/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.18717398]

Books that will help me deal with the fact that life is meaningless and there's no point in living?

[Anonymous No.18717406]

Neitzsche probably idk

[Anonymous No.18717454]

Man’s Search for Meaning

[Anonymous No.18717462]

Straw Dogs

[Anonymous No.18717488]

>>18717462
john gray is one of the only honest atheists and takes evolution to its logical conclusion

[Anonymous No.18717490]

>>18717398
Zen Flesh, Zen Bones.
Gateless Gate.

[Anonymous No.18717492]

>>18717488
I tried making threads about his works in the past but no one ever replied.

[Anonymous No.18717624]

>>18717398
Alan Moore's Jerusalem

[Anonymous No.18717631]

A Short History of Decay
All Gall is Divided

[Anonymous No.18717729]

>>18717398
bibble

[Anonymous No.18717732]

>>18717398

[Anonymous No.18718755]

Lingua Latina per se Illustrata, by GODberg.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.18718784]

Life is yours to do with as you please.
Ah, but some ass-hats have turned it into a prison planet. I suggest turning to the purpose of burning this prison down and replacing it with a better world.

[Anonymous No.18718800]

>>18717398
The Bible, but start with the greeks

[Anonymous No.18718804]

>>18717398
start with the greeks

[Anonymous No.18718832]

Pessoa

[Anonymous No.18719026]

>>18717398
The Count of Monte Cristo

[Anonymous No.18719163]

>>18717398
The Analects of Confucius

[Anonymous No.18719216]

>>18718784
> just make things worse
No thanks.

[Anonymous No.18719230]

>>18719216
it already is what it is

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.18719242]

>>18719216
>Finding purpose is making things worse
You are a degenerate. You want to go up to the clouds and bow before a daddy god forever, is that you?

[Anonymous No.18719243]

>>18718784
your book recommendations suck tranny

[Anonymous No.18719250]

>>18717454
Reading it today.
Good one.

[Anonymous No.18719261]

>>18718784
Your book recs are so weak, and they haven't changed in years. You haven't grown at all. What you really think Nietzsche and Stirner are the philosophical end game? That's got to be one of the strangest and yet saddest echo chambers to exist in.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.18719288]

>>18719243
You suck, tranny chaser.

>>18719261
>Same questions asked over and over
>expects the answer to be different
How dumb.

[Anonymous No.18719300]

>>18719288
Stop reposting authors for the mere fact they are also homosexual

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.18719326]

>>18719300
They’re all straight white males though.

[Anonymous No.18719370]

>>18719326
interesting, you don't even know about the authors you perpetually post

[Anonymous No.18719443]

>>18717398
stoner

[Anonymous No.18719456]

>>18719216
you said war is degenerate you hypocrite

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.18719498]

>>18719370
I thought you were talking about Nietzsche, Stirner and Epicurus.
Why wouldn’t I like Yourcenar etc? What’s your problem?

[Anonymous No.18719871]

>>18717492
accepting the truth of an atheist worldview is too daunting and depressing for most to accept

[Anonymous No.18719883]

>>18717488
>one of the only honest atheists
Kek
Fucking dipshit

[Anonymous No.18720066]

>>18717398
As a Man Thinketh

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/4507

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeBX4WjhhXs

[Anonymous No.18720813]

Ecclesiastes

[Anonymous No.18720903]

>>18717462
can i just watch the movie? is it any good?

[Anonymous No.18720957]

>>18717398

[\˚ㄥ˚\ !!gqyesdiiDOD No.18720964]

>>18717398
Permaculture Designer's Manual, Bill Mollison

Life is in our relationships and each being wades through time, making precious ripples. Tap into the heritage of mankind and our cousins through this accessible route for the industrialized mind.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.18720975]

>>18720964
Signed

[Anonymous No.18720976]

>>18720964
sounds gay

[Anonymous No.18721001]

>>18717398

You should learn where this new idea that life is meaningless has come from, and how it develops. This book does so.

