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Enough.

>> No.18695716

>>18695695
If you are trying to start with the Greeks this aint it

First of all, you gotta go with Homer
Second of all, those books on the picture are in English
This ain't it chief

>> No.18695726

>>18695716
reading list gate keeping
the best kind of gate keeping

>> No.18696216

>>18695695
>caring about gay bullshit

>> No.18696228

>books people buy to fit in on /lit/

>> No.18696253

>>18696216
>>18696228
>nu-/lit/

>> No.18696258

>>18695695
What's the best format for a dense reference volume of collected writing/essays? It seems that 6.4” × 9” is the most common (both books in OPs picture follow this format more or less: Plato: Complete Works is 6.5” × 9.25” and The Complete Works of Aristotle is 6.4” × 8.8” ), but there are always outliers (Josephus: Complete Works and The Complete Works of Philo are both 6.36” × 9.56”)

What are you guys’ thoughts?

>> No.18696261
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18696261

>>18695695
its working...

>> No.18696269

>>18696261
only 1 and a half days of work and I have already changed someone's entire life.

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>>18695695

>> No.18696275

>>18696253
nu/lit/ buys every book they're "supposed" to, then takes a picture and uploads it to their "social media". same as dumb bitches on "booktok" and "booktube". evaluate yourself.

>> No.18696278
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18696278

>>18695695
Do people ever read the whole Summa?

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>>18696278
I got this but I haven't read it yet

>> No.18696299

>>18696274
The Basic Works is pretty close to complete honestly. Has like the whole Physics, Metaphysics, and Ethics, and most of the Organon and big chunks of the other works. There's not much of else you need but you've got enough of what's left included anyway. No idea about the Plato Reader though. Sounds like it lacks more.

>> No.18696309

>>18695716
>This ain't it chief
>>>/reddit/

>> No.18696326

https://youtu.be/T4G-8ZmM4H4

>> No.18696335

Are there any more of these collections for major thinkers. I have collected works of Spinoza and Descartes, but is there one for Hume or any other major thinker.

>> No.18696363

>>18696326
i cant hear shit over the water and wind what a dumbass

>> No.18696365
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18696365

Imagine still being stuck in Aristotelian thinking.

>> No.18696367

>>18696335
They do them sometimes for more modern people, like Peirce, James, Russell, etc.

>> No.18696382

>>18696367
Peirce collections are very incomplete, but there are lots of online projects trying to make some decent stuff.

>> No.18696385

>>18696299
Euthyphro, Apology, Crito, Meno, Phaedo, Symposium, Phaedrus, and Republic.
so no, not complete. but good enough for anyone who might get memed into buying pic related in the op.

>> No.18696403

>>18696385
I have the Plato Complete Works volume myself, I think it's only like 50 dollars? Was when I got it. My professor asked us to buy it for his Plato class so I did. But I have the Basic Works of Aristotle instead of the two volume set. Again, same professor asked us to buy it for his Aristotle class. The thing with Plato is that all the lesser known dialogues sound very interesting in their own right, like the Timaeus and the Parmenides and the Sophist and the Philebus and so forth, but I'm not sure about the Aristotle stuff left out of the Basic Works.

>> No.18696427

>>18696275
>buys
>takes a picture and uploads it
to whom are you talking?

>> No.18696531

I plan on reading all of Plato's dialogues but I'm really not interested in Aristotle.

>> No.18696630

>>18696253
everything on /lit/ is unironically shit

>> No.18696650

Complete works of Plato I can get behind. But why in the fuck would you read the complete works of Aristotle? It's fucking 3000 pages or some shit. Holy fuck. Only scholars have read half this shit.

>> No.18696655

>>18696650
people buy these things as ornaments. it's very feminine behavior

>> No.18696657

>>18695716
Faggot

>> No.18696757

>>18696531
You should at least read his nicomachean ethics and poetics.

>> No.18696798

>>18695695
>>18696531
I've been meaning to start on Aristotle but holy shit Organon looks like the most excruciating mental rigor to get through.

