/sffg/ - Science fiction and Fantasy general

[Anonymous No.18826123]

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[Anonymous No.18826145]

>>18826123
Bakker

[Anonymous No.18826346]

What are some books featuring absolutely no female characters whatsoever? Getting real tired of women.

[Anonymous No.18826362]

>>18826346
Incel detected

[Anonymous No.18826365]

>>18826362
If you're actively and intentionally avoiding females I'm pretty sure that disqualifies you from being an incel by definition. It's in the name, "involuntary".

[Anonymous No.18826381]

How would Nayu have turned out if he'd been able to have a happy gay relationship with his boyfriend? That was cute at the end when it was revealed that he was really just mad at Moenghus for leaving him :3

[Anonymous No.18826388]

Any good books where ageing has been conquered?

[Anonymous No.18826396]

>>18826388
Unironically Bakker, there is certain group in TSA setting that conquered aging.

[Anonymous No.18826428]

>>18826396
the consult never conquered aging, the human members of the consult still died of old age just they had much lengthened lifespans, even the inchoroi were becoming decrepit with age. Shaeoneara is the only exception as far as i know and he might have been body swapping to extend his life anyway

might be wrong tho

[Anonymous No.18826431]

>>18826428
Nonmen

[Anonymous No.18826440]

>>18826388
Also to contribute a bit myself there is pseudo-immortality in the Takeshi Kovacs trilogy but that's a bit of a different mechanism to what I'm thinking of.

>>18826396
I'll look into it, thanks Anon.

[Anonymous No.18826663]

I feel constantly sleepy and tired and can't focus on reading, FML.

[Anonymous No.18826664]

>>18826663
Go to bed

[Anonymous No.18826676]

>>18826365
Free will is an illusion, you are an incel

[Anonymous No.18826680]

>>18826663
i just woke up

[Anonymous No.18826687]

Beware of Chicken is less annoyingly satirical than I expected but I think it would be better as a proper cultivation farming story instead of mundane farming + qi.

[Anonymous No.18826751]

>tfw when reading my own writing

I know I need to do this to develop but fuck me it's miserable seeing how shit I am and how much I need to improve. Torn between trying to finish the first draft just for the practice or choosing to throw the whole thing out and start again.

[Anonymous No.18826820]

>>18826687
That sounds like a Buckethead album.

[Anonymous No.18826841]

the book I've found to come closest to the same feeling as dark souls was honestly Hyperion because of how eventful it was, with weird dreamy buildings, lands, creatures and ships. Moving all over the place but without too many characters and the prose was nice and readable while having a mystery to it.
There has to be more like this?

[Anonymous No.18826849]

>>18826346
women are just people anon

[Anonymous No.18826860]

>>18826346
Please lost some female characters that ruined their books for you

[Anonymous No.18826865]

>>18826849
>women are just people anon
That's a pretty daring claim, anon

[Anonymous No.18826873]

Are there any cultivation webnovels where the characters aren't completely souless bugmen fighting other completely souless bugmen over the mystic ping pong fruit of super immortality or whatever? I like the idea of cultivation and an eastern fantasy setting. Just having that with some basic character development and an okay narrative arc would be a big improvement.

[Anonymous No.18826883]

>>18826865
they are, modern culture just makes some ignorant assholes just like it does with some men.

[Anonymous No.18826918]

>>18826849
Men were created in the image of God, but women were created from the rib of man. Therefore women are a derivative creation, an image of an image, which explains their deficiencies in virtue and reason. Frankly, it's surprising that we can even breed with them.

[Anonymous No.18826944]

>>18826918
you're talking beyond concepts. We have little idea of where we come from and the answer likely doesn't lie in some random jewish desert story.

[Anonymous No.18826970]

>>18826944
>random jewish desert story.
Appeal to emotion, standard woman-'logic'. Spare me your ignorant heathenry.

[Anonymous No.18826978]

>>18826918
nice bait but I literally suck balls and even I'm not this gay. whew

[Anonymous No.18826980]

>>18826918
even /x/ aren't this deluded.

[Anonymous No.18827020]

>For me? It's R Scott Bakker. Intelligent, Nihilistic and with a Wicked Sense of Humor.

[Anonymous No.18827031]

>>18826918
>men literally a made in image of something
>but totally not a derivative copy lol

[Anonymous No.18827038]

>>18826918
Based and factual

[Anonymous No.18827044]

>>18826918
this is like shitting on someone in 54th place when you landed in 53rd

[Anonymous No.18827095]

>And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
Worst mistakes of history #1

[Anonymous No.18827184]

>>18826860
not him but second and third books of the quantumm thief triology, i finished them the other day

[Anonymous No.18827185]

>>18825066
I think Mance writing the Pink Letter and Jon being Robb's heir would have some really interesting ramifications for the story in the north.

[Anonymous No.18827189]

>>18826346
can't think of any, the closer you will get is a book where all the characters are robots or something

[Anonymous No.18827225]

do the metro books follow a single character or is it a clusterfuck?
Are they enjoyable?

[Anonymous No.18827233]

>>18827225
>2033 and 2035
enjoyable and follow the same character, a bit too similar to each other in structure but generally 2033 was good, unique and enjoyable and 2035 is a good wrap up
>2034
weird self indulgent melodramatic crap, featuring a minor character from the first book

[Anonymous No.18827248]

>>18826123
>Book Club
Seveneves, August 15
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22816087-seveneves

[Anonymous No.18827295]

>>18826346
Good start to the thread
I'd read historical Chinese epics. Romance of the Three Kingdoms, Brigands of the Water March, Journey to the West and so.
It is not like they have no female characters, but women barely matter in them.

Nice quote from 3 Kingdoms:


兄弟如手足,妻子如衣服。衣服破,尚可縫; 手足斷,安可續?」

"Brothers are like limbs, wives and children are like clothing. Torn clothing can be repaired; how can broken limbs be mended?"

With how much supernatural stuff the Chinese have in their epics it hits the same craving as Fantasy for me.

[Anonymous No.18827324]

>>18826346
The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula Le Guin

[Anonymous No.18827326]

>>18827295
that's a quote about blood brothers by the way

[Anonymous No.18827340]

>>18827185
>Mance writing the Pink Letter
my most likely theory about it, or at least that he immediately sided with the boltons. people forget that mance pretty much despises jon snow.
>Jon being Robb's heir
considering that jon became king of north in the show, if this was based on what they were told about the books at all it seems quite likely.

[Anonymous No.18827361]

>>18827248
No one follows your club. You are alone.

[Anonymous No.18827405]

>>18827340
Yeah, I guess it's a pretty likely scenario. Makes it seem a bit less interesting.

