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18701142 No.18701142 [Reply] [Original]

>doesn't write a single noteworthy book in all of history
Why are they such jobbers?


>b-b-but they do!!
name them.

>> No.18701169
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18701169

Name them so you can say they don’t count?
Fool

>> No.18701177

>>18701169
literally who
they have to be somewhat relevant m8

>> No.18701184

>>18701142
Belgium has Yourcenar and Maeterlinck. Also Cortázar was born in Brussels for some reason. And Noteboom is Dutch.

>> No.18701192

>>18701177
Your ignorance isn't a good metric for judging notability. Maybe read more and post less.

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>>18701177
See. You’re a ponce

>> No.18701198

>>18701184
>Julio Cortázar, born Julio Florencio Cortázar American Spanish; was an Argentine novelist born in brussels
holy mother of muttoids
I think I've heard of Maeterlinck though. Have you read anything from him?

>>18701192
sorry bro but your countries literature just isn't relevant.
I am the judge, jury and executioner here.

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I hate this board so fucking much.

>> No.18701219 [SPOILER] 
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kierkegaard
both of them

>> No.18701228

>>18701142
Netherlands has Spinoza

>> No.18701230

>>18701198
Corrázar's short stories are great, check them out.

>> No.18701246

Kalevala influenced the greatest fantasy fiction story in the world.

>> No.18701248

>>18701228
yes, a portuguese jew

>> No.18701264

>>18701142
Maybe try reading?

>> No.18701278
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>> No.18701375

>>18701198
>sorry bro but your countries literature just isn't relevant.
I'm a burger, dipshit. You're just a "/lit/ doesn't read" stereotype.

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>>18701142

>> No.18701397

Karen Blixen, Henrik Pontoppidan, Kierkegaard, H.C Andersen, August Strindberg, Vilhelm Moberg, Knut Hamsun, Knausgaard

>> No.18701406

>>18701142
"Hunger"

>> No.18701453

>>18701142
Poetic and prose eddas

>> No.18701457

>>18701453
Are from a country which is not highlighted?

>> No.18701469
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>supporting thinly veiled bait threads by actually replying with suggestions

>> No.18701479

>>18701142
Scandinavians are too happy to write good lit

>> No.18701481

>>18701469
I always sage when doing so.

>> No.18701491

>>18701397
>>18701406
Hamsun-pilled

Came here to say "Growth of the Soil".

>> No.18701563

>>18701169
Shut your stupid mouth, tripcunt.

>> No.18703015

>>18701142
read a book

>> No.18703177

>Denmark highlighted
>OP had a worse childhood than Hans Christian Andersen, because at least Hans got to spend his abused childhood with Hans Christian Andersen
I'm sorry your parents didn't love you, but please never post here again.

>> No.18703229

KNUT HAMSUN, KNUT HAMSUN, KNUT HAMSUN, AND KNUT HAMSUN.

>> No.18704417

>>18701246
Tolkien stole from the Finns. Stealing is not influencing. Tolkien defiled the pure Finnish mythos and mixed it with his own infantile fantasy world of goblins and dwarves.

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>>18701142
Imagine being such a dweeb you've never heard of Hans Christian Anderson.

Pic not related

>> No.18704545

>>18701208
This, he's like the second most performed playwright of all time and at least in the top 5 most famous.

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Everyone here is defending scandis. No one is defending Dutch-language /lit/

>> No.18704835

>>18703177
Based

>> No.18704843

>>18704417
Without Tolkien your larpy Beowulf copy "mythology" would have been forgotten by now, you should thank him he brought it its only relevance

>> No.18704845

>>18704738
I am >>18701395

>> No.18704850

>>18704843
>Without Tolkien your [I assume you mean anglo] larpy Beowulf copy "mythology" would have been forgotten by now
Wtf I hate Tolkien even more now?!

