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Holy fuck, I used to laugh at smug western buddhists when they said shit like "buddhism is scientific" but this book makes a really convincing case for their kind of metaphysics. Does anyone know other good books that talk about this whole holographic theory?

>> No.18718480

>>18718451
Not a book, but this guy explains and has a few references too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4m81qy8ufc&ab_channel=RadhaMohanDas-VedicScience

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Herbert Guenther's works

>> No.18718591

>>18718451
>A Remarkable New Theory of Reality That Explains:
>the Paranormal Abilities of the Mind
hmm...

>> No.18718902

>>18718451
Did you think they just made the shit up? They arent jews

https://esotericawakening.com/what-is-reality-the-holofractal-universe

>> No.18718913

>>18718902
Why haven't abrahamic religions caught up though? I mean the holographic universe theory is basically a secular description of sunyata and indra's net, it maps on perfectly.

>> No.18718926

>>18718913
The Abrahamic religions have some of it but jews gonna jew so it is in code really. SOme of that is mentioned in this article

https://esotericawakening.com/the-occult-significance-of-the-number-6

The Jews plagiarized the vedas to create their slave/master system and mixed it with a bunch retard level shit because most people arent smart enough to really understand this stuff. It is easier to just tell "believe in zombie space jew and you get to go to heaven."

I mean just imagine the type of mind that would buy into this retarded shit. They are obviously hylics, hylics neither seek out or have any need for higher knowledge

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>>18718913
forgot pic rel

>> No.18719286

>>18718926
>>18718934
Why are jews so evil

>> No.18719317

>>18718451
>but this book makes a really convincing case for their kind of metaphysics.
The Buddhists have no sound explanation for *why* the holographic etc universe or samsara exists, does that book have a proposal or explanation for why?

>> No.18719342

>>18719317
I'm not done with it yet but so far not really.

>> No.18719348

>>18719286
they are the cancer of the kali yuga, shivites, here to bring the darkness of the age

>> No.18719445

The book OP is talking about is written by a man who believes spaghetti materialised on his chest because of the "holographic universe"

>> No.18719448

>>18719445
that's based

>> No.18719450

midwit central

>> No.18719454

>>18719445
prove it didnt or eat shit pseud

>> No.18719458

>>18719450
Post your enlightened take then, faggot

>> No.18719461

>>18719317
>The Buddhists have no sound explanation for *why* the holographic etc universe or samsara exists,
No one does, how could a human mind possibly know that? Only God knows that dumb dumb

>> No.18719464

>>18719445
Indeed, those sorts of experiences have inspired many of the greatest minds. Very promising, I'll have to look into the book.

>> No.18719473

>>18719458
>dude buddhism.... and like...... holograms bro *hits bong*

>> No.18719487

>>18719473
>afraid of posting his own take, just strawmans the ideas of others
Ok coward

>> No.18719493

>>18719473
filtered cope

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>>18718451
Schopenhauer said his Philosophy was mirrored curiously by Eastern thought late when the Upanishads and Buddhist texts were finally circulating in print to Europe.

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>>18719505
>dude.... what if the.... what if the will was a hologram bro

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>>18719518
Pretty much

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>>18718913
They can't catch up. They divide subject and object, divine and nature, creator and created, and so forth.

>> No.18719554

>Because the implicate order is the foundation that has given birth to everything in our universe, at the very least it also contains every subatomic particle that has been or will be; every configuration of matter, energy life, and consciousness that is possible [...]. Bohm concedes that there is no reason to believe the implicate order is the end of things. There may be other undreamed of orders beyond it, infinite stages of further development.
What does he means by this last statement? What is "beyond" everything that can possibly exist?

>> No.18719570

>>18719552
Not the esoteric strands at least. Hermetic Christianity, Sufism and Kabbalah have less naive metaphysics.

>> No.18719590

>>18719552
>divine and nature
Pantheism is not right though, the divine is nature but also beyond it, the truth is closer to panentheism, although it is indescribable

>> No.18719596

>>18719590
the truth is panpsycism mate

>> No.18719603

>>18719570
>eastern common sense abrahamoid esotericism
ngmi wait until you find out there are esoteric Buddhist and Hindu schools

>> No.18719606

>>18719590
the gods are just personifications of mechanical processes withint he matrix

>> No.18719618

>>18719603
Tantra/Vajrayana isn't that mindblowing though compared to the exoteric schools.

>> No.18719626

>>18719590
Someone always comes along to say this, without fail, that his neologism is superior to the other one, adding nothing except his desire to preserve the transcendence of god against a doctrine of immanence which threatens it

>> No.18719639

>>18719618
I agree but it tends to work through the implications or consequences of the exoteric doctrine of nonduality more thoroughly

>> No.18719678

>>18719626
I'm not arguing against immanence, just saying that limiting God to it is narrow-minded, you assume there is nothing beyond nature

>> No.18719693

>>18719639
I've been wanting to get deeper into Vajrayana, there are some initiations available where I live, but I'm getting filtered by anatman

>> No.18719711

>>18719678
You are rescuing god from it so I would say you are arguing against it.

>> No.18719723

>>18719711
It comes down to whether you believe nature is all there is or if you believe it's not

>> No.18719730

>>18719461
>No one does,
Hinduism and in particular Advaita Vedanta does
> how could a human mind possibly know that? Only God knows that dumb dumb
Well yes, really only God or something equivalent to Him is a viable explanation for “why”, we can put other alternatives to the test of logic though and they all fail, leaving God as the only viable explanation.

>> No.18719751

>>18719596
The truth is quietism

>> No.18719755

>>18719723
If nature is the expression of a god which contains all things in his body/potential/power, then there really isn't anything outside of this. If god is not what he expresses but something other than what is expressed, for all intents and purposes he would not exist.

>> No.18719757

>>18719755
Then pantheism and panentheism are equivocal.

>> No.18719763

>>18718451
I haven't read it yet but The Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe: A New Kind of Reality Theory by Langan is probably decent. Also, Process and Reality.

>> No.18719808

>>18719757
Well to me the latter only exists to preserve god for some priestly or ideological reason against the former's plain immanence.

>> No.18719848

>>18719755
God is something other than what is expressed, He's plainly also called the unmanifest in all sorts of religions. He doesn't exist if being is taken to be physical, but physicalism has problems.

>> No.18720002

>>18719848
>physicalism has problems.
to say the least

>> No.18720184

>>18719808
The latter is more about intellectual rigor or the admission that there could exist something beyond nature that is inconceivable

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>bugman religion conforms to bugman science
Go figure.

>> No.18720270

>>18720267
What are your religious beliefs?

>> No.18720311

>>18720184
You can't conceive nature as a whole anyway so why create a supernature? It's redundant. Speaks to a social motive.

>> No.18720325

if you want to get into buddhism i suggest you try to drop all your western preconceptions; atleast after a certain point, once you are immersed enough into it. i heard there is compatibility but I find it much easier to study and understand buddhism & pali canon etc by not mucking it up with anything else

>Nan-in, a Japanese master during the Meiji era (1868–1912), received a university professor who came to inquire about Zen.

>Nan-in served tea. He poured his visitor’s cup full, and then kept on pouring.

>The professor watched the overflow until he no longer could restrain himself. “It is overfull. No more will go in!”

