/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.18662052]

Any book that'll help me cope with this? This unironically fills me up with existential dread.

Non Americans might not understand, but here we all actually live under the assumption that America is the biggest, the largest, the meanest, at all times.

This fills me up with existential dread. America compared to Russia is like a European statelet compared to America. Holy fuck. How do I cope

[Anonymous No.18662066]

>/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.18662080]

>>18662052
Its only double the size because the closer you are to the poles the bigger your country looks.

[Anonymous No.18662081]

>>18662066
yeah i'm asking for a book

[Anonymous No.18662091]

Isn't most of Russia, like most of Canada, just an uninhabited frozen wasteland?

[Anonymous No.18662101]

>>18662091
Yeah of course. 60% of population lives in the comparatively tiny European part.

[Anonymous No.18662118]

>>18662081
>but i asked for a book

[Anonymous No.18662119]

>>18662080
You can literally drive around America including Alaska, within Russia

[Anonymous No.18662123]

>>18662052
USA has a much bigger population and an enormous agricultural and industrial base. It will at least be a regional power for the forseeable future. America won't have a sudden collapse of power like the European colonial powers, only a slow descent. Russia is not some sleeping giant powerhouse, it is weak in its own ways. China on the other hand has the potential to dominate the world.

[Anonymous No.18662127]

>>18662101
75%*

a bit below the population of Canada lives in the Asian part of Russia (which I would say is all of Russia but you know guys)

[Anonymous No.18662130]

>>18662091
Yes, and most of that frozen wasteland might not even be Russian by the end of this century.

[Anonymous No.18662134]

>>18662130
What did you mean by this?

[Anonymous No.18662136]

Why would you remove Alaska? That doesn’t even make sense.

[Anonymous No.18662138]

>>18662134
He meant the Chinese will retake the far east and possibly most of Siberia

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.18662150]

Geography gives you ED?

>>18662123
China has a much bigger population. More ED.
Yeah. The US shouldn’t be a super power any ore. It completely drops the ball. (Well, you know me. No state should be a “super power” or exist)

[Anonymous No.18662152]

>>18662101
75%*

a bit below the population of Canada lives in the Asian part of Russia (which I would say is all of Russia but you know guys)

[Anonymous No.18662158]

>>18662136
No one lives in Alaska.

[Anonymous No.18662162]

>>18662134
Not him but China is economically colonizing the Russian far east. Their birth rates are shit and people are leaving. Han Chinese are flooding in and doing the natural resource work. Russia has a pretty rapidly aging and shrinking population and has not modernized its economy.

Eventually those Han will become a majority in many areas and can begin to advocate for independence with Chinese support. China wouldn't invade or annex it, but they could certainly break off large sections and have them act as quasi-indepedent Chinese vassals.

That and they buy up all the natural resources and their people do all the labor so it is defacto Chinese fiefdoms in Russia. Sort of how the Ottomans technically held Egypt long after the UK ruled in practice.

China is also expanding pretty effectively into parts of the subcontinent and even more in Africa.

[Anonymous No.18662164]

>>18662138
That is a stupid idea. Russia still has a massive amount of nukes and the far east of Russia is pretty much useless. Even if China wanted to use the eastern part of Russia to keep Alaska in check, they could just ask Russia to set up a military base which they would likely accept because they are allies.

[Anonymous No.18662170]

>>18662158
No one lives in Siberia too though

[Anonymous No.18662180]

>>18662150
>Yeah. The US shouldn’t be a super power any more. It completely drops the ball.
Why? If the USA is no longer a superpower then the only major one thats left is China.

[Anonymous No.18662182]

>>18662164
China and Russia aren't allies. They do anti-US talking points together for the media, they don't have anything approaching a military alliance.

The Far East is resource rich and will become more appealing with global warming.

Nuclear war is suicide. Russia trying to win a conventional war with China is suicide. There are plenty of ways s riding super power can undermine a decaying regional power and get their way, especially if most of the population in the area are Han loyal to China.

[Anonymous No.18662188]

>>18662164
It’s more about resources and access to waters than missile defense. In the 19th century, China leased much of the land and ports around Manchuria to the Russians (led to the Russo-Japanese war). I wouldn’t be surprised to see something similar in the Far East.

