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How does everyone read so fast? Everyone is reading like 40-60 pages an hour while I can only do 20. 10-15 for really hard books.

>> No.18829995

>>18829981
Read more!

>> No.18830001

>>18829981
A lot of people don't understand that reading is a skill; you gotta practice it to get better at it, fren

>> No.18830458

>>18829981
It depends on the book you're reading. Reading Dostoevsky with it's run on sentences while puzzling over the interesting and thought provoking arguments the author creates is going to take a bit more time for you to digest than reading the alchemist. The harder a book is to digest, the better it is for you. It's literally like eating fast food compared to healthy food, fast food is absorbed more quickly by your body but it has less of the nutrients your body needs. A good book digests slowly, and if you re-read it you may find yourself discovering more than you did on your first read through. It's exercise for your mind because you're actually thinking about and analyzing each passage, rather than just quickly scanning through a paragraph and being unable to recollect what you just read.

>> No.18830470

>>18830458
I'm not talking about YA shit I mean people who can read 60 pages an hour of actual lit and philosophy

>> No.18830485

>>18830458
Forgot to mention, read how to read a book. There's a chapter where the author literally teaches you how to increase your reading speed to an incredible degree, which is actually a common trick hopeful college students use to answer questions more quickly on exams like the SAT, and which companies like kumon charge parents millions each year to get ahead of the curve.

>> No.18830578

>>18829981
Don't try to force yourself, speed reading is bad for retention. Take your time and soak in the details.

>> No.18830641

Comprehension is more important than speed. Focus on remembering what you have read.

>> No.18830704

>>18829981
Reading is useless, go live life instead

>> No.18830846

>>18829981


THEY DO NOT READ: THEY SKIM.

>> No.18830872

>>18830704
Based retard

>> No.18831331

>>18830458
>Reading Dostoevsky
Try Hegel of Marx volume 3.

>> No.18832194

>>18830470
I just read fast.

>> No.18832571

>>18830470
they're full of shit. they're skimming

>> No.18832577

>>18830470
Some actual lit is fairly easy to read

>> No.18832588

>>18829981
Reading speed goes from 100 wpm to 500 wpm depending on how trained you are. A normal page is 500 words, so if you max it out you read comfortably at 60 pages per hour. That takes years of mild to heavy, but most importantly frequent reading.
If you start skimming you can just about double your speed, at least for an easy text.
The problem is you will be limited by the difficutly of the text and the ideas contained within. Nobody starts real lit at 60 pages an hour.
You get faster the more familiar you get with the author tho. You add his active vocabulary to your passive one, you get familiar with the way he structures his sentences, you understand the core of his ideas. I imagine one might reach 60 pages an hour on the last few pages of a philosophy book, when you basically got what he is talking about, but sure as hell not at the start.

>> No.18832596

>>18829981
Write notes so you don't have to re-read certain sections

>> No.18832609

>>18829981
Novels and poetry are meant to be read at a speaking pace. They're there for the reading, not to be accumulated.

>> No.18832837

>>18830470
People lie on the internet anon.

>> No.18832857

>>18832571
this, a standard assignment is like 30 pages but you're expected to spend like 2-3 hours on them

>> No.18833050

>>18829981
It's okay OP. It's not a race

>> No.18833060

>>18829981
I used to only be able to read 20 pages in an hour but after reading for half a year it’s gone up to 50. I’m really not anybody special. You can do it anon, just keep reading!

