What are the best written visual novels?

[Anonymous No.18711624]

Are there any /lit/ visual novels?

[Anonymous No.18711626]

>>18711624
You posted it

[Anonymous No.18711627]

>>18711624
matrix vn

[Anonymous No.18711742]

https://vndb.org/v23
This one's pretty good if you like idyllic settings and references to old folk tales and mythology. It's never been translated, but I guess you should be able to enjoy it even if you're forced to read a machine translated version of it.

[Anonymous No.18711765]

https://vndb.org/v562
This one's great too even if you don't know about Impressionism or Kierkegaard's leap of faith. It's been translated to several languages, none of which is English.

[Anonymous No.18711906]

Doki Doki /lit/erature Club

[Anonymous No.18711930]

>>18711624
this isn't /lit/, take it to /v/ or /a/ please. thank you.

[Anonymous No.18712099]

>>18711930
>visual novel
>novel
Where’s the problem here?

[Anonymous No.18712185]

The House in Fata Morgana. The soundtrack and artstyle are top tier as well.

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>>18712099
He means, take it to >>>/co/

[Anonymous No.18712295]

>>18711624
The best VNs are as good as genre fiction and the worst as bad as fanfiction.
Besides, almost all VNs suffer from ungodly amounts of padding and a severe lack of editing. You can justify some of it as 'building character' or 'establish relationships' or 'the setting', but the fact is that VNs are generally poorly paced with long dull sections that would be drastically them in half, or even to a quarter of their original sizes. Here are some of the VNs I've read that I would recommend with some precaution.
Umineko suffers greatly from the lack of editing and poor pacing as well as from excessive length (it is as long as two-and-a-half Bibles), but it is on par with some of the best murder mystery novels, and has many innovative and metatextual elements.
I liked Grisaia, but it is 'merely' fun and has no literary merit. It is a good VN, but nothing more.
Mahouyo is more 'professional' than Type-Moon's earlier Tsukihime, in both writing and assets, but the earlier work, while amateurish, has more substance yet still far less than, for example, Heinlein. Fate/Stay Night is on par with the Percy Jackson series in terms of depth.
Nitroplus VNs are interesting, so I'll say a few words on the ones I've read. I found Sumaga very moving, but I can't claim it has much depth beyond sentimental value. Saya no Uta is a 'lovecraftian' horror VN and, atypically for the medium, has very good pacing. I would say that its merits exceed Lovecraft's stories if we do not consider his influence. Chaos;Head is an interestingly portrayal of a NEET, which is not too common in either VNs nor literature. Unfortunately, outside the this and some horror elements the story is quite bad, especially towards the end. Steins;Gate is a fairly well done time travel story with some fun characters, but with zero depth. Flying Shine's Cross Channel and Propeller's Asairo are VNs that do this sort of thing with an actual purpose. It must be admitted that these latter two are not SF, but unless you are interested in long pseudoscientif explanations on how black holes created in microwave ovens make time travel possible, this should not be a limitation.

[Anonymous No.18713934]

>>18711624
Danganronpa

[Anonymous No.18714039]

Umineko is the GOAT
FSN was a fun ride, Hollow Ataraxia bretty gud too
Tsukihime was also nice

[Anonymous No.18714486]

>>18711624
sharin no kuni

[Anonymous No.18714578]

>>18711624
>a-anon, i h-haven't seen you in the library in a long time. you haven't f-forgotten about me, have you?

[Anonymous No.18714838]

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[Anonymous No.18715070]

>>18711906
that's the mcdonalds of visual novels, made by americans and praised by redditors and epic gamers

[Anonymous No.18715159]

>>18715070
As much as I hate reddit and am skeptical of Western takes on Japanese culture mediums, I think the West has produced several good VNs including DDLC, which is effective at horror and has attractive character designs without any diversity politics embedded in it. Cripple Girls game and Unteralterbach similarly stand out as above average.

[Anonymous No.18715294]

>>18711624
When seagulls cry.

[Anonymous No.18715304]

>>18711624
I think they're as much literature related as comics are.

[Anonymous No.18715454]

>>18715159
>I think the West has produced several good VNs including DDLC
>including DDLC

Totono, already did what DDLC wanted to, and did it much better. DDLC was made for 14 year olds and man children who simp on twitch all day. It's comical how poorly written it is.

[Anonymous No.18715650]

>>18711742
Did you read it with machine translation? I have the impression that right now the technology is mainly useful for smaller things. I'm not sure how well it would work for a 20+ hour visual novel.

[Anonymous No.18715678]

>>18711624
Clannad for sure. I dont know what picrel is.

[Anonymous No.18715685]

An anon here said that Song of Saya was good.
I hated it honestly.

[Anonymous No.18716017]

subahibi

[Anonymous No.18716036]

I got tricked into reading subahibi
It's getting very boring, lads.

[Anonymous No.18716070]

>>18716036
I had the same feeling. The start is ok, but soon you're too deep into schizo bullshit (which some of it is kind of good but gets boring fast). It gets better, I hope you enjoy it

[Anonymous No.18716078]

>>18711626
what is it

[Anonymous No.18716156]

>>18711624
KS is the kino VN,

[Anonymous No.18716166]

>>18716156
what does KS stand for

[Anonymous No.18716171]

>>18716166
>wanting to be spoonfed
the best VN requires the best of efforts to discover, which shouldn't be too hard since it's popular.

[Anonymous No.18716224]

>>18716156
I actually think Rin is the only route I have not completed. I like
>>18714578
the best personally.

