Has reading improved your life? Be honest.

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Anonymous Tue Jul 27 04:04:52 2021 No.18729068 [Reply] [Original]

Has reading improved your life? Be honest.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 04:06:12 2021 No.18729070 everyday i pray for the sweet release of death

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 04:07:20 2021 No.18729074 >>18729068 yes and i still wish i read more, every day i become more aware of the things i'll never know

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 09:23:42 2021 No.18730088 >>18729068 I want to shit on her while she sucking my cock

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 09:24:30 2021 No.18730092 >>18729068 Me on the right

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 09:26:24 2021 No.18730099 >>18729068 I'm going to kill myself faster and that means I'll suffer less

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 09:29:14 2021 No.18730113 >>18729068 Reading got me a girlfriend (twice)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 09:30:03 2021 No.18730120 >>18730113 >Reading got me a girlfriend (male)

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 09:50:51 2021 No.18730194

>>18729068
No. I recently realised i have wasted the past 8 years reading hundreds of books. No different than films or videogames except you can pat yourself on the back for not "wasting time". Reading is a way for aristocrats and neet tards to waste their life.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 09:54:00 2021 No.18730206 >>18730194 Perfectly encapsulated. I feel the same bro :/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 09:55:02 2021 No.18730209 >>18729068 i want tear out all of her hair from the head when I hump her with my prick from behind

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 09:55:03 2021 No.18730210 yes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHoAQW_DBI4

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 10:06:05 2021 No.18730252 >>18729068 gave me a job, some pussy. so I'd say, yeah.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 10:06:56 2021 No.18730253 >>18729068 no, /lit/ threads did.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 10:07:36 2021 No.18730257

>>18730194
I'm stuck in a similar crisis where nothing has any meaning. I don't want to have an utilitarian view on things but 100% of this has no relevance in modern society, you will not find anyone you can share thoughts with, it will not help you in life, it only amounts to a convoluted form of escapism which is in turn only useful if it's somewhat relevant to your life or if it can help you in some way. Not because of the substance of media, because this is the case for Plato as much as it is for Harry Potter, but because of the times we live in, reading anything is just a productive as masturbating or playing videogames, except with no dopamine kick. What do you do without the dopamine kick, improve your life? Nope, you'll just be miserable in a sensory deprivation chamber in the shape of a planet.
I hate this life so much, someone please put me to sleep.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 10:11:27 2021 No.18730272 >>18729068 Nothing I've ever done has improved my life Or maybe they did and my life would just be far worse right now

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 10:12:49 2021 No.18730277

>>18730257
>>18730194

>reads books instead of
>stealing, robbing, murdering, waging war, getting addicted to hardcore narcotics, wasting and withering away into a true shadow self.

Reading books isn't always about 'reading', it can be as much about what you are not doing to fill the time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 10:17:41 2021 No.18730314 File: 32 KB, 498x184, tfnogf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] No. Lifting did tho. Stop being a faggot and lift weights >>18730088 based

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 10:34:54 2021 No.18730392 >>18729068 it has made life less miserable for me. That and exercice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 10:56:41 2021 No.18730492 >>18729068 me before buddhism: >haha buddhism is so chill, let me read this stuff so i can live happily me after reading buddhism: >it's over. it's fucking over.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 11:40:29 2021 No.18730636 >>18729068 i call it 'the encroachment of the gut'

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 11:41:29 2021 No.18730640 >>18730113 how

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 11:46:00 2021 No.18730661 >>18729068 i want to lick her asshole what a slut, show her ass

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 11:52:18 2021 No.18730703
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>>18729068
Immensely, especially when it comes to novels and poetry. Novels have unironically opened my mind to different ways of living, made me more imaginative, more empathetic and curious about others, their thoughts and their perspectives on life. In general, sharing stories is a great thing and I love being in the mental space where people share stories, both when reading and when talking. Novels made me more outgoing and keen to see and interact with other people, and they have also generally made me less afraid of feeling what I feel and of life in general. More in general, reading about people's lives, even if it's just fiction (good fiction, of course, which depicts life well), unironically made me braver in facing both practical difficulties and psychological despair. There is something about stories conveyed through words alone that I find nowhere else. I may regret many things when I die, but not a single page I have read was a waste of time, not even the ugly ones.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 12:36:21 2021 No.18730937

>>18730703
This.