>“Like this cup,” Nan-in said, “you are full of your own opinions and speculations. How can I show you Zen unless you first empty your cup?”

>> No.18720358

Pantheism is atheism. You believe everything is god so really nothing is god. It is at best a means for fedoras to weasel their way into religious discussion to regurgitate their hot takes about theism under the guise of being under some religion.

>> No.18720368

>>18720358
>god being everywhere means he is nowhere
>everything is nothing
dumb take

>> No.18720432

>>18718902
Schizo but in a good way

>> No.18720444

>>18720358
The priestly nihilist reveals himself.

>> No.18720464

This is probably a retarded question but is there any way to reconcile Buddhist metaphysics with Christianity at all? I want to know if these two religions are even slightly compatible

>> No.18720467

>>18720368
>Is [something] =/= being [located somewhere]; Pantheism is "God is everything"
>the giant log of shit I just dumped, serial killers, me, you, an earthworm (you), and a rock are all God; this doesn't make the idea of God and divinity completely pointless and redundant!
Continue to cope. Pantheism is the go-to when it comes to atheists trying to get back in touch with their "spirituality".
>>18720444
Mega projection.

>> No.18720497

>>18720467
>god and his creation are ontologically separate; this doesn't make the idea of god and divinity metaphysically unsustainable!
Continue to seethe. Theism is the go-to when it comes to teenagers trying to get back in touch with their "traditions".

>> No.18720568

>>18720497
I never said god and his creation were completely separate. Only deism unironically say that is the case and that is an crypto-atheist cope like the other extreme of pantheism is.
I'll take my leave in this argument in light of you having devolved into literal kindergartner shit of "let's repeat what he said but flip some words and aim it back at him."

>> No.18720589

>>18720568
>I never said god and his creation were completely separate.
You implied it, retard. If "god is everywhere means he is nowhere" is true then that means he can't be anywhere else than in a place separate from "everywhere"

>> No.18720598

>>18719552
>t. Has never read the Holy Fathers or Lossky

>> No.18720632

>>18720589
>You implied it, retard.
>you disagreeing with one extreme must mean you agree with the other!
Lay off of this place for a while, you are getting dichotomy-brain. A bit ironic for a monist/non-dualist.

>> No.18720639

>>18720632
Thought you were taking your leave, but here you are still seething. Nice job dodging my argument by the way kek

>> No.18720646

>>18720598
>has some heretical e-interpretation of Christianity not held to by actually religious Christians

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>>18720639
I "dodged" your argument because I didn't necessarily disagree with it. Yes, God is, in some degree, separate from "everything", but that would be too much for your hylic brain to wrap your head around.
Keep going on childishly about how I'm totally "seething" when we are both sitting behind our computers mildly irritated at best.

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>>18720432
I wrote it my dude

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>>18718451
Leonard Susskind. For a book see pic, for a general lecture see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DIl3Hfh9tY

>> No.18721018

>>18719286

The only rational explanation is that Jesus is actually the one true God, and in rejecting Him they have gone completely insane.

There is literally no other explanation that makes a lick of sense.

>> No.18721089

>>18719570

The rehashed neoplatonic project in Hermeticism, Sufism, and Kaballah are the same naive project that reduces to relativism, solopsism, and subjectivism. These fake metaphysics just reduce to "everything is fake" and as we all know, whatever if fake must also be gay, which is why alchemy has a tranny mascot - the rebis.

Only Orthodox Christianity reveals the true triadic metaphysics of the world - of nature, person, and energy, and each of those principles origins in the respective persons of the Godhead - the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

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>>18721089

>> No.18721253

>>18720730
isn't God both present in and separate from everything?

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>>18719552
>Knowingly Dividing the continua and then believing the categories themselves
ISHYGDDT

>> No.18721278

>>18721253

Yes, but this is only coherent in Orthodox Christianity, where God's essence is separate from everything, but his energies (ie, his actions) are in everything.

Every other metaphysical system, at some point, smashes both of these categories together, or combines the created and uncreated essences.

>> No.18721283

>>18721275
Everytime you make a category in favor of the continue Sapolsky grows more haircurls and grows exponentially strong like Samson

>> No.18721290

>>18721253
I read one description that said god is the principle of manifestation of beings, he is Being itself, that which gives to each being its being

>> No.18721292

>>18720358
It's a way out of your cult and I'll take it. Even if your cynical accusation is true the fact remains that I CAN fight pulpil with my own pulpil disingenuously or fervently as I wish and it makes no difference politically

>> No.18721315

Just out of curiosity what benefit would it be to listen to a Buddhist instead of I don't know Spinoza or Schopenhauer?

>> No.18721405

>>18721292

>fighting pilpul with pilpul

and so your enemies have won: they have turned you into a jew in everything but bloodline

>> No.18721417

>>18721405
More realistically: you cant beat psychopaths at the game of power without basically emulating them to the point you are barely any different. Evil always has more hands to play than good, which is restricted by its morality. Evil does cause problems of its own for cooperation but the ideal balance to gain power will always involve using some evil options.

>> No.18721429

>>18719618
What do you mean by that?

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>>18718451
>Does anyone know other good books that talk about this whole holographic theory?
Maybe the Fractal idea has subsumed the Holographic idea, to represent that all can be encoded in minutiae i.e. moon is reflected in a dewdrop idea of Dogen zen. Zen has a kind of scientific method in the process of realization and verification and lineage credentialing. 'How the Hippies Saved Physics' is a related book somewhat up to date.

>> No.18721594

>>18721488
go to a jewtube channel called electric universe

>> No.18721660

>>18721315
It should not take you terribly long to read the Heart Sutra, the Ethics, and The World as Will and Representation, and decide for yourself what appeals to you.

>> No.18721888

It is interesting to note that due to the law of causality only certain creation events are logical. First instance, our creation must be due to a Uncreated, Eternal being which through non-random selection begins a process.

I say that because a few popular theories run into some trouble. Take for instance Chaotic Inflation, well that possesses an infinite regress (potential infinity vs actual infinity). Stephen Hawking's Grand Design postulates a prior infinite amount of time for a process to occur due to its incredibly small chance, but if it truly takes infinite time then it never occurs. How about a multiverse which has been perpetually creating infinite universes? Well, that's a beginningless process and seeing as God Himself could not always be creating angels that too is impossible.

So hypothetically, instances of the Tao(moving from unmanifest to manifest), the Implicate Order(condensing information), and a Primal Morphic Field(learning from itself), could all logically occur with some sort of inherent intelligent principles guiding their evolution.
I personally believe in a Divine Ground of Being(God) though, due to solving the ontological problem (what is existence?).

>> No.18722175

>>18720464
The big stumbling block of reconciling abrahamism with eastern religions is reincarnation and cyclical time. Haven't seen the perennialists handle that, yet.

>> No.18722185

>>18718902
Bodhi.

>> No.18722293

Somebody post the part where Talbot talks about how he turned into a werewolf one time.

No I’m not joking

>> No.18722315

>>18722185
wut

>> No.18722321

>>18722315
Why u always link ur own articles. Also what's up man.

>> No.18722350

>>18722293
What does he take before succumbing to these illusions?