Here's my crackpot theory: The first (or one of the first) chapters on the wall in TWOW will be from Ghost's perspective. Not only would it be unexpected and cool, it would tie into the warging and hint at the resurrection

[Anonymous No.18827483]

>>18824317
You mean sorwel.

[Anonymous No.18827517]

Any good recent sci-fi books written by men and don't feature cringe sjw plots?

[Anonymous No.18827530]

>>18827517
Wolfe

[Anonymous No.18827538]

>>18827517
How recent are we talking

[Anonymous No.18827552]

>>18827538
nothing before 2000s

[Anonymous No.18827557]

>>18825157
He left a lot of threads open because he didn’t finish the series, you dumbass. He had more books planned. And if he can’t publish them for whatever reason, that’s an entire different topic altogether.

[Anonymous No.18827582]

>>18827552
why are you some sort of zoomerfag?

[Anonymous No.18827587]

So what injured Balerion when he flew to Valryia? So far it is one of the mos interesting sections of Fire and Blood

[Anonymous No.18827596]

>>18827582
Not him but I'd be interested to know what's good coming out these days

[Anonymous No.18827628]

>>18827517
Three Body Problem
The Dark Forest
Death's End

[Anonymous No.18827654]

>>18827517
chinese stuff obviously

[Anonymous No.18827680]

>>18827654
Ching chong ping pong machine translations, fucked prose and stunted imagination on chinks no thanks

[Anonymous No.18827699]

>>18827680
Oh you're racist and dumb.
Never mind then. Just go play some cod or something instead.

[Anonymous No.18827708]

>>18827699
That was someone else responding. I guess i'll try three body problem.

[Anonymous No.18827720]

>>18827699
>Oh you're racist and dumb.
>Never mind then. Just go play some cod or something instead.

[Anonymous No.18827853]

Any sci-fi like pic-rel? In that two characters who are initially opposed come to work together.

[Anonymous No.18827892]

>>18827853
Bakker

[Anonymous No.18828023]

>/lit/ psyops me into reading Bakker
>get to the sorcerer part
>"The great Mufasaborata of nation Doodoodeedee of Wubulababooba is about to declare war on schools of Zigzagus and Azizmuhhammadpajeet"
>"you can't mean..."
>"Yes, I mean in. All nations of Vnueiznbnfnhchxbd are in danger of Roombachungus and his followers under Falafel the Third...second Apocalypse"
>this goes on for like 10 pages
Does this shit make sense later? Caude for now I may as well read Finnegan's Wake

[Anonymous No.18828036]

>>18828023
Its okay to be brainlet, but you should not boast about it. Not everything will be clear the first time you read it.

[Anonymous No.18828062]

>>18828023
>namefiltered
sounds like you were filtered within the first couple chapters; sorry anon. many such cases

[Anonymous No.18828071]

>the names are what bother me, not the gay scat rape.

[Anonymous No.18828081]

>18828071
here comes scatfag again. this nigga has no life does he? report and hide, do not engage, do not give (You)s

[Anonymous No.18828088]

>>18827596
The answer is nothing.

[Anonymous No.18828125]

>>18827517
Almost all of them.

[Anonymous No.18828168]

>>18828023
>Does this shit make sense later?
Yes, although I still might not remember what some of less mentioned names stand for after finishing everything. I can appreciate effort he pots into making detailed world but sometimes there is too much of it, although it's not a significant problem.

[Anonymous No.18828169]

>>18827892
hang all shitposters

[Anonymous No.18828308]

>>18828023
He does throw a lot at you right at the start, I also was just psyoped into reading it and enjoying it so far (now 1/3rd through). I think you have have to tune out some of the minor city state names that are thrown around for flavor and learn who the 5 or so big players are. Thinking back on the chapters though I have to admit he introduced a ton of world building efficiently in a very short space, can't think of what could be added/removed without messing up the flow.

[Anonymous No.18828352]

So what are your guys thoughts on the Three Body trilogy? I just read them, I normally don't read scifi/fantasy so I wanted to read something different and the series is well regarded. As a broad critique of the trilogy I don't think books 2 and 3 ever recapture the intrigue of the first and I think the shift away, in the later half of Dark Forest and onward, from a first contact between two species to a broader focus on the state of nature between alien civilizations was a mistake. The first half of 2 is almost unreadable though, the Wallfacer stuff and Luo Jis fantasy gf was just bad. And Cheng Xin was a pretty lousy protagonist for 3 and the relationship between her and Tianming was eyerolling. All that being said though there was some interesting scifi concepts that I hadn't seen before.

[Anonymous No.18828374]

Fuck E William Brown
Nothing 2021

[Anonymous No.18828387]

>>18828352
its shit

>>18828374
based

>>18828308
based

[Anonymous No.18828423]

I am going to write an extremely reactionary Fantasy novel.

I will pick up where Goodkind left us.

I have no idea how I will get such a novel published, but make it I shall.

[Anonymous No.18828467]

>>18828423
based

[Anonymous No.18828524]

>>18828352
You shouldn’t focus too much on the protagonists. They are mere tools for Cixin ideas. And the books are phenomenal for that. Cixin has great concepts and explores them in depth. It was really refreshing reading this after a few lackluster scifi years.
also watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QYwGIdYm2w

In any case, current year sffg is shit.
Just skim through a thread every couple of months and find a better place to discuss books. The chance of someone posting something worthwhile here or starting a discussion is almost zero at this point.

[Anonymous No.18828620]

>>18826381
>HOT SEED

[Anonymous No.18828638]

>>18828352
The Dark Forest is probably my favorite Sci Fi book ever. The ballooning of the scope of the series feels very intentional, and I believe it's one of the reasons it's so well regarded. This could be interpreted as following the exponential growth and development of technology and science we're seeing today- it's one of the foundations of Dark Forest Theory after all.

The first half of the book can definitely feel slow, if a plot is what you're looking for. As the other anon said, it's all about the ideas. It's a (relatively optimistic) take on how the world would respond to aliens, not about the alien invasion itself. The book presents nuclear kamikaze swarms, consensual thought control, and solar system wide self destruction as legitimate military strategies without blinking an eye, even going so far as to justify them.

After the time skip, the series immediately switches from science based thriller to classic-styled space opera. Maybe it's up to taste, I liked it.