[Anonymous No.18662190]

>>18662123
>>18662150
China is a paper tiger.
I'd argue that if the US goes, China will collapse with it, due to the economies being tied together

[Anonymous No.18662195]

>>18662052
Kapusczinski - Imperium

[Anonymous No.18662199]

>>18662164
>Implying Russian officials buy the official nationalism and don't routinely fuck their own country over for their own enrichment.
If, more like when, Chins takes the Far East, bribes will lead the way.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!bGBGaUpA8kS No.18662200]

>>18662180
We should have allied with Russia and South America etc. but oh no, we had to make enemies of the whole world.
No problem really. China isn’t into invasions and carpet bombing.
Hang the oligarchs and spymasters

[Anonymous No.18662201]

>>18662170
Yeah but its physically attached to the rest of Russia, most people don't even think of Alaska at all despite its size when thinking about America

[Anonymous No.18662218]

>>18662164
Yeah physical invasions and landgrabs are definitely a thing of the past after the atomic age/MAD, it will be a soft economic takeover just like in Canada, Australia, much of Africa etc

[Anonymous No.18662249]

>>18662218
The maps are evolving as we speak: EU enlargement, Russian annexation of Crimea, fracturing of African countries e.g. Sudan, potentially Libya or Ethiopia, North Korea might not outlast the current Kim, etc. MAD deters one-to-one war between the most powerful countries, not history.

[Anonymous No.18662263]

Any book that'll help me cope with this? This unironically fills me up with existential dread.

Non Americans might not understand, but here we all actually live under the assumption that America is the biggest, the largest, the meanest, at all times.

This fills me up with existential dread. America compared to Australia is like Australia compared to Australia. Holy fuck. How do I cope

[Anonymous No.18662264]

>>18662052
your image is wrong though

[Anonymous No.18662272]

>>18662190
>China is a paper tiger.
They are using more concrete for infrastructure alone than the total use of the rest of the world combined.
They are not a paper tiger.
The west ignoring infrastructure is what will lose us the top spot, and yet us not investing enough in infrastructure is nothing but a symptom of the disease infecting us.

[Anonymous No.18662289]

>>18662272
Have you seen Chinese construction?
It's all a total scam. And the fact you ignore those birthrates is simultaneously hilarious and sad

[Anonymous No.18662305]

>>18662289
Very little is fake and weak construction.
You should visit Shanghai and Dubai.
Shanghai is modern and with good construction.
Dubai is modern but with weak construction not built to last.

[Anonymous No.18662329]

>>18662305
Yeah, I'm not buying it for a second.
The façade only works as long as the West keeps pumping money into that backwater shithole.
That's why I say that once the US goes, the largest economic partner with China to date, China is fucked. Hell China is fucked as it is right now, with excessive pollution, a rapidly aging population, poor military and corruption levels so obscene it would make for an entertaining vaudeville act

[Anonymous No.18662334]

https://thetruesize.com

[Anonymous No.18662337]

>>18662329
That's sounds like cope and if you think that .webm represents China then I once again urge you to visit Shanghai and Dubai.

[Anonymous No.18662363]

>>18662337
>Completely ignores other issues mentioned
>RHAT VIDEO IS DA COPRU
Sure thing.
I don't need to go to those shitholes. I have neighbors whoever escaped from China, and they all tell the same story; it's a despotic shithole

[Anonymous No.18662376]

>>18662329
Aging and shrinking population is only a problem in Western countries.

[Anonymous No.18662377]

>>18662052
You see what fits into Russia and how much space there still is left? ?Ha ha ha ha ha! Everything fits into Russia!

[Anonymous No.18662389]

>>18662376
China has a birthrate lower then Best Korea

[Anonymous No.18662399]

>>18662389
China will open the floodgates to mass immigration sooner or later. There's a reason they are in Africa. They need people from there to move to China eventually to balance out the population losses.