>> No.18722364

>>18720325
read 'How the Swans Came to the Lake' for a history of Buddhism coming to the West, Buddhism's history is a continuous culture clash, it has been mucking for 2500 years. Sure, reading the Pali Canon (http://www.ahandfulofleaves.org) is an admirable pursuit, but it is nice to be scientifically literate also.

>> No.18722375

>>18722321
wtf am I supposed to link? I didnt spend years of my life doing research and hours of writing them for nothing. I summed up what someone can read in a less than hour that would take them an entire book to understand anywhere else and even then often times the books arent as encompassing as many topics or as thorough often times.

Im chilling doing some forex trading

>> No.18722408

>>18722375
Nice man.

>> No.18722437

>>18722408
also the esoterica stuff is a non-threatening good way to get their foot in the door and perhaps they will stick around and find out about the psychopaths trying to murder and enslave us all. In case you havent picked up on it it is a rather pressing issue and you are either gonna be having to fight the retards or recruit them at some point. I would like for them to be at least a little informed about wtf is going on and who is behind it. naw mean guv?

>> No.18722447

Just read the heart sutra dude. Don't waste your time with all that filler.

>> No.18722474

>>18722437
Yes my friend.

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>>18722474
have a pretty persian girl for your collection my dude

>> No.18722517

>>18722509
I don't think I am who you think I am but that's a cool picture so thanks for sharing it with me.

>> No.18722520

>>18722517
I wasnt trying to figure out who you are my dude, I respect your anonymity. Just two bros shooting the shit

>> No.18722530

>>18722520
64°48'9.546"N 13°56'15.020"E

>> No.18722762

>>18718451
The sad thing is, there's working science at the core of it. Scientific American had some interesting stuff about it around 20y ago. Then some ratbags come around and write a book like this.

>> No.18722795

>>18718451
Does this book actually say something novel, or is it just Gnosticism with gay ass modern computer technology aesthetics?

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>>18721089
Whatever you say Mr. Dyer.

>> No.18723039

>>18721018
>The only rational explanation
Not really.
>>18721089
>"everything is fake"
But this is true.

>> No.18723043

>>18721089
Cucktinaity and truth never belong int he same sentence. Someone this fucking stupid should be laughed at and mocked relentlessly

>> No.18723047

>>18722175
No way to reconcile Jesus with Buddhism either. Can't say he's just a deva because that goes against everything he said.

>> No.18723362

>>18722795
It's not gnosticism at all, it doesn't say the world is a prison

>> No.18723528

>>18722762
I don't get your point.

>> No.18723766

>>18718902
You certainly write about lot of stuff being "provable science". It started OK with the bit about math, but then rollercoasted into schizo ramblings. Come on, man. Atlantis, seriously?

>> No.18723767

>>18723766
>he hasn't read Hermocrates

>> No.18723771

>>18723766
>The reason there were giants in the ancient world is because they were vibrating at higher frequencies than we do with a weaker magnetic field making them less dense and therefore more ethereal in nature
Fucking hell, man.

>> No.18723774

>>18723771
This guy has been spamming this link in every thread related to spirituality for some time, just leave it alone. The book posted in the OP provides a similar take with less stupid shit, more actual sources, and more interesting connections being drawn

>> No.18723786

>>18723774
Alright. Thanks. I'm not aversed to this esoteric stuff, I try to maintain an open mind, but these guys while well intentioned sometimes don't know what a filter is.

>> No.18723798

>>18723786
Honestly it's not even esoteric, the theory is presented in a factual way with a lot of interesting parallels being drawn to various other subjects. The authors makes some minor mistakes (like the common misinterpretation of the double slit experiment as a proof that consciousness affects the behavior of subatomic particles) but overall it's pretty solid and insightful, and even if you disagree with the metaphysical worldview being presented, it'll give you things to ponder considering the breadth of subjects being brought up.

>> No.18723821

>>18723766
Atlantis is really not entirely impossible. Pretty out there but it's just a sunken island that had an old civilization on it

>> No.18723827

>>18723774
>>18723798
Are you fucking kidding me the guy thinks he can turn into a werewolf

>> No.18723863

>>18723827
>he can't turn into a werewolf

>> No.18724431

>>18722509
Got any more persian jezebels, friend?

>> No.18724555

>>18722509
Stop fetishizing foreign women, dumb sexpat.

>> No.18724909

>>18724555
no

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>>18723766
>schizo ramblings = I wasnt smart enough or educated enough to understand it
All students of the mysteries know their origin comes from Atlantis, well I should all the students who aren't plebs. Since this is babby's first steps into the mysteries it is no surprise you got filtered so easily. I guess I will spoonfeed you even more since you are so helpless and incompetent. This is my personal collection, enjoy
https://ugetube.com/@bodhi_mantra?page=play-lists


>>18723771
the giants are a provable fact and the science isnt hard to understand for people with a triple digit IQ. I explained it as simply as I could for you, you obviously got filtered as well. Getting filtered on something this easy to understand and so well explained is embarrassing friend, you shouldn't advertise it so openly.

>>18723774
keep seething simpleton, this a board about books and writing. I put my money where my mouth was and wrote something, what have you written cuck? Oh nothing? You just run your mouth at your betters because you are a spiteful loser? Sad!


>>18724431
I do my dude
https://www.google.com/search?q=mahafsoun+persian&sxsrf=ALeKk00FisiAHzCjLI605CJ8rV2fc6p9VQ:1627321935514&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjmwprPpoHyAhVNa80KHeOhC5wQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1366&bih=667#imgrc=1nob1Su4-AofHM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNR3E1dAPSk

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEHLgKHNOrIISywYKtAqccA

>> No.18725222

>>18724555
persians are aryan, they are our people. stop seething

>> No.18725286

>>18723774
There is nothing in my article or my entire website that isnt sourced and proven for FACT beyond any questions. You are more than welcome to challenge anything on it you think is "stop shit." I want you to do it int he comments so there is a permanent record of your idiocy when I clown your monkey ass in full public view. Just say when, I check the comments every few days. The day you do anything to help people searching for the truth is the day you can stand on equal footing with me until then know your place shudra

>> No.18725297

>>18725286
*stupid shit

>> No.18725375

>>18718451

Buddhism, at least Theravada, is Materialism itself.

>> No.18725380

>>18725375
>what is Yogacara
Buddhism is the opposite of materialism, literally.

>> No.18725384

>>18723798
>the common misinterpretation of the double slit experiment as a proof that consciousness affects the behavior of subatomic particles

>He doesn't know about quantum erasure and noetics

What is common is people commonly saying other people have misinterpreted this when it is in fact they who have misinterpreted it because instead of actually doing the research they went to the first link jewgle gave them and just repeated what they read. It is called the Von Neumann–Wigner interpretation and has since been proven to be correct beyond any doubt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Neumann%E2%80%93Wigner_interpretation

Noetics - Mind Over Matter
https://ugetube.com/watch/noetics-mind-over-matter_MpidybLEBBdLmHk.html

New Experiments Show Consciousness Affects Matter ~ Dean Radin Ph.D
https://ugetube.com/watch/new-experiments-show-consciousness-affects-matter-dean-radin-ph-d_4vDnuzDBb4tqRZq.html

>> No.18725393

>>18725384
My bad, thank you for clarifying. I was under the impression that "consciousness affects behavior" was a misinterpretation of "observation influences behavior" which itself was caused by the observation device not being able to observe without influencing the particle's behavior.
This sounds very interesting, I'll check those links out.