You probably wouldn't be interested, but The Redemption of Time is a piece of published fanfic following Death's End. It somehow managed to dwarf the growth of the scale of the series from book 1 to 3 in just a shot novel. It's cool and creative, but not quite up to par with the originals

[Anonymous No.18828737]

>>18826362
>>18826676

[Anonymous No.18828814]

So I read pic related on recommendation from another Anon here, and it was alright. Seems like someone played Castlevania and wanted to write a book set in a comically huge video game castle, and actually had the imagination and writing chops to pull it off well. The plot is a White Wolf style personal tragedy / coming of age story, which Shepard seems to understand well enough, but didn't have the will to execute with conviction. Your protagonist is an incompetent, privileged shit who judges everyone constantly but never suffers for it, and ultimately succeeds because nepotism.

There's a whodunnit subplot and a romance subplot, but they're both pretty shit. The whodunnit is a Scooby Doo mystery wherein the author never tips his hand and you follow the investigation on rails until one of the characters introduced at the beginning is arbitrarily unmasked as the villain. The romance is entirely based on infatuation that happens because the author says it does, and goes into unnecessary details about consensual sex in the missionary position. Which is just dirty and humiliating for everyone involved.

Overall 2.5*: Arguably better than LKH. Recommended for anyone with vampire autism.

[Anonymous No.18828884]

>>18828524
>>18828638
I guess we have a fundamentally different approach to fiction. I put characters and their actions above all but I can see why scifi/fantasy fans like world building more. I probably am being a bit harsh on the series and I think the way Liu portrays humanity in general throughout the various periods, vacillating between complacency/safety and a desire to expand their horizons even if it's more dangerous, to reflect a good understanding of human nature. I'll agree that the thing he does best is present new concepts and explores them well, whether it's for 10 pages or 50.

>You probably wouldn't be interested, but The Redemption of Time is a piece of published fanfic following Death's End. It somehow managed to dwarf the growth of the scale of the series from book 1 to 3 in just a shot novel. It's cool and creative, but not quite up to par with the originals

Ya I was debating reading that, think I'll take a break and come to it later

[Anonymous No.18828921]

>>18828884
>I put characters and their actions above all
If that's the case then a lot of non-modern sci fi probably isn't for you. The three body trilogy is very reminiscent of classic sci fi in that sense.

[Anonymous No.18828930]

Are Gnomes cool to read about?

[Anonymous No.18829124]

>>18828930
Gno.

[Anonymous No.18829133]

>>18829124
.mes

[Anonymous No.18829157]

Is Bakker a Muslim lover?

[Anonymous No.18829207]

Any sf/f recs for books to read whilst I consume potato crisps from my collection of Pringles © cans?

[Anonymous No.18829219]

>>18829157
Fane (PBUH) was right about everything

[Anonymous No.18829287]

>>18829207
if you touch a book after grabbing a greasy potato chip i will fucking murder you

[Anonymous No.18829326]

>>18829287
Don't worry they are not my books, I borrow them from the library or friends.

[Anonymous No.18829359]

Reading There are Doors by Gene Wolfe and I must say, it's pretty fucking good

[Anonymous No.18829493]

Are there any sf/f authors on par with Gene Wolfe, Bakker or Stephen Baxter?

[Anonymous No.18829510]

>>18827361
seethe more

[Anonymous No.18829561]

>>18829493
What, so pseudo intellectual midwit pseuds who appeal to edgelord zoomers?

[Anonymous No.18829570]

Is Foundation worth reading? Asimov always seemed dry to me.

[Anonymous No.18829573]

>>18829561

[Anonymous No.18829574]

>>18829157
*Scat Lover

[Anonymous No.18829599]

>>18829570
Personally I found it super interesting in concept but yea pretty dry in execution after the attention grabbing beginning.

>>18829359
What's it about generally? Haven't heard that one discussed before.

[Anonymous No.18829601]

>>18829570
The first book is short. You'll know pretty quickly if you want to read the rest.

[Anonymous No.18829615]

what is with all the scatology talk lately?

[Anonymous No.18829617]

>>18829615
Just some bakkerfags. Ignore them.

[Anonymous No.18829643]

>>18829615
get filtered by the Bakker, Scat is based

[Anonymous No.18829655]

>>18829615
This (>>18829617) brainlet can’t cope that he got filtered by Bakker. He admitted as much in the previous posts.

[Anonymous No.18829667]

>>18829655
>This (>>18829617) brainlet can’t cope that he got filtered by Bakker. He admitted as much in the previous posts.

[Anonymous No.18829673]

>>18829655
yeah he just can't handle the RAPE ACTION and Bakker philosophy.

[Anonymous No.18829677]

imagine getting baited into reading bakker
looooooooooooooooooooooooooool

[Anonymous No.18829688]

>>18829493
Zelazny is superior to them all

[Anonymous No.18829698]

>>18829655
I thought as much. There isn’t even any scat scene, only a dirty anal cock. Free publicity I guess.

[Anonymous No.18829705]

>>18829599
It's difficult to explain, as your understanding of the world and what's really going on will evolve over the course of the book. Basically it's about a guy, who may or may not be completely insane searching for a girl (goddess?) From a parallel dimension

[Anonymous No.18829710]

>>18826123

So much highly regarded stuff from the 80s and 90s feels exceptionally dated today.

[Anonymous No.18829713]

>>18829698
This is Bakker’s General, one way or another. And it will continue to be.

[Anonymous No.18829727]

>>18829698
>only a dirty anal cock

[Anonymous No.18829749]

I’ve never read Bakker, but judging by the low quality anti-Bakker shit-posting I’ve seen here, I am tempted to do so. What can I expect?

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.18829764]

>>18826123
Heretics of Dune, Dune #5 - Frank Herbert (1984)

This was the first book of an unfinished trilogy. Heretics rehashes Dune and adds new elements. The characters and power dynamics take on new names, though they are still the same roles. The original Dune was published in 1965, almost 20 years prior. From 1977 to 1983, the Star Wars trilogy was released, the last of which was released the year prior to the publication of Heretics. This made for a strange read as it's clear that this was meant to be a commercial work hoping to gain from the popularity of Star Wars, though at the same time it's a rejection as well. This can be seen in-text: "Here's a three P-O," they said meaning such a person surrounded himself with cheap copies made from declassee substances. Herbert later writes that "It is built of materials that will last much longer still" which is followed by "My objections don't matter." This must've been troublesome for everyone involved. It was also a troubling time for Herbert, as his wife died the year this was published and he'd die in two years.

Heretics is much more action and adventure oriented than prior books. The philosophy is still there, though it's a different sort. Heretics is by far the harshest on religion, making a mockery of any and every sort consistently and constantly. The adversaries the characters face are disappointing caricatures, especially the Tleilaxu. Heretics happens long after the fourth book, so I wonder how much it bothers people that the entire cast changes so much so often. I didn't care much, but I know a lot of people become very attached to characters and may not be able or willing to form an emotional connection with new ones. I'd say this is an ensemble rather than a single character dominating the narrative, as there are number of viewpoints presented and they all matter.

