Just finished the dialogues

[Anonymous No.18768511]

Holy shit this guy is the epitome of "*refuses to elaborate further*"

[Anonymous No.18768516]

>>18768511
You haven't read all of the dialogues.

[Anonymous No.18768526]

>>18768516
what do you mean "ALL" of the dialogues?

[Anonymous No.18768554]

>>18768511
Ah yes, the Socratic method, famous for having been built on a foundation of out-and-out explanations of a position

[Anonymous No.18768648]

>>18768511
I doubt you even got through Euthyprho

[Anonymous No.18768696]

>>18768511
Wow, are you an intellectual, OP?

[Anonymous No.18768701]

>>18768511
Literally the exact opposite though

[Anonymous No.18768723]

>>18768511
I think you meant Socrates.

[Anonymous No.18768736]

>>18768696
>Wow, are you an intellectual, OP?
Not really, wouldn't consider myself one.
>>18768648
>I doubt you even got through Euthyprho
I did. Same thing. No further elaboration.
>>18768723
????

[Anonymous No.18768739]

>>18768736
>Not really, wouldn't consider myself one.
That's why you read Plato.

[Anonymous No.18768742]

>>18768739

[Anonymous No.18768762]

>>18768739
Based oldfag.

[Anonymous No.18768777]

>>18768762
>>18768742
pls explain to me, a newfag.
(i've been on /lit/ for four years)

[Anonymous No.18768781]

His dialogues are like commercials for the Academy. No shit you're not getting his actual teachings for free. Or ever, for that matter, unless you try to piece it together from Plotinus.

[Anonymous No.18768881]

>>18768511
>he hasn't read the middle and late dialogues
The early dialogues are all intended to end without resolution.

[Anonymous No.18768914]

>>18768739
Never knew whether that guy meant if one is reading plato they arent an intellectual because plato should be nearer the start of ones reading or if he simply meant reading plato at all is for brainlets. If he meant the latter than i would have liked to know what this self proclaimed intellectual considers a ‘true’ intellectual’s philosopher.

[Anonymous No.18769381]

>>18768781
>to piece it together from Plotinus.
Best Plotinus to begin with?

[Anonymous No.18769409]

>>18768881
>intended to end without resolution.
Because it's main purpose is to be a filter. Plato isn't the only one who does this. Hell even uncle Nabby mastered the art of "refuses to elaborate further" while making it seems like elaborating.

[Anonymous No.18769426]

>>18768914
>what this self proclaimed intellectual considers a ‘true’ intellectual’s philosopher.
Yes, it was the later. He attained true enlightenment and realized that true philosophers only read their own work.

[Anonymous No.18769486]

>>18768739
dumbnigger hands typed this

[Anonymous No.18769524]

>>18768739
Based Gigachad hands typed this

[Anonymous No.18769585]

>>18769381
Porphyry (Plotinus' disciple and editor) ordered his tractates into the Enneads. Read from start to back.

[Anonymous No.18769597]

>>18768511
Probably because it was left as an exercise to the reader. Philosophy is an active endeavor, you won't learn it by simply reading and watching other people do it in front of you.

[Anonymous No.18769655]

>>18769585
Is this one the one you're talking about? seems to be a good deal of plotinus in amazon, I'll check the strand when I get a change too.
https://www.amazon.com/Plotinus-Enneads-Lloyd-P-Gerson/dp/1108712428/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=porphyry+enneads&qid=1627929053&sr=8-5

[Anonymous No.18769689]

>>18768739
kek

[Anonymous No.18769726]

>>18768739
indubitably based.

[Anonymous No.18770145]

>>18768511
Philosophy is aporistical. Google Thaumazein.

[Anonymous No.18770423]

>>18770145
That just sounds like Renaissance humanism.

[Anonymous No.18770510]

>>18770145
>Thaumazein.
so what you're telling me is that I'll begin to see true knowledge once I stop being a poorfag? seems legit.

[Anonymous No.18770531]

>>18768511
What did you think of Parmenides, especially the second part?

[Anonymous No.18770694]

>>18770531
>Parmenides, especially the second part?
Kinda confusing idk why I get the sense that Parm is just a big troll gatekeeper.

[Anonymous No.18770721]

>>18770694
I still don't understand the second part myself but it's the epitome of your refuse to elaborate point. I'm not even sure there's anything there.

[Anonymous No.18770768]

>>18770721
Exactly my thoughts. I feel like more than refusing to elaborate there's major gatekeeping going here. The whole dialogue is like one of those youtube ads where they want to share with you this ONE CRAZY SECRET to get women or to lose weight or whatever and then you realize that at the end of the video is just a page where you have to subscribe to some e-lecture from a guy talking out of his ass but at that point you can't get your money back. I feel like that's the message of the lecture itself and Socrates is well aware of that, he merely acts as an observer of the trolling, amused.

[Anonymous No.18770779]

>>18768739

[Anonymous No.18770900]

>>18768739
unfathomably based.

[Anonymous No.18772204]

>>18770510
>poorfag
Htf does that relate to Thaumazein?