2 years ago I was at the point of killing myself and one day I went to /lit/ and read some thread about Cioran. After that I went to my library, made a card and lent On the Heights of Despair. This book literally saved me, since I have realized that I am just another unfortunate person on this Earth. Since then I've read countless books and for those past two years I have experienced more personal development than in my entire life.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 13:12:05 2021 No.18731108 >>18729068 i've always been reading ever since i can remember, so i can't really say. my life hasn't really been too great though. although reading books that others recommend you and recommending good books to others can help ur relationships :3

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 13:25:18 2021 No.18731191 >>18729068 Yes. I combine it with lifting so I can become the enlightened Chad we all want to be.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 13:28:05 2021 No.18731204 >>18729068 No.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 13:32:47 2021 No.18731232 "My" "life" is an illusion.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 13:33:40 2021 No.18731238 >>18730703 >I may regret many things when I die, but not a single page I have read was a waste of time, not even the ugly ones. Cope.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 13:44:09 2021 No.18731302 Nothing has improved my life. Not even "improving" myself. They lied to us all when they said things can get better because it's truly what they wanted to believe as much as anyone.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 15:09:08 2021 No.18731933 >>18730257 Kys failed normie. Read for self-actualization. Rise above the tumult of bourgeois society. Be an individual.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 15:10:59 2021 No.18731945 >>18731933 >Be an individual. I shall follow your command!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 15:11:59 2021 No.18731953 >>18729068 My life has been worse since I stopped reader as often. I feel as if I have brain damage.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 16:08:28 2021 No.18732282 >>18730194 >No different than films or videogames except you can pat yourself on the back for not "wasting time" Its less WHAT you do than HOW you do.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 16:10:07 2021 No.18732285
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>>18731953
>My life has been worse since I stopped reader as often.
>since I stopped reader as often.
>stopped reader as often.

>I feel as if I have brain damage.

I'm inclined to agree

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 16:12:36 2021 No.18732299 >>18730314 >Stop being a faggot and lift weights there's nothing more faggy than wasting energy for no other reason that proving you've wasted energy the only non faggot way to get fit is through manual labor

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 16:14:50 2021 No.18732308 Reading The 48 Laws of Power when I was like 21 has enabled me to get friends and multiple girlfriends. I am still firmly convinced that book is like a cheat code to life.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 16:16:31 2021 No.18732316 >>18729068 absolutely not.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 16:17:08 2021 No.18732319 >>18732308 >that book is like a cheat code to life I'm sure it does work but it's common knowledge that psychopaths do very well in this world. You're not accessing some arcane knowledge here.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 16:25:05 2021 No.18732360

>>18732319
I'm not even using it for edgy Machiavelli type shit. I have just been in situations where I have been succeeding and then only realizing later that people have been drawn to me because I was subconsciously using a tactic I read about in this book years earlier.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 16:30:50 2021 No.18732391 >>18732360 >and then only realizing later that people have been drawn to me because I was subconsciously manipulating people

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 16:42:34 2021 No.18732458 >>18732391 How else do you get friends but by manipulating them? Convincing a certain person to hang out with you over someone else is still manipulation on some level.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 16:43:59 2021 No.18732464 >>18732458 By being yourself and whatever? It just works with most people.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 16:44:59 2021 No.18732470 >>18732464 Being yourself is still manipulation because your natural charm is still influencing people to hang out with you.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 16:50:17 2021 No.18732505

In the last few years, my life has only gotten worse, and I've also read more and more, but I'm not sure if they're related. Sometimes books have been an escape from the bad or a first step on a new path, but just as often, books have sharpened the pain or led me to make bad decisions. That said, I've regretted watching many TV shows and playing many games, probably most, but I've never regretted reading a book. Good or bad, they kind of become part of you.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 16:56:09 2021 No.18732536

>>18729068
reading hasn't improved my life much, but the power of reading has improved other lives that I know. my grandfather was an avid reader all his life, and when he got a stroke, he was completely grateful that he had a massive library and an interest in reading, which he did until he passed. his reading rescued him from a grim existence.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 16:58:42 2021 No.18732550 >>18732299 cope

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:00:39 2021 No.18732562 reading, essentially, is only my attempt to intellectualize my eventual suicide.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:01:07 2021 No.18732566 >>18730492 Yeah not buddhist but when I actually read Buddha I was surprised how much the media image in the West differed from the reality. In movies it's presented as a religion for chill hippies. In reality it's a very black pilled religion

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:02:52 2021 No.18732580 >>18729068 nah i’ve more or less given up on it and critical thinking in general

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:03:18 2021 No.18732581 >>18732464 No such thing as a real self.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:03:43 2021 No.18732583 >>18732580 based

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:03:47 2021 No.18732584 Reading makes me happy and I've got a YouTube channel where I talk about books and that's kind of fun so I guess it has improved things.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:04:00 2021 No.18732586 >>18732581 Not thinking