>> No.18725402

>>18725375
>>18725380
Both wrong, Buddhism is the synthesis of materialism and spiritualism.

>> No.18725409

>>18724909
Good job on accelerating the Kalergi plan, dumb pawn of Jews.
>>18725222
Persians are largely Gedrosian farmers and don't have much Aryan admixture.

>> No.18725418

>>18725402
That would be Christianity.

>> No.18725424

>>18725402
You should read Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism, so you can cut through spiritual materialism

>> No.18725431

>>18725424
gimmi summary
>>18725418
christianity is spiritualism

>> No.18725433

>>18725393
no worries sorry I got a little sassy. When you are attacked by retards because what you are talking about is too hard for them to understand one can get a little defensive. (you arent the retard the other two plebs running lip is who I am talking about).

Enjoy mate, good stuff. Also I linked to my personal video collection above, you will find lots more stuff to enjoy there is you have some time to waste and want to consume some of the best material there is to find I have spent many years collecting and vetting to share with bros on the path. Namaste bro

>> No.18725466

>>18725424
i read the wikipedia article, his use of materialism is different from mine.

His materialism is the kind where you use possessions to make you happy, instead of spiritual endeavours.

My materialism is the philosophical belief that things like souls don't exist and the universe is just particles bumping into each other and nothing else.

>> No.18725468

>>18718451
>holographic theory
fuck off. you can't start from "holographic theory" and expect to really understand anything. 99% of pop-sci is a clumsy literal interpretation of metaphors made to make complex mathematical concepts more understandable. it's mistaking not even the map, but a small low-polygon figure made to be tourism department logo for the territory.
I respect religion. I somewhat respect mysticism. I do not respect shit like this. It's so insanely dumb.
Understanding pop-sci is as far to understanding the science behind it as being able to translate a sentence with a dictionary is to be fluent in a language.

-t. Physics PhD student.

>> No.18725479

>>18725468
The aversion to popsci is overblown. Yes some shit is misleading but it's not impossible to understand the core tenets of holographic theory without a strong physics background. You won't get how it works in precise terms but with a little bit of effort you can learn about the background and the core principles. The book makes a point of avoiding typical new age handwaving and talking about dude vibrations lmao, it details the experiments that have led to the development of the theory, explains which discoveries were significant in that regard and why, etc. It's not a textbook and it won't make anyone an expert but I don't think it provides an erroneous or wrong view of what holographic theory is in the broad sense.

>> No.18725482

>>18725433
Thank you friend, and yes I get it, I don't usually talk about physics anyway because I don't know shit about it, I just remembered this factoid about observation from an angry /sci/ post deploring the "normie understanding "of the double slit experiment kek

>> No.18725490

>this thread
I discuss /lit/ with complete head cases. Go back to /x/ morons

>> No.18725497

>>18723362
So Buddhism with gay ass modern computer technology aesthetics.

>> No.18725507

>>18725409
not those two, they obviously arent swarthoids

>> No.18725509

>>18725497
>he doesn't like the Y2K aesthetic
lol faggot

>> No.18725516

>>18725482
/sci/ posters are the platonic form of a midwit, always do the opposite of what /sci/ says

>> No.18725517

>>18725431
Point is for you to actually read something instead of breeding isms together for (You)'s.
>>18725466
I think materialism at that level of physicality becomes a faith in its own right. Even if there are no souls in the sense of immortal self-parts granted from a god, materialism has unresolved problems like memory, consciousness, volition, cognition, etc. We know if you damage parts of the brain or nervous system people lose their abilities to express themselves and move but that just offers a mechanical explanation as to why those intangible faculties which rely on a body can become impaired.

>> No.18725522

>>18725517
>if you damage parts of the brain
Not him but the OP book actually makes a very compelling case for consciousness and memory not being contained in the brain, can't be bothered to find it and type it out but it was based on experiments on rodents and reptiles where fucking with the brain in various ways yielded unexpected results
There's a book about it called "shuffle brain" too

>> No.18725531

>>18725468
look at this seething retard rofl

>> No.18725541

>>18725468
I will make you the same offer I made the other retard. You are more than welcome to attempt to deboonk anything in the article I wrote any time you feel like it. I will even publish the conversation where I demolish you Mr. Pop Sci Physics PhD. Until then stfu when grown folks are talking

>> No.18725562

>>18725522
Memory is extremely weird. Animals including humans have instincts that you don't even have to learn, because the species learned them? It's just nuts.

>> No.18725568

>>18725541
>Make outlandish claims about stuff we can't see with any sort of device, thus making it impossible to prove or disprove it either way
>Can't prove me wrong? Then it's true
OP, you have a gigantic invisible dildo up your ass which is undetectable, you are more than welcome to attempt to deebonk this statement

>> No.18725582

>Animals including humans have instincts that you don't even have to learn, because the species learned them
No lol it's because they have those instincts at birth, it's genetic

>> No.18725590

>>18725568
The guy you are talking to isn't OP (me), I didn't post the esoteric awakening link

>> No.18725591

>>18725568
>Make outlandish claims about stuff we can't see with any sort of device, thus making it impossible to prove or disprove it either way
rofl Physics phD my ass. Ever heard of math? You literally just described the entire field of mathematics. People who are smart know what the data means and can prove it without having to actually hold in their hands you goddamn hack. I prove it beyond any doubt, give all the proofs, if you are too stupid to understand the proofs, you shouldnt be discussing it to begin with

>> No.18725623

>>18725479
ok, I don't want to sound overly harsh on pop-sci because I've been there and pop-sci is far better than nothing, but I want to make something clear:
>it's not impossible to understand the core tenets of holographic theory without a strong physics background
Yes, it is. Physics is not philosophy, making sense is never enough. You only really understood a physic's concept if you can do the math yourself. There is no way around it.
If you take the math out, you can believe it, but you wont ever understand it (I learned it the hard way). You simply wont.
And there is nothing wrong with is as long as you are pretty aware that you only believe what you've been told. I don't really understand climate physics, or solid state physics, even though I can follow a discussion about both. I don't really understand the holographic principle either. And it's fine. Just be humble.
You shouldn't ever be "convinced" by pop-sci. Intrigued, maybe. Convinced, never.
(and I don't doubt that the book may be good. Just be extra careful.)

>>18725541
>You are more than welcome to attempt to deboonk anything in the article I wrote any time you feel like it.
Which is it? I don't promise anything, though. I have shit to do and procrastinated enough. But I'ld like to read it.

>> No.18725629

>>18725591
>any sort of device
>Ever heard of math?
How do you think you do math? do you just use thin air? Idiot can't understand sentences but thinks he understands some magical hidden world lol

>> No.18725633

>>18725623
You can start with this as a primer
https://esotericawakening.com/the-occult-significance-of-the-number-6

Then this
https://esotericawakening.com/what-is-reality-the-holofractal-universe

>> No.18725634

>>18725623
>You only really understood a physic's concept if you can do the math yourself. There is no way around it.
(and this definitively isn't about being an "expert" or not. I "understand" classical mechanics really well, even though I'm no expert.)

