Grammar

[Anonymous No.18797780]

How do you attain a grammar akin to perfection ?

[Anonymous No.18797804]

to some extent, grammar is an opinion. what's more important is being understood.

[Anonymous No.18797816]

>>18797804
>to some extent, grammar is an opinion.
This. Language changes.
Perfection today was not perfection 100 years ago, and will not be perfection 100 years from now.

[Anonymous No.18797826]

Treating grammar dogmatically, especially when used for literative purposes, is retarded

[Anonymous No.18797831]

use comes first, the rules come later
now, because i am a free thinker i ultimately base my grammar rules on my language use, and deny the authority of any other grammar rule proposals, which makes me infallible, and any-else that who deny me wrong

[Anonymous No.18797832]

it's embarrassing when people discuss English grammar as if it's some complex system. all the languages I looked into except chinese and creoles have more morphological changes than English

[Anonymous No.18797841]

Grammar be for nazis tho

[Anonymous No.18797846]

>>18797831
Just don't write like this fggot and you're good

[Anonymous No.18797849]

>>18797780
Purchase any book on English grammar, turn it into a fine powder and administer orally

[Anonymous No.18797858]

>>18797780
The goal is to be understood unless you want to be a pseud like 95% of the writers here then just write whatever but nobody cares about grammar except 3rd grade teachers

[Anonymous No.18797893]

>>18797780
Schooling in the 18th-19th ce relied on Latin and ancient Greek to teach people their native languages' grammar via parsing and translation. If you want to learn English grammar, get Wheelock's and start memorizing grammatical jargon and do the translation exercises.
Besides that, get a simple grammar book, memorize the concepts and start labeling grammatical concepts in older texts in English, e.g. before the 20th ce when writing was held at a higher standard.
Also, make sure you learn the principle parts of verbs. An example, take the verb to sing. Its simple past form is sang and its past participle is sung. Many native speakers fumble this concept and output barbarous constructions like I had sang or I sung. To drink is another tricky one that native speakers fuck up all them.

[Anonymous No.18797941]

>>18797858
>The goal is to be understood unless you want to be a pseud like 95% of the writers here then just write whatever but nobody cares about grammar except 3rd grade teachers
Jease man your shits all retarded. Grammar aside, this is plain illogical. In your eyes, to write like a pseud is the same as writing to be understood, which is to write with no mind paid to grammatical correctness because no one cares? That or you are claiming that proper grammar is easier to understand. If the latter, why did you write it without caring about grammar? Implying yourself a pseud bro?

[Anonymous No.18798027]

>>18797780
Just read more and then still some more. You don't learn grammar through exercises.
https://sci-hub.do/10.1111/j.1944-9720.2003.tb02123.x

[Anonymous No.18798045]

>>18797832
Morphology is not the only type of grammar.

[Anonymous No.18798089]

>>18797832
> I looked into except chinese and creoles have more morphological changes than English
>anon learning simplified Chinese and mandarin because everyone has to know those
>cannot read anything in Sichuan or parts of Canton

[Anonymous No.18798316]

>>18798089
I'm pretty sure the Sinitic languages in general are highly isolating/analytic.

[Anonymous No.18798333]

>>18798045
Morphology is a part of grammar, not a type of grammar. You might be dumber than the anon you replied too.

[Anonymous No.18798344]

>>18798333
I worded that poorly but you know what I mean. Morphological complexity is not the only type of grammatical complexity.

[Anonymous No.18798351]

>>18797780
Learn Latin. My grammar skills have increased a lot since I began to learn it. It will force you to learn grammatical concepts that can very easibly carried over to English.
Learning grammar on its own will make you want to kill yourself, however, if you get forced to learn it by learning another language, you'll develop those skills naturally.

[Anonymous No.18798360]

>>18798344
I did not know what you meant. I have been here long enough to know it is generally safer to assume stupid. You mostly redeemed yourself.

>>18798351
>Learning grammar on its own will make you want to kill yourself
That is nonsense, you are assuming everyone is like you.

[Anonymous No.18798376]

>>18798360
>That is nonsense, you are assuming everyone is like you.
Thank you for pointing that out, I realise I still have much work to do.

[Anonymous No.18798409]

>>18797804
>>18797816
Extremely based functionalist chads.

I dab on stilted, pedantic retards.

[Anonymous No.18798415]

>>18798360
Not absolutely everyone is like them, but in general one will not only have a more pleasant time but also understand better if one learns grammar with practical examples in use and not just as abstract principles.

[Anonymous No.18798422]

>>18797849
That's a good one, or turn it into fine powder and apply it to one's hands like chalk before writing.

[Anonymous No.18798428]

>>18798415
Show me one grammar book that lacks practical examples. Grammars which are meant for learning from are mostly examples and exercises, the reference sort of grammar is autistic with examples.

[Anonymous No.18798460]

>>18798415
Christ, just realized you are talking about learning grammar from a linguistics book, that is just idiotic, linguistics books assume you already have a good grasp on grammar.

[Anonymous No.18799339]

>>18797893
>>18798027
>>18798351
latin it is