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>start reading this
>get to part where it tells me i should read a book all the way through at least once without looking up or ponder things i don't understand
sure, seems legit
>get to part where it tells me to take structural notes
>what kind of book is it?
>what's it about
>what structure does it follow
wait, but...
>specifies that this is different from conceptual notes, which tackle the concepts itself
but how can you talk about what a book's about and its structure without talking about its concepts?
>structural notes are the kind of notes you take during the superficial reading stage of inspectional reading
so I shouldn't ponder over things, but still think about how i notate its structure
>try to go on reading bc i shouldn't look up or ponder anything
>book starts explaining the rules of analytical reading, which includes "ennumerate its major parts in their order and relation, and outline these parts as you have outlined the whole"
how is that NOT structural?
>try to go on reading it whilst taking notes
>pretty much start making my own table of contents
>what is even the point?
i know i should just read it all the way through no matter if i understand it or not, but now i can't bc i don't even know how i'd do so.
taking structural notes doesn't make any fucking sense, if i could just read it first and then break it down analytically the second time around it would all make sense, but this little detail is making it all come crashing down for me
what am i missing?

>> No.18814392

>>18814383
>needs to read a book to learn how to read books
Yeah you're retarded

>> No.18814423

idk just read man

>> No.18814449

If you just read a lot in the genres/topics/lineages that you like, you will naturally begin to understand structure etc through passive comparison. You’ll be like “okay this is like book x but done in a book y style with a book z setting.”

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This book is a massive waste of time; just follow the classical method
>Look over the title page, blurb, and table of contents; if there is a preface or forward read it—only if it's written by the author or the translator, otherwise save it for later
>Start reading: while reading, write down/highlight any notable passages or things that stick out to you
>After you're done with the chapter, summarize the entire chapter in 1–2 sentences (if the chapter is longer/divided into sections, summarize each section instead of the entire thing) in your own words; don't reference the book (i.e., go back over the chapter) while you're summarizing, force yourself to recall everything you can from memory. Ask yourself: if I could remember one concept/point/etc from this chapter, what would it be? Incorporate the answer into your summary (remember that *understanding concepts* is more important than *remembering facts*)
>After summarizing, go back and write your own thoughts, questions, responses, etc to the material.
This is a good three-step classically-oriented approach to (basic) note-taking

>> No.18814709

>>18814392
also, isn't there a pretty glaring logical problem here? Like, if one doesn't already know how to read books, how are they going to read the book about reading books?

>> No.18814791

>>18814449
Oh, so it's more about just saying what kind of structure it is instead of actually writing its entire structure out in detail?
that makes sense, thanks a lot anon
>>18814462
that seems like a good method, but i'm still gonna finish the book bc so far it does contain a lot of useful information.
still though, thanks

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>>18814392
>>18814423
>>18814709
nvm, it would seem as though YOU were the true retards all along

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>>18814803
I don't get it. Can't you just read a book? Like, just read words and understand them?

>> No.18815085

>>18814803
Sorry, but I don't get it. Do you have an infographic about how to read infographics?

>> No.18815649

>>18815055
for me it's not about reading the words and understanding them, it's about remembering what the book's has taught me once i've finished it
i'm still new to the /lit/heel life, so unless i wanna read fiction exclusively - which i don't - i'm gonna have to learn how to retain a book's contents

>> No.18815692

>>18814709
>if one doesn't already know how to read books, how are they going to read the book about reading books?
You watch the youtube video obviously.

>> No.18815699

>>18814392
If you lack a formal education on reading classics then yeah, you need to learn how to read them from somewhere. That's only if you want to get the most out of it though.

>> No.18815804

>>18815699
yessir i most certainly do, and i also very much lack any sort of education on any form of the fine arts
in fact, the reason for me coming to this is board is i'm kinda planning on (re)educating myself through books

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>>18814383
Ahhh, you need this.