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:07:35 2021 No.18732601

>>18732566
>In reality it's a very black pilled religion
In reality it's actually Asian Catholicism complete with selling of indulgences. The most meme versions of Mahayana Buddhism are far bigger than Theravada, and they pretty much amount to paying the monks so they do the dirty work for you while you go on with your life doing absolutely none of the things the Buddha says. This is why Buddhist countries are shitholes filled with amoral people instead of peaceful paradises.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:10:01 2021 No.18732614

>>18729068
No I'm trapped in a neurotic cycle of manic ideation followed by a complete lack of actualization. I don't understand how I hear some people describe how they realize one thing or read one book or change their perspective in one way and end up changing their whole lives because of it when I have done those things a hundred times over and understood them better than anyone else yet I still do nothing

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:11:41 2021 No.18732627 i might sound cringy and edgy but nietzsche's work got me out of depression in highschool.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:12:47 2021 No.18732638 >>18732285 Sorry I try best

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:24:34 2021 No.18732695 >>18732299 massive cope and retarded logic

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:30:15 2021 No.18732720 >>18732580 same

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:31:56 2021 No.18732727

>>18730640
not him but the same happened to me. I only started getting gfs after I started reading (circa first year of highschool, while all the other guys were banging girls since much before here in my country.)
Most of what you read will help you attain a domain of language, which is very attractive even to the plebest of girls. Most good books, will also help you to become a better person, which (contrary to popular belief) is attractive too. Women find stoics attractive even if they don't know a flying fuck about stoicism or stoicism at all.
Finally, there's also the books specifically written to help you in your social/romantic life, such as the plebbit classic "How to make friends and influence people" and the books of Robert Greene.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:32:51 2021 No.18732733 >>18732695 seethe, lift theez nuts

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:33:48 2021 No.18732737 >>18732727 Most good books will* (remove the comma) Sorry, been reading a lot of F. Gardner lately.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:37:15 2021 No.18732750 >>18732627 Might he says.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 18:16:39 2021 No.18732947 God bros I'm so tired of being a virgin 25 is too old for this shit I just want some kind of a relationship with a woman so I can at least experience it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 18:22:23 2021 No.18732977 >>18732299 t. over/under weight incel

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 18:23:27 2021 No.18732987 >>18732977 t. manlet

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 18:29:03 2021 No.18733023
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>>18732947
some experiences are just no for certain people. This becomes obvious when you see good looking guys get dates and matches on tinder so easily when you can't do it despite years of trying. It's just not meant to be.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 18:44:40 2021 No.18733102

>>18733023
I'm not ugly though I had very attractive girls into me in college I was just too much of a sperg to sleep with them. I'm out of college now and I don't have any pictures of myself to use for Tinder and I don't have any friends who are girls.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 18:51:13 2021 No.18733155 >>18733102 There's a completely different mindset about dating today, now you are like a product that people shop for

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 18:56:23 2021 No.18733179

>>18733155
Compared to when? I'm in my 20s, I don't exactly have some kind of starry-eyed memory of boomer dating in the 80s. I'm at the very least not ugly. I'm /fit/ with abs, I have a job that makes pretty decent money. I don't even know where you meet women though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 18:58:44 2021 No.18733189 >>18733155 Would you prefer to live in India where you are literally a product being sold by your parents in arranged marriages?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 19:00:32 2021 No.18733197 >>18733189 If everyone was white and thin sure

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 19:03:40 2021 No.18733209 I've never not been reading my life's never been good these two may be in fact related

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 19:06:09 2021 No.18733219

>>18733203
I've swiped through hundreds of bitches and the only girl I ever actually met irl was some girl I already knew from my childhood. She was cute but completely fucked in the head, was kind of depressing because all of my memories of her from childhood are of such a nice innocent girl. Every time I match with some bitch on hinge or bumble they just stop replying after a few messages. I have no idea how you're even supposed to message peopel on these stupid things and not have them ghost you

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 19:08:19 2021 No.18733227

>>18733219
>Every time I match with some bitch on hinge or bumble they just stop replying after a few messages. I have no idea how you're even supposed to message peopel on these stupid things and not have them ghost you
They are losing interest because you aren't making your move, women have a large amount of options, if you don't act fast they lose interest and go for the next guy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 19:10:47 2021 No.18733239 >>18733227 I've tried just asking them to get drinks in the first message but that never works either. How many messages do I have to send them before I ask them?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 19:12:11 2021 No.18733250 >>18733239 >How many messages do I have to send them before I ask them? That depends of each girl, trial and error.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 19:29:17 2021 No.18733321 Yes. If it doesn't then why read?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 19:32:05 2021 No.18733338 >>18733203 completely meaningless graph without stats on the duration and quality of these relationships

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 19:34:06 2021 No.18733348 >>18733189 >Would you prefer to live in India why go for this-or-that absurdities, there's a very nice middle ground between whatever hardcore traditionalism and this garbage we have now

