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Why do you continue to write, anon? What meaning does it hold for you?

>> No.18735384

i wanna publish a potboiler and sell ten thousand copies and go on tv and make a fool of myself

>> No.18735385

A vehicle to spread my love for Christ. Take a seat.

>> No.18735389

>>18735377
Fire Punch is a good manga

>> No.18735398

It's fun.

>> No.18735403

>>18735384
basef
>>18735385
gay
>>18735398
based

>> No.18735434

>>18735403
Brian's family may as well be Gandhi next to the shit those chucklefucks spew at me.

>> No.18735453
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>>18735377
My brain does not allow me peace unless I write out the elaborate hallucinations I have about characters and ridiculous stories

>> No.18735531

>>18735453
based?

>> No.18735603

>>18735531
nah

>> No.18736238

>>18735531
I stayed up all night polishing my book further, trimming away excess words, reducing the number of sentences that start with "the" or the character's name. Giving everything another pass like smoothing out some pizza dough!

>> No.18736284

thread got nuked but can someone give a meaningful answer to this post? it seems like the only people who care to answer are consoomers who are triggered that they may miss out on free shit

I genuinely do not understand why anyone would keep a youtube channel [talking about making shit for the public in general] for the sake of "being out there" and nothing else, I do not believe that consciously or subconsciously you'd do it for no reason but that.
>fuck off [...] the more thousands of creative people we bury, the more we'll erase the occasional two or three insightful voices
>This mindset would literally kill the arts off and everybody would stop making anything
All these people earned a comfortable living as "intellectuals" and they were talking to a receptive audience anyway, so even if their work was not for the sake of profit, it would be received by people who certainly engaged with it and appreciated it. There is nothing in history that was remotely similar to working on something that addressed a public that did not exist, except maybe doomsayers and other madmen talking to themselves at street corners.
I think the mindset that is killing the arts is that creative people are supposed to sacrifice time, money and energy to the wind, then waste more time, money and energy "promoting themselves" (why would you publish something if it can't reach anyone), all at a loss, just because not doing so would "kill the arts". All while 50 Shades becomes the all time top selling book in the UK [..] and people win awards for being minorities, and gallery curators get fired for saying that "they will still feature white people".
I just don't get what the fuck is the point of producing anything when there's a 99% chance that there will never be a public, except maybe a couple people who'll say "ty for the new chapter" or some shit. Everyone is an island, you won't have colleagues unless you are part of a political club. There is nothing in this activity that I see as enriching of one's life, I only see the worth of this in the eyes of the consumer who's just like "hey free content" and adds cuck#234234's shit to his content hoard, just in case, but he'll never read it because he's too busy jacking off to hentai.
I'm not saying this to dissuade people, actually I want to be proven wrong in some way except false statements like "ancient people did this shit for free", no they didn't the context was entirely different, or "but this would kill the ARTS" when the reason why they're dying is that nobody cares except when "creatives" decide to give up, then they get called quitters. It's all so weird and hypocritical, like you're asking others to throw themselves off a cliff with wax wings, excepting to crash to their deaths, all because if by any chance you actually took off, then the crowd of kids watching the worm-eaters might look up and clap for a second and 1 every 1000 of them might give you a compliment.
I don't get it man.

>> No.18736299

>>18736284
By "all these people" I meant
>I mean do you view authors and philosophers negatively then, because they tried to get their ideas out there past just talking in person at a book club by writing books for a larger audience.
Hoping that I won't just get incoherent rage as always

>> No.18736345

>>18736284
If you write books and print them in a physical form, you will eventually find an audience because people are going to turn back towards local goods soon.
>t. firmly believe this due to the increasing nostalgia over how everything is so shit and so woke in 2021

>> No.18736388

>>18736345
Are you the guy who spams his book here?
Either way I strongly disagree with this idea, I think this paradigm will get worse and worse. Do you have some data confirming a change in trends that way? An example I have found is a document about the game industry (I know, it's still media). When projects fail a "post-mortem" is written. While basically all issues (management, internal tensions, technical difficulties, etc.) have decreased dramatically, over the last 20 years it was marketing issues that murdered projects the hardest. This is the same reason at the base of otaku pandering in anime. Books are not any different. Again, this is where consoomers will either reply "I don't give a shit I only read 1000 year old philosophical treatises" or "b-but you have to cuck yourself and make things for free so I can hoard them and never ever say a fucking thank you" or the classic "whatever you make is probably shit so it doesn't matter" but nobody who actually makes "content" seems to have a word on this outside of hopeless schizos.

>> No.18736485

>>18736388
I think it is going to be easy to sell a book based on something many people are frustrated by, and right now, crime and drugs are out-of-control in Vancouver.

My book is a somewhat dark comedy about bike theft, vigilantism, blackmail and hidden agendas...

>> No.18736497

>>18736485
God you are so fucking annoying.

