/sffg/ - Science fiction and Fantasy general

[Anonymous No.18811141]

Dragon Rider Edition

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[Anonymous No.18811166]

>>18811141
OP is a fag

[SAGE No.18811183]

>>18811166
heh

[Anonymous No.18811205]

>>18811166
based

[Anonymous No.18811212]

trubba not lil nigga

[Anonymous No.18811258]

[Anonymous No.18811284]

I recently heard of Greg Egan as a great sci-fi writer. Do you guys know where I could start with him? I only read lots of Asimov and some small sci-fi stories. Currently reading "An Unusual Angle". It's good, just a bit whacky.

[Anonymous No.18811349]

>>18811166
the animefaggot OP is back
we all hate you

[Anonymous No.18811364]

I love the pic in the OP

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.18811375]

>Oooaah. I wanna big tiddy dragon girlfren soooo bad!

> Dragon Rider Edition
Have you even read Pern books?
Anne McCaffery’s death got no sticky either.

[Anonymous No.18811384]

>>18811375
Rest in Peace, Anne McCaffery

[Anonymous No.18811392]

is Dragonlance good? is it very good or just good?

[Anonymous No.18811408]

>>18811141
Writing about how aliens fucked up earth by fucking around with the necromincon and how they need to now save the world from the undead.

Do I have tentacle aliens, aaayyyyylmao aliens, humanoid aliens, or something else?

[Anonymous No.18811411]

>>18811392
I thought it was awesome when I was in the 6th grade. It was what got me started reading.

The best place to start in that world would be

The Chronicles Trilogy

Dragons of Autumn Twilight

Dragons of Winter Night

Dragons of Spring Dawning

Though, I must admit, that I don't know if I'd like it now.

[Anonymous No.18811433]

>>18811284
I really enjoyed "The City at the End of Time"

[Anonymous No.18811435]

>>18811411
thank you, maybe I'll read it. I downloaded Dragons of Autumn Twilight and was hesitant since everyone read it when they were kids but maybe I will enjoy it.

[Anonymous No.18811438]

>>18811392
It was enjoyable to me as a child but I fully recognize it as being lackluster to me as an adult. Same with Legend of Drizzt.

[Anonymous No.18811457]

>>18811438
its a quick series either way, 3 books hardly more than 400 pages. better to start here than the spooky shit you guys talk about here. why would I read thousands of pages about gay rape when I can read kid books, sounds more comfy.

[Anonymous No.18811463]

>>18811457
Keep in mind that if you enjoy those three, there's also two prequels, a sequel trilogy, some interquels called The Lost Chronicles, a short story collection called The Second Generation and another sequel novel.

[Anonymous No.18811503]

>>18811463
didn't know about them, thanks.

[Anonymous No.18811507]

>>18811503
You're welcome young man.

[Anonymous No.18811714]

Is Thrawn Ascendancy any good?

[Anonymous No.18811748]

[Anonymous No.18811763]

>>18811714
The books sets up some interesting ideas, but it seems like Disney basically told Zahn to sit outside of the Star Wars sandpit or else.

These books have just been going downhill in terms of actual sci-fi creativity and stakes/impact on the actual canon Star Wars universe, since Disney deleted the EU, since all the novels have zero canon impact.

The original Thrawn Trilogy was rough but interesting 90s sci-fi with some pulpy and yet enjoyably dumb aspects. The Hand of Thrawn was interesting as it had a bit of that Asimov Second Foundation flair. Outbound Flight and Choice of One etc, were interesting character/mystery pieces.

The nucanon novels play it way too safe and going back in time to see Thrawn's history is entertaining but I would rather literally see Thrawn's future character development and not whatever nucanon filler Disney has in mind next.

I guess part of the reason why tie in novels have such a bad reputation is because the authors can't do anything outside of their allocated block which makes them inferior to regular novels and this story epitomises that.

Half of the reason why Thrawn is an interesting character is because he's a morally grey antagonist with the Imperials and both the protags and antags are put through some hard choices. In the Legends version, it's interesting to see characters that I root for vs Thrawn that I root for and the sacrifices that they both make in spite of it. A lot of the nucanon books take all the teeth out of the actual interesting conflict.

Since Thrawn's no longer in charge of the whole operation and is just another Grand Admiral, well a lot of the blame for the things he does is just shifted up the command chain. You don't really get to see him wage war on the scale and with the fallout of the originals. Instead we get a lot more internal conflict and red tape.

And the prequel stories... These are more like just why? Sure, it's interesting and often heartwarming to see Thrawn interact with the other characters and the mystery is interesting, but there is absolutely zero danger is involved (since we obviously can't cross any canonical lines) and there isn't really any development on top of what we've seen further down his timeline.

To some extent, a lot of these nucanon books lack everything that made me fall in love with the stories in the first place. Sure, you'll get some filler and some interesting standalone adventure that will return to status quo. Zahn writes an interesting story - but it's not nearly as interesting as if the authors had free rein and all the interesting characters weren't being saved for the next failure of a Star Wars movie.

[Anonymous No.18811775]

>>18811714
No, instead you should try Queen if Nothing. It beats that book in almost every aspect.

[Anonymous No.18811786]

>>18811392
It is not good, if I were you I would take a look at Kingdom of Ash. It handles dragons much better and the lore is more fleshed out.

[Anonymous No.18811790]

i just finished tales from a dying earth and honestly i enjoyed it more than i expected. i'm not one for humor-heavy books, i hate pratchett and i dropped gormenghast about 50 pages in. but these books and the dialogue in particular clicked with me and had me forcefully exhaling air through my nose every 10 pages. funnily enough, my previous book was night in lonesome october wthich is also kind of droll and i enjoyed more than i expected.

is lyonesse like this? it's on my list anyway but i might move it up to the next spot in line.