[Anonymous No.18662404]

>>18662363
>Completely ignores other issues mentioned
>Excessive pollution
Not as bad as you're trying to make it sound
>rapidly aging population
Same as EU (the refugees are an economic drain so they make the situation worse) and Japan is doing fine with their aging population. Same as China.
>poor military
Yes, but rapidly modernizing and they are not as imperialistic as America do it doesn't matter as long as they can defend themselves.
>corruption
It's rapidly decreasing in China but the opposite is happening in the west.
High level corruption has been pretty much accepted in the west
I guess PM bribes for new laws and construction projects are ok as long as you can't bribe the police to ignore you speeding ticket?

[Anonymous No.18662647]

>>18662404
This is just sad. China has a bigger spiritual problem anyway. The effect of the one child policy has created the most imbalanced society in existence. It lead to one large push of frenetic youthful activity but no incentive to preserve.

[Anonymous No.18662659]

>>18662647
>but no incentive to preserve.
What are your Western nations preserving, exactly.

[Anonymous No.18662849]

>>18662399
That isn't a good thing.
Plus, who the fuck would want to live in China?
>>18662404
Bruh. All this cope and no real answers

[Anonymous No.18662886]

>>18662052
>Any book that'll help me cope with this?
Read Dostoyevskiy and accept the victory of Russian God over nihilism, this way you don't have to cope with it and will become our brother.

[Anonymous No.18662895]

>>18662052
what a retarded thread
are you 11 years old?

[Anonymous No.18662896]

>>18662849
>Plus, who the fuck would want to live in China?
China is a much nicer place to live than much of Africa. Africa will be over populated anyway, they'd be happy to move to China.

[Anonymous No.18662901]

>>18662896
>China is a much nicer place to live than much of Africa.

[Anonymous No.18662928]

>>18662272
>china can't be a paper tiger because they uses concrete which is a hard material
What the fuck are you smoking, anon

[Anonymous No.18662941]

>>18662389
I just said it’s only a problem in Western countries.

[Anonymous No.18662948]

>>18662901
I would love to hear your logic on why I am wrong.

[Anonymous No.18662965]

>>18662150
Erectile Dysfunction? I mean yeah I guess, larger population more ED.

[Anonymous No.18662968]

>>18662052
England is the size of Alabama and they basically ruled the world for a bit. Land mass doesn't matter at all. And anyway having any allegiance to or pride in your country is for retards. The people running things don't give a shit about you, and never have or will.

[Anonymous No.18662994]

>>18662305
Strong construction, weak construction... The cost of upkeep for concrete structures ain't cheap. And China is sitting there with empty cities.

[Anonymous No.18663013]

>>18662941
See >>18662190
>>18662948
Well, it's a backwater authoritarian dictatorship ran by a bunch of incompetent bugmen, with some of the worst pollution on planet Earth, combined with a terrible quality of life, no freedom and an society predicated on fear due to said authoritarian government's constant surveillance and use of secret police.
Need I continue?

[Anonymous No.18663017]

>>18662399
They will not. Unfortunately for you, mass immigration is Western only.

[Anonymous No.18663022]

>>18662052
>as if size and power/wealth have any direct correlation

[Anonymous No.18663045]

>>18663017
They will or they will fade away due to population issues.

>>18663013
I don't deny China is a place which lacks much of the freedom we enjoy in the West, but they are not incompetent. In the past twenty years they have had the largest jump in living standards in human history. They have the largest or second-largest economy on Earth, are a superpower, and they are literally the opposite of a backwater. I think your dislike of the Chinese political system is coloring your view of their strength. If I was a Ethiopian or Ghanaian, I may very well see moving to China as a better plan than sticking around in my nation.

[Anonymous No.18663054]

>>18663045
>They will or they will fade away due to population issues.
And those are?

[Anonymous No.18663074]

>>18663045
>but they are not incompetent.
Anon, I...
What is the One Child Policy?

[Anonymous No.18663097]

>>18663054
You cannot maintain a manufacturing or consumer based economy with a shrinking population. Sooner or later you run into Japan-style stagnation. "Green line must go up" is a bit of a meme, but if China wants to become the hegemon, then yes their green line will need to go up for the foreseeable future. Mass immigration, most likely from Africa, is the only way to do that. It will be interesting to see how a pseudo-ethnostate deals with mass immigration, but it is inevitable if China wants to stay strong.