>> No.18736519

>>18736497
Jealousy is a bitch

>> No.18736532

fuck off idiot

>> No.18736549

>>18735377
I don't have any mental scaffolding of my own to solve the social and political problems of my generation. I need to get my thoughts in order as best I can so I can approach the crisis on my own terms

>> No.18737773

bump

>> No.18737790

>>18735453
But your books are neither hallucinatory nor ridiculous, they’re just rehashed sitcom plots about drinking buddies.
You just want attention, so here it is I guess…

>> No.18737795

>>18736519
And being a retard is clearly a good defense of your ego.

>> No.18737801
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>>18735377
Anon. *taps the glass*

>> No.18737815
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I write because, whether I ultimately do or don't, I can't stop myself from thinking about it. Either about my own stories, or the ways in which I would have done something differently that I've read.
if I don't write I will be living inside my own thoughts so, even if no one reads them, it's the most effective way to empty my head of otherwise irrelevent and esoteric ideas and put them into a tangible form where at least I know they exist for the larger world.

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>>18737801
A toast

>> No.18737828

I write because, somewhere, a mouse is without a cookie and I find that to be morally detestable.
we must secure a cookie for our mice, and muffin for our mooses.

>> No.18737829

>>18735398
This

>> No.18737934

>>18737790
Lmao you haven't even read beyond a few paragraphs.

>> No.18737974

Fun. Also I would rather try to write and fail then never try at all.

>> No.18737996

>>18737934
no, you posted a pdf once and I got to the part where drinking buddy 1 pees on a police car.
it was tremendously boring, I did waste any further time, but from what I understand the main character becomes some internet sensation for fighting back against the homeless?
I don't know dude, really just seems like you want to publish a book to have published a book

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>>18737974
Go go go! You can do it anon!

>> No.18738003

>>18737996
You literally made it a couple of chapters right before everything kicks off and the blackmail begins. The character that blackmails him is very believable from a modern day point of view.

After the drinking buddy part, those characters don't play much of a role in the novel as Ken quickly goes down a rabbit hole of lies, covering his tracks, and trying not to lose everything.

>> No.18738009

>>18737974
>then never try at all.
>then
Well at least you're being honest

>> No.18738011

>>18737996
Also I already published a book in 2013:

https://www.amazon.ca/City-Singles-Jason-Bryan/dp/0991825705

Had a massive influence on my life, lead to so many doors(and legs)opening for me. Super stoked for my 2nd book!!!

>> No.18738014

>>18738009
Ever try being nice?

>> No.18738021

>>18738003
sounds pretty blah even for a synopsis, and I'm still not seeing the hallucinatory, insane aspects, just a kind of series of kooky shenanigans.

>>18738011
and yeah, I remember now, you're a date-rapist too or something. I don't know dude, none of this rebukes anything I'm saying: you want to be a writer more than you want to write. but hey, small goals for small souls and everyone's a winner right? enjoy being the shill king, if that's ultimately your deal, lol

>> No.18738026

>>18738014
every try?

>> No.18738044

>>18738021
Do I need to give away the plot? It's a book man, give it a chance. I'm sure it will entertain you!

>> No.18738060

>>18738044
but it's a book, man: I have to sit down and fucking READ the thing. it's not a movie where I just turn it on and tune out, I have to actively THINK. besides I've already told you it DIDN'T entertain me, so what are you even getting at here? I should just hand you money because you want it?

>> No.18738067

>>18738060
I don't know man, you made it to the part where the guy gets beat up after trying to get back his bike. The fun part is watching the guy change into someone ready to strike back against the crackheads taking over the parks.

>> No.18738202

>>18738009
God dammit.

>> No.18738467

>>18735377
I just must, at this point.It has become my life's purpose and knowing it has brought great peace of mind. Knowing your purpose in life is something very precious. I don't want to do anything else because nothing else brings me joy. Even my newborn daughter, which I of course love beyond everything I've loved before, has made this last year pretty terrible, for I haven't been able to write as much due to tiredness and sleep deprivation. I would abandon writing for her, but I would never again be happy.

>> No.18738652

I feel the urge to do it all the time and if I don’t do it I become mentally ill and I suffer terribly, but when I do it I get attacked by existential doubts and self hatred

>> No.18738664

>>18735385
Amen.
Amen.
Amen.
So much peace and love be with you my brother. Can’t wait to read what you write one day.

>> No.18738750

>>18735377
Vanity. I want to leave a legacy, I want people to remember me somehow.

>> No.18739203

>>18735453
hi jason

>> No.18739590

>>18735377
/lit/ has no writers. take your meds.

>> No.18739645

If you didn't milk a cow, it would hurt the cow. But if you don't pluck fruit from the trees, the birds will eat them. I just write like a tree growing fruits; if men do not eat them, birds will. If not birds, then worms. If not worms, then bacteria.