PDF here -> https://www.docdroid.net/SlxAMji/nihilism-seraphim-rose-pdf

[\˚ㄥ˚\ !!gqyesdiiDOD No.18721134]

>>18720975
>>18720964
Take the shroompill, struggle to accept decay

[Anonymous No.18721152]

>>18720975
>>18720964
Co signed. Me and Butterfly love each other :3

[Anonymous No.18721164]

>>18720976
Love is not gay. :3

I am in heaven :33333 she doesn't want to upset me

[Anonymous No.18721167]

>>18717398
the myth of sisyphus by albert camus

[Anonymous No.18721308]

>>18720066
If there is one New Thought work that is worth a damn it's that one. Instead of law of attraction bs he advocates strengthening ones character. That book cover kinda spells that out anyway.

[Anonymous No.18722947]

>>18717398
>>18721001

[Anonymous No.18723123]

>>18722947

I read RTT before I read Nihilism - the concept of riding the tiger is very much applicable, and there are a lot of legitimate insights, but Evola doesn't put the degeneration of the age in the right cosmic context, and tends to write like he's convincing you to become a living sigma grindset meme. Fun to read, but ultimately as far as perennialists go, Guenon had a lot more substance, and Fr. Rose has both the substance and the stylistic approachability, while also being Orthodox.

[Anonymous No.18723129]

>>18717398
mindfulness or some shit. Get your senses back and start doing whatever you feel liek doing. You are complicating things by thinking about meaning or something.

[Anonymous No.18723140]

>>18717398
Camus (some optimism)
Cioran (full doom mode)
There is no full dealing, anon. You have to find distractions.

[Anonymous No.18723167]

>>18721001
>dude everyone that I disagree with is literally satanic lmao!

[Anonymous No.18723175]

>>18723140
What's Cioran's best stuff?

Will I like any of his other works if I wasn't a fan of Book of Decay?

[Anonymous No.18723181]

>One of the old philosophers, Lord Bacon tells us, used to say that life and death were just the same to him
>"Why then," said an objector, "do you not kill yourself."
>The philosopher answered, "Because it is just the same."

[Anonymous No.18723182]

>>18723123
>become a living sigma grindset meme
That's exactly what he was against. Read the book more closely. The whole point of the book arguably is to simply solidify an inner core which is untainted by modernity, and thereby be able to act somewhat normally within society without this core ever being compromised. In other words, it's not really promoting the idea of sigma male nor of grinding by yourself to somehow "beat it all."

[Anonymous No.18723186]

>>18723167

Yes, and?

That doesn't mean that there aren't legitimate insights in the writings of the deceived - but they have to be dissected to remove the harmful content from the insightful content.

[Anonymous No.18723192]

>>18723186
>according to my religion you are pure inhuman evil if you disagree with me. you are actually communicating with and possessed by demons.
>wtf why aren’t you taking me seriously

[Anonymous No.18723193]

>>18723182

I'm talking more about the left-hand path occultism for the sigma grindset meme.

[Anonymous No.18723198]

>>18721001
Have these retarded churchcucks read Ecclesiastes? All is fucking vanity even if you do believe in God. But no, sheltered fags have their church to protect their delusions from facing the real trial of their being.

After the revolt of early Egyptian monks, Christianity became inherently corrupt and is at war against the noble tradition of asceticism.

[Anonymous No.18723206]

>>18723192

>according to my religion you are pure inhuman evil

That's not what my religion believes. My religion believes that you are fundamentally good, but deceived, and if you disagree with God then you have been deceived by demons, or other humans who have been deceived by demons.

At the most extreme levels of demonic deception, this does involve communicating with and being possessed by demons, as every single high level occultist will confirm to you - from Vajrayana Tibetan Buddhism to Masonic ritual magic. It's Masonic ritual magicians who were the intellectual core of the French revolution, and its followon revolutions, anyway.


Hell, a fad in silicon valley is to take DMT and talk to "clockwork elves"(read: demons) to give them ideas for better technology. The modern world is literally built on the back of unironic and open demonic influence, to the point of pushing witchcraft in childrens TV shows now.

[Anonymous No.18723220]

>>18723198

You'll be glad to know that Fr. Seraphim Rose, the author of that book, was an ascetic monk, following a line of traditional initiation from the Optina Elders in Russia. Orthodox Christianity has not stopped being ascetic, since it is the true lienage of Christianity.

Heterodox Christianity, which we see in the west in the form of Protestantism and Roman Catholicism, has become corrupt and anti-ascetic. Orthodoxy has retained that ascetic core of renouncing the world, and facing the real trial of their being.