Anyways, the best VN is Muv-Live.

[Anonymous No.18716227]

>>18716224
Really? I like Rin as best girl, but feel that Emi's route is the best.

[Anonymous No.18716234]

>>18714486
Seconding this

[Anonymous No.18716236]

>>18716166
Kill yourSelf

[Anonymous No.18716243]

>>18716227
Emi’s route is the best for sure. I actually failed her plot line at the end my first play through and it was pretty well written. I just like Hanako more for some reason. I read a really long fan fiction that extended her route when I first found KS

[Anonymous No.18716651]

>>18716017
Seconded, it's the best visual novel, unique too.

[Anonymous No.18716661]

>>18715070
Thanks for saying this so I didn't have to, it's annoying how popular it is in the west when seemingly nobody goes on to play Japanese VNs (which are better) once they're finished with it, even if they loved it. I liked DDLC it's just not as good as the attention it got compared to others.

[Anonymous No.18716668]

>>18716243
I remember that fanfiction, it was very very good.
>>18716661
most western vns are so ironic and try to subvert so much you have to ask why people even make and read them if they hate vns so much.

[Anonymous No.18716691]

Reminder that the greatest VN of all time has a translation being released next month.

[Anonymous No.18716697]

what an awful thread

[Anonymous No.18716701]

>>18716224
Rin is the most /lit/ route, complete it now

[Anonymous No.18716720]

>>18716668
>most western vns are so ironic and try to subvert so much you have to ask why people even make and read them if they hate vns so much

I made a VN that was literally a love letter to the medium, but it didn't get popular at all. I hate VNs like DDLC, where it is clear the Dev has nothing but contempt for the medium. I genuinely love this medium, and would like to see it reach its potential (visuals + audio + prose based narrative is a great combination when people know what to do with it).

Picrelated is my VN for those curious

[Anonymous No.18716743]

We discuss literature here, not cartoons, video games, or comic books.
Leave immediately and never come back.
>>>/co/

[Anonymous No.18716753]

>>18716743
>implying literature's boundaries stop at the edge of simon & schuster's copyright

[Anonymous No.18716756]

>>18716743
the mods will move the thread if its that big a deal

[Anonymous No.18716881]

>>18711624
Dies irae is a masterpiece

[Anonymous No.18717007]

>visual novels
dead medium with no literary merit besides getting your dick hard desu

[Anonymous No.18717503]

>>18717007
If anything, novels are a dead medium given then nobody reads books anymore. On the other hand visual novels have much higher potential to appeal to people addicted to screen based stimulation.

Novels are a dying medium, but as a result of being so old have the best content. Visual novels are a superior medium, but as a result of being so young, have inferior content for now

[Anonymous No.18717660]

>>18716720
I usually just lurk and don't respond to anything, but this post is just SEETHING pretentiousness and bottled up resentment, and I feel like it warrants my time to point it out.

[Anonymous No.18717709]

>>18717503
If only more were made for mobile devices. Don't really want to sit in front of my pc for 30+ hours doing all the routes in a vn. Would much rather read/play it on my phone or iPad in bed.

[Anonymous No.18717920]

>>18716720
do you have a download link

[Anonymous No.18717929]

>>18717660
You would be seething as well if the most popular work in your favorite medium was some poorly put together work that subverts the medium. Only confirming the already negative preconceived notion most people already have of said medium.

>and I feel like it warrants my time to point it out.

You're probably right that it's not good to stew in this negativity. And assuming you are being genuine, I'll respond back to you in a genuine way. I'm just not sure what to do other than just try to focus my efforts on making another VN. Focusing my energy on something positive (making something) I think is constructive. But it feels Sisyphean when I know it probably won't result in anything. I'll do it anyway, because I feel oddly driven to do this, but another failure could easily result in more "bottled up resentment" as you put it

[Anonymous No.18717934]

>>18717920
>do you have a download link

Yeah, it's on Itch.io:
https://thezalor.itch.io/digital-seclusion

[Anonymous No.18717941]

>>18716720
I’ll read it anon.

[Anonymous No.18717954]

>>18717934
how do I know this won't nuke my computer

[Anonymous No.18717966]

>>18716224
Was it rape?

[Anonymous No.18717977]

>>18717934
Isolated in a room repurposed into a personal shrine to esoteric Japanese media. Our nameless protagonist has dedicated himself to a collection of retro Japanese computer games, with a particular fondness for early visual novels. Although decaying in a slovenly existence to the untrained eye, his retreat into digital life is enriched by the scripted interactions with various charming 2D girls. His one purpose in life is to chronicle his thoughts and reflections on each of the digital worlds he immerses himself in. However, one day while pulling out another visual novel to review, a girl leaps straight out of the cover art and begins interacting with him, face to face. But perhaps most shocking of all, in a completely unscripted manner.

[Anonymous No.18718026]

>>18717929
I literally did not even read this post. I mean it - not in the I-read-your-post-and-it-made-me-angry-so-I-pretend-I-am-aloof-by-telling-you-I-did-not-read-it 4chan way. I LITERALLY did not read your post beyond the first like ten words.

I write short stories for my own enjoyment. I program an engine for some of my stories for my own enjoyment.
I cannot imagine what it's like being you, downtrodden by this ABSOLUTELY inane shit, it's completely alien to me, but I do sympathize and I wish things will get better for you.

Don't respond to this post.

[Anonymous No.18718083]

>>18717941
Thanks, I genuinely appreciate the expression of interest. Likewise, I hope you find it interesting

[Anonymous No.18718091]

obligatory