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>>18725629
>How do you think you do math? do you just use thin air?
You cant be this fucking stupid? dead, please fuck off back to whatever retarded place came from

>> No.18725645

>>18725623
Okay, I get your point. Maybe you won't really "understand" it but what I mean is that you'll have a relatively accurate idea of what it means, what it symbolizes, what it implies in concrete and practical terms. For example I'm not a physicist and stopped in high school but I have a vague idea of what nuclear fission is and how a nuclear plant works. Could I explain it in layman terms with relative accuracy? Sure. Do I actually know what happens and what the math is? Absolutely not.
Similarly, I don't understand holographic theory, but I have a rough symbolic idea of what the concept means relatively to how I perceive reality.

>> No.18725646

>>18725633
Ok, thanks. I'll come back if I'm still procrastinating.

>> No.18725651

>>18725646
no worries, no hurries

>> No.18725662

>>18725638
You're circling around the point, which doesn't surprise me. Making unverifiable and undeniable claims is as old as time, you're not special for doing it. You're just a fucking weirdo and a complete nut

>> No.18725669

>>18725645
I mean you can make a steam engine without remotely understanding what's going on with it scientifically

>> No.18725713

>>18725662
Actually you are just a moron buddy. I mean a stone cold seething retard not even memeing. It oozes off you from every pore

>> No.18725732

>>18725669
Yeah that's pretty much my point
You can understand a hologram as a layman, it's just when you split a laser into two separate beams of light, then bounce the first beam off the object to be projected, and allow the second beam to collide with the first which creates an interference that you record on a film. Simple as
There's probably some complex math behind this that has to do with light waves and the behavior of photons and whatnot but I don't need that to understand what a hologram is. From there you can actually infer what a holographic universe would be

>> No.18725737

>>18725645
Yeah, but there is a very big difference there: in regards to nuclear fission, you are explaining how an experiment works; when you start talking about the (pop-sci) holographic theory, you are now in the field of interpretation. It is arguable this is how things should be, but interpretation (in this more ontological or metaphysical sense) is extremely less important than the math behind it. It's a second level abstraction (the simplification of the map (the "map" being math, of course)).
Sometimes, you can directly engage with an interpretation (the experiment proving that there can't be any hidden variables in entanglement being an example), but 99% of the time it is completely irrelevant what you believe is "actually" going on down there.
I'm not discouraging you to keep reading about it, but be very aware of what you're doing and how far you can go.
To make another metaphor, you are reading poetry in translation. For some things, it is fine, for others, it makes them completely meaningless.

>> No.18725747

>>18725737
>you are now in the field of interpretation.
Would you say the "high level summary" section on the wikipedia page is interpretative popsci or that it stays reasonably close to rigorous explanation of the underlying theory?

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18725753

>>18725662
>retard too stupid to understand something people are talking screeches "crazy" "schizo" at them all in a spastic sperg out
How novel, I have never seen this before. Not him btw

>> No.18725762

>>18725582
So they have genetic memories? If you know how to do something it is a memory. Or is it a reflex? Is building a nest or migrating a reflex? Seems to be getting complex there. And if it is encoded in genes, then the brain must have a way to read them? Or does it bypass to the muscles, if these instincts are not memories? Why are some memories or reflexes written to genes but not others? Again I think materialism is going to have a hard time here.

>> No.18725801

>>18725747
The only "rigorous explanation of the underlying theory" is always maths. Explanations in "human language" are always very useful, but never enough.
To my level of understanding (and, just to emphasise, I do not do research on the holographic principle and never studeied it in depth) the wikipedia summary is pretty accurate. But I'm not discussing accuracy at all. I haven't read OP's book, I don't have any idea of how accurate it is.

>> No.18725803

>>18725762
It's actually the collective unconscious, which is just a higher level of the hologram that can be tapped into.

>> No.18725817

>>18725747
(still >>18725801) but if you start drawing parallels between metaphysics and physics, you definitively are in the field of interpretation.

>> No.18725828

>>18718913
this should be obvious to you with some introspection.

>> No.18725832

>>18725828
There are a lot of possible answers to that question. Which one are you thinking of?

>> No.18725847

>>18725468
Actually every genius from the ancient world right up today knew this to be true. From Plato, to the Vedas, to Newton, to Bhor, to Planck etc etc. I could go on forever with this list

“All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together.
We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter.”
― Max Planck

>> No.18725853

>>18725753
Please point me to where I said "crazy" and "schizo", or is that part of my post invisible and hidden from us by the elite?

>> No.18725863

>>18725853
this is what real schizo posting looks like, bravo my dude, your autism is at levels never before seen.

>> No.18725867

>>18725762
Haha okay man so you 'learned' to breathe? You 'learned' to translate visual stimuli to the image your brain registers? You 'learned' to suck on a tit for nutrition by looking at... what exactly? Your dad fondling your mom?

>> No.18725872
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>>18725847
>This mind is the matrix of all matter.
Based

>> No.18725873
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>>18725468

>> No.18725880

>>18725863
It doesn't get more ironic than this. Go back to /x/, , lock yourself up there with the other loons and throw away the key please.
And remember, earth is flat, 9/11 was an inside job and lady Di is still alive

>> No.18725881

>>18725867
Ok so now you don't believe in instincts or something?

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>>18718902
>>18725213
Did you watch The Lost History of Earth, bro?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVVzz5-1tco
Highly recommend it, you could even add it to your collection if you like it

>> No.18725903

>>18725880
>gaslighting this hard through sheer stupidity
wew lad, drink bleach and take a nappy

>> No.18725911

>>18718451
>makes unverifiable claims

fuck off

>> No.18725914

>>18725902
I will check it out, ty fren

>> No.18725917
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>>18725633
>https://esotericawakening.com/the-occult-significance-of-the-number-6
sorry, I wanted do give it the benefit of the doubt because I enjoy reading well made exoteric stuff, but this already started pretty retarded.
you know that the diamond structure is a crystal, right? You know what it means, right? It doesn't end at the borders shown here, but goes on regularly like this to all directions. The final shape doesn't look anything like this. The drawing shows a kind of pyramid for clarity.
You can still have triangles, if you want them, but not the ones you pictured.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond#/media/File:Diamond_structure.gif

I'll keep you updated if I find anything else worth commenting.

>> No.18725927

>>18725914
Nice collection btw, I will have my fun digging through it

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18725935

>>18725633
shit! I fell for bait.

>> No.18725938

>>18725917
rofl sorry, but I had to laugh. You completely missed the point. Obviously it is a lattice dim wit who the fuck do you think wouldnt know that? The point is the way it is cut and the gematria if you had bothered to actually finish it first. Goddamn you people are retarded, no offense

>> No.18725948

>>18725903
>I'm just gonna call people schizo and tell them to commit sudoku to distract from the fact that I still have no reply to 'all you do is make unverifiable claims'
What's next, a reaction image? One of your so called 'wojaks' or maybe even the mighty 'pepe'?

>> No.18725956

>>18725938
c'mon. you could perfectly have cut it in a different shape. there is no reason for doing it in a pyramid except for visual simplicity. I read a bit further and I'm gonna finish it, but it's very retarded.

>> No.18725962

>>18725956
You're arguing with a paranoid narcissist lol, stop wasting effort

>> No.18725964

>>18725847
>>18725872
Is this just an endorsement of panpsychism?