[Anonymous No.18811804]

>>18811790
probably Six Crimson Cranes

[Anonymous No.18811805]

>>18811763
>but it seems like Disney basically told Zahn to sit outside of the Star Wars sandpit
Well yeah it seems like they're basically adapting OG Thrawn trilogy for Mandalorian verse, the only difference being that the MCs are now Dave Filoni's OC donut steels instead of Luke, Han and Leia.
But i'm asking about Ascendancy trilogy specifically because it's supposed to be set in the Chiss Ascendancy. I'm interested if Zahn had an opportunity to flesh out chiss culture etc. because i'm usually not interested in prequels that are made just for the sake of telling a backstory of a famous character.

[Anonymous No.18811810]

>>18811786
thank you for the recommendation

[Anonymous No.18811817]

>>18811810
No problem, be sure to check out also Revealed in Fire

[Anonymous No.18811822]

>>18811805
Without spoiling too much, It covers Thrawn's background and his early career in the Chiss Ascendancy, and the sorts of missions/conflicts he got involved in with the other races in the Chaos. It also explains a lot about the Chiss culture and society.

[Anonymous No.18811830]

>>18811817
thanks bro, been looking for vampire stuff

[Anonymous No.18811832]

>>18811805
Without spoiling too much, It covers Thrawn's background and his early career in the Chiss Ascendancy, and the sorts of missions/conflicts he got involved in with the other races in the Chaos. So, it does go a bit in-depth about the Chiss culture and society. Still don't know if you're interested.

[Anonymous No.18811840]

Is this the best series of all time?

[Anonymous No.18811875]

>>18811832
Is there a lot world building or just a surface level world building with everything else being focused solely on Thrawn?

[Anonymous No.18811884]

>>18811875
Anon, you should decide whether or not you want to read it. Anyways, I have to sleep so that'll be it for me.

[Anonymous No.18811899]

>>18811840
Yes. I recommend everyone to read Sarah’s books. They are ipso facto sffg canon. If you haven’t read the books you will miss most of the relevant discussion going on here.

[Anonymous No.18811909]

>>18811875
Just pick any of these authors’ books and you are fine:
>Octavia E. Butler
>Patricia Briggs
>J. Elle
>Deborah Falaye

They are all highly rated best selling authors whose books will be on the shelves for the next two centuries.

[Anonymous No.18811914]

>>18810422
I think you'd like Red Queen's War more. No edgy teenager protagonist. It's actually downright funny, and I think Lawrence missed his calling as a humorist rather than a YA writer.

[Anonymous No.18812554]

>>18811899
>>18811840
LMAO

[Anonymous No.18812557]

you would have more FUN reading Sarah than dreadful Bikker

[Anonymous No.18812565]

>>18811899
>female literature
>canon

[Anonymous No.18812573]

>>18812557
>>18811899
>>18811840

You need to be 18 to post here.

[Anonymous No.18812628]

>>18812573
You don’t have to be able to recognise serious post from deliberate misleads to post here.

[Anonymous No.18812641]

>>18812628
both are low quality posts, they should all be purged

[Anonymous No.18812644]

>>18812573
Sarah is FUN
Bakker is not
no matter how you look at it, even if Bakker is complex and has philosophy and big cocks in his novels, he is not FUN and its a fact

[Anonymous No.18812672]

>>18812644
But I like my skin spy futa. J Maas simply doesn’t have it.

[Anonymous No.18812675]

>>18812644
>Rent free

[Anonymous No.18812691]

>>18812672
>>18812675
Futa lovers

[Anonymous No.18812700]

>omg there is HECKING RAPE!

[Anonymous No.18812713]

>>18812700
Bakker made Inchoroi be violent rapists in such a scale to portray the evil-apparents as despicable and revolting, to portray evil as something cruel and non relatable.

[Anonymous No.18812716]

>look at these miserable poor people
>everything smells like shit and everyone is sweaty
>raperaperaperaperape
>[female love interest] has fucked other people and/or is unfaithful
>everything is terrible and smells bad
why is modern fantasy like this?

[Anonymous No.18812717]

>>18812713
>Bakker made Inchoroi be violent rapists in such a scale to portray the evil-apparents as despicable and revolting, to portray evil as something cruel and non relatable.

[Anonymous No.18812724]

>>18812713
The Inchoroi had completely rational, understandable motivations.

[Anonymous No.18812727]

>>18812724
>The Inchoroi had completely rational, understandable motivations.

[Anonymous No.18812729]

>>18812716
Because it's hard to be a god

[Anonymous No.18812737]

>>18812717
>>18812727
What is it about Bakker that inspires such seething? I've never read his stuff

[Anonymous No.18812738]

>>18812724
Yes but they were also hard wired to get pleasure from violence and be complete rape maniacs. They could have achieved the system resumption without all the black seed. But I guess there is a reason why the creators of Inchoroi were damned.

[Anonymous No.18812743]

>>18812644
You can’t even write properly.

[Anonymous No.18812744]

>>18811790
I read the first of the 4 books today, had fun with it. As a nerd it was very fun to figure out that Vancian casting was meant literally - magic in Dying Earth functions just like in early DnD, spellslots and all. It gave Gygax the idea.

At the end of the book the short stories became a bit stale, since they all had the same structure. The oddity of the setting made up for it however.
I heard book 2 and 3 are the best, stoked for those.