I guarantee you, if you hate anti-ascetic (((Christianity))), you will love reading that Nihilism book.

[Anonymous No.18723221]

>>18717398
Btw, not doing anything and landing on your next need also works/ semi-works.

[Anonymous No.18723248]

>>18723220
Sorry for my retardedly pseud assumption. But whenever someone say that modern society is nihilistic then that's totally shit. Because a nihilist don't believe in anything and our contemporary society is humanist and highly moralistic. They believe is teleological """progress""".

I am a philosophical pessimist who has respect for ascetics/mystics of all ages. But painting pessimism as something modern is painfully reductive.

[Anonymous No.18723274]

>>18719242
Please god shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.18723299]

>>18717398
if everything is meaningless then it's also pointless to post thumbnails on a tibetan looming forum while sulking about life but you still do it

[Anonymous No.18723314]

>>18723248

In this case, I think it's just a confusion of terminology, and you jumped the gun on assuming that Fr. Rose defined Nihilism in that book as "You don't believe in anything". Fr. Rose defined Nihilism rather as, "There is no ultimate truth." The benefits of this definition means that Fr. Seraphim Rose can explicate four phases of the Nihilist dialectic unfolding:

In the book, Nihilism follows four stages unto an ultimate end point in the fourth stage - 1. Liberalism 2. Realism 3. Vitalism 4. The Nihilism of Destruction .

Humanism and moralism corresponds to the Liberalist phase of Nihilism - it's not that they don't have beliefs, and don't have morals, but they do not believe that they have any ultimate truth at their foundation, since the "Liberal" flavour of nihilism amounts to "There is no ultimate truth, so you can believe whatever you want, as long as you are generally not a prick to other people, and believe in common values that we can all agree on."

Realism roughly corresponds to scientism, "If it's not quantifiable, it don't real", Vitalism corresponds to "Feels > reals, do speed until you die", and the Nihilism of destruction is the very final level where destruction is carried out for the sake of destruction, ie, school shooters and such.

[Anonymous No.18723316]

>>18717398
nietzsche, realise he failed completely, then you cope for 50 years and die.

[Anonymous No.18723322]

>>18723316

This book >>18721001 covers, in detail, the failure of the cope, and how it effects the modern world.

[Anonymous No.18723329]

>>18723322
i've read this book and enjoyed it very much, im probably due for a reread actually. although i don't really have high hopes on god saving us from the rat hole i have a lot of respect for orthodox christianity.

[Anonymous No.18723385]

>>18723329

The world we're going through is for the sake of the salvation of our soul - and sufferings we are currently going through, and the worse sufferings that we will go into in the near future (world war, world famine, etc) will purify us in this life, so long as we see those sufferings as reason to draw closer to God. He will help us when we need him, if we trust him.

Don't worry about the external conditions of the world - since we are all going to die anyway, one way or another, worry about the state of your soul, and prepare yourself for death.

Perhaps another book you would be interested in reading for that topic, if you haven't already, would be Fr. Rose's "The soul after death". Here's a link to the PDF. https://au1lib.org/book/5417840/db997d

He covers a lot of his contemporary literature on Near Death Experiences, and interprets all of them from the Orthodox perspective, and completes them with Orthodox accounts of near death experiences.

[Anonymous No.18723605]

>>18723206
Nihilists are literally called prophets of satan but I’m sure there’s no implication of evil somehow.
>all that other schizo shit
I know exactly which discord you come from.

[Anonymous No.18723643]

>>18723206
>if you disagree with my religion you are deceived by demons
>why? because my religion says so of course
kek is this elaborate bait or are you this stupid?
>this does involve communicating with and being possessed by demons, as every single high level occultist will confirm to you
This is complete bullshit and you are talking out of your ass

[Anonymous No.18723652]

>>18723385
>Near Death Experiences, and interprets all of them from the Orthodox perspective
I sure am looking forward to his extremely biased analysis.
NDEs were explained 1400 years ago by Padmasambhava anyway

[Anonymous No.18724167]

You're suffering in existential pain, which is intrinsically meaningful - so, you're stupid.

[Anonymous No.18724534]

>>18724167
>which is intrinsically meaningful
how?