>> No.18725965
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18725965

>>18725948
What makes you behave like this friend? Do you have legit autism? Where does your deep seated anger come from? Feelings of helplessness in a world you dont understand? Prior relationship perhaps? Share your pain with me and we work it out together.

>> No.18725967

>>18725662
Ok, to put away the name calling for just a second:
All objects in mathematics are hypothetical, even numbers. They dont actually correspond to anything real ON THEIR OWN, but we human beings can MAKE them correspond to real things by assignment. Then it becomes clear that the truth of mathematics has nothing at all to do with whether or not OBJECTS exist, but what the NECESSARY RELATIONS between those objects are. The claims are verifiable by simply reading the proofs, because that is the ENTIRE CONTENT of the discipline. And that doesnt make it either meaningless or arbitrary, because no matter what objects you select or formulate, the statements you obtain from them and the relations you obtain between them are eternally true. After that we get physics, which answers the question "what is the appropriate way in which these relations correspond to the natural world"

>> No.18725972

>>18725964
it is, very nice :)

>>18725962
>the projecting schizo
Never seen this one before, vn

>> No.18725986

>>18725965
Actually, I'm a flying toaster with a human brain and I post on here through sheer willpower. I don't even type. I just direct the letters and post. Also I'm too complex for a human brain to comprehend, so you can't detect me.

You cannot falsify this so this means it's true. Now back to /x/!

>> No.18725988

>>18725967
you are talking to a stone cold retard mate. Do you think he would have even made that post if he could understand what you are explaining to him? If he could understand it he wouldn't have to have someone explain to him something 9yo's figure out on their own

>> No.18725998

>>18725828
Seriously though how did abrahamists fail to realize the mind-like nature of reality for 2000 years and counting? I have (honestly) tried Christianity but it feels so primitive and unlikely compared to such simple and elegant alternative explanations

>> No.18726002

>>18725507
Race isn't skin-deep, zoomer shithead.

>> No.18726006

>>18725873
Tesla was retarded sometimes. Genius and madness often come together as the saying goes.

>> No.18726007

>>18725967
Oh look it's babby's first duuuuude moment after having smoked a fat one
Every non physical human invention is hypothetical

>> No.18726010
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18726010

>>18725962
his article is extremely dumb. it's child-level numerology. why do I do this to myself?.......
at least he's a pluto redeemer. I love those guys who have strong feelings about astronomical "cladistics".

>>18725541
no. sorry.

>> No.18726014

>>18726002
Yah no shit you fucking donkey, thanks for showing how moronic you are so I dont have to do it for you. Persians are aryan you fucking idiot now stfu with your fetish

>> No.18726018

>>18725988
I dunno I don't think he was talking to you

>> No.18726022

>>18726010
>dude you are so dumb hahaha but I wont explain why because I am so smart!
HAHAHAHAAH kys you fucking donkey

>> No.18726026

>>18726007
bruh

Lots of people think numbers and such are a natural kind, Ive actually seen threads on here yelling at set theorists and other mathematical foundationalists for not founding all of mathematics on their natural kinds. Im not saying anything new, Im explaining to this guy the point that he has missed.

>> No.18726028

>schizo hijacks a cool thread with his nonsense
Why can't we have good things

>> No.18726034

this thread has been overrun with the double digit IQ crew of /lit/ and is now pointless and will devolve to apes throwing their shit at each other. see ya round donks. Keep looking OP you are close to bhagavan

>> No.18726035

>>18726022
keep on trucking, my dude. the world needs people like you :,^)

>> No.18726039

>>18726022
>dude you are so dumb YOU ARE SHEEP WAKE UP THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW THIS
who are they?
>THE ELITE THE ELITTEEEEEEEE
who are the elite?
>...
That's what I thought. Game, set and match. Also go back to /x/

>> No.18726044

>>18726034
>Keep looking OP you are close to bhagavan
I haven't read the gita yet, should I? I postponed it because I don't really like advaita's non-personalism

>> No.18726049

>>18726026
bruh

I am "this guy"

>>18726028
How is this a good thread? It started out with an honest /lit/ question but turned full /x/ within like 3 posts

>> No.18726064

We all know that the map is not the territory and that all models are wrong but some are useful, but there's clearly a gestalt being formed of loosely coupled ideas aiming to disregard established theories in order to supplant its own fanciful understandings of the bigger picture.

>> No.18726068
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>>18726044
Yes of course, the gita is the cornerstone

https://ugetube.com/watch/bhagavad-gita-full-version-beautifully-recited-in-english_YM8xY6IzXxxWZe1.html

If you want to chat or more material feel free to leave comments at the website. Im not gonna stay in this and argue with shudra mate, life is too short. They are hylics, you will never show them something they simply werent made to see. It isnt their time and it is a fetter to try and force them too not to mention a waste of time anyway. GL bro

>> No.18726072

>>18726049
It could've been a good thread were it not for the schizoposting
We can still discuss the holographic theory and disregard the schizo stuff though

>> No.18726073

I was actually sent by the CIA to divert this thread because you are treading dangerously close to the hidden truth!

>> No.18726091

>>18719286
You have to account for religions functionally. Judaism is basically the operating system of a desert tribe.

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>>18726073
I wouldn't be surprised if this spastic fucktard is telling the truth for once. Look into the CIA's stargate project OP

>> No.18726115

>>18726064
>We all know that the map is not the territory and that all models are wrong
How do we know this? How do we know one model isn't the truth?
>a gestalt being formed of loosely coupled ideas aiming to disregard established theories in order to supplant its own fanciful understandings of the bigger picture.
I'm seeing this with all the Jung/gnostic threads

>> No.18726130

>>18726114
I know about the stargate project actually, it's really interesting stuff and I was looking for more material on the subject, do you know anything else aside from that and the book in the OP?

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>>18726014
They don't cluster with Europeans on autosomal DNA PCA plots.

>> No.18726151

>>18726130
have you seen men who stare at goats? based on a true story, look into what you can find on those guys prob find some interesting material. And of course study the Nazis, they are the ones that really broke this whole conspiracy wide open about the rewritten history, true nature of reality and fake kike religions

>> No.18726152

>>18726130
Yeah I know an interesting book on this topic, this title is not supposed to be in the public domain so I will put it in a spoiler tag. Other anons, please don't read. It's called take your meds and go back to /x/ schizo

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>>18726151
>the Nazis, they are the ones that really broke this whole conspiracy wide open about the rewritten history, true nature of reality and fake kike religions
lord it's /pol/ and /x/ in one

>> No.18726167

>>18726151
>men who stare at goats
I think that's pretty much what the stargate project was (along with other army projects on similar parapsychological research)
>the Nazis
Serrano's books?

>> No.18726182

>>18726064
archon

>> No.18726185

>>18726182
He's literally arguing against the archontic control system

>> No.18726198

>>18726140
>got an assyrian/french/lebanese christian combo
So what does that imply genetically, aside from me being a mutt?