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 19:40:50 2021 No.18733383 File: 20 KB, 1131x630, bellCurve1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] There's a strong bell curve in this thread. On the left, those who say "no". In the middle, those who say "yes". And on the right, it's just me, I know shit nobody else does

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 19:51:29 2021 No.18733450 >>18732299 manual labor is for slaves

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 20:01:47 2021 No.18733512

It's been okay but how do you guys deal with vocalising your thoughts after reading. My thought process is so convoluted now that everytime I open my mouth I have trouble completing a sentence. If it's something about a book I read I can't explain it at all.
It effects me a lot because I never used to be like this. Now I have people constantly saying "What are you even taking about." Or I just get weird looks.
I think I just have issues trying to dumb things down. I spent a couple of months increasing my vocabulary only to find out that I had to explain what every second word meant. Sometimes I couldn't even explain the definition of these words but I knew what they meant and how to use them.
It's a bit of a struggle and it's completely ruined all my confidence. It only started happening about a month ago.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 20:02:20 2021 No.18733515 >>18733450 all work is for slaves retard

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 20:22:42 2021 No.18733610 >>18733515 Slaves were not allowed to work out in Ancient Greece.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 20:25:49 2021 No.18733620 Philosophy doesn't give a shit about you. Philosophy isn't written to serve you. The philosopher serves knowledge, not the other way around. So no. Bunch of faggots itt

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 20:29:17 2021 No.18733639 reading brought me to Christ

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 20:37:49 2021 No.18733666 >>18729068 yes helped me grow as a person and reflect upon myself I started working out after I started reading a lot still no gf, though I've long stopped caring thatt

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 21:05:55 2021 No.18733771 >>18733610 you don't live in ancient greece retard

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 21:10:51 2021 No.18733795 >>18733771 then why are you equating working out with slavery? most retarded thing I've ever heard. how much do you weigh? post physique

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 21:43:53 2021 No.18733976 >>18733512 Talk more and organize your thought in arguments. Eventually become second nature. You'll just know where to go to make a point.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 21:44:55 2021 No.18733984 >>18733976 >[...] In writing. Sorry.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 21:51:46 2021 No.18734023 >>18730194 This only applies if you have no writing aspirations. If I didn't have a profound desire to write, yes, much of what I've read would have been a waste.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 21:53:30 2021 No.18734036 >>18730210 Well said, love Peter.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 22:01:15 2021 No.18734089

>>18729068
Besides the pleasure and occasional edification of good fiction, I think reading exercises that part of the mind which allows you to parse content (ie: writing that actually says something) from style (something that sounds pretty). In an era of numerous cult personalities rising across Youtube, TikTok, Instagram, etc., taking on politics or social trends or whathaveyou, having the ability to quickly sense their bullshit and recognize the emptiness of their words is helpful. I think reading as mere exercise is something that helps strengthen this ability.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 22:03:54 2021 No.18734103 Close the board. Reading has been proved useless.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 22:27:47 2021 No.18734230 >>18729068 Anastasia Cebulska is the most attractive women in the world.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 22:29:06 2021 No.18734241 >>18734230 > women woman*

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 00:32:22 2021 No.18734732 >>18729068 Non-fiction books, sure.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 00:57:54 2021 No.18734795 No. They're just books.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 01:02:29 2021 No.18734812 >>18732299 You will never know the power you are capable of if you don’t work out. To grow old and never experience the strength and beauty that a young man has potential to achieve would be a tragic life

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 01:05:09 2021 No.18734816 >>18731238 Die alone, miserable cynic

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 05:14:20 2021 No.18735353 >>18730703 Damn. Books turn you into a faggott

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 06:03:43 2021 No.18735483 >>18734812 Look at Socrates here.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 06:05:52 2021 No.18735488 >>18729068 Met my fwb by talking to her about Deleuze and Foucault so yeah I guess so lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 06:15:17 2021 No.18735504 >>18734812 you wagecuck and spend your money to LARP as a Greek man in a chicken pen

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 06:17:12 2021 No.18735509 >>18729068 >Has reading improved your life? Be honest. No, ignorance was bliss.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 06:18:58 2021 No.18735517 File: 1.80 MB, 320x180, kid2.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18729068 No. I'm currently reading Meditations and I'm getting the impressions that the book is telling me what I already know.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 06:21:08 2021 No.18735521 It’s given me a quasi-main-character syndrome without the cockiness, so it generally has helped my confidence - except for when I’m reading books like Notes from the Underground.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 06:30:26 2021 No.18735553 >>18730194 Yeah reading is cringe. The whole point is to do something with it, all I'm doing is jerking off over stuff that has no relevance to me that I'm never going to be able to apply.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 06:37:13 2021 No.18735575 >>18729068 I've been reading my entire life so I would have no idea.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 09:28:43 2021 No.18736060 >>18730210 Peter…

