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how do you refute this?

>> No.18738506

>>18738496
By not giving a shit and lamenting that a thread died for this piece of a shit thread.

>> No.18738512

It is more about when cells become a person than that.

>> No.18738521
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>>18738496
Well, the baby is certainly alive, but parents (especially the mother) have the right to kill their children

>> No.18738522

>>18738496
I don't count it as a life if it comes from Brazil

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18738524

How the fuck is this /lit/ related? I swear, you fucks aren’t even trying anymore.

>> No.18738531

>>18738512
Humans are the same as any organism, we’re not special. There is no essence that distinguishes us from the rest.

>> No.18738534

>>18738522
fuck you

>> No.18738536

>>18738496
scarcity
personally I don't care

>> No.18738537

>>18738496
a position on something like abortion shouldn't be based on things like language and definitions

>> No.18738538

The word ‘life’ is being used differently in each case; the former is referring to life as any example of something biological existing whereas the second is referring to life as when someone is human, so to speak.

I’m generally anti-abortion but these anti-abortion arguments are so shit.

>> No.18738543

>>18738524
is it just me or has /lit/ been especially shitty the past couple days? We're reaching /tv/ levels of retardation in some threads

>> No.18738548

>>18738496
Law is under no obligation to reflect reality.

>> No.18738550

>>18738531
Yes, but when it becomes a person, anon. That is the thing. It is obvious that a zygote is alive, but when it becomes a person?

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>>18738543
/lit/ has been especially shitty the past couple day. Doesn’t help that the mods won’t do shit about it unless their feelings are hurt.

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>>18738496
If you are happy, they don't care.

>> No.18738596

>>18738496
Anti abortion is honestly the dumbest thing ever. The types of people who are willing to abort their child would not raise a good child. It's better that for the child itself to not have to suffer through that type of existence under them and it's better for society for one less degenerate in the making.

>> No.18738612

>>18738496
Absolute brainlet

>> No.18738628

My life situation for all intents and purposes should have been an abortion and I kind of like my life. This debate is always kinda conflicting to me. Not even slightly religious either.

>> No.18738631

>>18738496
You don't people who abort or support abortion are either through huge compartmentalization and mental gymnastics or genuine sociopaths.

>> No.18738637

>>18738531
absolute reddit take

>> No.18738644

>>18738637
>t. christcuck

>> No.18738649

>>18738596
This tbqh. Abortion is basically decentralized eugenics.

>> No.18738650

>>18738531
Yes same worthless matter consisting of stable energy has decided to establish in a way to allow a formation of consciousness is not special. Of course.

>> No.18738656

>>18738649
Abortion is euthanasia.

>> No.18738657

>>18738531
>Might be as far as we know the only intelligent lifeform in this galaxy possibly universe
>not special

>> No.18738661

>>18738596
This makes sense from an individualistic perspective but for populations with low numbers of births like in (rightfully called) Yurocucks, abortion detrimental for society at large.

>> No.18738665

>>18738496
1. Life on Mars, as portrayed, is life.
2. Life on Earth, as portrayed (human fetus), is life and pretending to argue it's not is a straw man.
3. There is no moral qualm in terminating the life of an undeveloped fetus that cannot feel emotion and pain and fundamentally isn't conscious.
4. Nobody argues late term abortion or infanticide is moral and attempting to show a fetus in second or third trimester as an argument against abortion is a straw man. Try showing a zygote and argue aborting it is wrong. Millions of these fuckers (called cells) die every second and you don't give a shit because nobody gives a shit about individual cells until it grows to be an actual person or an animal.
>NOOOOOOO NOT THE HECKIN ZYGOTTERINO YOU CANT DO THAT ITS MURDER
>THAT ONE PARTICULAR CELL IS SPECIAL BECAUSE IT JUST IS OK ITS A HECKIN REAL HUMAN BEAN

>inb4 muh soul
>inb4 muh god
>inb4 muh quantum consciousness

>> No.18738666

>>18738496
life =/= human life, you dumb chud. otherwise pro-life groups should start campaigning against masturbation. oh how many lives are lost when some fat loser touches his tiny pecker to hentai.

>> No.18738670

>>18738531
>no essence
Well, whether consciousness arose materially or not is irrelevant, but it is the essence that distinguishes us. Further, when you talk about how humans aren't special like the resident reddit nihilist, do you also believe racism and homophobia are bad and that black lives indeed do matter? Would you object to me going out and killing a bunch of niggers? Just curious.

>> No.18738674

>>18738666
Alright, Satan.

>> No.18738676

These retards justifying elimination of potential and human being just to simp for female pussy by liquidating consequences of female solipsism.

Bravo degenerates, you are the reason why West is like it is, if all like you died ONLY then things would be fixed.

>> No.18738678

>>18738496
the interest in those two is different, no moral worth is given to the life on Mars, just curiousity

>> No.18738680

>>18738657
>Might be
>as far as we know
Nonsense

>> No.18738683

>>18738650
>>18738657
>intelligence
>consciousness
Kek. You only think we're special because of our hubris and the brain's inability to comprehend the full spectrum of existence.

>> No.18738684

>>18738674
>tiny pecker Q.E.D.

>> No.18738685

>>18738670
animals also have consciousness

>> No.18738689

>>18738680
Well we are for sure the only one on this planet. Pretty special imo

>> No.18738697

>>18738496
It's not illegal to kill bacteria, is it?

t. Pro-life leaning

>> No.18738699

>>18738680
We do know how unbelievably rare abiogenesis is, the size of the universe notwithstanding.

>> No.18738706

>>18738657
>one more humans out of billions
>special
it's worthless to talk about the size of the universe as a meaningful scale when talking about human affairs, if it turned out that it is a million time smaller or bigger than what we currently think, it wouldn't change a thing for us

>> No.18738710

>>18738683
Value is drawn from the sheer being not from arbitrary standards, we don't need to comprehend everything to value conscience we have as special compared to beings not having it.

>> No.18738717

>>18738496
the most important thing is to realize that ideology emerges only once a decision has already been made
people have abortions because they don't want to be pregnant anymore, their reasoning for why it is ok is basically irrelevant
what is more interesting is the reasoning of the people who oppose abortion

>> No.18738720

>>18738697
Now that I come to think of it —this is /lit/ —stop shitting up the board.

>> No.18738723

>>18738550
a "person" is just a concept in your head. they never become a person because a "person" doesn't exist.

>> No.18738724

>>18738717
>what is more interesting is the reasoning of the people who oppose abortion
or rather the psychology which causes them to come up with the reasoning

>> No.18738727

>>18738706
That's true, but in terms of thinking long term for the future of humanity, it does change some things in an outlook at the state of things if you consider that we are the only intelligent life in the universe, which very well could be the case. It makes one look at space travel much differently, for example.

>> No.18738731

>>18738717
>>18738724
Rather then pretending case is close, why don't your wise ass trow his rationalization for demonization of people opposing murder? Will you get her pussy bro? Is that all there is to it?

>> No.18738739

>>18738666
>life =/= human life
Even worse.