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Anonymous Fri Jul 30 23:37:21 2021 No.18753971 [Reply] [Original]

What is the absolute highest value?
Which /lit/ supports your opinion?

>>	࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !KNDY3cHnRY Fri Jul 30 23:47:10 2021 No.18754003 DEFINE: «VALUE».

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 23:51:39 2021 No.18754025 File: 297 KB, 1200x1200, Plato drawing.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18753971 The Good.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 23:52:40 2021 No.18754028 >>18753971 for humans it is the cycle of life. preserve it at all cost

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 23:53:06 2021 No.18754031 >>18753971 Gratefulness

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 00:02:22 2021 No.18754066 >>18754003 >VALUE a person's principles or standards of behavior; one's judgment of what is important in life.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 00:02:39 2021 No.18754068 File: 226 KB, 720x986, Evola.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ABSOLUTE POWER ABSOLUTE BEING ABSOLUTE CONSCIOUSNESS ABSOLUTE REALIZATION

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 00:03:31 2021 No.18754072 I don't have any values. I don't believe in made up spooks.

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS Sat Jul 31 00:05:37 2021 No.18754082 File: 1.08 MB, 1444x1452, B931EF6B-F095-4BD7-982E-622FCD0DC2BF.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18754025 The good life, yeah.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 00:06:01 2021 No.18754086 >>18754072 You value apathetic nihilism and being a special edgelord.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 00:44:00 2021 No.18754250 >>18754003 >DEFINE: «VALUE». That which one gives the greatest significance and importance in life.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 00:44:40 2021 No.18754256 >>18753971 Feet

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 00:46:01 2021 No.18754261 >>18754082 A good life requires the Good to be such. By stating that you just beg the question.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 00:46:32 2021 No.18754263 >>18753971 Fuck values, fuck good, fuck gratefulness, fuck power, fuck feet. It is all about chilling, anything else is how shit starts.

Anonymous Sat Jul 31 00:48:26 2021 No.18754276
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>>18754025
>"Form of the Good", or more literally "the idea of the good" (ἡ τοῦ ἀγαθοῦ ἰδέα) is a concept in the philosophy of Plato. It is described in Plato's dialogue the Republic (508e2–3), speaking through the character of Socrates. This form is the one that allows a philosopher-in-training to advance to a philosopher-king. It cannot be clearly seen or explained, but it is the form that allows one to realize all the other forms. The definition of the Good is a perfect, eternal, and changeless Form, existing outside space and time, in which particular good things share.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Form_of_the_Good

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 00:48:47 2021 No.18754281 >>18754263 To make my point, I just demonstrated the attitude of an 'unchill' person. And notice how shit suddenly seems present in the thread.

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS Sat Jul 31 01:11:28 2021 No.18754346 >>18754261 What abstraction are you trying to block a good life with here?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 01:12:48 2021 No.18754352 >>18753971 Has no one said virtue yet? Really?

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS Sat Jul 31 01:13:51 2021 No.18754356 >>18754352 Whats that? A car model?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 01:14:52 2021 No.18754361 >>18754356 A brand of toothpaste I think

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 01:14:58 2021 No.18754362 >>18754352 Is value and virtue synonymous?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 01:20:18 2021 No.18754393 >>18754362 Virtue is a pursuit, value is a belief or a principle

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 01:22:35 2021 No.18754404 >>18754393 Can you elaborate on this distinction?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 01:23:58 2021 No.18754414 >>18753971 A good Will.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 01:25:05 2021 No.18754418 >>18754404 No, I won’t. Read Aristotle

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 01:44:10 2021 No.18754499 >>18753971 A heart purified of sins and sinful habits. Only then can you begin to question what is the Highest Value and experience it yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 01:46:47 2021 No.18754511 >>18753971 well being put your hand on a stove and say im wrong

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 01:59:35 2021 No.18754559 File: 159 KB, 384x288, 544y464464646.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18754418 What does Aristotle say about it? I bet you dont even know.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 02:02:42 2021 No.18754571 >>18754559 Anons unironically expect to be fucking spoon fed shit. This is what ruins this board, FFS, read a page of wikipedia a day. If every anon did that, this board would be fucking great. Not even joking. Start with the fucking wikipedia.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 02:03:48 2021 No.18754579 >>18754571 I would rather post in a /wiki/ board where anons read the wikipedia, than in a /lit/ board that most people don't read shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 02:04:57 2021 No.18754583 >>18754559 Aren’t you ashamed of yourself? Too intellectually incurious to actually read a book yet willing to do this kind of posturing

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 02:12:23 2021 No.18754599 >>18754571 >>18754579 >>18754583 Just trying to have a conversation but I dont think you are worth having a conversation with, or you dont actually know.

