[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/lit/ - Literature

View post   
File: 13 KB, 207x300, The_Flight_to_Lucifer.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18741647 No.18741647 [Reply] [Original]

Wait what the fuck, Bloom wrote genre fiction? And it was bad?

>> No.18741653

What's a critic but a failed novelist.

>> No.18741714

>>18741647
Bump.

>> No.18741716

As the saying goes: "Those who can't do, teach."

>> No.18741940

>>18741647
I wonder if he told himself it was secretly brilliant and that everyone else was just too stupid for it

>> No.18741943

I actually had to read Flight to Lucifer for a fantasy course I took in college. The day we were scheduled to discuss it the professor's first question was, 'OK, now, how is Bloom's novel different from the fantasy novels what we've read so far?' A bunch of people raised their hand and answered but none of them seemed to be saying what the professor had in mind. He kept saying, 'Yeah, what else?' Finally nobody had anything to say and he waited a few seconds before saying, 'Well, let me phrase it another way. Was there something in Bloom's novel that eluded you?' Silence. 'Something, perhaps, that you would have liked to see, but didn't? Something that was either absent, or hard to detect?' Ah, of course! My hand shot up. 'Yes, Anon.' 'Talent,' I said, 'There was no discernible talent!' The professor and I broke out into hysterical laughter. 'You couldn't discern any talent!' 'None!' he shouted and started rolling around on his desk like a turtle on its back. My face was red and I was wiping away tears. We laughed for about five minutes before it died down to nothing but brief aftershocks of giggles. 'Oh man,' he said. 'Good lord. All right. Remember to read the rest of it for Tuesday, and (shouting over everyone packing up) see if you can discern any talent!' And he pointed at me. 'This guy,' he said. 'Woo.'

>> No.18741978

>>18741647
Is this the fanfic he wrote for Voyage to Arcturus?

>> No.18741984

>>18741940
He's on record as saying he thought it was bad

>> No.18742101

imagine spending decades criticizing other people's books and when you try it yourself, it's a big piece of shit

>>18741984
after the reviews for the first run came out, he bought all of his publisher's second run copies so they wouldn't have to be sold to the public. SAD!

>> No.18742207

>>18741943
This sort of thing is genuinely my most deeply held fantasy and the existence of a copypasta about it mocks me from beyond the world of the unconscious

>> No.18742344

>>18742101
>imagine spending decades criticizing
I've read a bunch of his stuff. It's 99.99% praising and quoting works that are well established as classics. The major clue to his true critical ability is the modern authors he mistakenly celebrates. His analysis for what makes something become canon is solid, but then he throws it all away to promote Roth, Cohen, DeLillo, and Weinstein. He's right about Pynchon.

>>18742207
A fantasy about laughing at an inside literature joke with your professor? Seems easily achievable.

>> No.18742459
File: 24 KB, 400x370, s-l400.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
18742459

>>18741716
I can do, but the people I did for aren't worth it. And as for teaching, read this.
https://imgur.com/a/Gzp2Ile
>Those who did for those who should not have been done for, burn with righteous indignation and holy fury.

>> No.18742879

>>18742344
>but then he throws it all away to promote Roth, Cohen, DeLillo, and Weinstein.
Bloom obsessively mentioned, quoted, and celebrated such Anglo-American Romantic poets as Crane & Stevens, and hardly ever mentioned the ones listed in your post, never mind "threw it all away to promote" them.

>> No.18742901

>>18742879
I think you're responding to something that isn't in that post... If you've kept up with Bloom, he has written / talked a lot about the authors listed there.

Lol chill out and read more Bloom

>> No.18742985

>>18742901
I have, and the poster's proportions are way off on the whole.

>> No.18743125

>>18742985
Well, Bloom's whole thing is praising the canon. Then he introduces new candidates, right? And they're literally DeLillo, Weinstein, Roth, Cohen, McCarthy and Pynchon.

>> No.18743165

>>18742207
I rejoice at the fact that I know that this is true

>> No.18743200

>>18741943
Based.

>> No.18743258

>>18742344
Roth, Cohen, Delillo, weisenstein, Pynchon and Ashbury are all his NY buddies. Ofc he promotes them, there is not a single critic who was not biased like that. Even Northop Frye pushed inadequate Canadian literature.

>> No.18743269

>>18743258
*were