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 09:38:41 2021 No.18736120 >>18732308 what tactics work best? Give us examples

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 10:42:47 2021 No.18736434 >>18730252 >pussy tell the story anon

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Anonymous Wed Jul 28 11:24:47 2021 No.18736647

>>18732282
>>18734023
based. books can be useful just as they can be useless. and regardless of that you can consider having fun to be time well spent depending on the situation, even if it doesn't serve any other purpose... whether or not books make life better is not a question with a simple answer, so we should not pretend it is. and answer it in a more personal way, as OP asked it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 11:29:27 2021 No.18736664 >>18733383 what do you read mafucka

Anonymous Wed Jul 28 12:01:52 2021 No.18736817
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I feel living without much knowledge and thought lets you enjoy life more sometimes. It is like love. I think the people who never questioned what love is are the ones who find love. Whereas those are who seek the meaning of love enter a labyrinth without exit.

Positive side of knowledge is that you are less likely to be abused. It creates some sort of distrust towards everyone and everything.

Life is so weird. I wish we could live in a fantasy world living an adventure like in anime.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 12:03:09 2021 No.18736823 >>18736817 hmm janny isn't going to like this...

Anonymous Wed Jul 28 12:22:13 2021 No.18736910

I don't understand how it's possible to read a lot of fiction and not have your life improved. I've made friends by recommending people books who were touched by the books in the same way I was or were impressed by the style. Other than weight lifters there's no one else I genuinely and quickly get along with more quickly than someone who's read a lot of good classic literature. Oblomov helped me realize how I was living my life incorrectly. Infinite Jest (lol) made me actually give a fuck and empathize with addicts and people who i used to see in Boston and write off as lost causes. Stories help you situate yourself in whatever time you're living in--you see that other people have encountered the same difficulties with emotions, family, money, depression, whatever, and it makes you feel better and less lonely
This isn't even mentioning philosophy and non-fiction which, if you don't understand how those improve your life, you're a lost cause

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 12:23:02 2021 No.18736914 >>18729068 Yes. So many people are too lazy to read the simplest things. Makes me look like a genius in everything from school, work, other random stuff when really I'm just applying tips or directions.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 12:34:55 2021 No.18736969 >>18736817 Me as the nun.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 12:36:57 2021 No.18736976 >>18729068 Nope, it's substantially reduced the quality of my life. God I hope for death soon desu.

Anonymous Wed Jul 28 13:09:16 2021 No.18737212

>>18729068
Absolutely not. Although I can pet myself on the back knowing that I acquired some irrelevant information about some bearded man who lived 2000something years ago, reading itself hasn't solved any of my problems. Acquiring knowledge is a fun thing to do to pass time and perfecting your linguistic capabilities can help you achieve a higher level of consciousness but at the end of the day, reading will not magically make you be able to overcome childhood trauma, it will not help you make friends and relationships, it will not summon a gf from the ether, it will not make you rich and it will not help you live the life you wish to live. All the enjoyment I get out of reading stems from learning about the glory in which our ancestors basked in and the wisdom of some, which they acquired just by observing things. Reading for the sake of reading is the same thing as playing vidya, watching movies or jacking of 9 times a day, minus the dopamine hits which are exclusive to the latter 3. All in all, in today's world, reading is a looser's past time, like every other hobby which does not have to include other people. The more I read, the more I yearn to live in any, and I mean ANY other historical period.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 13:21:22 2021 No.18737308 Yes, I’m more sensitive and it helps my self-diagnosed aspergers

Anonymous Wed Jul 28 14:21:40 2021 No.18737642

>>18737212
>The more I read, the more I yearn to live in any, and I mean ANY other historical period.
Really? You would rather sweat your balls off in 18th century London in the summer without AC and with the smell of human shit pouring into your nostrils any time you walked down the street? And no way to communicate with anyone far away from you except for letters which take weeks to arrive, or might never arrive at all? And no films? And no easy access to books? And no antibiotics?