>>18663074
I'll give you that one, fine. But that doesn't outweigh how powerful they have become.

[Anonymous No.18663125]

>>18663097
It has crippled them to the point where they are expected to have a demographic collapse.
Right now the ratio of boys to girls is 15 to 1.
Do I even need to mention the Great Leap forward? Or the territorial expansion that has made China enemies throughout South East Asia? Or the recent famines caused by excessive flooding?
China is a fucking joke

[Anonymous No.18663135]

>>18663045
>Clueless without any knowledge of what his on about
Many such cases

[Anonymous No.18663172]

>>18662052
I don't have a concrete book recommendation, but maybe you can look for a book about the extend of the american empire.
I watch these youtube videos from this vox dropout about it and I think they're supposed to make you feel guilty, but all I feel is pride.

[Anonymous No.18663184]

are you an idiot, op?
how is that scary. check actual sizes without mercator distortion

>>18662201
> most people don't even think of Alaska

that's completely irrelevant. Alaska adds to american empire, resources, economy and power like any other state. it's not in any way detached in a political sense.

The USA total size is basically same as USSR and in a much more strategic position too

I could also include US territorial water arising from holding tiny Atolls in the pacific for dropping bombs on. and places like phillipines which was part of a traditional "American empire" and then there are places with military/naval bases

[Anonymous No.18663196]

>Ohno muh scary russians

fuck off MSNBC

[Anonymous No.18663204]

>>18662052
It's ok, they're like half the size of Africa so clearly they are outclassed.

[Anonymous No.18663208]

[Anonymous No.18663212]

>>18662052

What if they unite!

[Anonymous No.18663215]

>>18663184
That's not even including Canada as defacto US vassals.

[Anonymous No.18663383]

>>18662190
China is shifting away from economic dependence. The actual reason they stopped importing huge amounts of recyclable waste from other countries is because they now have the economy to buy and those ships are going back filled with goods to sell on their markets. They only bought all that recyclable material from other countries because otherwise most of those ships which took goods to the US and elsewhere would have gone back empty. They are also decreasing their dependency on the US for staples like basedbeans, Brazil is a major source for them now.

[Anonymous No.18663425]

>>18663383
China's main source of income is export of good to the West, specifically the United States.
If the US goes, China would lose it's biggest, and most irreplaceable cash cow.
As a result, China will always play second to the United States and the West

[Anonymous No.18663437]

Fuck Americans, fuck the Anglo world. I hope something happens to your populations.

[Anonymous No.18663448]

>>18663437
您已经失去了社会信用评分。 为你的过犯忏悔或被放回血汗工厂

[Anonymous No.18663458]

>>18662052
>without alaska and hawaii
Lol cope

[Anonymous No.18663483]

>>18663448
I'm not even a chink but at this point I hope the BTFO the US out of existence, although it won't happen and chinks are still too retarded to notice they ought to stop copying Amerifat's manners and lifestyle.

[Anonymous No.18663492]

>>18663425
As I said, they are shifting away from that. There is a reason you are seeing made in Indonesia, India, Korea, etc more and more these days, China is starting to produce for their own market and the US has started looking elsewhere for manufacturing. Even if they were not shifting towards producing for their own markets, everyone knows the fallout from the 1 child policy is coming and that China will have a major drop in output.

>>18663458
Even with Alaska and Hawaii there is still room for a second lower 48 in Russia, they have like 3 million more square miles than the US.

[Anonymous No.18663516]

>>18663448
>血汗工厂
Didn't know this word before. I like it.

[Anonymous No.18663876]

>>18663492
The US still encompasses a major exporter and trade partner.
China can try, but no market is as juicy as the United States of Israel.

[Anonymous No.18663892]

>>18662052
Kneel to your new Asiatic masters.