[Anonymous No.18812745]

>>18812738
they were designed that way so they would be super mega damned which would encourage them to achieve resumption

[Anonymous No.18812749]

>>18812737
There are three types of people
1. Have read Bakker
2. Tried Bakker but got filtered
3. Have not read Bakker (You)

Usually it is a clash of 1. and 2. here. Counter signaling Bakker has always been a big cope.

[Anonymous No.18812752]

>>18812713
When did you start your hormone therapy?

[Anonymous No.18812756]

>I don't read about gay sex novels
>I read GAY RAPE! it different

[Anonymous No.18812761]

>>18812738
Not their fault. They didn't do anything wrong.

[Anonymous No.18812762]

>>18812745
Wouldn’t that make them more Ciphrang than regular damned? Like the way men of the ordeal outside Golgotterath were demons for the judging eye and cnaiur was a prince of hell. I guess Inchoroi can’t be stronger souls?

[Anonymous No.18812763]

>>18812756
I don’t mind have people like you in my novels.

[Anonymous No.18812766]

>>18812749
I'm not easily filtered, I hope one day to join 1.

[Anonymous No.18812768]

>>18812763
>I don’t mind have people like you in my novels.

[Anonymous No.18812769]

>>18812756
Would you like to recommend us a book? Many people like to bash Bakker but they rarely give an alternative.

[Anonymous No.18812773]

will sonmeone help me find a pirated copy of dune i would like to read it but ican't find how to get it

[Anonymous No.18812774]

>>18812762
I never understood why the Inchoroi have souls to begin with.

[Anonymous No.18812776]

>>18812766
Based

[Anonymous No.18812777]

>>18812769
>sffg when the book doesn't have gay sex!

[Anonymous No.18812782]

>>18812774
Can’t be dammed if you don’t have a soul, guess it was imperative for them to have a soul to accomplish the mission, or at least have a good reason for it. I wonder how they managed to give them souls. There was even a skin spy with a soul.

[Anonymous No.18812790]

>>18812700
>>18812717
>>18812727
>>18812756
>>18812768
>>18812777
>t.

[Anonymous No.18812791]

>when you read all bakker books and want more

[Anonymous No.18812797]

>>18812766
>>18812737
fyi, bakker is good and thoroughly engaging but the books are unfinished and will probably always remain so. read at your own risk

[Anonymous No.18812808]

>>18812797
This wouldn't be a first.

[Anonymous No.18812817]

>>18812797
TUC ending works find as an ending to the series

[Anonymous No.18812818]

>>18812738
>But I guess there is a reason why the creators of Inchoroi were damned.
I'm not sure if reason is needed. From what I got gods don't even bother with judgement in there, they just look if soul in question checks boxes or not and dispose of it accordingly. They won't give a fuck if for example you were good man in life and saved thousands of people from getting raped dismembered and devoured (in any order) by alien rape constructs whom you killed them with magic that was forced on you by School when you were kid, you used magic so into the pit you go. Creators of inchoroi probably brought that upon themselves simply by not worshiping gods. Inchoroi don't really seem to have full free will since they're basically biological weapons, but they are subject to full responsibility nonetheless.

[Anonymous No.18812823]

>black seed

[Anonymous No.18812826]

>>18812817
You could also stop after TTT if you wanted.

[Anonymous No.18812837]

>>18812817
i agree sort of. if bakker died or got into an accident that gave him brain damage, i'd champion this position. as it is, it feels like a canceled tv-series' unintended ending that sort of works, like mortal kombat conquest.

[Anonymous No.18812855]

>>18812817
When I was reading I didn't know that there is supposed to be part 3. It was kinda funny since I expected shit to be wrapped up instead of what happened. Although I guess if you know that there will be part 3 you would expect something like that.

[Anonymous No.18812928]

I once again ask, is there any Bakkerchad living in Canada? Go to Ontario and track down Bakker and demand answers regarding the No-God series. I want to know if there is any hope for it.

[Anonymous No.18812934]

>>18812672
Does Bakker have fat cheeks though?

[Anonymous No.18812935]

>>18812717
>>18812700
>The Progenitors are modern humans… in other words, they are us.

[Anonymous No.18812940]

I thought Ender's Game was fantastic and Terry Pratchett is fun as well.

[Anonymous No.18812942]

>>18812940
Not a week goes by I that I don't miss Sir Terry

[Anonymous No.18812944]

>>18812928
From what I’ve heard, he’s living on a booby-trapped prepper compound on a tobacco farm in rural Ontario. Intruders not welcome and will be dealt with accordingly.

In my opinion, what Scott truly needs is a really good therapist.

[Anonymous No.18812953]

>>18812944
you can grow tobacco in canada? seriously? fuck me everything i thought i knew about agriculture has been a lie can you grow olives and oranges too then?

[Anonymous No.18812958]

>>18812928
I'm looking at publication dates of TSA books and so far there is no reason to suspect anything it wrong or speak of any hiatus for at least couple more years. Is there anything I don't know that gives a reason to panic?

[Anonymous No.18812964]

>>18812944
he’s become akka in TJE. crazy old man alone in his tower, scaring off intruders with impressive pyrotechnic displays.
stepdaughtercest when?

[Anonymous No.18812967]

>BAKKER IS BASED!

[Anonymous No.18812989]

>There’s only 1-2 Bakkerfags and they always try to force discussion.