"Unabashed" sums up the book. There are many outright assertions and blunt statements of opinion that seem out of place. I wrote in my previous Dune review that "I believe how much we enjoy anything is often a matter of how willing we are to overlook its flaws." Unfortunately, the flaws exceeded how much I was able to overlook. There was far too much reliance on handwaving about everything in general. The result was suitable, but it made it feel too arbitrary. The sex scenes are meant to show how powerful eros is, but when there's a literal female sex cult that enslaves any man after a single time, only to have another a male character unlock his true sex potential and make one of them cry out they can't possibly lose to a penis, and because he's so virile, she's immediately impregnated makes it difficult to take any of it seriously. The treatment of women by the crypto-Islamic culture is far more horrific, though far less detailed, than anything shown by The Handmaid's Tale, which was published the following year.

My expectations may now be for suitable for Chapterhouse: Dune.
Rating: 3/5

[Anonymous No.18829853]

>>18829764
You kinda hit the nail on the head. Heretics and Chapterhouse are only really for Dune enthusiasts, they're not really worth it on their own merits. I am really sad that Herbert died before he could finish the books, since I liked the cliffhanger. I'm not reading anything his son wrote, and you probably shouldn't either if you respect Frank's legacy.

[Anonymous No.18830050]

>>18829749
B grade fantasy novels with some interesting characters. I only read the first 3 myself.

[Anonymous No.18830335]

>>18825848
Yes, no.

[Anonymous No.18830343]

>>18826346
Warhammer 40k shit where it focuses on the spess mahrines

[Anonymous No.18830415]

>>18826346
based
>>18826362
filtered

[Anonymous No.18830432]

>>18829561
Uhhhh, no?

[Anonymous No.18830552]

>>18829749
I'm this anon
>>18828308
I was in the same boat, picked it up out of curiosity figuring at least half the shilling was genuine. Overall I'm really enjoying it but I can see why some might bounce off the series. I think the popularity on here is partly due to there being a lot of wild shit in it so it's good meme fodder - it kind of gives me Game of Thrones + Lovecraft vibes but blessedly free of the normie taint.

>>18829705
>a guy, who may or may not be completely insane searching for a girl (goddess?) From a parallel dimension
There should be a drinking game when reading Wolfe to chug every time the narrator is unreliable, the main characters are involved in a play, or an almost completely independent short story spontaneously starts in the middle of a book.

[Anonymous No.18830559]

>reading Beware of Chicken
>annoying monkey boy get shipteased with Xiulan and goes to the tournament with her because he suddenly is a passable fighter
>MC going to stay home
Annoying plot development.

[Anonymous No.18830818]

>>18826873
Cultivating is fighting against heaven and man to seize a trace of luck
It’s not all fun and games

[Anonymous No.18830850]

>>18826873
Heavenly Jewel Change might qualify, I guess. Martial World was a bit more balanced, too, at least up to the point where I lost interest. I find its cultivation system and auxiliary mechanics, like crafting, formations and so on, quite crisply executed, too.

[Anonymous No.18830907]

>read Old Man's War
>prose is written with the same awful reddit snark as Ready Player One
>first I did this
>then I did this
>and THEN I did this
>dialogue is ALL QUIPS
>stop bothering to remember the names of characters because Alan, John, whatever the fuck all act exactly the same
Holy shit this is horrible.

[Anonymous No.18830941]

I never read Bakker but judging by the hot gay anal scenes I've seen here, I am tempted to do so.

[Anonymous No.18830955]

>>18830907
Here's a trick to learn if a book is going to be awful or not before you even read the first page: visit the author's twitter. If it's full of woke tranny faggot jigaboo garbage then you know it's going to be shit.

[Anonymous No.18830981]

>>18830955
>If it's full of woke tranny faggot jigaboo garbage then you know it's going to be shit.

[Anonymous No.18831002]

26 percent through the Bakker book. Not one rape. You guys are fuckin memers. Also does this retard have to have 8 fucking names for each religion it's main city it's people it's school. God damn and they all start with A or F. Good so far but but spend more time in the appendix than reading the book.

[Anonymous No.18831013]

>>18831002
>26 percent through the Bakker book
wait till you get to the second book, dirty anal scene

[Anonymous No.18831069]

>>18830981
>>If it's full of woke tranny faggot jigaboo garbage then you know it's going to be shit.

[Anonymous No.18831085]

>>18831069
>>>If it's full of woke tranny faggot jigaboo garbage then you know it's going to be shit.

[Anonymous No.18831093]

>>18831013
*wakes up, after blacking out in in an uncontrollable fury*
>Huh, why is there shit on my dick?

[Anonymous No.18831107]

>>18831085
>>>>If it's full of woke tranny faggot jigaboo garbage then you know it's going to be shit.

[Anonymous No.18831155]

>>18830955
>>18830907
Just checked his twitter and it's bad. "Y'all better be supporting vaccine mandates!" tier bad.

Sorry if you're the anon I recommended it to the other day, I remember reading Old Man's War (just the first book) years ago and enjoying it but maybe I was a pleb back then.

[Anonymous No.18831168]

>>18831155
>Just checked his twitter and it's bad. "Y'all better be supporting vaccine mandates!" tier bad.

[Anonymous No.18831183]

>>18831002
I mean, a child is raped in the first two pages. I’m a bakkerchad, but there is a lot of rape.

[Anonymous No.18831194]

>>18831155
The great thing about these awful woke writers is they ALWAYS have a twitter and it's ALWAYS full of shit. Very easy to weed out the bad books they write.

[Anonymous No.18831197]

>>18831183
Is only implied. I had already forgotten about it until you mentioned it.

The extreme amount of names is annoying but the plot is interesting so far so I shall continue. Gunna take me forever to read this though.

[Anonymous No.18831204]

>>18830981
>>18831085
>>18831155
are you ok anon

[Anonymous No.18831245]

>>18831197
The extreme amount of rape is annoying but the scat is interesting

[Anonymous No.18831605]

Im not gonna lie Bakker seems super interesting to me but I'm never gonna read because of the shitposting.

[Anonymous No.18831646]

>finish first bakker book
OR
>Try to find something else to read
Tough call.

[Anonymous No.18831858]

>>18831646
try Literotica with the tags "Gay" and "Rape"

[Anonymous No.18831902]

>>18831605
The seething anti-Bakker shitposters have the reverse effect of making people want to read him. Kek

[Anonymous No.18831920]

Pic related getting delivered tomorrow
The Peripheral and Agency are the only books I've yet to read by Gibson

[Anonymous No.18831924]

>>18831920

[Anonymous No.18831951]

>>18831605
>>18831902
The fact that an author make some people seethe so hard and some people recommend him so much really is reason alone to read him(or her).