[Anonymous No.18663896]

>>18662263
kek

[Anonymous No.18663906]

>>18662052
a very large chunk of Russia is a barren, frozen wasteland

[Anonymous No.18663928]

>>18663892
China is fucked beyond all belief.
Russia? They are serval decades and major reforms away from their former glory.
So it is unlikely

[Anonymous No.18663929]

>>18662337
Building are constantly collapsing in China, including Shanghai. They are rushed and shittily constructed.

[Anonymous No.18663936]

>>18663928
>>18663929
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[Anonymous No.18663954]

>>18663876
>China can try
They don't have a choice. There is good reason Chinese investors are putting their money into foreign markets and why many US companies are moving some or all of their manufacturing out of China. Stop looking at historic trends and look at what is coming and what is happening.

[Anonymous No.18664555]

>>18663954
I'm telling you, if the US goes tits up China goes with it, because it won't have the money to cover for it's problems anymore.

[Anonymous No.18664564]

>>18663936
Lel, americans blown the fuck out. Dont forget the patriot act and indefinite detention without trial.

[Anonymous No.18664570]

>>18663936

[Anonymous No.18664594]

>>18662305
20 social credits have been deposited into your account.

[Anonymous No.18664600]

>>18662263
>no melbourne
>no adelaide
Now this is my kind of Australia.

[Anonymous No.18664609]

>>18664600
Fucking kek

[Anonymous No.18664793]

>>18664555
Perhaps if the US had a complete and unexpected shutdown and closing of all boarders, or just ceased to exist. Anything severe enough to cause us to just stop buying from China completely would also cause us to cease exporting, China is the only country who could fill that gap, it would be a hiccup for them. But anything that could cause such a situation would be the real issue, this would take something like WWIII to happen.

To get back to reality, look what happened when the recession hit, US turned a blind eye to China's dumping of steel and other metals which helped keep much of the US industry afloat and many employed.

[Anonymous No.18664867]

>>18664793
You don't seem to understand, so let me lay it out for you nice and slowly:
The US is the linchpin to the global economy, because of it's navy, and the fact that it's currency is the most powerful in terms of actual spending power.
When the US goes, or even if it's navy is no longer able to protect and control global shipping, it's game over for the global economy, and especially China, who's entire economy rests on export and manufacturing.
Until China gets a blue water navy that could match the US's, which if they tried would mean certain war, then the Chinese would be set to become a global superpower.
Until then, They. Are. Fucked.

[Anonymous No.18664870]

>>18663097
>You cannot maintain a manufacturing or consumer based economy with a shrinking population.
You actually can but you don’t even need to.

[Anonymous No.18664880]

>>18662052
Russia is 1/3 the US population, and most of Russia is cold as fuck.

[Anonymous No.18664934]

>>18664867
You dont seem to understand that anything that could cause such a situation would itself be a bigger problem then the lose of the US economy and that in a global economy you can not look at economies in isolation. You are also ignoring everything going on in the world economy and China and assuming it is all going to stay the same, it is not and it is already changing, China is shifting away from being an export based economy, their imports are increasing and factories are changing over to serve their domestic market.

[Anonymous No.18664952]

Australian here. I dont really care that my island is so much bigger than other nations. Like half of it is desert anyway.
As for Russia, well half of that is just a wasteland of snow.

[Anonymous No.18664980]

>>18664934
First off, work on your English.
Second off, even if China grew it's domestic market, it doesn't fix the wide variety of social and demographic issues currently being experienced, as well as is slowing encroaching into the middle income trap.
Right now is the time where China need to get it's shit together and step up and it has failed to do that. The window is closing shut by the day, and seeing the sorry state they are currently in it might be too late for the chinks

[Anonymous No.18665000]

>>18664980
>the sorry state they are currently in
Literally what are you talking about? They are one US economic/political crisis away from being the hegemon, and if they solve their demographic issues they are unbeatable. You seem to think China is in decline when it is breathing down the West's neck.

[Anonymous No.18665017]

>>18665000
China just came out of a famine and major pandemic you massive retard.
Not to mention the massive amounts of pollution, poor sanitation, extremely corrupt authoritarian government, and terrible working standards, among an long list of other things I can't remember off the top of my head.
The reason that China is even close to the West is that it is in sharp decline right now. Not to mention that China is little more then a Western manufacturing vassal