>relevance
kys

>> No.18704857

>>18704850
No I meant the finnish kabbalah is a larpy copy of Beowulf
>Wtf I hate Tolkien even more now?!
You have no soul

>> No.18704869

>>18704857
>You have no soul
Dumbing down myth & archetype to appeal to the declining intellectual standards is not muh soul. You are just a dumb self-indulgent child who believes that muh "plebs" were filtered by Tolkien and fail to see his greatness, when in fact it was you who fails to see just how derrivative and simplistic he was as compared to the great myth-writers of old (as well as figures like Lord Dunsany). We grew up. Please do so as well.

>> No.18704871

>>18704869
You're a pleb who was filtered by Tolkien and you fail to see his greatness, kys

>> No.18704872

Miss Smilla’s feeling for snow by Peter Hoeg.

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>>18704871

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>>18704875

>> No.18704887

>>18701142
>name them
abdul al-rapeem, mohamad al-bihed in'fidel
>but they're not-
SILENCE! I KILL YOU! >:(

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>>18704879
Aren't you supposed to be unpacking Tolkien as an LGBTQBLM+ ally right now?

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>>18704888
You cannot understand Tolkien if you're alphabet soup people

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>>18704896
And yet you are just incapable of refuting criticism as them. Sad!

>> No.18704905

>>18704899
>>18704896
>>18704888
>>18704879
>>18704875
Fucking kill yourselves.

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>>18704899
I am but I haven't seen any criticism worth refuting, try harder next time. Or are you one of the alphabet people? Would explain why you seethe so hard

>> No.18704917

>>18704907
100% you haven't read even read Dunsany or the old summerian myths
100% you read less than 2 hours per day
100% your brain has been melted by consumerism in the past
100% you aren't capable of articulating thoughts that are more than 5 sentences in length
100% you cope by pretending this is alright, and actually makes you superior
Cope, seethe, dilate, and, most importantly, grow up.

>> No.18704922

>>18704917
>Lord Dunsany
literally who, I could name some irrelevant hack you haven't read for a cheap gotcha but I won't stoop so low
>the old summerian myths
I started with the Sumerians as anyone should (learn to spell)
As for the rest, no that's projection, I guess you're a sperg who can only think in absolutes
Keep dilating, tranny

>> No.18704926

>>18704922
>being this proud of your ignorance
As expected. Just go back to reading Tolkien, Rowling, and Dan Brown, lmao, you are insufferable

>> No.18704930

>>18704922
>literally who
>irrelevant

>> No.18704935

>>18704926
>Haven't read one arbitrary irrelevant hack he thinks makes him superior
>g-g-go back to r-reading Dan Brown!!
Alright then, whatever makes you feel better about yourself, tranny

>> No.18704940

>>18704935
>unironically thinks "relevance" is a relevant measure of greatness and that one of the most influential fantasy writers of all time is "irrelevant" because his reddit trannies don't talk about him
>for the 9999 thread in a row, still can't articulate what makes Tolkien good
Commit suicide. Now.

>> No.18704949

>>18704922
>>18704935
jesus fucking christ man stop embarassing yourself

>> No.18704958

>>18704940
>n-no he's literally the best even though no one talks about him
Well articulate why he's more influential than Tolkien then
>>18704949
Seethe, tranny

>> No.18704967

>>18704958
I guess Borges, Yeats, Fitzegerald, Clarke, Lovecraft, Howard, CAS, Vance, Wolfe, and Tolkien himself just don't matter. Let's stick to what is memed by il/lit/terates on this board as a measure of greatness instead.
You still need to rope yourself.

>> No.18704972

>>18704922
You know that "I don't read" is just a meme, right?

>> No.18704973

>>18704967
Name dropping is not articulating why he is supposedly the most influential, retard. You're exactly that which you criticize. Keep seething, tranny.

