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[Anonymous No.18820521]

Do I have to read him to understand philosophy?

Every secondary source calls his super influential, "without a doubt the most influential of the 19th century," in From Decartes to Derrida, or ranking him with Plato and Aristotle, but I also found the start of the Phenomenology of Spirit absolutely incomprehensible.

Also, I notice a very high correlation of schizoposting and him, although that's true for Plato too but Plato is still worthwhile IMHO.

[Anonymous No.18820535]

Hegel was a sorcerer and the Left and Right being lobotomized bastard children of Liberalism and Conservativsm don’t get this. He advocated for a supreme divine state much like the Reich or the USSR’s plans for Europe and so you can take his insights and use them to justify extreme statism or some kind of techno-socialist autarchy. Right Hegelians focus on his dealings with Spirit, Leftists focus mostly on the Dialectic itself and try to secularize that as some type of silent-pneumatic machinery that drives history towards class conflict and communist statism. They’re both insane and Hegel’s phenomenology is a form of memetic psychoactive agent that binds the minds of everyone who reads it. Its venom, pure necrotizing linguistic magic. He was a genius for this reason. Also if you’re not an autistic retard he basically shows you how the techno-alchemical engineers of civilization are transforming humanity into a sacrificial killing field for otherworldly forces but that’s not interesting to rightists or leftists because they’re castrati golem creatures who only exist to poke holes in the barrier between man’s conscious rational awareness and his subconscious cthonic realm. If you wait long enough Hegel’s name will come up in most discussions by these groups. He’s the root of all their lunacy.

[Anonymous No.18820582]

>>18820521
He's basically unreadable without any introduction.
But desu once you get into how he's argumentation works, his lexical quirks and some general leitmotifs the phenomenology becomes much more linear.
It is also worth nothing that his recorded lessons were much more comprehensible (at least as I recall it's been a while)

Anyway he's really important but you don't need Hegel to read Derrida or whatever. The obsession this place has for the primary source in philosophy is very "amateurish". Get some good introduction, get a general sense so you what people are talking about when they're talking about his philosophy. Then if it has piqued your interest you go for a deep dive. This is true for Hegel as it is for Aristotle.
I suggest Kojeve book on the PdG, which was very influential in its own right and you could uses it side by side with a copy of the PdG . Iif not probably some Cambridge companion or something like that will do. I myself am now in the middle of reading Hyppolite's book on it.

[Anonymous No.18820610]

Hegal is a waste of time don't bother. The people who shill Hegal are wannabe intellectuals who want to have bragging rights about reading a 700 page autistic rant that no one cares about or understands.

Just read Plato and Aristotle.

[Anonymous No.18820627]

>>18820610
I've read Plato and Aristotle as well as Decartes and some Spinoza and Kant. It's just that Hegel normally gets mentioned as one of the most important ones.

[Anonymous No.18820642]

>>18820582
Thanks.

>>18820535
See, how can I not want to read him. A dead dude still produces this sort of intellectual reaction across a host of communities two centuries later. He has to have something going on. Only Plato gets this sort of vibe going too.

[Anonymous No.18820644]

>>18820627
>It's just that Hegel normally gets mentioned as one of the most important ones.

Its because alot of retards are able to take what he said and read their on views into it. So he is considered important.

[Anonymous No.18821260]

>>18820582
>start with what "people" i.e. some nobody scholars are talking about
stupid advice

[Anonymous No.18821332]

>>18820521
read fred beiser

[Anonymous No.18821353]

>>18820535
Based schizo.
I wish I could have a conversation with you.

[Anonymous No.18821379]

>>18821260
>bang your head against books written centuries if not millenia ago without any context or elementary knowledge about philosophy

the true mark of a simpleton