>> No.18726202

>>18726167
Esoteric Meaning Of The Black Sun
https://esotericawakening.com/esoteric-meaning-of-the-black-sun

The History Of The Order Of The Black Sun
https://esotericawakening.com/the-history-of-the-order-of-the-black-sun

Thule, Vril And The Black Sun
https://esotericawakening.com/thule-vril-and-the-black-sun

Das Vril Projekt
https://esotericawakening.com/das-vril-projeckt

Serrano is p good yes, check Savitri Devi, Evola etc. I put everything in one place for you mate at my website and video archive. It is all there. All the questions you have and or are ever gonna have I already asked many years ago and went found the answers and put them in safekeeping for other seekers

>> No.18726214

>>18726068
Based Bergson poster. Everything else you said is probably retarded though

>> No.18726224

>>18726162
I'm not any of the anons you have been screeching at but goddamn I would smash a baseball bat in your face if I got the opportunity

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>>18726224
No you wouldn't

>> No.18726246

>>18726068
>>18726202
You might enjoy this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTBDrrHl5V0

>> No.18726249

>>18726006
>r/IamVerySmart
don't come back

>> No.18726265

>>18726162
this guy is totally insane. in his "article" about the significance of the number 6, he jumps strait to the black sun to give an example of an hexagon.

>> No.18726266

>>18726198
I don't care about race except for some bad apples like Sub-saharan Africans who are technically speaking a different subspecies altogether. Gulf Arabs are heavily mixed with Sub-saharan Africans, and genetic research has shown they have higher frequency of genes that increase tendency towards violence. Most other Middle Easterners are okay as long as they are not in-bred. For example, my mom is a little bit inbred, but it doesn't show up in my genetic results whereas it does for her. In-breeding is common among many Middle Easterners because they have many endogamous tribes. You can test if you or your family members are in-bred with GEDMatch.

>> No.18726271

>>18726266
>GEDMatch
Is it really wise to send your genetic data to a private company?

>> No.18726292

>>18726265
>guise guise! look at my histrionic sperg outs and use of adjectives to stress how much I mean this! It means you have to believe and agree with me!

stfu hasbarat you morons might as well have a big blue star in your id as much as your behavior makes you stick out

>> No.18726300

>>18726271
In the modern age of surveillance and advanced data mining algorithms, they probably already have your DNA samples in databases, especially if you're politically active. If you're not politically active, then I don't see the issue. Being politically active involves more than just complaining online or watching Bitchute videos that expose the Kaballahist Luciferian elites and scamdemic.

As Internet of Things grow, privacy will become a thing of the past, but technologies that increase convenience will increase.

>> No.18726319

>>18726300
>As Internet of Things grow, privacy will become a thing of the past
I need to move to a small countryside cabin deep in the mountains of wherever, I don't want to get in the pod and eat the bugs

>> No.18726328

>>18726319
They will come for you one way or another.
For example, they will hike property taxes and more. Also, if they find you in the middle of the woods, you'll go to jail, and with machine learning algorithms combined with aerial data or (maybe) GIS, they can find you easily in an automated fashion with drones.

The elites are planning something big, and the only solution is to gain the skillsets they want rather than resist them.

>> No.18726332

>>18726328
Depressing.
>gain the skillsets they want
What are they?

>> No.18726353

>>18726332
>What are they?
There are a couple of options:

- electrical engineering is ALWAYS a good choice to major in.

- materials and biomedical engineering

- computer science with a focus on cloud computing, embedded systems, IoT, and data science. All four fields are growing though I think data science might become saturated.

- neuromorphic technologies like memristor

>> No.18726367

>>18726353
So none of my fields. Fuck it then, I'll be a dissident.

>> No.18726374

>>18726328
Why would they care about some guy living in the woods?

>> No.18726381

>>18726367
You need to learn the basics of networking in order to be a proper dissident, such as setting up private networks & channels and masking public ip everywhere.

Any device that connects you to the Internet would be dangerous as a dissident.
And yeah, you shouldn't send your DNA then or openly mention your disdain for the current world order.

>> No.18726389

>>18726374
Bill Gates is buying off a lot of land and more, and the elites have a vested interest in having people concentrated more in urban parts.

I think they want to protect that land but not because they care for it, but due to growing environmental issues. The CIA has classified documents on cataclysmic pole shifts, which we are most likely accelerating by destroying biodiversity.

>> No.18726418

>>18726389
What are they going to do about the thirs world? India?

>> No.18726451

>>18726418
I will answer that, but first I will tell you the housing pricing market is increasing. Black Rock is buying a lot of single family homes through their subsidiaries. The price of homes are being raised artificially become the goal of the elite is to create a more renting economy. "You will own nothing and be happy." -- Klaus Schwab
>What are they going to do about the thirs world? India?
I don't know, but if I were to make predictions:

1) push artificial scamdemic more and administer the jab for purposes of sterilization or slow death

2) start a world war and have China and India fight

Stuff like that.

>> No.18726458

>>18726451
>pricing market
price market*
>become the goal
because the goal*

>> No.18726470

>>18726389
You sure the environmental issues are even real? And why would the CIA declassify the pole shift document if it were real

>> No.18726519

>>18726470
>You sure the environmental issues are even real?
I think they're worse than what people say, and it's not reducible to simple explanations like anthropogenic climate change.

Birds, for example, are good indicators of the health of ecosystems, and many of them are dying out (maybe due to 5G which is being blamed on corona instead). A ton of bird species have died out in the USA as an example.

A list of all environmental problems would cover several volumes (e.g., ozone depletion, ocean acidification and pollutants, etc.)

David Attenborough recently attended a World Economic Forum symposium where he discussed the massive die-out of the world's biodiversity, and in one of his documentaries he hinted the only way to rehabilitate the world is with decreasing human population. He did not say this explicitly, but I am pretty sure that goal coincides with World Economic Forum and the International Elite.

> And why would the CIA declassify the pole shift document if it were real

They declassified only a little bit that verified the cataclysmic pole shift hypothesis.

I would suspect they would not want to declassify all of it because people would either deny it or it would cause mass hysteria.

>> No.18726523

>>18726519
>>18726470
>A ton of bird species have died out in the USA as an example
since the 1940's*

>> No.18726538

>>18722350
Nothing. They just happen to him. Another one is seeing an umbrella transform into a stick, and a no parking sign turn it’s “i” into an “e”

>> No.18726561

>>18726519
If they lie about everything else why not the environment as well, and why declassify any of it?

>> No.18726575

>>18726561
They haven't told the true reasons why environmental devastation on this scale is bad, and part of the reason they push for environmental concerns is because it threatens their existence too. There's really no solution beyond massive human depopulation.

>> No.18726927

>>18726246
nice ty fren

>> No.18726940

>>18725468
imagine being a "Physics PhD" in 2021 and not knowing what people who lived 5000 years ago knew and were teaching in the mystery schools in togas and sandals. Pathetic

>> No.18726947

>>18726940
Holographic universe theory was being taught in mystery schools?

>> No.18726959

>>18726940
Do us a favor and post the mathematical characterization of the hologram so that these can understand the actual content of what they are talking about

>> No.18726965

>>18726959
*these anons
lol

>> No.18727033

>>18726959
>>18726965
https://odysee.com/@bodhimantra:c/The-Hermetic-Governing-Dynamic-Spinning-Polarity:4

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>>18726940
What do you expect from hylics? They weren't put here to understand. They were just put here to execute their programming and be fucking annoying

>> No.18727115

>>18718451
if yo try hard enough you can make any metaphysic look like a physical theory by over simplifying both

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>>18725468
>muh phd
what a blowhard poser

>> No.18727187

>>18726068
I resonate deeply with that quote. Never heard of the guy, thanks anon.