Anonymous Wed Jul 28 14:31:35 2021 No.18737680

They say I got brains
But they ain't doing me no good
I wish they could

Each time things start to happen again
I think I got something good going for myself
But what goes wrong

Sometimes I feel very sad
Sometimes I feel very sad
Sometimes I feel very sad

I guess I just wasn't made for these times

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 17:02:12 2021 No.18738466 >>18729068 I can't say it's made my life better, but they do keep me from killing myself. So that's good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 17:11:54 2021 No.18738544 File: 4 KB, 228x303, 1621035987290.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18737680

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 17:19:20 2021 No.18738598 File: 43 KB, 511x381, aint much.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18737680 >But they ain't doing me no good Sounds like this was written by picrel

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 17:20:26 2021 No.18738604 >>18738598 KEK no, more like Amy Winehouse incel anon version.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 17:48:08 2021 No.18738772 File: 59 KB, 299x450, 9780143133148.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18737642 This. It's the best time to be alive and it's still shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 18:04:04 2021 No.18738867 >>18737212 >The more I read, the more I yearn to live in any, and I mean ANY other historical period. Currently reading Don Quixote and 1600s Spain sounds incredibly comfy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 19:57:47 2021 No.18739458 >>18729068 no

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 20:00:24 2021 No.18739468 >>18729068 I just read a book after God knows how long... a year? Better than playing vidya.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 23:27:46 2021 No.18740569 >>18731933 thats why I read, litterally to know and understand things other people don't know. It feels very exciting to me that i am able to increase my knowledge. It's purely intrinsic

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 23:28:40 2021 No.18740571 >>18735517 read meno

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 23:30:03 2021 No.18740578 >>18731953 I have stopped reading in general and I have shifted my attention to just doing my work, drawing(and playing vidya and watching youtube as a reward at the end of a work week) I feel like I am becoming less intelligent as a result of it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 23:35:39 2021 No.18740608 yes before reading i was an industrial sized cringe production machine. after reading i learned how to keep my thoughts inside my head and now nobody knows i am an industrial sized cringe production machine

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 23:38:15 2021 No.18740619 File: 32 KB, 564x662, 1626744240962.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18729068 Those saying "no" lack life experience. Failure to launch syndrome.

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 00:07:22 2021 No.18740750

>>18732614
I get that. I’m always tempted to just pick one insight and run with it. Because no one insight is infallible or in any way provably better than the other. Just pick something and do it? And look up solutions to problems when you get stuck? Who knows.

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 00:10:40 2021 No.18740761

>>18729068
No. It fucked it up, probably.

Before I became an avid reader I had plans, I had dreams. I was going to be an engineer.
Then after reading massively during the three last years secondary education I decided that I should better study letters in university.

Needless to say, I don't have a job. I wish I had gone into engineering.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 00:29:44 2021 No.18740823 >>18740761 > I decided that I should better study letters in university. You're too stupid for engineering anon. It's better this way.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 01:19:16 2021 No.18740999 >>18730937 On the Heights of Despair is on my to-read list now

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 02:07:51 2021 No.18741174 >>18729068 i'm more "aware" you could say, but i'm not happier

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 02:09:17 2021 No.18741179 >>18732586 How is it your self to be, if the only authentic aspect of it arises when you release any conscious control over it?

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 02:16:02 2021 No.18741213

>>18734241
>he doesn't know
"Anastasia Cebulska" is something like an art project, an abstract identity maintained by an unknown number of lookalikes, social media managers and filmmakers. They're creating another level of what it means to be a celebrity. It's not like the old school model where one person is propped up by millions of dollars of investments and marketing, and it's not quite the Nip new school hologrammical Hatsune Miku style celebrity. Something in between.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 02:29:47 2021 No.18741254 >>18740569 I've found it isolating as I've gotten older.

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 02:40:07 2021 No.18741282

Taleb's work has stopped me falling into despair and helped me understand the insanity of society. It's also responsible for a lot of decisions where I made a lot of money.

The Mind Illuminated and practicing it literally changed my second by second conscious experience of the world, permanently.

The Bible, particularly the gospels have made me less of a cunt and have brought peace while engaging in worldly things.

Tolstoy's writings again made me feel less alone, and brought me to the bible.

Various textbooks gave me skills I've been using, helped me to understand math, proofs and what a formal system is.

That's all that comes to mind right now. There have been some negative effects, for example I'm not a fan of Plato with his republic bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 04:40:31 2021 No.18741619 >>18729068 It did, and it did so by a considerable margin.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 04:43:40 2021 No.18741623 >>18730194 Kant once said that reading without actually thinking about what you've read won't do much for you, and that's the case for you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 05:00:55 2021 No.18741657 File: 1.46 MB, 576x850, humph.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18741619 How and what did you have to read?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 05:10:53 2021 No.18741686 >>18729068 it helps pass the time and my daydream game is better than ever

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 07:17:57 2021 No.18741992

>>18737642
>You would rather sweat your balls off in 18th century London in the summer without AC
temperatures have been skyrocketing
>with the smell of human shit pouring into your nostrils any time you walked down the street?
thanks to rapefugees this is a reality today
>And no way to communicate with anyone far away from you except for letters which take weeks to arrive
this is an improvement
>And no films?
>And no easy access to books?
if one for some reason felt the need to become literate it was possible to learn to read and write
there was more social mobility in the past than today
>And no antibiotics?
Who fucking cares. I'd have a loyal wife and kids who aren't autistic robots who talk like a TV ad