>> No.18704982

>>18704973
>tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny
>influence influence influence influence influence influence influence influence influence influence influence influence influence influence influence influence influence influence influence influence influence influence influence influence influence influence
>relevancy relevancy relevancy relevancy relevancy relevancy relevancy relevancy relevancy relevancy relevancy relevancy relevancy relevancy relevancy relevancy relevancy relevancy relevancy relevancy relevancy relevancy relevancy relevancy relevancy relevancy relevancy
No one likes you. Kill yourself.

>> No.18704990

>>18704982
>still can't articulate what makes his literal who influential
Alright retard
>unironically thinks "being liked" is a relevant measure of greatness

>> No.18704991

>>18701142
>name them
Your jealousy is showing, go read a book
Oh, what am I saying
Well, I'll do it for you then, have fun being miserable

>> No.18704994

>>18704990
>still can't articulate literally anything of value
>expects others to effortpost
>is unironically unable to judge books on their own merits, needs to resort to muh influence

>> No.18704996

>>18701169
The cartoon is somewhat known, her books not really.

>> No.18705000

>>18704996
The actual state of /lit/

>> No.18705003

This thread made me lose 20 IQ points. Time to filter Tolkien I guess. This shit happens every single time.

>> No.18705005

>>18704994
I'm merely playing by your standards mr retard. If you're not better than what you claim to criticize you're bottom of the barrel. Put in some effort or begone.
>is unironically unable to judge books on their own merits, needs to resort to muh influence
>>18704940
Eh you're the one who brought it up lmao

>> No.18705016

>>18705005
I outlined my main argument in the first post, moron, an you are outright lying about me being the one to bring influence up.
Fuck you, I wasted enough time already. I just want you to know, that you are the lowest scum of /lit/ an possibly the single worst interaction I have ha with anyone in 6 years of browsing this shithole.
>literally who
>irrelevant hack
are the single biggest possible copes an single-handedly discredits everything you say.

>> No.18705026

>>18705005
I am not him. I actually like Tolkien. Your popularity dick-measuring is just embarrassing.

>> No.18705032

>>18705016
You've been here for 6 years and you're still this retarded? Man what a waste of time, it explains everything.
Your argument was
>no Tolkien bad because later, Dunsany good because earlier
Come on you can do better than that. But maybe it's time for you to leave this place.

>> No.18705034

>>18705000
People not knowing about her books tells you something about /lit/?

>> No.18705036

>>18704738

I am Dutch myself and it's true that nothing 'major' has been written in Dutch. I don't agree with the statement that nothing noteworthy has been written though.

>> No.18705038

>>18705032
>no Tolkien bad because later, Dunsany good because earlier
Suicide now, dyslexic cunt.

>> No.18705043

>>18705032
The majority of anons here are decently well-read. They will meme about not reading, but when challenged the won't double down by disregarding writers they have not read.

>> No.18705045

>>18705026
Sure you are samefag. There's no need to measure when you've got your knickers in such a twist over a shitpost

>> No.18705050

>>18701142
what is this map even trying to depict

>> No.18705059

>>18705050
the most soulless merchant nations in the world

>> No.18705066

>>18705059
then they left some of the worst out

>> No.18705070

>>18705038
Keep proving my point
>>18705043
I just enjoy riling up pretentious faggots

>> No.18705607

>>18705050
map of the only white people in the world

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>the two 2-digit IQ mongoloids shitting up this thread

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>>18701142
>who is Henrik Ibsen?
>who is Hans Christian Andersen?
>who is Ludvig Holberg?
>who is Karen Blixen?
>who is Søren Kirkegaard?
>who is Bjørnstjerne Bjørnson?
>who is Georg Brandes?
>who is Georg Stiernhielm?
>who is Multatuli?
>who is Louis Couperus?
>who is Guido Gezelle
>who is Spinoza?
>who is Erasmus?
>who is Johan Huizinga?

Just to name a few. Are you a historylet and literaturelet, or just dumb? Or would you like to post nose, Menachem?

