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kevin macdonald touches on it I believe but I'm looking for something comprehensive and detailed

>> No.18672810

David Duke has a book on this, I haven't read it though.

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>>18672787
>Clever though be the many thoughts expressed by mouth or pen about the invention of money and its enormous value as a civiliser, against such praises should be set the curse to which it has always been doomed in song and legend. If gold here figures as the demon strangling manhood's innocence, our greatest poet shews at last the goblin's game of paper money. The Nibelung's fateful ring become a pocket-book, might well complete the eerie picture of the spectral world-controller. By the advocates of our Progressive Civilisation this rulership is indeed regarded as a spiritual, nay, a moral power; for vanished Faith is now replaced by "Credit," that fiction of our mutual honesty kept upright by the most elaborate safeguards against loss and trickery. What comes to pass beneath the benedictions of this Credit, we now are witnessing, and seem inclined to lay all blame upon the Jews.
>Or do you perhaps see or smell in this the doctrine of Communism? Are you so foolish or so wicked as to declare that the necessary redemption of the race of man from the grossest, most immoral enslavement to base materialism is the same as putting into practice the most absurd and senseless doctrine, Communism? Will you not see that in this doctrine of a mathematically equal division of property and earnings an unthinking attempt has been made to solve the problem? But will you therefore also decry the problem itself as absurd and nonsensical? Beware! The result of thirty-three years of peace shows you human society today in such a state of ruin and pauperism that by the end of this year you will see around you the ghastly figures of pale famine! Take care before it is too late! Do not give alms, but recognise the right, the human right bestowed by God, or you may live to see the day when nature, violated and mocked, will rise in brutal vengeance. Then her wild cry of victory might well herald that Communism; and if it last for only the briefest time, because it is impossible that its principles should prevail, yet this brief rule would suffice to destroy perhaps for a long time all the achievements of a civilisation two thousand years old. Do you think I am threatening you? No, I am warning!

>> No.18672992

>>18672810
thanks anon, this is pretty much exactly what I was looking for
hopefully its well written and sourced

>> No.18673093

>>18672813
I thought I was going to be blown away by Wagner when I got around to him, but this is choppy and overly elaborate

>> No.18673122

>>18673093
It's the Victorian translation, in his native tongue Wagner was quite the prose stylist and even exerted an influence on Nietzsche's style.

>> No.18673127

>>18672787
I haven't read it but The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit by E Michael Jones. But Jones is kind of a larpy schizo and even conservative Catholics like Bill Donohue don't like him.

>> No.18673128

>>18672813
>Will you not see that in this doctrine of a mathematically equal division of property and earnings an unthinking attempt has been made to solve the problem?
does not know what communism is

>> No.18673136

-Jewish Bolshevism. Myth and Reality (by von Biberstein, dunno if there is an English translation). Probably the most scientific book on Jewish involvement in the Bolshevik cause
-200 years together by Solshenizyn
-Also Henry Ford and Luther, if you want to go down the NWO/World government path

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>>18673212
>>18673240
>redditpol

>> No.18673265

>>18673212
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCkyWBPaTC8

>> No.18673303

>>18673265
boomer check

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>>18673255
Nope reddit pseudo-leftists are radlibs

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>>18673318
>more redditpol

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>>18672787
>pol bait
Oh come on,Fascism as a whole developed from left anarchism,UNIRONICALLY
Take for example the Cercle Proudhon,who were ex-anarchists Ultra nationalists
Or Werner Sombart,who coined the term ''late-stage Capitalism'' and was praised by Engels as the only german proffesor to have understood Das Kapital. (He was also friends with Schmitt)
He supported Nazi germany for a time,he also wrote an entire work called ''The Jews and Modern Capitalism''
He also seems to have developed a more primitive type of ''Volkism'',I think Heidegger did that much better however.
I'd unironically imagine Sombart as a /pol/ack ,he talks about the ''German warrior spirit'' and compares it to the ''comercial english people'',who had,according to him,lost all warlike instincts
He's also a ultrastatist anti-individualist and wants the germans to rediscover their glorious past as a warrior people.
He did change his views on nazism at one point.
He also changed his views on Marxism,and I'm not even sure he could be called a ''believer of dialectical materialism'' by the end of his life.

Also,Gentile,the idealist,got praised by Lenin too once.
I think he mentions this in one of his works on dialectical materialism.