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 07:21:56 2021 No.18742003 >>18741992 >loyal >wife you need to read more 4channel posts if you think this is biologically possible

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 07:30:59 2021 No.18742028 >>18742003 More than 50% of women today engage in some form of infidelity during their marriages, I'm sure this wasn't the case centuries ago.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 07:39:40 2021 No.18742053 >>18742028 >I'm sure this wasn't the case centuries ago read more 4channel threads

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 11:40:12 2021 No.18743060 >>18730314 Based >>18732299 > Olympians and athletes are all faggots > implying getting weaker and less healthy as you age is acceptable Dude, ever thought that maybe you are in the wrong?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 11:43:35 2021 No.18743082 >>18729068 yes reading all my textbooks was way faster than going to lectures but that's probably not what you meant

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 11:49:18 2021 No.18743104 >>18729068 No, it has made it worse I think. At least somewhat worse. Reading 1984 as a babby and then the Idiot in my early twenties was a fucking mistake. No way back now so I am doubling down

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 11:51:49 2021 No.18743118

>>18729068
Reading novels or listening to poetry most of the times helps me feel better through out the day. It gives me something to think about but not very heavy. When reading philosophy though i would say i backtrack into the most miserable state, trying to reveal imaginitive creations behind words it just ruins the world for me, The cute girl that usually squats next to me during my morning workouts is a phony bitch, cluess and inferior. Just staring at her it convinces me that i would have nothing in common with her. But then again i am reading philosophy in a slow pace, started from the greeks now i am at 19th century. I think reading the chad wittgenstein will salvage me me from this misery and make world what trump failed to do with america, great again.

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 11:56:40 2021 No.18743139

>>18729068
reading saved my life.
I was born pre-internet in a small hick town. which was fine for them but as a teenager I couldn't find more than a couple people who could carry a meaningful conversation or who had any curiosity about the world beyond the town limits. but the library saved me from suicide.
moved out as soon as I could, went to school, got into publishing and now a writer myself.
earn a decent living and literate women are fascinated by authors so there's that too

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 12:00:22 2021 No.18743154 >>18743139 what are you writing anon? i am literate man interested in you, no homo.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 12:21:41 2021 No.18743279 >>18730314 This >>18732299 You know nothing Since I started lifting so many girls are giving me these horny looks, I didn't fuck them but definitely could've

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 12:40:50 2021 No.18743420 >>18729068 I wouldn't have re-started reading if my life wasn't a complete mess lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 12:43:50 2021 No.18743437 >>18743060 Are you really so out of touch that you think you can't get fit through manual labor? You think a mason doesn't lift more than you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 13:38:00 2021 No.18743812 oh yea its made me think about things a lot more and from different perspectives. kind of a cliche answer but its true.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 13:39:19 2021 No.18743821 >>18729068 >Be honest. Literally impossible, and also not the point.

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 13:44:42 2021 No.18743853
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>>18729068
Yes, very much. It has filled my life with a sense of meaning and joy, has made me able to see the absolute bullcrap that is most of culture, politics and intellectuals and has made me more knowledgeable. I can also argue better.

Best influence on my life was a thourough understanding of Nietzsche, but most other stuff (like DFW eg) has also contributed.

It's a tough journey and it's never over, but I've feel there's a tipping point from where reading and insight destroys all your previous beliefs to reading making you strong and insightful in order to be able to live a life of cheer, joy, creation and production.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 13:53:53 2021 No.18743928 >>18729068 Ive collected more knowledge i suppose i still dont have anyone to share it with though

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 13:54:18 2021 No.18743930

>>18730640
Like the other guy said, reading, especially classic literature, can help you be a better communicator. Things that sound retardedly obvious to someone who reads, will seem brilliant coming out of your mouth when talking to a girl. After getting to know a girl I’d say something like, “I feel like you have a fear of being misunderstood.” Which is something everyone fears in relationships, but the girls think you’re some sort of emotional intelligence savant or psychic who can see into their soul. If you’re not too nerdy and you’re subtle with it. I think this is because it conveys a breadth of emotional experience, even if you don’t have any. And experience is very attractive to women.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 17:52:44 2021 No.18745522 >>18729068 I don't read

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 18:03:04 2021 No.18745606 >>18729068 I think so yeah. It's both thanks to what it adds and removes. I enjoy my free time a lot more now. I replaced a lot of dead social media time with reading. And it helped reignite my curiosity, branch out my tastes, and so on.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 19:13:00 2021 No.18745999 >>18730277 >Reading books isn't always about 'reading', it can be as much about what you are not doing to fill the time. This