>> No.18696856

>>18696798
Totally worth it. The Categories is not bad, but it is utterly mind bending at first even if you have a background in philosophy
>substance is that which can receive contraries

so based.

>> No.18696862

>>18696630
What more could you expect form a board whose greatest achievement is unironically Big Chungus

>> No.18698198

>>18696757
I'll read nicomachean ethics I suppose, since I already own the book, but it looks so incredibly dry, and frankly I'm not interested in philosophy as a whole as much as I am in the philosophy of religion/spirituality, which is why I like Plato so much in the first place.

>> No.18698228

>>18695695
Plato sounds like it could be an OS or something.

>> No.18698241

i feel the same degree of dismay seeing those Aristotle's on a book shelf than I do seeing a tattoo on a woman's arm.

>> No.18698508

>>18696403
>lesser known dialogues
those 4 are literally Plato's most important dialogues

>> No.18698928

>>18696403
>I have the Plato Complete Works volume myself, I think it's only like 50 dollars?
It should be less since it's obviously free of right.

>> No.18698980

Okay if people meme buying that Plato edition what edition should I get? I've already read homer and I want to read Plato. I was going to buy the complete works, do people meme it because contrarianism or something? Or that people get it and never read it?

>> No.18699002

>>18698980
It's only a meme if it ends up sitting unread on your bookshelf to make you feel smart in front of your friends. If you're actually going to read it, of course get the complete works. Much more convenient and cheaper than the alternative.

>> No.18699661

>>18696650
I have some large collections of work that I know I'll never fully read. I like the fact that I have it incase something reignites my interest in a subject. Plato's complete works is a great example. I'll read a few dialogs and allow myself to reflect on it instead of just powering through the whole book. I get more out of it this way.

>> No.18699913

>>18699661
Yeah I agree with that in regards to Plato's complete works since there's a lot of rather brief sections that are easy to read through and think about like you said, but with Aristotle it seems like the book will last you a couple lives if that's how you read it. Such a big tomb.

>> No.18700016

>>18696427
/stack/
/shelf/
/haul/
etc

>> No.18700085

>>18698980
If you want to read all of Plato in modern translations in a physical book format for a good price, OP's edition suits you well. The biggest drawback is that the introductions and notes are somewhat barren and at times unhelpful for the casual reader. Compare for example the 2 pages of introduction and a few pages worth of notes for the Republic with the OWC edition that offers 50 pages of introduction and 80 pages full of notes. If you really want to dive deep into these works introduction and notes can be pretty helpful but you could of course also just substitute them with other sources.

I'd say if you want to read all of Plato go for OP's edition and if you just want to read the greatest hits, buy single editions of the dialogues. Or buy single editions of all of the dialogues if you don't care about space/money.

>> No.18700305

>>18696295
>I haven't read
You're not alone

>> No.18700344

>>18696299
Is what remains of the Organon in The Basic Works satisfactory? I have a copy of it because it's cheaper than the complete Aristotle and I have no interest in reading everything Aristotle wrote. I'm quite happy with the collection overall but I'll be a little disappointed if the Organon is significantly lacking.

>> No.18701696

>>18698228
PlatOS
>>18698980
I didn't meme buy it since my professor required it for his Plato class, but yes go buy the Cooper volume. It's the standard complete set of Plato dialogues and then some more (apocryphal but regarded as authentic in ancient times by Platonists). It's good. My issue with smaller collections is that Plato has very interesting ideas in his lesser-read dialogues.

>> No.18701706

>>18698508
And they're unfortunately not read by people new to Plato. People new to Plato read the Republic at most, otherwise it's very basic stuff like the Euthyphro/Apology/Crito/Phaedo quartet or the Meno and Symposium. Even when I took a class on Plato we only read half the Parmenides and the Sophist. They're very underread outside of Plato fans and scholars, which is a shame.

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>>18695695
start with the sumerians

>> No.18701855

>>18696335
Cambridge's translations of Kant's works by Guyer and Wood

>> No.18702603

>>18696278
summa whole dick