>> No.18833244

>>18831331
"I read so fast and I read so complicated, hard-to-read books, wow dostojevsky is really simple haha"

It's sad that you are so low you feel the need to be like this on an anonymous basketweaving forum

>> No.18833791

>>18829981
i'm not a particularly fast reader, i did that wmp test and got placed in the "wow good job bud" category but the pressure of the test itself made me put in 30% more effort at least, so i couldn't sustain that pace for 2+ hours without mental fatigue probably.

for me, internally, i have two reading modes kindof.
in mode 1, i mentally pronounce every word in a sentence and hear it in my head.
in mode 2, i experience reading more like a thought or something. it's quieter, definitely cant hear every word in my head, more like a sustained mumble

mode 2 is way faster, and when i'm focused i don't miss much, but if there is a sentence or paragraph that i don't understand i have to switch to mode 1 to make sense of it

also, i find it hard to start reading in mode 2.
usually i have to read in mode 1 for ten minutes or so, and then i can consciously switch to mode 2

get better by reading more.
measure your page count for a week, then keep reading often for a month and measure again. you will be better.

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>>18830470
>people who can read 60 pages an hour of actual lit and philosophy

>and actually comprehend it

Very rare. That ability is like ph.d level or higher. Assuming they are not already familiar with the ideas. In philosophy in particular it can take the human mind weeks to really grasp a single concept enough to be able to move on to higher levels. If you don't put the work in on the fundamentals you never really comprehend the roots of the ideas. To read 60 pages of philosophy in an hour and comprehend it would be possible, but only if one was already familiar with the style of the author and the mode of argument, as well as the ideas being presented. And if it's analytical philosophy? More like 2-5 pages an hour.

>> No.18833887

I think the average reader just kind of blazes by and only technically reads the words, they don't really process it. That's why there's such a market for things like sparknotes.

>> No.18833898

>>18833244
Dostoyevsky is really simple and really bad.

>> No.18833924

Because you're on 4chan didnt you know everyone is a genius big dick millionaire on this site?
everyone of /fit/ squats 4 plates
everyone on /biz/ is a millionaire
everyone on /g/ is a master programmer who can build kernels on his own
everyone on /lit/ is a phd that reads 7 hard philosophy books a week
everyone on /sci/ is a mensa certified genius

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for me? well
i get BOTH the AUDIO-BOOK and a PHYSICAL COPY of a book, albeit a DIFFERENT translation
then i play the audiobook at 1.5 or 2X SPEED while reading my copy
as im making up for the differences in my head i understand it better

>> No.18833974

There is a spectrum of techniques from speed reading to close reading.
There is a spectrum of book difficulty from easy to hard (grammatical complexity).
There is a spectrum of book difficulty from easy to hard (conceptual abstraction).
There is a spectrum of cognitive ability from retard to genius.

Both your speed and retention rate with any given book is determined by this matrix of factors

Good luck bros. Some of us will make it quickly. Some will make it slowly. Some will make it but not remember it. And some will not make it at all

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>>18833924
But most of the posts are pity shit (the feds and the social media channels popularized this). The self aggrandizing posters are lost to time.

>> No.18834633

>>18829981
don't worry about it. build vocabulary as needed; read often.

>> No.18835129

>>18829981
I really don't care, I'm only trying to focus on the content and counting book pages seems irrelevant to me, even though many have said that my reading speed is above average, but I guess that it is the result of my perseverance

>> No.18836631

>>18830872
Based on what?

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>>18829981
Literally read more. But as long as you enjoy what you are reading, it really doesn't matter what speed you are. Start with Novellas(between 5000 and 50,000 words with an average of 30,000) and short stories(between 1000-10,000 words) first to get you into the zone and reading faster. The prospect of 500-1200+ page books is daunting if you've not done it in such a long time.

Also find a private space that's quiet and do some reading there.
Good luck mate, you'll get there!
>>18832596
Also this.
I do it for key plot moments that may have happened hundreds of pages back.
Wheel of Time series is one of those where I have at least 30 notebook pages dedicated to each and drawing out family trees and key events with characters.

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>>18833974
>Some will make it but not remember it.
I hate this. It's such a bummer.

>> No.18836968

>>18829981
Take your time anon

>> No.18837688

>>18829981
There’s no need to force yourself to read quickly, it’s better to read slowly and understand what you are reading then to read quickly and not understand.

>> No.18837710

people are lying or not reading correctly. do you king. very, very low percentage actually read that quickly and retain the information.