[Anonymous No.18812999]

You know what would improve Sanderson's writing? Gay rape. Imagine if a koloss just grabbed Elend and gave him some of that gigantic schlong with the ruptured skin hanging off of it

[Anonymous No.18813004]

>Try this great book by [female "author"]

[Anonymous No.18813005]

>>18812999
>Imagine if a koloss just grabbed Elend and gave him some of that gigantic schlong with the ruptured skin hanging off of it
Was für ein Elend

[Anonymous No.18813008]

Does Bakker even have a PO Box? I want to send him beer.

[Anonymous No.18813010]

>>18812958
Can you elaborate this? Afaik there is no publication date for TNG series

[Anonymous No.18813012]

I see the summer holidays have begun going by the number of autistic school kids posting at the moment.

[Anonymous No.18813018]

>>18813008
>Does Bakker even have a PO Box? I want to send him beer.

[Anonymous No.18813026]

>>18813005
I don't speak German

[Anonymous No.18813035]

>>18813026
Elend means misery.

[Anonymous No.18813043]

>>18813035
pretty word, unlike most german words. why did you give it such a rotten meaning?

[Anonymous No.18813046]

>>18813012
>I see the summer holidays have begun going by the number of autistic school kids posting at the moment.

[Anonymous No.18813058]

>>18813010
What's there to elaborate, there was maximum 5 years between books, generally 2-3. Add to that part 3 requiring more thoughtful work since it supposed to conclude everything, and possibly him working slower due to being tired of writing. Unless there are some other clues so far there is no reason to think he went grrm route yet.

[Anonymous No.18813070]

>>18813058
>hasn’t updated his blog in a year and a half
>has completely cut off all contact with the outside world

[Anonymous No.18813087]

>>18812756
It's not rape if you mind rape them into giving consent.

[Anonymous No.18813097]

>>18812944
He needs to be force fed the ashes of a Nonmen king until he finishes

[Anonymous No.18813109]

>when the new book doesn't have enough rape

[Anonymous No.18813113]

>>18813070
I hope this means he is writing TNG and it’s not for example dead

[Anonymous No.18813118]

>>18813113
Would a man really do that? Just give up on their lives' work?

[Anonymous No.18813123]

>when rape is illegal in real life

[Anonymous No.18813124]

>>18813070
If he's not dead or otherwise incapacitated, then maybe he decided to immerse himself in work, or one can at least hope for that. On other hand if he was constantly in public eye doing various irrelevant shit, that would have made it certain how bad situation it

[Anonymous No.18813125]

>>18813118
Do NOT give me hope. The dread from the No-God encompasses me.

[Anonymous No.18813141]

The fucking state of that thread

[Anonymous No.18813143]

>>18813058
He had a major falling out with his publisher and didn't have an editor for his last two books (which shows). His books are now out of print and slowly disappear from the market as the last stock is sold.

He got into a fight with some feminist about his problematic portrayal of women (which is not any worse than what you see in your average beloved YA novel but I guess people hold him to higher standards than the morons who write those books). The outcome was bitterness on his side and a massive loss if prestige in the eyes of the fantasy community.

I also read he sperged out at his fanbase, but I don't know the details of that. He left the internet before I started to read his books.

From his writings and general behaviour it's clear that he's a deeply troubled and insecure person who can't cope with criticism of any kind, which is somewhat surprising considering how insightful his characterisation is.

[Anonymous No.18813148]

>>18811775
Thanks for the rec, the book has so far been enjoyable. Looking forward to more of her work.

[Anonymous No.18813156]

>>18813143
>Strong in intellect, but weak in spirit.

[Anonymous No.18813162]

>when the book doesn't have gay rape anal style with fat throbbing cocks

[Anonymous No.18813169]

>>18813143
He should just make a Patreon. He'd probably get more money that way anyway.

[Anonymous No.18813179]

>>18813169
His ego won't let him. He's an Akka that thinks he's part Khellus.

[Anonymous No.18813180]

recommend books with gay anal sex

[Anonymous No.18813184]

>>18813180
The Second Apocalypse by R. Scott Bakker

[Anonymous No.18813185]

>>18813180
The Darkness That Cooms Before

[Anonymous No.18813192]

>>18813180
120 Days of Sodom by Marquis de Sade. It's technically science fiction.

[Anonymous No.18813193]

>>18813180
Disciple of The Cock

[Anonymous No.18813201]

>>18813180
The Unholy Cock and Balls

[Anonymous No.18813207]

>I love when books use gay rape to show how based it is

[Anonymous No.18813237]

>>18813179
>His ego won't let him. He's an Akka that thinks he's part Khellus.
Ironic considering Kellhus didn't seem to have any ego at all for majority of the story, just single-minded focus on what he had to do, and started expressing one only at the very end when he went through trouble of recovering his wife whom he originally intended to throw under the bus exactly like millions of other people.

[Anonymous No.18813337]

A reminder that Bakker is a literal p-zombie

[Anonymous No.18813368]

Dont forget, you can check here
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/comments/9nb57j/sexual_violence_in_sff_database_introduction_and/
If you really want to avoid sexual violence in sff books

[Anonymous No.18813376]

>>18813368
>I want my books WITH sexual violence

[Anonymous No.18813381]

>>18811438
Damn dude I wanted to read the first Drizzt trilogy again since it was what got me into fantasy like 15 years ago. Maybe I should just leave it alone and remember it for what it was to me at the time.

[Anonymous No.18813409]

>>18812817
i disagree, felt like he ran out of pages and told "hey you have to wrap it up in the next 3 pages GO"

[Anonymous No.18813421]

>>18813180
The Silmarillion

[Anonymous No.18813426]

>>18811914
I read the first books of it a few years ago. I found it pretty vanilla and boring. Does it get better? Would I be able to pick up the second or should I reread the first.