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>>18727187
>resonates with me
everything is vibration anon, yw

>> No.18727290

>>18726575
Just seems like another tool of control to me

>> No.18727438

I will make it really easy for you retards. This entire Universe is an organic computer computer and the "matter" in it made of light, which are the "pixels" if you will. What is so hard to understand about this?

>> No.18727445

>>18727438
*organic quantum computer

>> No.18727472

>>18727438
an interactive quantum computer at that which you can effect with your consciousness. I mean it doesnt take a fucking genius to understand this and it isnt even really controversial fucking Elon Musk even knows this ffs and said it openly and so did Phlip K Dick in the fucking 70's. Why do you think Musk named his car company "Tesla." duh you fucking ape tier asshats

>> No.18727497

>>18727472
Actually God made the world

>> No.18727548

>>18727290
I don't agree that the "environmental doomsday" stuff is promoted by elites for control. If anything, things are worse than what they say, but they don't publicize it in order not to cause panic.

I would agree they put stuff like fluoride into the waters to make a docile population though.

>> No.18727558

>>18726185
No he's arguing against arguing against it

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>>18727497
God is the computer fucktard. This is what heemetcism is teaching you, this is what the vedas are teaching you, this is gonsiticism is teaching you, this is what buddhism is teaching you this is what simluation theory comes from it is all the same fucking thing teaching the same thing. Only the abrahamic mind viruses are for droolers that kinda is teaching this but in codes mixed with some retarded shit for retards too stupid to understand all of this

>> No.18727570

>>18727562
>Fucktard
>Retard
>Drooler

Plotinus would be so proud

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>>18727570
it is 4chan my dude not the paladium. You have to speak to them in their language or they will call you bougie

>> No.18727587

>>18727548
Why not it's a perfect excuse to control people

>> No.18727593

>>18727562
I dont think it's a computer at all I think the world is very real

>> No.18727608

>>18727593
well nice? I said ORGANIC quantum computer and it is a fact it doesnt matter what you think. What else would you think from inside of it? Of course it is "real." It was designed that way, it wouldnt be very interactive if you didnt think it was "real" now would it?

>> No.18727613

>>18727608
It's not an illusion

>> No.18727618

>>18727587
They already have a lot of other perfect excuses to control people...

Mankind has destroyed a tremendous amount of biodiversity since the Industrial Age, especially the ocean.

Honestly, you won't believe me until you visit ecosystems that have been destroyed like old-growth forests or dead-zones in the ocean. It's way worse than what mainstream media says.

>> No.18727624

>>18727613
>muh feelz though
hylic radar lock, just believe what you want my guy it doesnt matter or change anything

>> No.18727627

>>18727613
that's the beauty of the simulation, you get to believe whatever you want and it becomes your reality, enjoy it until the kikes mass murder us all and we go somewhere else

>> No.18727632

>>18718451
No and argument ex ignorantia is a disgusting pseudomethod whether it be performed by Roman theologians or by Buddhists.

>> No.18727651

>>18727618
The mainstream media said we'd literally be underwater by now lol

>> No.18727704

>>18727497
hey man if you makes it easier to swallow for you your brain is an organic quantum computer. Just think of it as you are a tulpa is in god's brain

>> No.18727710

>>18727704
>makes it easier for you to swallow

>> No.18727712

>>18727704
You're forgetting about souls

>> No.18727715

>>18727712
No I didn't, your body is an avatar in this dimension, your soul (light body) is in another higher dimension

>> No.18727717

>>18727715
There is only one dimension, being

>> No.18727718

>>18727712
think of the brain in the jar analogy or NEO in the matrix, you wont be here long in this shithole, soon you will wake up in "heaven" or another part of the matrix if you choose

>> No.18727723

>>18727718
Those are just thought experiments they're not real

>> No.18727736

>>18727717
oh yah? you can be here shitposting and be at your house at the same time. There are many dimensions bud and they all vibrate a different octave. There are higher dimensional beiung here right now but you cant see them, they can see everything in your dimension however. Just like a pit viper can see heat but not light very well or a bat can see with sound but no eyes etc. You arent equipped with the senses and organs necessary to see the higher dimensions in this avatar and dimension. Last response gonna have to tell you to fuk off now you are wasting my time

>> No.18727745

>>18727736
unless you take lsd or dmt that is, then you will see them :)

>> No.18727752

>>18727736
You should just focus on the real world it's what matters

>> No.18728118

>>18726130
read manly p hall's teachings of all ages and blavatsky's secret doctrine

>> No.18728637

>>18723771
You want to understand how a weaker magnetic field can make things enlarge? Do a simple high school science experiment and put a balloon in a freezer or vacuum bell then take it out.

Conversely you want to see how a stronger magnetic field will shrink matter? Find out what happens to a submarine that dives too deep. It is simply about how much pressure is equally applied to it. Weaker magnetic field = less pressure and less density. This is kiddie science mate you shouldn't have dropped out of school in 10th grade

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>>18727497
>>18727593
>>18727613
>>18727717
>>18727723
>>18727752
You couldn't come off as more of a hylic if you tried.
>>18727715
>>18727718
Based, all my research so far concerning relevant religions' ideas of the afterlife, NDEs and so on have led me to the exact same conclusion

>> No.18728971

>>18727718
What role, if any, does Christ play in this?

>> No.18728999

>>18719473
christcuck?

>> No.18729212

>>18728118
Blavatsky was a hack

>> No.18730310

>>18729212
retard

>> No.18730511

>>18726028
>>18726049
>>18726072
The thread started out schizo you retards. Look at the book OP posted. It's not even pop science. It says the holographic universe can explain fucking poltergeists.

>> No.18730532

>>18730511
hylic

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>>18730532
Pic related is you, also go back to /x/

And yes, I'm back and ready for more (You)s

>> No.18730595

>>18730572
No need, thread is dead and bump limit next post

>> No.18731172

>>18729212
filtered

>> No.18731185

read walter russel's a new concept of the universe and sri yuktswar the holy science OP

>> No.18731870

>>18725568
>If can't see it it doesn't exist
Well fuck I guess cell phones are a scam then since we cant see the microwaves. You my friend win the stupidest person on /lit/ award today

>> No.18732305

>>18725964
Enstein was also a huge Spinoza fan

>> No.18732311

>>18731870
we can detect them retard, same can't be said of your woo

>> No.18732354

>>18732311
Nonlocality was experimentally tested you troglodyte

>> No.18732440

>>18732311
How do you measure love you monkey brained simian? Are you saying love doesnt exist because you cant hold it or measure it?

>> No.18732451

>>18732440
we can mesure it with the chemical present in a human brain
>muh reddit npc hylics s o y
You can believe in souls or whatever else you want, but you were making bad analogies

>> No.18732463

>>18732451
>we can mesure it with the chemical present in a human brain
HAHAHAHA you are the biggest moron I have ever seen on this board. That is quite a feat

>> No.18732487

>>18732463
keep on beliving that because we can't precisely mesure an abstract concept or that a pop sci interpretation of a complex mathematical model somehow looks like ancient metaphysical idea, you can say ghost are real