Georges Sorel at one point even ''critiques'' Marx for dismissing ''ideologies''(Or theories?) who tend to look towards the past instead of the future.
I'll make another reply posting the quote later,if I find it,since it reallly seems uncharacteristic of Sorel to say such a thing

You should search for some books on the jewish nature and origins of Capitalism instead OP.
There are plenty of good ''Far right'' writers who aren't really developing/responding to Marx also,but this thread isn't about that.
>>18673212
>>18673240
>>18673318
>redditpol

>> No.18673561

>>18673318
>hurr those are radlibs, I'm a leftist
In the geneology of ideas, leftism is merely an offspring of French Revolutionary liberalism that came to fetishize class and economic equality versus the other equalites fetishized by other forms of liberalism. If you look at the first socialist and communist thinkers, all of their direct influences were the first generation of liberals brought about by the French Revolution. Even if they "argued against" aspects of those thinkers in rejecting their (what would come to be known as) bourgeois liberalism, they were still clearly their offspring merely taking their ideas and values and applying them to a different arena (the economic versus the social and political). When the more class-oriented characters within the French Revolution such as the Communards are considered, the truth falls into place: despite your whining, screaming, and pleading otherwise, you are, always have been, and always will be a liberal. Cope, seethe, and dilate.

>> No.18673566

>>18672787
Frank Britton "Behind Communism" and "The Hoax of Soviet antisemitism"

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>>18672787
Moses Hess was a Jewish author in Marx's circle who wrote the first Zionist text.

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>>18673569
His magnum opus is Rome and Jerusalem

>> No.18673589

>>18673561
Note: before you reveal your feminine nature by saying something passive-aggressive and snarky, the use of "Communards" here is in reference to members of the original Paris commune of the first Revolution, not the better-known one of the Franco-Prussian War.

>> No.18674565

>>18673136
Ford was a 33rd degree freemason

>> No.18674594

>>18673136
Amazon has a bunch of Solzhenitsyn but not Two Hundred Years Together
Is this because it’s not widely read/printed or is it suppressed?

>> No.18674608

>>18674594
>Is this because it’s not widely printed or is it suppressed?
what’s the difference

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Dr E Michael Jones

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This is really interesting if you want to read someone address the jewish question from a non-anti-semitic point of view.
This book (from 1922) was Hilaire Belloc’s attempt to warn the Jews of Europe that if they kept acting as a nation within nations and also concealing that fact even though everyone knew it, Europeans were going to chimp out on them. His stated purpose is resolving the conflict to the mutual benefit of both parties, since he thinks Jews made valuable contributions to European society and did not want harm to come to them

>> No.18674629

>>18674608
Well the vast majority of books eventually go out of print because nobody wants to read them.

>> No.18674685

>>18673128
Strange, it never happens

>> No.18674695

>>18673556
>Oh come on,Fascism as a whole developed from left anarchism,UNIRONICALLY
wat

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A lot to wade through but there's quite a bit of pertinent information about the Jewish aspect of 20th-century communism.

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>give me books to justify my already firmly rooted beliefs
Pathetic.

>> No.18674995

>>18673561
"leftism" is a sublation of liberalism. read something other than wikipedia

>> No.18675024

>>18674626
And then WW2 happened and they got a pro bono pass

>> No.18675597

>>18674626
>non-antisemitic
no

>> No.18675722

>>18673212
>>18673240
What is this schizo leftypol tranny shit. Fuck off.

>> No.18675744

>>18673318
You will die in a world more unequal than you can ever imagine. You may as well just off yourself now.

>> No.18675752

>>18674995
Leftism originated as liberalism and almost all communists and socialists portrayed themselves as completing liberalism or the enlightenment.

>> No.18675761

>>18674626
>hurr durr non-anti-semitic
For as long as semitism exists, anti-semitism will also exist. It's literally caused by the anti-gentile nature of judaism, its in their book.

>> No.18675773

>>18674695
Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile were Marxists until they realized how fucking retarded it was.

>> No.18675817

>>18673212
Historically illiterate. Communists allied with every Capitalist powerhouse on the planet to bring down Germany. Debunked.
>>18673240
>class traitors
Class doesn't exist. It was swept away by the extreme egalitarianism of long ago. You are conflating class with status, hence why you are rightfully ridiculed everywhere you go. Keep flipping burgers while dreaming about imaginary merchant boogiemen whenever history has documented quite clearly who is running things and who isn't.
>>18673318
>Nope reddit pseudo-leftists are radlibs
LARP all the way back to bunkerchan.

>> No.18676640

>>18675761
For as long as white people exist, anti-whiteness will exist. It's literally caused by the racist nature of white society, it's in their history.

>> No.18676712

>>18675761
The point is that it is written from a perspective that is harder for normies to reject because it is an appeal to compassion while still explaining exactly the issues that come about with large jewish populations in your country.
He says in the book “if your people don’t stop screwing Europeans, bad things will happen”
Normies think that the conflicts between Jews and Europeans are entirely fake and that Hitler was completely delusional about Jews causing problems, which is not even remotely true.

>> No.18676912

>>18672787
Controversy of Zion. (Douglas Reed).