I enjoyed his first series even though yes it was a bit edgy in the beginning. But it was high T and that seems somehow kinda rare in the genre.

[Anonymous No.18813484]

>>18812797
You fuckers never told me this. I already started the first book reeeee

[Anonymous No.18813513]

>>18813484
wait till you find out the second book is nothing but gay sex and rape

[Anonymous No.18813567]

>>18813484
sorry anon
i try to spread the word about the books' incompleteness every time i'm here but due to a paranoid and autistic fear of spoilers, i only open this thread while i'm between books/series.

[Anonymous No.18813601]

>>18813567
>>18813484
It is not unfinished. It has an ending but all these autists screech because not everything is explained thoroughly. The first trilogy also has a decent ending.

Even if you see the ending as incomplete, reading the series is worth it.

[Anonymous No.18813630]

>>18813601
that's a cope anon. i'm sorry. i like bakker, but that's a cope. there would be no controversy and no need for insults, arguments and repartee if it was actually finished in actuality.

[Anonymous No.18813646]

These days I've just been reading comics, I feel like I haven't found anything that really grabbed me since the Dahak Trilogy.

I'm so bored bros.

[Anonymous No.18813668]

>>18813646
Read pic related when the translation releases in two weeks.

[Anonymous No.18813782]

>For me? It's R Scott Bakker. Intelligent, Nihilistic and with a Wicked Sense of Humor.

[Anonymous No.18813994]

>Lost count of how many weeks it is since the release of Miles/Christian Cameron's new books and still not on mobilism or b.ok
I dont buy books but fuck me it must be 6/7 weeks by now.

[Anonymous No.18814104]

>>18813994
so just buy and upload them yourself for once. or stop trying to read books so obscure nobody even pirates them

[Anonymous No.18814157]

>>18813668
no

[Anonymous No.18814310]

>>18813782
>>18813376
>>18813207
>>18813162
>>18813109
>>18813018
>>18813004
>>18812967
>>18812777
>>18812756
Likely obsessive samefag.
Rent fucking free, nigger.

[Anonymous No.18814324]

Give me your best audiobooks to listen while biking. Already did malazan and WOT.

[Anonymous No.18814351]

>>18814324
I can't listen to audiobooks or even music while I'm biking, I get too paranoid about paying attention to traffic. Plus the wind and engine noise would drown it all out anyway.

[Anonymous No.18814390]

Do Bakker books really have gay rape?

[Anonymous No.18814397]

>>18814351
I only do it when I'm biking on the hometrainer.

[Anonymous No.18814436]

>>18814390
Yes, rape in general is thematic to his oeuvre.

[Anonymous No.18814466]

>>18814397
Two instances of gay man on boy rape in the first 3 chapters. Dude is damaged.

[Anonymous No.18814490]

>>18814466
I don’t understand how making a critique against the Catholic Church makes him damaged.

[Anonymous No.18814627]

>>18813668
What's it about?

[Anonymous No.18814652]

>>18811375
Only if she's actually a dragon. Miss me with that "human form" shit.

[Anonymous No.18814658]

>>18814627
https://press.jastusa.com/full-metal-daemon-muramasa

[Anonymous No.18814676]

>>18814490
Child sexual assault is something like 5-10x more likely to occur in the public school system than the Catholic Church. You’ve been lied to your entire life. The state is the enemy of the people. I’ve never read Bakker tho, seems kinda gay.

[Anonymous No.18814687]

>>18814676
Sounds like the kind of thing a Catholic would say.

[Anonymous No.18814688]

>>18814658
>Since time immemorial, warriors called musha have ruled the battlefield, granted supernatural power by their enchanted suits of armor - tsurugi.

>Minato Kageaki is one such musha, driven by duty to don his crimson armor and challenge the greatest evils of an age. But though madmen and tyrants fall to his blade, never will he claim that his battle is right.

>For the tsurugi he wields is cursed Muramasa, which five centuries ago brought ruin to the land, and innocent blood is the price it demands in exchange for its terrible might.

>"Where there are demons, I slay them. Where there are saints, I slay them."

>These words are an oath, the unbreakable Law binding him to his armor. But they also tell the story of his past, and of the future to come.

Alright, I'll buy this. The art is decent as well.

[Anonymous No.18814707]

>>18814688
The soundtrack is good, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kqUZnh683w

[Anonymous No.18814714]

>>18814687
I’m not even catholic, nor do I support the Catholic Church (it’s origins are literally fake, the Eastern Orthodox Church is the “true” heir of Peter). I just know who my enemies are.

[Anonymous No.18814735]

>>18814714
The point where you start defending an organization that hides pedophilia you have taken a few steps too many down the wrong path.

[Anonymous No.18814740]

>>18814676
You would know.

[Anonymous No.18814742]

>>18814707
An impressive song

[Anonymous No.18814776]

>>18814688
Hopefully it doesn't cost too much. It's long as fuck and took several years to translate.

[Anonymous No.18814787]

>>18814735
>>18814740
>t. Public school teachers

[Anonymous No.18814797]

>>18814787
I see, so it's okay for you guys to do it if the other guys do it too.

[Anonymous No.18814801]

>>18814776
I just hope the translation is good.

[Anonymous No.18814835]

>>18814801
It's by Makoto, who is the best translator working in the VN industry. The author wrote another game, Hanachirasu, which is kind of like a prototype for Muramasa. Makoto translated that as well, so you can check it out if you want. He also translated Saya no Uta and Kikokugai.

[Anonymous No.18814854]

>>18814787
We accept your defeat.