You want to read controversial authors for those very reasons. The writing will be different, the narrative will be different. Maybe you won’t like it but at least you experienced it.

I read Sanderson’s Mistborn trilogy and it was fine but not anything super good. He is very controversial here. After reading Bakker I really can’t read Sanderson anymore without feeling a little shame.

[Anonymous No.18831960]

>when I trick people Into reading dirty anal rape!

[Anonymous No.18831986]

>>18829673
cRaShSpAcE oF mEaNiNg!!1!

sEmAnTiC aPoCaLyPsE!1!

>>look at me, i'm throwing words together and pretending they mean something important
>>why will no one approve of my phd dissertation??

[Anonymous No.18831992]

>>18831951
>an author
no one mentioned the author you stupid nigger. we're talking about the attention whoring and the constant shilling.

[Anonymous No.18831995]

>>18831902
keep telling yourself that bakker tranny.

[Anonymous No.18832002]

>>18831646
I recommend reading the first trilogy sequentially, then taking a break, reading some palate cleansers, then taking a deep breath and diving into the second series.

Books IV and V are a pair. Books VI and VII should be read together. The entire second series is something like 2500 pages, but it’s worth doing it in one slog if you are hardy enough to persevere.

By the middle of Book VI you won’t want to put it down until the very last page of TUC.

[Anonymous No.18832007]

>>18831960
Why do you insist on this shitposting. It only promotes Bakkerposting and Bakker. Or maybe that was your plan all along.

Here is the part of the third book he is referring to.

[Anonymous No.18832030]

We got a number one victory royale
Yeah, Bakker, we 'bout to get down (get down)
Ten Rapes on the board right now
Just wiped out Nonmen Town
My friend just got downed
Yeah I Raped him, like a horny hound

[Anonymous No.18832032]

>>18832007
Good prose desu

[Anonymous No.18832036]

What fonts do you use?

[Anonymous No.18832046]

>>18832036
shitty brown so I can read Bakker

[Anonymous No.18832048]

>>18832036
Garamond
Athelas
Fucking Old English Text

[Anonymous No.18832055]

I finished Knife of Dreams (WoT) and I'm very, very hesitant to continue. This Brandon Sanderson guy writes differently and it just doesn't feel right when I try to get through the prologue, alone. What do I do, anons? I've come so far but I feel like it's an insult to read another man's writing. It's basically informed fanfiction at this point. I bet Robert Jordan was murdered by the CIA.

[Anonymous No.18832145]

>>18832055
Just finish it.

[Anonymous No.18832239]

>>18832055
Brando Sanderso

[Anonymous No.18832468]

>>18832055
Sanderson sucks but you gotta just finish the slog. I think he did a halfway decent job of finishing everything, it's worth it to just be done with the series and characters. He butchers Mat for the most part, which is a bit of a dick kick.

[Anonymous No.18832558]

>>18830552
>There should be a drinking game when reading Wolfe to chug every time the narrator is unreliable, the main characters are involved in a play, or an almost completely independent short story spontaneously starts in the middle of a book.
Ah, I see you've read this one

[Anonymous No.18832567]

>>18831183
Trump was so based. He never said that, but I miss that he never batted an eyelash about the lies they told about him and all the bullshit

[Anonymous No.18832579]

What am I getting myself into with this?

[Anonymous No.18832594]

>>18832579
Something written by a woman.

[Anonymous No.18832598]

>>18832007
>The Sandersöi deleted his post
Pottery

[Anonymous No.18832603]

>>18832594
I have her three other books so I'm fine with that. The problem is I normally don't read Fantasy.

[Anonymous No.18832613]

>>18826346
The foundation by asimov

[Anonymous No.18832629]

>>18832055
There's less descriptions of lace and hair tugging, and he completely omits the Demandred reveal that Jordan had planned. He also butchers the last chapter (written by Jordan) by failing to properly align his writing with it. It makes the actual authors work feel out of place. That being said, I still found those 3 books more enjoyable than the last 6 because shit FINALLY starts being resolved. On the whole, the series falls to live up to the promise offered by the first 4 books

[Anonymous No.18832713]

>>18829853
bakker was super inspired by dune

[Anonymous No.18832827]

>>18832629
I don't know, anon. It's sad because the last book I read, Knife of Dreams (11), finally paid off at the end with Perrin finding Faile, Mat marrying Tuon, Elayne defating Arymilla. All that's really left is the White Tower plot, wrapping up Seanchan consolidation, wrapping up the Forsaken, and Tarmon Gaidon of course. You're right, books 5-10 were pretty weak but this last one really wrapped stuff up in a good way and I'm worried it's going to go to shit because some Mormon faggot killed Robert Jordan due to CIA meddling. I think they wanted to ruin the book series on purpose and prevent the REAL plot from coming out, because it was going to ignite a cultural firestorm that unleashes the hidden potential in many of us. They can't let the Asha'man and Aes Sedai rise again or they'll have a reckoning.
>>18832145
>>18832468
I'm gonna do it. I'll power through it. I made through quite possibly 2,000 pages worth of filler in the course of the last 6 books. I should never have faltered and altered course, anons... I was weak...

[Anonymous No.18832831]

Do you think he'll go full retard?

[Anonymous No.18832950]

>>18831605

>false flagging
>things that never happened
>rent free
>still seething
>can’t cope

You got filtered, alright.

[Anonymous No.18832955]

>>18831605
Really? I just bought his books today because of your shit posting.

[Anonymous No.18833030]

Rec me a book like event horizon movie

[Anonymous No.18833071]

>>18833030
the god engines

[Anonymous No.18833110]

>>18833071
Tnx anon sounds interesting

[Anonymous No.18833238]

>>18833110
np, hope you enjoy. it's short too, i read it on a long train ride

[Anonymous No.18833611]

>>18832579
An object lesson in why 2nd person narration isn't common.

[Anonymous No.18833659]

>>18833611
While there are exceptions to that rule in general 2nd person is harder to write (well) and makes the reading clunky and less enjoyable.

[Anonymous No.18833708]

>>18833030
warhammer 40k books involving the chaos, warp geller fields failing

[Anonymous No.18833744]

Are these as obsessed with gender and identity as they seem from spoiler free reviews?

[Anonymous No.18833762]

>>18833744
I wouldn't say so, gender does playa role in the magic system and story tho.
Even then it's trash regarless and you would be better off reading anything else.
How about you inperhaps starting the Sword in the Storm By Gemmel?

