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Why does the left write so much better than the right? Let alone books, even when you read newspapers of both sides, the quality of writing is instantly discernable. What created this difference?

>> No.18736118

>>18736105
>What created this difference?
probably the gaping smelly wound where your cock is supposed to be

>> No.18736124

>>18736105

>> No.18736128
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>>18736124

>> No.18736141

>>18736105
Left-leaning people have been proven to possess higher intelligence and more developed empathy, while the mentally inferior and less educated rightoids cling to plebeian copes such like tradition/nationalism.

>> No.18736155

>>18736141
How would you explain the difference? Why would people with higher intelligence flock to the left necessarily?

>> No.18736166

>>18736141
>to possess higher intelligence and more developed empathy
this proves the left is a bunch of midwits because empathy decreases markedly once you move up to actual genius area of the Gaussian curve. that's where you find all the schizo geniuses, psychos and spergs who are utterly incapable of empatizing with anyone
>cling to plebeian copes
throughout history plebeian movements were almost exclusively left wing

>> No.18736184

Depends what you mean by the "left" and the "right"

Actual leftists i.e. Commies tend to be patrician tier educated or self educated with a disciplined art school or literature degree or pedigree from family background. Their writing is often extremely advanced and impenetrable to normies, which ironically doesn't suit their cause at all.

Succdems and libs (who you might be referring to as "left") tend to be normies, run of the mill, who can only write trash think pieces and long wordy essays for the Guardian or NYT that say mostly nothing in 3,000 words.

Centrists I would also include in that category of midwit libs who did well in high school, the annoying dorks who decided that they were the most intelligent person in the world because of that. These are the people who are producing the journalist-tier writing today.

Meanwhile you have the right who are an interesting complex of subtypes. There are mongoloid lumpen prole retards and country-normies who aren't worth mentioning because they don't write. Then there are the journalist tier rightists, Peterson shapiro carlson etc, who are similar to the journalist tier leftists but usually with even more of a smug self satisfaction about the effectiveness of their own self-education. They usually suck ass at writing, take a look at Peterson's book for instance, it is like an essay a 12th grader would write, just much much longer.

Fast forward to the fascist right and you get to the non-normie side of the spectrum. These are typically kids who came from old money and had a good education. Most of their childhood would have been spent being indoctrinated into bourgeois values and being given an elite education. These are the pale weirdos who always wore suits to school, if they went to a school at all and weren't just privately tutored. They tend to write better than the other rightists of course on account of their superior education, but they don't equal the ultra left's arthouse vibe on account of the very same cultural reactionism which is so inculcated in them that they do not expose themselves to new ideas and trends in art.

>> No.18736199

>>18736184
>Fast forward to the fascist right and you get to the non-normie side of the spectrum. These are typically kids who came from old money and had a good education. Most of their childhood would have been spent being indoctrinated into bourgeois values and being given an elite education. These are the pale weirdos who always wore suits to school, if they went to a school at all and weren't just privately tutored. They tend to write better than the other rightists of course on account of their superior education, but they don't equal the ultra left's arthouse vibe on account of the very same cultural reactionism which is so inculcated in them that they do not expose themselves to new ideas and trends in art.
name three people like this

>> No.18736200

>>18736184
>Most of their childhood would have been spent being indoctrinated into bourgeois values
bourgeois values are antithetical to fascism

>> No.18736203

>>18736155
Not necessarily, but it's usually the case. Intelligence is hereditary, meaning mentally gifted people are likely to be born in middle/upper class milieu. Not being overly preoccupied with individualstic advancement, person like this is inevitably drawn to humanism and socialist ideas. A poor, uneducated, bitter person on the other hand is drawn to easily accessible and undemanding cope mechanisms like traditional religion or national pride.

>> No.18736211

Why cant jannies and mods nuke /pol/ threads on sight

>> No.18736216

>>18736203
>A poor, uneducated, bitter person on the other hand is drawn to easily accessible and undemanding cope mechanisms like traditional religion or national pride.
that would mean that leftist movements are doomed to fail because the latter type of people severely outnumbers the former

>> No.18736245

>>18736216
Democracy has always been an illusion, it's the mindset of social and cultural elite that dictates trends.

>> No.18736253

>>18736203
Can verify this one by experience.

>> No.18736255

>>18736245
based and Pareto-pilled

>> No.18736259

>>18736105
This is like asking why all the best writers in 13th century Italy were catholic

>> No.18736260

People tend to stick to old stuff, OP. Leftists tend to be more deconstructed and try new things, but you should also consider that they also make most of the garbage too.