[Anonymous No.18814931]

>>18813782
Lol

[Anonymous No.18814938]

Bakker more like gay rape

[Anonymous No.18814945]

>>18814938
Bakker more like back dat ass up

[Anonymous No.18814971]

I liked when Cnaiur woke up after ass-raping Conphas and had shit on his cock.

[Anonymous No.18814974]

>>18814945
Lol, Bakker more like back at it again with that gay rape

[Anonymous No.18815001]

>>18814735
I don’t defend them. They’re evil. But the state is far worse.

[Anonymous No.18815002]

I like it when Gay scat

[Anonymous No.18815022]

Newfag here, and just finished pic related. what’s the consensus on this board?

[Anonymous No.18815071]

>>18815022
First half is great but second one is just horrible. How the fuck would you even go from multiple different well developed character stories interacting with each other and converging into single picture to some basic premise of cardboard self insert protag chasing after his mary sue anime waifu. It feels like he might have outsourced second half to someone.

[Anonymous No.18815074]

>Sanderson
>Rothfuss
>Bakker
>Martin
>Abercrombie
>Tolkien

[Anonymous No.18815099]

>/sffg/ – Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.18815112]

>/sffag/ - Science Fiction, Fantasy, and Anime General

[Anonymous No.18815128]

>>18815112
No.

[Anonymous No.18815140]

>>18815112
Based

[Anonymous No.18815142]

>>18815128
>/sffagboi/ - Science Fiction, Fantasy, Anime, Genre, Bakker, Onions, and Isekai General

[Anonymous No.18815157]

>>18813143
He used to come here and post sometimes but it seems his fragile ego got filtered by the bantz and he left. Shame, his posts were pretty high quality.

[Anonymous No.18815310]

>>18814104
>so just buy and upload them yourself for once. or stop trying to read books so obscure nobody even pirates them
I cant on principle.

[Anonymous No.18815317]

>>18815310
Then stop bitching about it.

[Anonymous No.18815338]

>>18815317
No.

[Anonymous No.18815408]

What's the problem with buying books from a living author, exactly?

[Anonymous No.18815426]

>>18815408
I prefer a book store or Amazon.

[Anonymous No.18815746]

Did any of you read red rising?

[Anonymous No.18815803]

>>18815746
Yes, several people mentioned they have.

[Anonymous No.18815807]

>>18815746
There are posts about it at the end of the last thread.

[Anonymous No.18815822]

>>18811141

So, I saw this thread.
>>18810375
I did a reverse image search, as shown in this post >>18815742
Which led to
https://twitter.com/theSPSFC/status/1422433557109043200
and from there to
https://hughhowey.com/the-spsfc-begins/

Hugh Howey is doing the sci-fi version of "Mark Lawrence has been organizing a contest known as the Self-Published Fantasy Blog-Off." I don't really either author's works really, but it's a nice thing to do.

The pie includes a lot. There's even LitRPG and Cultivation. I assume those are going to be filtered, the word he uses, very quickly by the reviewers as the go through their assigned slush piles.

[Anonymous No.18815928]

>>18815822
>no sword and sorcery
kill yourself faggot

[Anonymous No.18815959]

>>18813782
Based samefag triggering the bakker trannys

[Anonymous No.18815998]

>>18815822
>tons of hair splitting for different sci-fi genres
>just "fantasy"

[Anonymous No.18816001]

>>18815822
>>18815928
Yeah how does it literally not have any S&S?

[Anonymous No.18816020]

>>18815822
How is it that the gay shit slice doesn't take up the entire pie?

[Anonymous No.18816052]

Is there a market for just writing a book that is all worldbuilding? A sort of encyclopedia thing but it's written in a way like Herodotus and stuff so it can have an unreliable narrator thing going on?

[Anonymous No.18816067]

>>18816052
People only care about worldbuilding when it's either their world or the world of stories they've somehow gotten invested in.

[Anonymous No.18816113]

El Semielfo...

[Anonymous No.18816210]

So I started Dune on Friday and today I got through to God Emperor of Dune

Are there any other books that are like this series? I don't care the setting whether its sci fi or fantasy.

[Anonymous No.18816284]

>>18816210
Isn't that like a million words reaf in a weekend? Were you up all night on meth?

[Anonymous No.18816300]

>>18816284
>Were you up all night on meth?

I have excessive daytime sleepiness, I've recently been prescribed a pseudo stimulant called sunosi, so in a way yes.

I also haven't been able to read anything for years because of my issue, as I would doze off trying to read anything, so now I actually feel capable of reading stuff and im catching up on shit I couldn't read before.

[Anonymous No.18816336]

>>18816300
That’s awesome dude congrats.

[Anonymous No.18816356]

what the fuck did americans do to this general

[Anonymous No.18816387]

>>18816300
Wow that's life changing man, congrats! Definitely look into vitamin D too if haven't already, Mercola had some stuff on that which helped someone in my family a lot.

In terms of Dune level length/worldbuilding which is what I assume you mean by Dune-like, I would consider Game of Thrones even though it's cool to bash it now and Martin's fat ass is gonna die without finishing it, it's still a damn fun ride.

[Anonymous No.18816472]

>is better than la morte de arthur

[Anonymous No.18816532]

>>18811141
Is the Cosmere worth reading?

[Anonymous No.18816549]

>>18816532
Yes

[Anonymous No.18816649]

>>18816532
No. It’s trash, unironically.

[Anonymous No.18816655]

>>18816532
Yeah, its pretty alright.

[Anonymous No.18816659]

>>18816052
That is literally what the entire mainstream market is. Why do you think that faggot Sanderson is so popular? Autistic Mormon world-building that retards lap up like it's cat nip.