>> No.18705700

>>18701278
bug catcher foucault

>> No.18705793

var kan jag hitta ebooks på svenska? och köp usedbooks (online)?
jag vill läsa Äldreomsorgen i Övre Kågedalen
(jag är inte så bra att svenska men vill jobba på det och läsa svensk /lit/eratur)

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>Dutch
>not a single noteworthy book

I don't think so Jeff

>> No.18705806

>>18705793
Svenska ebooks finns på zlibrary också, kolla sticky:n (hittade hur som helst Äldreomsorg i Övre Kågedalen där). Andrahandsböcker hittar du med lätthet på bokborsen punkt se. Lycka till, anon.

>> No.18705893

nobody defending belgians when they have
>Maurice Maeterlink
>Hugo Claus
>Amélie Nothomb
>Willem Elsschot
>louis paul boon

If you can get your hands on a translation of anything from Elsschot, I'd highly recommend it. He deserves so much more fame. Easily in my top 4 authors.

>> No.18705899

>>18705893
I've read "Cheese" in English and it is really great

>> No.18705949

>nobody ITT knows about the single most important piece of literature written in medieval times AKA Van den Vos Reynaerde

>> No.18706035

>>18701142
My nigga have you never heard of Kierkeegard? Delete this awful thread.

>> No.18706043

>>18705806
tack så mycket, anon!
har du några rekommendationer om bra eller klassisk svensk literatur? det ser ut som Strindberg är mest internationally famous, men jag vet inte om ändra förrfattare som (/lit/) svenskar tycker är bra.
tackar igen!

>> No.18706123

>>18705793
om du inte är bra på svenska bör du inte läsa äldreomsorgen

>> No.18706152

>>18706043
Eyvind Johnson är en fantastisk författare, likaså Hjalmar Söderberg för att nämna två exempel. Johnsons 'Strändernas Svall' är ett mer psykologiskt återberättande av Odysséen, medan Söderbergs 'Doktor Glas' är en dagboksroman om moral och obesvarad kärlek. Några andra namn att lägga på minnet är Hjalmar Bergman, Selma Lagerlöf, Per Wästberg, och sist men absolut inte mins Pär Lagerkvist. Lagerkvist är nog den jag skulle rekommendera främst för någon som är ganska ny till språket. Han har en väldigt klar och koncis stil och slår inga grammatiska kullerbyttor som är särskilt svåra att hänga med i. Stoffet är ofta bibliskt, som i t.ex. Barabbas (rekommenderar varmt), eller historisk som i Dvärgen (om en pseudo-Machiavellisk narr i renässansens italien)

>> No.18706222

>>18705036
are van gogh’s letters any good? got a collection from my grandma

>> No.18706234

>>18704738
wasn't fucking Spinoza Dutch?

>> No.18706243

>>18706234
Portuguese Jew

>> No.18706254

>>18701142
Hamsun
Ibsen
Kierkegaard
Swedenborg
Strindberg
Knausgaard
Andersen

The beneluxes are useless though

>> No.18706400

>>18706254
>2 actual writers and 5 literally who's
sorry nordoid but you snowniggers are outclassed by benelux
let's not get into art or science either or you'll start crying

>> No.18706425

>>18701169
Based!

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>>18706152
>Doktor Glas
skulle precis säga, detta är väsentlig incellitteratur

>> No.18706603

>>18706254
The Walloons are fine they can speak french

>> No.18706608

>>18704545
So is J K. Rowling, it doesn't make her good.

>> No.18706711

>>18701142
>>18705036
>>18704738
Harry Mulisch, W.F. Hermans, Gerard Reve, Jan Wolkers, Louis Couperus, Arnon Grunberg, Hella Haasse, Nescio, even Anne Frank lmao

>> No.18706775

>>18706460
Det har alltid förundrat mig hur Doktor Glas inte tagit plats på /lit/ som ett så kallat mem.

>> No.18706793

>>18706775
käft dallny

>> No.18706885

>>18706793
Du vad