[Anonymous No.18833783]

>>18833762
Not really looking for hero fantasy, just some easy to read fantasy series that isn’t asoiaf

[Anonymous No.18833798]

>>18833744
The reviews focus more on that element of the story than the books do.

[Anonymous No.18833836]

>>18833744
i really hate coming across that grainy, tiny image of the eye of the world book cover.
wikipedia desperately needs to update it.

[Anonymous No.18833908]

>>18833744
not in the sense you're thinking, though gender and boomer-tier gender bickering does play a role in the story. and>>18833798
is also correct.

[Anonymous No.18833944]

>>18833744
I wouldn’t recommend this series to anyone.

[Anonymous No.18834094]

Just read "The Institute" by King.

I admit I haven't read his other novels, and they apparently were big inspirations for Stranger Things, but even after reading the synopses of the ones that people point out (Carrie, Firestarter, It), I still feel like The Institute seemed really similar, in more ways than just the "psychic kids" device.

[Anonymous No.18834148]

Bro the scholars story is the closest a book has gotten me to cry, fuck

[Anonymous No.18834152]

>Talking to somebody about fantasy, they describe how they've got multiple bookshelves filled with nothing but fantasy
>Turns out they don't really read at all maybe one short story a year

[Anonymous No.18834180]

>>18834152
>multiple bookshelves filled with nothing but fantasy
>don't really read at all maybe one short story a year
Sounds like a good decision on their part.

[Anonymous No.18834196]

smart taravangian did nothing wrong

[Anonymous No.18834415]

Ellen Ullman can be mentioned

[Anonymous No.18834454]

>>18833744
>>18833762
>>18833944

Yeah it's trash. It starts off as blatant pastiche of better authors the genre and was obviously only intended to be three books at most, but it got extended indefinitely because it was a cash cow, to the point where the plot trickles to a halt and literally nothing of consequence happens for multiple books.

[Anonymous No.18834536]

>>18834196
Literally who.

[Anonymous No.18834618]

since wheel of time i shit according to you guys
masalan is boring and like a wiki entry
game of thrones is mediocre and will never get finished
And everything by Sanderson is like reading a below average light novel.....
what the fuck is a good long fantasy epic?

[Anonymous No.18834622]

>>18834618
The Prince of Nothing by R.Scott.Bakker

[Anonymous No.18834631]

>>18834618
The Lord of the Rings, by J.R.R. Tolkien

[Anonymous No.18834636]

>scat obsessed incel finally got banned
Based mods.

[Anonymous No.18834637]

>>18834622
> why yes, I do enjoy torture scat porn.

[Anonymous No.18834646]

>>18834637
I swear every time someone gets tortured it says that they shit themselves. Every time.

[Anonymous No.18834652]

>>18834637
You’re on your phone now? Bakker really filtered you, huh sweetie?

[Anonymous No.18834666]

>>18834618
You’re unironically missing out if you haven’t read Bakker. Just look at the filtered schizos here. Do you want to be one of them?

[Anonymous No.18834672]

>>18834631
Yes I do agree but I have already read it and the lyonesse and the beligarad, I liked all of them but the Beligarad wasn't as good.

[Anonymous No.18834686]

>>18834672
Try The Sword of Shannara by Terry Brooks

[Anonymous No.18834692]

>>18834666
>>18834622
For me it seems like both anti bakker and pro bakker anons are schizos are lunatics. And the books in the bookstore I have access to have covers that look like gay smut.
I'm pretty sure you are all just memeing it and it garbage.

[Anonymous No.18834703]

>>18834686
Thanks I will give it a try.

[Anonymous No.18834704]

>>18834637
>>18834646

[Anonymous No.18834707]

>>18834692
Doesn’t matter, you will give in and read it anyway, just like every other anon before you. You’ll either love it or get filtered. Those are the likely outcomes.

[Anonymous No.18834709]

>>18834703
Be warn, that its overly derivative of the The Lord of the Rings

[Anonymous No.18834717]

>>18832827
The snakes & foxes and dark Rand plots were pretty good. Tarmon Gaidon was fucking gay, except for the Logain and Demandred bits.

[Anonymous No.18834718]

>>18834692
By the way you write, I would recommend that you stick with YA books.

[Anonymous No.18834725]

>>18834707
I’m thinking filtered.

She’s literally criticising the book covers.

[Anonymous No.18834731]

>>18834704
fucking based

[Anonymous No.18834732]

Why can't Bakkerchuds just admit that Martin is a superior storyteller? Bakker is a glorified ideas guy who can't write to save his leaf ass.

[Anonymous No.18834734]

>>18834692
same, they're all either mentally ill or intentional shitposters

[Anonymous No.18834739]

>>18834732
At least Bakker finished his series

[Anonymous No.18834744]

>>18834704
His prose is unironically amazing. Might actually give it a try.

[Anonymous No.18834748]

Why is she so lovely and perfect and adorable bros?

I can't believe she's married to some retarded redneck. Why do American girls do this?

[Anonymous No.18834749]

>>18834636
>>18834637

[Anonymous No.18834754]

>>18834739
But he didn't, it currently ends on fattest cliffhanger out there.

[Anonymous No.18834758]

>>18834739
Anon......

[Anonymous No.18834759]

>>18834732
Expect you haven’t read Bakker.

[Anonymous No.18834762]

>>18834748
Are the books she’s holding female literature?

[Anonymous No.18834768]

>>18834744
The writing is indeed very nice.

[Anonymous No.18834770]

>>18834762
Yes.

[Anonymous No.18834772]

>>18834762
Stormlight and Wheel of time?

They are for everyone who enjoys Fantasy.

[Anonymous No.18834777]

>>18834770
Thank you. I’m new to reading, but I will definitely avoid those.

[Anonymous No.18834780]

>>18834618

Honestly you have to go back to the weird fiction era of the 70s or earlier, when the authors were still inventive rather than having everything be filtered through the lens of Tolkien and endless YA hero's journey narratives, both of which have "clean" and simplistic concepts of good and evil that don't require critical thinking.

[Anonymous No.18834783]

>>18834772
Yeah, Just like Toy Story and Shrek are films for everyone.

[Anonymous No.18834784]

>>18834770
based anon correctly guiding people away from shit books.

[Anonymous No.18834820]

>>18834759
I read the first novel. It was okay, decent, good even. I will finish the series at some point. Bakker is not a very good writer, nowhere on par with Martin, especially when it comes to exposition within the narrative. Whereas Martin's lore unfolded in a way that felt natural and immediate to the situation at hand, Bakker picks the short path of either having characters have long lonesome internal monologues that serve as a way for the writer to interject the narrative and lecture you about the history for a while, or 2deep4you philosophical debates that serve equal purpose. Get real.