Anonymous Sat Jul 31 02:14:42 2021 No.18754606

>>18754599
>>18754559 Doesn't look like. You are either acting like a obnoxious retard or expecting to be spoon fed shit. This isn't really a thing meant only to you, but that anon who 'got' Kant watching a meme video was kinda disturbing. Anons should at least bother watching a youtube video about things.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 02:17:50 2021 No.18754617 > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6AtffAYcKM

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 02:32:28 2021 No.18754659 >>18754606 >You are either acting like a obnoxious retard or expecting to be spoon fed shit. Both. If you are knowledgeable and dont want to convey what you know its possible to goad you into something interesting, either way I have nothing to lose.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 02:33:47 2021 No.18754664 >>18754659 >I have nothing to lose. Literally shitting on your plate.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 02:35:31 2021 No.18754672 >>18754664 You are wrong mate. Read Aristotle.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 02:37:58 2021 No.18754684 >>18754672 I'm not reading him, anon. The textbook version of him was enough to keep me away from it. But whatever, keep shitting on your plate. It is not like I want this shit hole to thrive either.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 02:38:43 2021 No.18754687 >>18754346 Read Siddhartha

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 02:56:15 2021 No.18754728 >>18754684 You are wrong again. The only one shitting on plates is you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 02:57:22 2021 No.18754731 >>18754003 Cum genius has joined the thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 02:59:06 2021 No.18754736 >>18754728 I never claimed that I don't come to this board to not shit post. You did: >>18754599 >>18754559 And thanks for making this board a shit hole.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 03:00:33 2021 No.18754739 >>18754736 As in, helping me out ruining this thread.

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS Sat Jul 31 03:01:09 2021 No.18754742 >>18754687 Good is good by definition.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 03:15:14 2021 No.18754781 >>18754739 You didn't ruin anything. Your posts are very informative, uplifting, and heart-warming. Even your shitposts cannot help but enlighten.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 03:18:28 2021 No.18754791 >>18754781 I didn't ruined everything yet. I have to make all anons leave first because otherwise this wouldn't make any sense.

Anonymous Sat Jul 31 03:42:29 2021 No.18754884

>>18754418
>For pleasure is a state of soul, and to each man that which he is said to be a lover of is pleasant; e.g. not only is a horse pleasant to the lover of horses, and a spectacle to the lover of sights, but also in the same way just acts are pleasant to the lover of justice and in general virtuous acts to the lover of virtue. Now for most men their pleasures are in conflict with one another because these are not by nature pleasant, but the lovers of what is noble find pleasant the things that are by nature pleasant; and virtuous actions are such, so that these are pleasant for such men as well as in their own nature. Their life, therefore, has no further need of pleasure as a sort of adventitious charm, but has its pleasure in itself. For, besides what we have said, the man who does not rejoice in noble actions is not even good; since no one would call a man just who did not enjoy acting justly, nor any man liberal who did not enjoy liberal actions; and similarly in all other cases. If this is so, virtuous actions must be in themselves pleasant. But they are also good and noble, and have each of these attributes in the highest degree, since the good man judges well about these attributes; his judgement is such as we have described. Happiness then is the best, noblest, and most pleasant thing in the world, and these attributes are not severed as in the inscription at Delos-

>Most noble is that which is justest, and best is health;
>But pleasantest is it to win what we love.

>For all these properties belong to the best activities; and these, or one- the best- of these, we identify with happiness.

http://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/nicomachaen.1.i.html

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 03:44:04 2021 No.18754893 >>18754261 A good life is just a virtuous life

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 03:46:26 2021 No.18754901 File: 74 KB, 1280x720, stirner.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >What is the absolute highest value? Whatever I say it is. >Which /lit/ supports your opinion? The Ego and Its Own - Max Stirner

Anonymous Sat Jul 31 04:08:32 2021 No.18754973

>>18754418
>Virtue, then, is a state of character concerned with choice, lying in a mean, i.e. the mean relative to us, this being determined by a rational principle, and by that principle by which the man of practical wisdom would determine it. Now it is a mean between two vices, that which depends on excess and that which depends on defect; and again it is a mean because the vices respectively fall short of or exceed what is right in both passions and actions, while virtue both finds and chooses that which is intermediate. Hence in respect of its substance and the definition which states its essence virtue is a mean, with regard to what is best and right an extreme.
http://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/nicomachaen.2.ii.html

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 04:10:24 2021 No.18754984 >>18754973 So he's right, virtue is a pursuit (or a "choice"). >this being determined by a rational principle Which is the principle or belief that the other poster spoke of.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 10:41:22 2021 No.18756308 Justice

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 10:48:20 2021 No.18756347 >>18754984 The person saying that virtue is a pursuit and that values are belief was the same poster >>18754393

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 31 10:50:35 2021 No.18756356 >>18753971 Truth.

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