>> No.18736263

>>18736211
This.

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>>18736211
Step one. It gets flagged
Step two. Janitor wake up/finish lunch etc. and check flags
Step three. Janitor asks the moderator in a chat room
Step four. Moderator comes back from work and checks chat
Step five. Permission is granted and the post is removed and the troll is permabanned
Step six. Troll resets router and posts it again.

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>>18736105
>Why does the left write so much better than the right?
This is not even true and saying this is a sign of being poorly read. Consider Dostoevsky, Eliot, Yeats, Pound, Mann, Bloy, Borges, Gottfried Benn, Mishima, Hamsun, Celine, Waugh, d'Annunzio, Gertrude Stein, DH Lawrence, etc. Literary modernism was almost perfectly evenly split between writers on the Right and the Left. And if we look backward we see that people like Pope, Aphra Benn, Wordsworth, Johnson, Dryden, Hume, etc. were Tories. Cicero, the greatest stylist of ancient Rome, was a dyed in the wool conservative. Of all the arts, writing has perhaps the highest concentration of reactionaries. I say that as a social democrat.
>when you read newspapers of both sides, the quality of writing is instantly discernable
Maybe in Anglophone world, with its mutant degenerated tabloid version of "conservatism". I doubt this is the case with Le Figaro or whatever. That said there are lots of evil neoliberal publications with fine writing.

>> No.18736273

>>18736211
People don't report and lefties and righties take the bait because they're low iq

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>>18736184
I wonder if people will pigeon hole me as far left or far right, I think one of the best parts of the 2nd book I wrote is how nobody is really the good guy and class struggle is, hopefully, shown with some empathy & without too much bias while still being violent and darkly humourous

>> No.18736276

>>18736266
>permabanned
You've never been banned for trolling before, have you?

>> No.18736280

>>18736267
Nah, telegraph and times are written well despite being obviously right wing. Op is just a trolling lefty

>> No.18736303

Rightists are generally pragmatic so dont really get into creative stuff since its such a crapshoot. Leftists care less about this so their cream tends to rise to the top but have to keep in mind theyre also responsible for the vast amount of schlock out there these days too

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>>18736280
>times
>right wing
Huh?

>> No.18736318

>>18736303
That's an interesting take. But it seems to break down where religion is concerned, because religion is anything but pragmatic and the right loves that shit. Meanwhile the left rejects it generally speaking

>> No.18736325

>>18736105
the far right has been retarded since Bernanos died

>> No.18736327

>>18736203
>Intelligence is hereditary, meaning mentally gifted people are likely to be born in middle/upper class milieu
I don't follow this logic. How is being naturally gifted related to parents' wealth?

>> No.18736333

>>18736303
>Rightists are generally pragmatic
lol

>> No.18736338

>>18736327
Many of the rich kids in Vancouver are dumbasses because they have been sheltered so much.

>> No.18736341

>>18736267
>Mann
Really? I didn’t know that.

>> No.18736348

>>18736105
Absurd, literature is dead precisely because of leftists infestation.

>> No.18736350

Rightists aren't as educated. They're perfectly fine and happy with making money through trades or financial institutions while probably still ascribing to a religion too. Moving to the left happens naturally as you get more and more educated if you ask me.

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>>18736307
>NYT
>Right Wing
Picrel

>> No.18736356

>>18736341
Yeah during WWI he wrote a nationalist, pro-war, conservative tract called 'Reflections of a Nonpolitical Man' and was associated with the Conservative Revolutionary movement for a while. However he became sympathetic to the Weimar Republic and socialism after the war. He described himself as someone who runs to the other side of a ship when it's tipping too far in one direction.

>> No.18736357

>>18736350
>Moving to the left happens naturally as you get more and more educated if you ask me.
Replace it with: get more and more removed from the reality.

>> No.18736359

>>18736327
A genetic line of high intelligence tends to work its way up the social ladder.

>> No.18736374

>>18736303
>Rightists are generally pragmatic
Yet they're less successful than leftists

>> No.18736392

>>18736374
There arent many successgful leftists, unless they are from already rich families. And no, billionaires who are pro immigration because they need more wageslaves arent leftists.

>> No.18736394

>leftists itt talking about hereditary intelligence and meritocratic social mobility
You guys know what this means right lel

>> No.18736408

>>18736184
this is pretty accurate

>> No.18736416

Traditionally, the left promoted intellectualism and the arts whereas the right didn't want the average person to think too much and found the arts subversive.