Oh, here are some documentation about the jewish origins of your fuhrer:
https://destination-yisrael.biblesearchers.com/destination-yisrael/2012/05/-fuehrer-adolf-hitler-was-the-grandson-of-freiherr-salomon-mayer-von-rothschild-the-head-of-the-vien.html

Hitler jewish DNA:
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/1.5104559

>> No.18676944

>>18672787
Americans are retarded. Its not the communism which has been propping up Jewish power for the last two centuries.

>> No.18676963

>>18673561
Of course you are a metaphysician, not a dialectician. So basically a brainlet.
Also, Nietzche sucked ass in economy. This retard didn't have any idea of what is capital accumulation, profit (surplus labor), commodity fetischism.
Do you even think your national capitalism hitler is anything else than primo liberal, industrialist, modernist, but larping as traditionalist?

Had you read Engels, you would know that he despise anything that goes after the primitive Gens, so you idea of them being sons of the revolution is invalid.
Marx, in on the jewish question, criticized the french revolution as being an egoistical revolution.
Maybe you should get out of your comfort zone.

>> No.18676984

>>18674995
Leftism is, originally, the left portion of the french parliamentary assemble. The right side was people in favor of royal regime restoration.
That said, all of those people, were in favor of Capitalism.
Except a few exception, like Gracchus Baboeuf. Who died, of course.

>> No.18676995

>>18672787
Why were the Jews "chosen"?

To evangelize the world.

The majority of them turned their backs on that task, but the moral and psychological weight of that duty weighs on them, regardless of how fervently, or for however many centuries they repudiate it.

Communism is a proxy scheme that satisfies the Jewish evangelical impulse. That is why they pursue so fervently. It is almost as if they wish to persuade God Himself that *this* is their true reason for being -- their justification before God and men.

>> No.18677003

>>18676944
I think subconsciously, americans assimilate communism with the cold war, and the threat of nuclear anihilation.
Retrospectively, it's retarded, because the war never happened. But americans still are retarded.
Now they larp as Hitlerians, when their grandfathers were the very people who killed germans and destroyed germany.

>> No.18677028

>>18676640
Excellent false analogy, nigger
i bet everyone will fall for it
commit sudoku

>> No.18677033

>>18676995
>Communism is a proxy scheme that satisfies the Jewish evangelical impulse.
And money worshipping isn't, right?
What you don't know, is that communism goes back to the Essenes, 2000 years ago. And that german tribes, during Julius Caesar, were communal.

>> No.18677175

>>18675817
>Communists allied with every Capitalist powerhouse on the planet to bring down Germany. Debunked.
Debunked that Bolsheviks weren't communist, but market socitalist, aka State Capitalists.

>> No.18677205

>hurr we must oppose communism because it's an offshoot of jacobin thought
>as if fascism isn't either
really makes you think

>> No.18677835

>>18675773
>Giovanni Gentile were Marxists
never happened
Please shut up

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>>18675817
>Communists allied with every Capitalist powerhouse on the planet to bring down Germany.
never happened
>Class doesn't exist. It was swept away by the extreme egalitarianism of long ago.
Holy Jesus
kys btw

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>>18672787
The jews are racially and spiritually different from the rest of the world. For a multitude of reasons via an admixture of religion and biologically ingrained behaviours they jews are deceitful and greedy and stick together because its a successful ploy to have a group of criminals disguise their criminal behaviour under the guise of a persecuted religion so people dont investigate or suspect them they think the jews are harmless.

In effect I look at the modern jew as the commander orc in LOTR. He is crippled (genetic degeneracy) but is wise enough to lead an army of degnerate leftists who used to be elves (brainwashed normies) into attacking Gondor (Germany or anyone who has right wing beliefs) while being commanded himself by the Witchking (Satanic pedophile occult Rothchild family)

The jews are just a creation of Sauron (Devil or antichrist) they are his slaves or servants and he doesnt really give a fuck about them as long as they get the job done.

If you look at LOTR or the Matrix its the same story you have a slave system all the way up where you have agents or Nazgul serving as slaves to the devil or demiurge or Sauron who is attempting to remove the last vestiges of freedom and resistence to his power while his ultimate goal is to enslave everyone to his will.

Analyzing the jews is almost worthless because its like trying to analyze the behaviour of the agents of the matrix while the architect is the one pulling the strings. Right now they are just the most efficient servants of the powerstructure at that level of control. Yes the Jews are a problem but they arent the source of the problem.

Lets say you were part of a power system and indoctrinated into it since birth via all sorts of methods from genetics to religion to circumcision all barraging the mind to form a twisted world view but you also have power in this world and you gain that power from playing your jewy tricks given to you by your satanic masters who secretly control you. Would you give up that power or be honest knowing your victims would likely kill you or make you give your money back? Do you think other members of your tribe would let you leave that power system because you had a change of heart?

