/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.18689439]

wow this fucking sucks

[Anonymous No.18689444]

yes

[Anonymous No.18689462]

I concur

[Anonymous No.18689472]

correct

[Anonymous No.18689473]

That is correct

[Anonymous No.18689478]

it unironically does. nevermind reading like light novel pulp crap, the message of the book is literally "stop watching TV and read more books". bradbury is a crusty boomer yelling at clouds and also a neoluddite sci-fi writer. MUH SHAKESPEARE

[Anonymous No.18689944]

>>18689444
>>18689462
>>18689472
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>>18689473
>>18689478
Filtered.

[Anonymous No.18689950]

>>18689478
>this post isn’t bait

[Anonymous No.18689951]

>>18689478
That's really the message you got from it? It's not even a hard read in the slightest so this is just sad.

[Anonymous No.18689953]

>>18689439
It is ok, why you didn't liked it? It is not the best book ever, but considering that it is a short work it isn't bad.

[Anonymous No.18689998]

>>18689439
It's shit but I like some of the characters. I wish I could move the characters from this shit and put them on 1984, where the story is good but the characters are shit.

[Anonymous No.18690019]

>>18689998
Actually O'Brien is cool, we can keep him

[Anonymous No.18690023]

Is shitting on the dystopian novels a psyop for authoritarian fags or what

[Anonymous No.18690084]

>>18690023
The dystopia the characters live in is caused by their willful ignorance. 451 sucks but you’re statement makes no sense, and if anything it shows that you didn’t even read it.

[Anonymous No.18690115]

I liked it

[Anonymous No.18690121]

>>18689950
>>18689951
>In writing the short novel Fahrenheit 451, I thought I was describing a world that might evolve in four or five decades. But only a few weeks ago, in Beverly Hills one night, a husband and wife passed me, walking their dog. I stood staring after them, absolutely stunned. The woman held in one hand a small cigarette-package-sized radio, its antenna quivering. From this sprang tiny copper wires which ended in a dainty cone plugged into her right ear. There she was, oblivious to man and dog, listening to far winds and whispers and soap-opera cries, sleep-walking, helped up and down curbs by a husband who might just as well not have been there. This was not fiction.[82]
crusty boomer has squidward F U T U R E moment and writes dime novel to cope
"but anon you got filtered lmao it's not about that"
>When the novel was first published, there were those who did not find merit in the tale. Anthony Boucher and J. Francis McComas were less enthusiastic, faulting the book for being "simply padded, occasionally with startlingly ingenious gimmickry, ... often with coruscating cascades of verbal brilliance [but] too often merely with words."[73] Reviewing the book for Astounding Science Fiction, P. Schuyler Miller characterized the title piece as "one of Bradbury's bitter, almost hysterical diatribes," while praising its "emotional drive and compelling, nagging detail."[74] Similarly, The New York Times was unimpressed with the novel and further accused Bradbury of developing a "virulent hatred for many aspects of present-day culture, namely, such monstrosities as radio, TV, most movies, amateur and professional sports, automobiles, and other similar aberrations which he feels debase the bright simplicity of the thinking man's existence."[75]
so it's crusty boomer overreacting to mccarthyism and television and he really, really wants you to read books. that's why it's a "classic". teachers like the message and shoved it down their students throats, and it's a short dime novel thriller with robot dogs so students don't protest too much. CLASSIC. The same people who think this shit is classic think Life of Pi and Kite Runner are classic, IE. femoids.
You should be reading Brave New World not this shit. no reason to burn books because nobody reads them! also a far better take on MUH SHAKESPEARE
Fraudlent "classic", adored by fans of the "dystopia" genre, women.

[Anonymous No.18690172]

>>18690121
>fans of the "dystopia" genre, women.
???
I want to know such women

[Anonymous No.18690183]

>>18690172
all women. its one of their favorite genres
see: goodreads

[Anonymous No.18690193]

>>18689439
bradbury is one of the great minds of the 20th century

[Anonymous No.18690208]

>>18690084
No it's caused by the society around them clamping down on everything that's perceived as "not good", you're the one making no sense here. Authoritarian fags like to talk nonsense about the dystopian novels because they'd very much like to deride the messages. It's actually pretty sad.

[Anonymous No.18690216]

>>18689439
It's good if you read it when you're young. It's like baby's first dystopian novel. Reading it now would be boring no doubt.

[Anonymous No.18690219]

>>18690121
You didn't read it and it shows.

[Anonymous No.18690238]

>>18690084
>willful ignorance
>being conditioned from birth by mass media, the education system, peer pressure, psychiatric system, etc is a choice
Bugman take

>>18690208
>muh authoritarianism
The role of the government in the novel is very different from what you'd expect of a generically "authoritarian" government. This government uses shallow entertainment/ distractions and propaganda to keep the people away from any real thought or action, and only uses violence as a spectacular last resort. Something much more insidious than brute force authoritarianism.

[Anonymous No.18690245]

It had the potential to be better than 1984. It has the best theme and premise of any dystopian novel I read. Unfortunately, It was just so badly written. Usually Bradbury does better than this.

[Anonymous No.18690248]

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>>18690238
I figured it was just about laziness and more akin to Nietzsche's 'Last-Man' attitude than anything more purposefully sinister.

[Anonymous No.18690267]

>>18690219
if you say so

[Anonymous No.18691602]

you can just spot the americans desperately trying to defend this book in this thread

[Anonymous No.18691620]

>>18690121
You are clearly a troon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ciQoov55fM

You will never be a woman.

[Anonymous No.18691768]

>>18689439
Yeah

[Anonymous No.18691863]

>>18690183
Hunger games does not count

[Anonymous No.18691865]

>>18689439
No shit American literature is
abysmal.

[Anonymous No.18691867]

>>18690121
>MUH SHAKESPEARE
>>18689478
>MUH SHAKESPEARE

Been gone for a while -- what is this shit? are these ladies implying Shakespeare is over-rated?

[Anonymous No.18691952]

>>18689439
I bought that edition and was unaware that half of the pages were scholarly articles. I thought I was only halfway through the book and it just ended :(

[Anonymous No.18692664]

>>18689439
I used to sperg out against the shit takes and ignorance around this book, but now I've given up. It is precisely because the ideas are so accurate that the idiotic criticism manifests. If you truly understand the message of Fahrenheit the criticisms should come as no surprise any more. Threads like these do more to confirm the validity of the message than any sperg post.

[Anonymous No.18692881]

>>18689439
i liked the idea but it could have been written a bit better

[Anonymous No.18693651]

>>18690248
>anything more purposefully sinister
I mean they set people's houses on fire for owning books, that's pretty sinister

[Anonymous No.18693808]

One of the annoying things about getting older is seeing the younger people coming up and not knowing anything. I know this is the case, for each generation, but it's still boring. You see this every day on /lit/ where we continually have the same threads we've had for years.

>>18689478
There's more to it than that; it presaged the arrival of social media, which is what Montag's wife is engaging in when she interacts with her television "family" every day and has an obsession with doing so. On a similar note, a deeper concept that the book touches on quite well is that of being a man and dealing with a wife who—as with most women—is highly impressionable and who not only resists but actively impedes man in his journey to maintain his freedom in the face of opposition. Woman, in the world of mass produced information and social fads, will betray even her mate in adherence to her fatuous social programming.