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 19:19:22 2021 No.18746033 >>18730703 >In general, sharing stories is a great thing and I love being in the mental space where people share stories I feel this way as well

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 19:22:09 2021 No.18746045 >>18742028 >I'm sure this wasn't the case centuries ago read more

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 19:28:22 2021 No.18746074

>>18730277
This concept is called opportunity cost. He could also have learnt woodcraft, fishing, metal crafting, had kids, dancing, scientific theory in a practical application (in other words: faster and better) instead, which statistically are more likely outcomes of autistic people posting about mongolian baskets online than rape, murder and warring.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 19:28:40 2021 No.18746077 >>18732584 whats the channel name

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 19:58:24 2021 No.18746257 >>18746074 I do work on my wood when I'm not reading

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 20:25:08 2021 No.18746419

>>18729068
Yes, exponentially. My household growing up was chock-full of abuse and neglect, and books were one of the best ways I had to cope with it. As I got older I became more aware of how said abuse affected my soci development and I was able to find a sort of kinship with writers when my real relationships had difficulties. Now with the insight I've gained from reading (all sorts, fiction, poetry, philosophy, etc...), therapy, and instensive self-reflection, I've been able to deal with a lot of my issues and have been able to come into my own. Books weren't the only thing, but they were one of the most important.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 20:42:00 2021 No.18746508 >>18732299 What a shame for a man to die without ever having known the limits to which his body was capable. --Socrates

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 20:45:51 2021 No.18746535 >>18729068 No. I thought reading would make me smarter, but now I feel dumber than ever. I think I expected reading to give me more knowledge than it did.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 20:46:19 2021 No.18746540 >>18733102 It's pretty simple. Book a photographer for a 1 hour session. Take multiple outfits. Bam, you've got the entire profile.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 20:46:26 2021 No.18746543 >>18746535 What have you been reading!?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 20:47:34 2021 No.18746550 >>18746540 KEK unironically calling the other anon fugly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 20:54:08 2021 No.18746598 >>18741992 Statistically speaking, if you lived in 18c London you'd probably die in the middle of your 14-hour shift, dead of cholera or flu or a fucking untreated tooth infection, childless, penniless, and utterly disposable.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 21:00:46 2021 No.18746638 >>18746550 That wasn't me, the comment you replied to was my first itt

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 23:41:11 2021 No.18747541

>>18729068
I think it has given me more confidence as in my head it makes me think im smarter or something.
On the other hand it gives me random quotes, thoughts and ideas i can pass off as mine when chatting with friends to not appear as the less idiotic of the bunch.
I just don't abuse those things, cause i'll end up looking like a retard, maybe more than normal.

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 23:46:06 2021 No.18747559

>>18746540
Different anon but can something like that be done in a place where no one goes without the photographer being scared of you mugging him?
Cause the only think that has stopped me from something like that is the fear of being in a public place and being watched by randos

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 23:54:00 2021 No.18747599
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>>18729068
Maybe. On one hand it helps me cope with being a socially inept unskilled retard, on the other hand coping might be what brought me to this point
>>18730194
I feel similarly about reading although I wouldn't say it's just the same as film and vidya because it's clearly not. Print isn't inherently superior like philosophyfags who just think all day would tell you, but it has its own merits. The fact that reading is less immersive than the visual medium really helps you analyze works more objectively without being influenced by your emotions, although understanding works itself might not even be helpful in the long run if you're not getting anything out of it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 00:00:41 2021 No.18747628 >>18734230 Anastasia fucks 3/10 balding Chinese executives for modelling gigs and money

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 00:27:28 2021 No.18747700 >>18729068 Big yes

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 02:08:53 2021 No.18748057 >>18747559 Yeah some photographers do house calls. But in this scenario you want somewhere with varied backgrounds like a park, garden, or art district.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 02:24:09 2021 No.18748121 >>18747628 I don't doubt she did so in the past, but she's married now. I know this fact triggers your autism but please keep it in check

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 02:41:05 2021 No.18748176 >>18729068 Isn't she a Christian, at least officially?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 02:46:22 2021 No.18748201 >>18741657 Ew

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 02:47:46 2021 No.18748207 >>18746598 Cope. All you lazyfags don’t realise that humans adapt based on how each experience of their childhood is contextually.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 02:52:21 2021 No.18748224 >>18730099 No you aren't. Christ loves you and has plans for you. Go and follow him

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 03:08:05 2021 No.18748271 >>18747559 I think you have bigger problems than that

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 03:09:34 2021 No.18748273 >>18748224 I've tried. Sorry.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 03:52:49 2021 No.18748416 How quick we are to judge others. How brilliantly we map out their true desires and motivations. Yet, we don't have that vantage point for ourselves -- always looking from within. Reading offers it.

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