater decline.
You will NOT write anything that will be catalogued into history because you're a mere product of this declining age.
How sad.

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>> No.18847679

why are you posting MTG cards?
anyway
if you mean ANGLO philosophy, you might be right
but real European philosophy, that is CONTINENTAL philosophy had plenty of great authors
German, then French
maybe this time, Germans again
it's the continental ping-pong
while you anglos look at us and seethe

>> No.18847699

>>18847679
Name one good modern continental philosopher since 1900.

>> No.18847716

>>18847699
But you won't concede anyway, since you've already decided that no philosopher after 1900 is good.

>> No.18847721

>>18847716
But you won't concede anyway, since you won't post which philosopher you'd allow others to scrutinize.
Good job failure.

>> No.18847773

>>18847485
Name one worthwhile philosopher prior to Kant, Schopy, and Husserl? I can't think of a single one with anything truly insightful to say. Philosophy only got interesting with the birth of phenomenology and Neitzsche's analysis of moral genealogy. These developments allowed for the scrupulous honesty you see in Heidegger, Foucault, and Horkheimer

>> No.18847787

>>18847699
Heidegger, Baudrillard, Deleuze, Derrida, Sloterdijk

>> No.18847817

>>18847485
Lurk for 5 more years before posting again.
>Heidegger
>Barthes
>Baudrillard
>Strauss
>Bakhtin
>Foucault
>Wittgenstein
>Russell
>Sartre (his phenomenology work is the true gem of his corpus)
>Kripke
>Macintyre
>Taylor
>Deleuze
>Mcluhan
>etc.

>> No.18847827

>>18847817
this, except for *nglos

>> No.18847829

>>18847773
Anything that ignores human nature, subjective experience, the unconscious mind, base, superstructure, and totality is for children.

>> No.18847872

All innovative and original philosophy has ended with the french postmodernists, Lacan, Deleuze, Foucault, Derrida, Baudrillard were the last hard hitters. All of our current philosophers are just commentators of them. Agamben, Butler, Žižek, Badiou are still working in this paradigm, new object oriented ontologies and all sorts of antropocene and posthumanist thinkers bring nothing new conceptually-wise to the table, they just rehash same old theories in a new way to analyze "actual" problems. No, analytic philosophy is not philosophy, its just academic bureaucratic wankery.

The problem is that classical education of philosophy has ended exactly with the post WW2 shift from hierarchical education with a strict, even if arbitral, canon of thinkers to more democratic, social sciences and political problems oriented type of education. As always, biggest tensions create best results and postmodern thinkers were at the center of this intersection. Since then, the democratization, specialization and monetization of philosophy in academy ruined any chances of any original take.

>> No.18847972

Plenty of good philosophers after 1900 but the field did subdivide into subfields that don't talk to each other as much.

The problem for philosophy is that its purview keeps diminishing as new sciences are developed. It lost the natural sciences. Then it lost the social sciences. It lost examination of the self to psychology, cognitive science, and neuroscience. It lost the evaluation of language and meaning to linguistics and semiotics. I am aware that philosophers still work in those fields, but their work is more specialized.

People with the aptitude for philosophy get wedded to other fields these days. Fukayama is a political scientist instead of a political philosopher because those methods work better for substantiating his claims. Same goes for Dennett vis-a-vis neuroscience, although I guess he is still considered a philosopher, or Chalmers, or Grimm. Pinker could be considered a philosopher for the breadth of what he covers but he's a linguist by training and his actually decent works (How the Mind Works and the Blank Slate) are neuroscience and psychology heavy. Eco's semiotics would have been considered philosophy potentially, but Sasseur and Pierce carved out a new space.

Basically the field is bleeding out to other fields.

>> No.18848106

>>18847817
No one except Wittgenstein (literally just analyzing language) and Russell (literally just rehashing the history of philosophy and adding nothing new) are even worth mentioning.
What a crap list and someone on par with Kant hasn't happened since Nietzsche.

>> No.18848422

>>18847485
That's why we need to be revivalists, not sophists, We should not deny the gifts of our ancestors

>> No.18848677

>Wrong generation faggots? In my /lit/? It's more likely than you think

>> No.18848721

>>18847485
zizek killed ideology and philosophy
that's the point

>> No.18848743

>>18848677
there was never a right generation, it was never good now and it was never good then. the point is that there are great ideas that stood the test of time, and instead of diluting them we should pay them in due respect
>those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it

>> No.18850232

>>18847699
not that anon but: heidegger, sartre, gadamer, husserl

>> No.18850244

>>18847485
>hasn't produced any ground breaking philosophy since around 1900

Heidegger and Wittgenstein

>> No.18850309

>>18848106
What are you talking about? Russell is literally the weakest person in that list. You don't know who the rest are, do you? I bet the only thing you know about Russell is his pop-philosophy book.

>> No.18850353

>>18847679
We have our own shit going on Eurogaf

>> No.18850890

Bro.... JP2 and Ratzinger are literally contemporary

>> No.18850900

>>18847485
kys nihilist

>> No.18851721

>>18847972
>It lost the natural sciences. Then it lost the social sciences.
Metaphysics and Philosophy of Science still define what Science even is and is not. Natural sciences apply metaphysics and epistemology from philosophy to particular concerns, though the growing religion of Scientism has been really obnoxious for the last couple decades.
The Social "Sciences" are sophistic jokes that presupposed Praxeology and Philosophical Anthropology that suits the current political powers, not the other way around, i.e. it is all made-up bullshit.
Honestly you are so-so poisoned by the Anglo taint you need to bleach your brain with some good ol' Greeks once more. I had to do the same recently to wash away the French paedomodernism, and still have to apply Platonic baths to this day after having to trudge through Post-Marxist and Ecobullshit works at the Uni.

>> No.18851729

“Philosophy has never been so rigorous, so productive of clarity, so intellectually illuminating, as since the revolution in method which is associated above all with the name of Wittgenstein.”
--Alasdair Macintyre

>> No.18852092

>>18847972
A lot of text from someone who has no idea what he's talking about. The arrogance is astounding.

>> No.18852170

>>18847485
I would say "since 1991". really. As far as political philosophy or social criticism goes, the fall of the USSR basically discredited the Communist-ish tradition that a lot of philosophers worked within, and right-wing thought was understood to be evil after WW2. The extreme successes of natural science in the 20th Century also leads one to question the usefulness of speculative metaphysics etc.

>> No.18852179

Seriously modern philosophy produce nothing and have no interest. I never encountered someone having good thoughts because of modern philosophers, never.

>> No.18852217

>>18852179
i remember watching this youtuber almost a decade ago who occasionally made philosophy videos, and he never ever mentioned any of the greeks, not surprising that he was a total brainlet and had almost no insights