[Anonymous No.18834831]

>>18834820
> Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was shitting brown water. The more she drank, the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew, and her thirst sent her crawling to the stream to suck up more water. When she closed her eyes at last, Dany did not know whether she would be strong enough to open them again.
I accept your defeat.

[Anonymous No.18834837]

>>18834783
They are!

[Anonymous No.18834861]

>>18834704
>>18834831
what?

[Anonymous No.18834867]

Is it normal to need a dictionary when reading gene wolfe? Or am I just especially retarded?

[Anonymous No.18834871]

>>18828814
>Your protagonist is an incompetent, privileged shit who judges everyone constantly but never suffers for it, and ultimately succeeds because nepotism.
You have something else to share with the class, anon? Something about class inequality and black power? Just asking.

[Anonymous No.18834879]

>>18834748
big dick energy

[Anonymous No.18834887]

>>18834831
There's nothing wrong with this piece of prose. It treads a fine balance between artistic depiction and gross imagery, exactly what the author was going for. Bakker would probably describe it how each brown watery stool trickled down into the stream, diluting and carrying away the memories of meals past or some shit.

[Anonymous No.18834888]

>>18834831
Kek. Imagine thinking that Martin is good.

[Anonymous No.18834890]

>>18828169
We'll have to weaponize full anime OPs again. This half shit ain't cutting it.

[Anonymous No.18834893]

>>18834888
he's trash. and somehow bakker is even worse.

[Anonymous No.18834895]

>>18834831
Fucking LMAO

Is this real?

[Anonymous No.18834899]

>>18834895
Yes, it's from A Dance of Dragons.

[Anonymous No.18834900]

>>18834893
Nah, Martin and Bakker are both good actually. Not that you would understand.

[Anonymous No.18834905]

>>18834899
>of
with*

[Anonymous No.18834906]

>>18834887
Try again, sweetie. :)

[Anonymous No.18834911]

The only good fantasy prose is tolkien. All of you trannies can shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.18834912]

>>18834887
> There's nothing wrong with this piece of prose. It treads a fine balance between artistic depiction and gross imagery, exactly what the author was going for
No him, but you’re actually retarded.

[Anonymous No.18834923]

>>18834887
So this is what surrender looks like.

[Anonymous No.18834924]

What about magical realism?

[Anonymous No.18834933]

What's your favorite cuck fantasy? Mine's Bakker obvs.

[Anonymous No.18834942]

>>18834933
Based. Kellhus inspired me to become a BVLL.

[Anonymous No.18834963]

>>18834942
This.

[Anonymous No.18834990]

>>18834748
Is that Riley Reid?

[Anonymous No.18834997]

>>18834831
The best part is this bit of writing adds literally nothing to the story. At least with the Bakker shit quoted above Achamian is disgusted by it, and muses on how even the strongest of men can get involuntarily betrayed by their body.
Here Martin just adds a 14 year old girl getting diarrhoea because ???

[Anonymous No.18835020]

>>18834887
A swing and a miss

[Anonymous No.18835022]

>>18834887
Ironically I can't recall Bakker giving any descriptions of shit even half as deep as that one. He mostly just mentions it.

[Anonymous No.18835033]

>>18834997
to show this is a harsh and cruel world and no matter how noble you view yourself as you are human in the end bound to the same disputing bodily functions as your fellow men.
See I can do it too, both of them are just scat fetishists and you know it.

[Anonymous No.18835035]

>>18834887
Like pottery.

[Anonymous No.18835051]

is this what fantasy ha come to? comparison of people shitting themselves in order to determine who the better writer is?
Isn't the whole point of fantasy to not depict reality as is? why add this disgusting shit in it in the first place?

[Anonymous No.18835059]

>>18835051
I don't like it either. Reading shit like pic related just feels gross. Even if the story is good it still bothers me.

[Anonymous No.18835063]

>>18835059
unironically excellent prose

[Anonymous No.18835065]

>>18835022
That's why Bakker is a shit writer.

[Anonymous No.18835072]

>>18835059

>Reading shit like pic related just feels gross. Even if the story is good it still bothers me.

This is exactly why the whole fantasy genre has become more and more divorced from literature and has become consumerists garbage. Readers want to be coddled and insulated from negative emotions.

[Anonymous No.18835078]

>>18835065
>I need graphically obvious closed-caption style descriptions of things happening or the writer is bad because I’m a retarded hylic that completely lacks visual imagination and enjoyment of language for its own sake

[Anonymous No.18835079]

>>18835072
Anon I just trudged through that entire trilogy, and I enjoyed it on the whole. But reading about unwashed anus stench and rotten armpits and shit does not please me, sorry to say.

[Anonymous No.18835089]

>>18835072
Please do tell me which great work of literature involve excruciating detail about scat and the like.
I have read the whole works of Plato and I don't remember reading it once, I guess he must be a bad writer.

[Anonymous No.18835107]

>>18835078
Is that a drawing of you of something?
Kinda fits the whiny tone of your post.
Nigga he bad.

[Anonymous No.18835112]

>>18835079
He tries a lot to focus on mundane reality of large armies in his stories as an opposite to usual focus on big ass epic battles, I guess mention of stench and things like that are mostly here to add to overall atmosphere.

[Anonymous No.18835114]

>>18835051
Fantasy is not literature.

[Anonymous No.18835116]

>>18835089
>I have read the whole works of Plato and I don't remember reading it once, I guess he must be a bad writer.
Guess so.

[Anonymous No.18835123]

>>18835079
Not my problem.

[Anonymous No.18835134]

>>18835089
>things that never happened.

[Anonymous No.18835141]

>>18835107
Weak comeback. Try again.

[Anonymous No.18835149]

>>18835114
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/literature
please read it and come back to me.

[Anonymous No.18835162]

>>18835134
Not him but the point is valid. For example, the greatest literary work in the field of fantasy is Tolkien's and there is no arguing it, and shied away form such vulgar depiction every chance he had.

[Anonymous No.18835164]

>>18835059
Not wrong with that. You need to reduce your söy intake if this triggers you.

[Anonymous No.18835170]

>>18835162
>Not him
Stopped reading there.

[Anonymous No.18835178]

>>18835149
Sorry tranny. Fantasy is not real literature. Everyone knows and agrees with this.

[Anonymous No.18835180]

>>18835033
That point has already been established though, and nowhere in the thoughts of the character is that even hinted.

[Anonymous No.18835183]

>>18835063
>the honey of unwashed anuses
>good prose
why are bakkerfags so gay?

