/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.18766903]

>Start with....LE GREEKS xDDDDDDD

Literally why?

[Anonymous No.18766913]

>>18766903
ignore them, read something you are interested in

[Anonymous No.18766927]

>>18766903
because its more productive then wasting your life making these type of threads

[Anonymous No.18766957]

>>18766913
I already did that thoughie though tho
Is le heckin greekerino's just >install gentoo for /lit/?

[Anonymous No.18767491]

>>18766903
It's meme advice, like saying one should start with ancient music, when Baroque makes the best approach away from pop.

[Anonymous No.18767513]

>>18767491
The difference is later philosophers frequently reference or quote ancient philosophers, especially Greek ones. Therefore there is some value in being familiar with them. You don't need to read the entire extant corpus of ancient Greek philosophy though.

[Anonymous No.18767522]

>>18766913
This. But if you really wanted to read philosophy you sort of have to know what the greeks wrote. It is about getting familliar with the vocabulary, and understanding why and how those ideas evolved through times, what needs they were answering for etc. Then you can be a man of our time and figure out what should be their modern form. One of the most enjoyable parts you can start with is Aristotele's ideas around the matter of friendship.

[Anonymous No.18767526]

foundation

[Anonymous No.18767530]

What I think is funny is that people take it seriously and do it even if they have no interest in it.

[Anonymous No.18767602]

The bare minimum, and probably all most people probably need, is a cursory understanding of Greek mythology and history, and for people into philosophy a bit of Plato. A book like Edith Hamilton's Mythology is recommended often for this purpose, it covers a broad range of Greek myth accurately and quickly in a set of high quality readable retellings, which will allow you to at very least recognize their references by later authors. This is not to say you shouldn't go on to read more, because you should read Hamilton's book if nothing else.

[Anonymous No.18767675]

If you are really interested why, try reading TS Eliot's essay Tradition and the Individual Talent

[Anonymous No.18767692]

>>18766903
>start with whatever philosopher you like
>wtf??? why can't I understand anything he's saying???

[Anonymous No.18767712]

>>18767675
Cont. I guess the gist is there are aesthetic principles above mere subjectivity, but I don't know if there can be any real objectivity ascribed to them, or anything else for that matter. But in literature there is an objective standard, the ideal order, as Eliot puts it. That's basically the structure formes by texts which have succeeded to touch these aesthetic principles. It also sounds similar to what Bloom was talking about on the Canon.

Anyway, the point is you can't cultivate any real sense of what literature is actually bout without facing the Order, the Canon, which is synonymous with literature. Considering the chronological position Greeks have in the Western Canon, it seems reasonable to use them as the entry point

[Anonymous No.18767749]

Don't ask questions, just start with the Greeks, and then get exited for the Romans.

[Anonymous No.18767758]

>>18766903
Start with furry erotica

[Anonymous No.18767813]

start with hegel

[Anonymous No.18767882]

>start with hegel

[Anonymous No.18767888]

start with the italians

[Anonymous No.18767901]

>>18767491
Holy cope, wtf is this analogy? Bach is just about as digestible to normies as the Greeks are. It is not meme advice, otherwise what would you provide as an alternative?

[Anonymous No.18767904]

>>18767692
I've never had this problem
>>18767888
>

[Anonymous No.18767918]

>>18767904
Cope and kneel before my trips, filthy barbarian.

[Anonymous No.18767929]

Because nobody’s managed to beat them after all this time.

[Anonymous No.18767932]

maybe because nothing new has been invented since?

[Anonymous No.18767934]

>>18767888
This desu, also checked.

[Anonymous No.18768250]

>the daily cope thread from filtered brainlets
Always a treat to watch

[Anonymous No.18768263]

>>18767888
This, unironically.

[Anonymous No.18768374]

>>18766903
Start with the Hyperboreans

[Anonymous No.18768437]

>>18766903
I've read the iliad and odyssey in ancient greek and ~5 translations that /lit/ recommended. I've had multiple sexual (attractive) partners and am a multi-millionaire, btw.

[Anonymous No.18768468]

>>18766903
If you want to learn philosophy then you absolutely should start with the Greeks. It’s what I did and it’s what I tell everyone else to do as well. Whitehead wasn’t lying when he said that western philosophy is a series of footnotes to Plato. You need to understand how philosophy originally conceived of itself in the beginning in order to understand how it’s changed over time.

[Anonymous No.18768488]

>>18767904
You are either lying or you haven't read philosophy extensively unless perhaps you read history of philosophy.
Literally every philosopher references the Greeks and each other at some point in their works so most likely, many of their insights passed over your head

[Anonymous No.18768670]

>>18768374
Is the last one the official symbol for Hyperborea? Where do you got that from?
And what is the deer?

[Anonymous No.18768944]

>>18766957
do you unironically write like that? is it funny in your mind?

[Anonymous No.18768963]

>>18767888
BASADISSIMO

[Anonymous No.18768968]

>>18766903
Start with Harry Potter

[Anonymous No.18768996]

>>18766903
mediterraneans
now

[Anonymous No.18769297]

>>18768670
Last one represents the Monad. The second to last layer represents symbols of the Divine found in nature. The Deer is a symbol of nobility and power. Its not really relevant to hyperborea, I just posted it for memeing purposes