[Anonymous No.18816662]

>>18815822
This pie chart sums up everything wrong with literary fiction.

[Anonymous No.18816717]

I don’t get the end of Bakker or what the fuck happened but I enjoyed it anyway - what I think happened is

>other Dunyain plan to kill everyone so no souls to feed to the gods - starve gods out then no one goes to hell (except almost everyone that’s ever lived beforehand)

>big dick Kellhus thinks nah I’ll just mog the gods but maybe becomes possessed by one?

> Cnair does so much evil shit in his life he is now a living embodiment of hell and likely will enjoy his time there

Is that right?

Dunno what the fuck to read next just finished a Lonesome Night in October was good, maybe Riryia Revelations for some comfy bromance

[Anonymous No.18816750]

It's the same fucking question every fucking thread.

[Anonymous No.18816795]

>wheel of time
Is it worth getting in to? A series that long seems pretty daunting.

[Anonymous No.18816815]

>>18816795
Yes

[Anonymous No.18816841]

Is any of this chink shit actually good? I mean for fantasy novel standards.

[Anonymous No.18816847]

>>18816841
It's pretty so and so, but you'll be entertain by it.

[Anonymous No.18816871]

>>18816847
>you'll be entertain
The "grammar" speaks for itself. Typical LN "prose" is similarly machine-translated, nigh-illegible garbage. I have yet to see a chinkshit posted here with anything resembling quality prose.

[Anonymous No.18816881]

>>18816795
>>18816841
>>18816532
No.

[Anonymous No.18816893]

>>18816871
Way of Choices

[Anonymous No.18816933]

>>18816532
It’s horrible.

[Anonymous No.18816936]

>>18816532
YA trash.

[Anonymous No.18816945]

>>18816532
Yeah, it's worth reading.

[Anonymous No.18816951]

>>18816532
Read Bakker instead.

[Anonymous No.18816961]

>>18816655
>>18816945
It’s so easy to detect your same fag posts.

[Anonymous No.18816990]

>>18816532
Yeah, it is, I enjoyed reading it. Was thinking of getting Arcanum Unbounded: The cosmere collection.

[Anonymous No.18817006]

books with girlfriends

[Anonymous No.18817013]

>>18816532
It’s on the same level of the Twilight novels.

[Anonymous No.18817023]

>>18816532
Is it worth spending hundreds of dollars on boring never ending interlocking stories filled with fodder for the sake of it? Not worth your time, even if you’re into young adult shit.

[Anonymous No.18817024]

>>18816532
Yeah, it’s great, it even filtered out retards.

[Anonymous No.18817032]

>>18817024
How so?

[Anonymous No.18817034]

>>18816532
Yeah, if you’re into plot holes.

[Anonymous No.18817059]

>>18816532
Yeah, if you got filtered by Bakker.

[Anonymous No.18817138]

Is this Game of Thrones but better?

[Anonymous No.18817170]

>>18815022
The first two are honestly my highest recommendations for getting into Sci Fi. There's just so much cool shit in it. The second two go way off the rails, and not in a good way.

[Anonymous No.18817185]

/sffg/, I had an idea for a comedic fantasy/horror novel that feels like a mel brooks movie

Vic Frankenstein is a beleaguered jewish med school student who can't catch a break. The hours are endless, his patients keep dying, he hasn't slept in a week, he doesn't have the looks or time for dating, and his mother won't stop nagging him to finish his degree and get give her some grandchildren. However, when his mother is given a year to live, Vic snaps and assembles a bride for himself out of bodies in the morgue. It's only as she comes to life that he realizes he's created something far worse than a monster he's created his mother

[Anonymous No.18817186]

>>18816472
Just finished the second part of this. Does it pick up? I'm a fan of the tone and themes but the second part was quite confusing to me.

[Anonymous No.18817205]

>>18817034
There is literally none

[Anonymous No.18817315]

>>18817205
This

[Anonymous No.18817321]

>>18817205
Wrong.

[Anonymous No.18817329]

>>18817205
>Implying an ESL like you knows.
I like Sanderson, and you’re wrong.

[Anonymous No.18817455]

>>18817321
>>18817329
Examples??

[Anonymous No.18817473]

>>18817329
Sanderson is transalted to a plethora of languages, including mine.

[Anonymous No.18817520]

Cringe.

[Anonymous No.18817525]

>>18817473
Now we know why Bakker filtered you.

[Anonymous No.18817534]

>>18817473
>reading translations
NGMI

[Anonymous No.18817541]

>Sanderson
We Reddit now.

[Anonymous No.18817547]

>>18817525
Bakker is translated to spanish chud

[Anonymous No.18817564]

>>18817547
Didn’t know that “Spanish Chud” was a language. Is that retarded Spanish for people like you?

[Anonymous No.18817570]

>>18817564
Kek

[Anonymous No.18817608]

put that frickin' Bakker book down right now

[Anonymous No.18817617]

>>18817473
You have your own language?

[Anonymous No.18817623]

>>18817564
Si.

[Anonymous No.18817627]

>>18817617
Si.

[Anonymous No.18817659]

>Samefag seethe-posts about Bakker ~40 times in a row.
>Suddenly Sanderson is being discussed.
Pottery.

[Anonymous No.18817664]

>>18817185
kek. I bet Danny deVito would make a Netflix outta that if someone ran it by him. The MC would have to be Tyrese Frankenson though.

[Anonymous No.18817684]

>>18816717
kellhus's plan was to go there and be possessed by ajokli so he could btfo the 100 skin spies with chorae he otherwise would have been mogged by but his retard son distracted him and got him killed

then ajokli was pissed off and possessed gnauir

[Anonymous No.18817694]

>>18817659
This.