From a meta perspective can we attack the Nazgul while ignoring the commander orc? Can we get to the architect while ignoring the agents. Notice in the matrix that the agents cant even really die they just respawn and its best to avoid confrontation with them since they have all the power in the matrix.

Its a self perpetuating system and the only way to beat it is to cut the head off the snake. Notice they attack Mordor as a distraction to kill Sauron. In Star Wars the battle only really ends when Palpatine is killed and the Imperial forces lose focus.

Learning about the Jews is like focusing on Imperial officers when you should be learning about the religion of Darth Vader and Palpatine. Notice Vader is a mindcontrolled cyborg with magic powers.

>> No.18679088

>>18678872
I don't believe the devil exists. If God is the only creator and he created everything out of the nothing but his own will, then nothing can go against his will (because all they are is his will). Evil exists so that we can struggle, because the Creator values struggle.

If you want to know more about these things then post your discord and I will tell you

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>>18673128
>Real communism has never been tried

>> No.18679973

>>18678872
All of this would make some sense, if Asia didn't exist.
Did you know that today, there are around 900 US billionaires (many of them being jews), and 1200 Chinese billionaires (almost none of them being jews).
All of asia is partaking in Capital accumulation, commodity, money, finance, financial speculation. Asia do not need the jews to corrupt them. They play this game willingly.
There is nobody in control, young virgin.
The one in control is the collective unconscious, which validate this commodity world, again and again.
I would renounce this commodity world. Right now. Even if it meant forsaking most of the material comfort i have. I know most people won't want to do it, yet.

>> No.18680463

>>18674758
and how is this a bad thing?

>> No.18680539

>>18672787
"Every Jew can find in the history of his own family and of his ancestors a long record of instances of the greatest coolness and perseverance amid difficulties and dreadful situations, an artful cunning in fighting with misfortune and hazard. And above all it is their bravery under the cloak of wretched submission, their heroic spernere se sperni that surpasses the virtues of all the saints. People wished to make them contemptible by treating them contemptibly for nearly twenty centuries, and refusing them access to all honourable positions and dignities, and by pushing them further down into the meaner trades—and under this process indeed they have not become any cleaner. But contemptible? They have never ceased for a moment from believing themselves qualified for the very highest functions, nor have the virtues of the suffering ever ceased to adorn them. <...> Now, however, that they unavoidably inter-marry more and more year after year with the noblest blood of Europe, they will soon have a considerable heritage of good intellectual and physical manners, so that in another hundred years they will have a sufficiently noble aspect not to render themselves, as masters, ridiculous to those whom they will have subdued. And this is important! and therefore a settlement of the question is still premature. They themselves know very well that the conquest of Europe or any act of violence is not to be thought of; but they also know that some day or other Europe may, like a ripe fruit, fall into their hands, if they do not clutch at it too eagerly. In the meantime, it is necessary for them to distinguish themselves in all departments of European distinction and to stand in the front rank: until they shall have advanced so far as to determine themselves what distinction shall mean. Then they will be called the pioneers and guides of the Europeans whose modesty they will no longer offend. And then where shall an outlet be found for this abundant wealth of great impressions accumulated during such an extended period and representing Jewish history for every Jewish family, this wealth of passions, virtues, resolutions, resignations, struggles, and conquests of all kinds—where can it find an outlet but in great intellectual men and works! On the day when the Jews will be able to exhibit to us as their own work such jewels and golden vessels as no European nation, with its shorter and less profound experience, can or could produce, when Israel shall have changed its eternal vengeance into an eternal benediction for Europe: then that seventh day will once more appear when old Jehovah may rejoice in Himself, in His creation, in His chosen people—and all, all of us, will rejoice with Him!" (Nietzsche, Dawn, 205)

>> No.18680785

>>18680539
It's huckstering and money which make the jews, retard.
Truly the most overatted "philisopher".
It's not a coincidence if he is the most popular philisopher on amazon america.
https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Good-Evil-Friedrich-Nietzsche-ebook/dp/B096FZZFR8/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1MPMOPMC9CY0A&dchild=1&keywords=friedrich+nietzsche&qid=1626702151&sprefix=friedrich+ni%2Caps%2C342&sr=8-1

2400 ratings for this brainlet.
Now let's try Hegel:
https://www.amazon.com/Phenomenology-Spirit-G-W-Hegel/dp/0198245971/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=hegel&qid=1626702227&sr=8-1

380 for the phenomenology of Spirit.

NIetzche is le reddit philosopher. Ultimate pseuds who think himself smart, but is just, and only, a useless whiner.

>> No.18681963

>>18675773
He might have been a Hegelian but I don't think he was ever Marxist. Gentile that is.