[Anonymous No.18835186]

>>18835149
When was the last time that a fantasy author won the Nobel Prize?

[Anonymous No.18835193]

>>18835164
>If you don't want to read about people taking stinking shits you are not a real man
WTF are you guys smoking.

[Anonymous No.18835194]

>>18835183
>projecting this much
Sorry, but I only think of the bodily function of the anus when I come across said word. You’re the one who brought homosexuality up.

[Anonymous No.18835198]

>>18835141
Nah, it's not fun.
You can't even shitpost without sounding like a whiny bitch.

>>18835186
Given the current state of Nobel Prizes, it's about time some fantasy writer get's one. Everyone else seems to have gotten one.

[Anonymous No.18835200]

>>18835194
>im only thinking about the biology of male on male rape
holy cope.

[Anonymous No.18835201]

>>18835186
Reminder that Obama won the Nobel peace prize while children in the middle east.
Just as any other prize it mean literally nothing these days and I wonder if it ever meant something.

[Anonymous No.18835206]

>>18835200
Nothing about rape on that scene, schizo. You can project all you like. I accept your homosexuality.

[Anonymous No.18835212]

>>18835201
Should have gotten one of 'em sciency related.
The dude popularized drone technology like no one before him.

[Anonymous No.18835215]

>>18835198
I accept your concession, then.

[Anonymous No.18835224]

>>18835178
This. Real writers look down on genre “writers”.

[Anonymous No.18835229]

>>18835206
>honey of
>unwashed anuses
yes the first thing that comes to mind when thinking of anuses.

[Anonymous No.18835233]

>>18835215
M'lord.

[Anonymous No.18835234]

>>18835229
it’s unironically an evocative and poetic construction, proselet

[Anonymous No.18835235]

>>18835229
Not my problem that you enjoy pouring honey on your boyfriend’s anus.

[Anonymous No.18835244]

>>18835234
Are Bakkerfags that delusional?

[Anonymous No.18835251]

>>18835234
>"honey of unwashed anuses" is evocative description
you said it not me.

[Anonymous No.18835253]

>>18835244
He’s correct. You should be thankful. Martin would have said something way worse.

[Anonymous No.18835254]

>>18835244
Maybe they are just fags?
They can't see the ass for all the hair, so to speak.

[Anonymous No.18835264]

>>18835059
Unironically amazing prose. The fact that some one went trough the trouble of finding these just to continue the discussion about Bakker really makes me happy. Thank you anon.

[Anonymous No.18835269]

>>18835264
We should change this general to /Bakker-gen/ already.

[Anonymous No.18835272]

>>18835264
>Unironically amazing prose
It isn't.

[Anonymous No.18835274]

>>18835234
This.

[Anonymous No.18835275]

>>18835264
bakkerfags are just gonna shit up the threads anyway. might was well have some fun while at it.

[Anonymous No.18835277]

>>18835264
>>18835269

Agreed. We can’t stop winning.

[Anonymous No.18835279]

>>18835269
I honestly wanted to talk about other shit today but both bakker fags and anti-bakker fags just don't relent.

[Anonymous No.18835290]

>>18835277
what are you winning? a ruined thread on /lit/?

[Anonymous No.18835291]

>>18835279
What did you want to talk about?
I am getting bored of shitposting, might as well do something more productive.

[Anonymous No.18835296]

>>18835277
Derailing a thread is winning?

[Anonymous No.18835298]

>>18835290
U mad?

[Anonymous No.18835299]

>>18835298
>doesnt answer the question

[Anonymous No.18835302]

>>18835296
I’m not derailing anything. Are you?

[Anonymous No.18835303]

>>18835299
He's too busy winning.

[Anonymous No.18835305]

>>18835302
>Shitposting isn’t derailing

[Anonymous No.18835307]

>>18835303
Based, unironically.

[Anonymous No.18835308]

Is there a discord or something where we can about sff without bakkertrannies and sjws?

[Anonymous No.18835314]

>>18835308
The Bakkerfags have their own discord and should fuck off to it.

[Anonymous No.18835317]

>>18835307
I’m not the scat obsessed schizo, anon. Sorry.

[Anonymous No.18835318]

>>18835308
>discord
>without bakkertrannies and sjws
where do you think they come form.

[Anonymous No.18835321]

>>18835308
But Discord is their natural habitat.

[Anonymous No.18835323]

>>18835314
>>18835318
>>18835321
Should we make our own discord?

[Anonymous No.18835325]

>>18835251
>>18835244
>>18835229
That line is from the POV of a skin spy who have heightened senses are basically extremely carnal and get off from rape and violence. Their evil is made all the obnoxious things. That is why they liked the smell of anuses

Context

[Anonymous No.18835330]

>>18835314
Are you an sjw? I thought you guys enjoyed scat.

[Anonymous No.18835331]

new thread
>>18835328

[Anonymous No.18835333]

>>18835314
No, we don’t.

>>18835308
>Berserk
The most Bakkeresque manga in existence; to the point I believe Scott must have read it at some point.

[Anonymous No.18835343]

>>18835323
Fuck no. Only bakkerfags and trannies would use one.

[Anonymous No.18835349]

>>18835325
He can’t read Bakker. Context is pointless to filtered brainlets

[Anonymous No.18835354]

>>18835059
>the honey on unwashed anuses

[Anonymous No.18835356]

>>18835354
You don't get it, it unironically makes sense and is great writing, you need to read the book to get it.

[Anonymous No.18835358]

>>18835356
It doesn't.

[Anonymous No.18835367]

>>18835362
No, it doesn't make any sense and it isn't great writing.

[Anonymous No.18835379]

The quality discrepancy between haters and appreciaters makes me want to read Bakker.

[Anonymous No.18835389]

I made a server.
https://discord.gg/rBu5UWjV
Join if you wanna. I will be instantly banning any bakkerfags or trannies.

[Anonymous No.18835392]

>>18835384
Sure, anon keep coping.

[Anonymous No.18835402]

>>18835367
>>18835392
>quoting from the newest thread
Cringe

[Anonymous No.18835404]

>>18835402
no

[Anonymous No.18835416]

>>18835389
Nobody wants a discord, now fuck off.

[Anonymous No.18835417]

>>18835404
>no
Cope

[Anonymous No.18835421]

>>18835416
okay bakkerfag.

[Anonymous No.18835422]

>>18835417
Yeah, keep derailing threads for a shit author that only five people here reads.

[Anonymous No.18835441]

>>18835422
Seethe :)

[Anonymous No.18835448]

>>18835422
>that only five people here reads.
>five people
>reads
Lol

[Anonymous No.18835458]

>>18835422
You can’t even write properly.