[Anonymous No.18817723]

>>18817684
>>18816717
I finished TUC today and I have to say that the ending as not satisfying as other people seemed to claim here. Not because of what happened, but clearly because this is not the intended to be the last book. A lot of loose ends.

I can only hope that we see the rest of the books.

[Anonymous No.18817742]

>>18817623
The affirmative answer in Spanish is written "sí". Without the accent mark, what you're using is a conditional conjunction equivalent to the English "if". I would have given you a pass on reading translations but it seems you don't even have a proper grasp on your own language.

[Anonymous No.18817748]

>>18817627
>>18817742

[Anonymous No.18817749]

>>18817742
Sandersoys absolutely and irrevocably BTFO

[Anonymous No.18817790]

>>18817742
You guys dont even have tildes wtf

[Anonymous No.18817796]

>>18817790
We accept your surrender.

[Anonymous No.18817861]

>>18817796
Yeah bro, you totally "destroyed" me, and "won" this 4channel discussion

[Anonymous No.18817877]

>>18817861
Yes.

[Anonymous No.18817885]

>>18817861
Cope

[Anonymous No.18817943]

>>18817877
Thats what i said

[Anonymous No.18817951]

>>18817885
I admited my "deafeat"

[Anonymous No.18817991]

>>18812953
the world famous canadian wines

[Anonymous No.18818039]

>>18817991
icewine is good shit

[Anonymous No.18818090]

[Anonymous No.18818111]

please just

[Anonymous No.18818165]

>>18817659
Yes, after Bakkerfags get told to fuck off enough times they switch to posting about Sanderson because they have autism and can't understand they're both shit.

[Anonymous No.18818550]

So do any of these brorotica authors actually go the full distance and have sister/mother characters?

[Anonymous No.18818628]

>>18816841
Reverend insanity and legend of the great sage are good. The rest is all mostly shit though.

[Anonymous No.18818684]

>>18818550
You talking about incest?

[Anonymous No.18818690]

>>18818684
Of course anon is. Those books are all full of "step-mom" and "step-sis" probably for the same reasons the porn sites are. To comply with some US laws or regulations.

[Anonymous No.18818708]

>>18818690
Pretty sure incest in books aren't subject to laws? Outside of Sellers like amazon refusing to house them.

[Anonymous No.18818724]

Why does Bakker cause so much butthurt here? Just started the first book the other day

[Anonymous No.18818727]

>>18818708
It also doesn’t make sense since fantasy has some incest relationship. Not to mention the amount of incest there is in literary fiction.

[Anonymous No.18818732]

>>18818727
>fantasy
Several fantasy series have incest relationship.

[Anonymous No.18818747]

>>18818708
> Amazon
That's what I meant by regulations. Smut is fine with them but they won't sell stuff like incest, bestiality etc.

[Anonymous No.18818751]

>>18818747
I mean, you can get a small publishing company to do it for you, or you can just make your own website to house it, or use royal road, though I don't know their TOS.

[Anonymous No.18818761]

>>18818747
They have a thing about it being portrayed in a positive light.

[Anonymous No.18818766]

>>18818747
Pretty sure they’ve even starting restricting racial porn.

[Anonymous No.18818780]

>>18818761
Explain because I'm confused as fuck.

[Anonymous No.18818788]

>>18818747
That shit is so hypocritical, I don’t know why people even tolerate that shit when there’s websites that are willing to host smut stories like literotica.

[Anonymous No.18818793]

>>18818780
>>18818788
They are a business. The do not want stories in the media about them selling incest porn featuring 14 year olds.

[Anonymous No.18818797]

>>18818793
Pretty sure all the smut on Amazon are 18 and above, so I don't know why they can't do the same with the incest.

[Anonymous No.18818801]

>>18818793
Pretty sure no site, even normal smut sites allow underage shit, so I don’t know why you brought it up.

[Anonymous No.18818806]

>>18818793
>incest porn featuring 14 year olds.
Nigger, ain't no one here wants that. what's wrong with two grown as adults, that are related, to have sex? Shit, Amazon allows worse like rape and yet they don't allow incest?

[Anonymous No.18818814]

>>18818788
>literotica
I actually know a few authors from literotica that went to amazon. Don't know if they're successful, since I stumble on two of them by complete accident.

[Anonymous No.18818815]

>>18812744
yeah the spells thing jumped out at me
and books two and 3 would be the cugel saga, i thought they were the most entertaining too. cugel is a hilarious character. the last book was also good. idk if you'll enjoy them as much if the samey structure bothers you though. good thing about these books is you can drop them and pick them up at any time, it's not really a plotfag series

[Anonymous No.18818817]

>>18818801
Some comics site do, but we ignore those.

[Anonymous No.18818818]

>>18818806
> what's wrong with two grown as adults, that are related, to have sex?
bruh there is something you need to know ...

[Anonymous No.18818821]

>>18818815
>jumped out at me
at me too*

[Anonymous No.18818823]

>>18818818
If they allow young women and older male, they can allow incest.

[Anonymous No.18818829]

>>18818823
The creepy part is that those stories is that the men groom the women.

[Anonymous No.18818833]

>>18818818
It’s fictional, and not reality.

[Anonymous No.18818835]

>>18818724
He filters women, jews and sandersois, and those demographics make up ninety percent of /lit/

[Anonymous No.18818841]

New thread
>>18818837

[Anonymous No.18818843]

>>18818806
Hows it going Chris? Do they allow you to post from jail?