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18644529 No.18644529 [Reply] [Original]

Im scared bros.What if they break our will?

>> No.18644536

Who is they? Luckily no power on earth today is as evil as the one in 1984, I think there's no need to worry about a dystopian future like that anymore, humanity can't stoop that low

>> No.18644548

>if

>> No.18644554

>>18644536
t. Chinese-paid shill

>> No.18645049

>>18644536
Yes im glad rothschilds dont exist

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>>18644529
>they
Who now?

>> No.18645623
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>>18645049
underated

>> No.18645652

>>18644536
Not as evil or as competent. They are trying though, it's just a bit embarrassing.

>> No.18645661

>>18644529
This is still a shitty book stolen from superior Soviet writer, but our will is already broken thanks to places like 4chan.

>> No.18645666

the scariest thing about 1984 is that once ingsoc is established it's literally impossible to rectify, humanity is just doomed forever

>> No.18645678

This book honestly isn't prescient at all, it's dystopic vision is ironically too bleak to be compelling.

>> No.18645776

>>18644529
Why break one's will, when you could instead mold it into something you can easily control?

>> No.18645788

>>18645652
They are as Evil.
Competent? Oh fuck no.
And I take solace in this

>> No.18645797
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>>18644529
Am schizo, completely immune to their bullshit.

>> No.18646099

>>18645623
Where's this from?

>> No.18646110

>>18645788
more like take cope in this

>> No.18646570

>>18644529
Don't worry republicans will never get in position of power within the next 20 years, and they are the most likely people to do this kind of authoritarianism.

>> No.18646606

>>18644529
get in the pod

https://rumble.com/vcn735-the-dawn-of-the-planet-of-the-pod-people.html

>> No.18646620

>>18646110
How so?

>> No.18646640

>>18645661
are you talking about Zamyatin?

>> No.18646644

>>18645666
The appendix is literally written from a perspective where Ingsoc fell, so no you're just a woman.

>> No.18646647

>>18644536
Every bit as evil, actually.

Just not nearly as competent, thankfully.

>> No.18646650

>>18646606
I always wondered why they, as in the globohomo, want to go down this route.
A large reason behind their success was their catering to the bread and circus, by allowing the middle class to flourish. Doing that would fly directly in the face of all their work and put them in great jeopardy of collapse.
No amount of psycho indoctrination will stop a hungry person from trying to get a meal, and bug powder isn't going to cut it

>> No.18646659

>>18644536
I fear we live in Huxley's nightmare. Not Orwell's.

>> No.18646678

>>18646640
yes Yevgeny Zamyatin

>> No.18646707

>>18645661
>will is already broken thanks to places like 4chan.
I... don't have a quip to this. I tried to make one, but couldn't,, because I would be lying to myself.
When you come on to the internet you try and escape the real world. Here, you see it in all of it's horrific vitriol

>> No.18646709

>>18646659
It’s a mixture

>> No.18646930

>>18646709
Yes. Huxley's is more sustainable to operate, but needs the surveillance and often brute force of Orwell, due to inefficiencies with the system in place.
I can't wait for it to collapse. I'm sick of their shit wholeheartedly

>> No.18647047

>>18646930
>I can't wait for it to collapse.
anon...

>> No.18647075

>>18647047
What, do you think what's happing now is sustainable? Or even what they have planned is sustainable?
No. And that's what's infuriating about these people, is that they have the capacity to do tremendous things with the wealth and technology they posses, but would rather literally run the human race into the ground and doom it to either eternal mediocrity or outright extinction if it means that they have the ability to maintain that little bit extra power

>> No.18647105

>>18646930
A replacement is really important to have getting up and running.
Could also be a sort of utopian sub-genre

>> No.18647114

>>18647105
What, a civilization?

>> No.18647180

>>18647114
Waiting for it to collapse just leaves it open for the next authoritarian to swoop in. If the people are to ever get what they want, they’re going to have to start building it up now..

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>>18644529
The more men you've had, the more I love you.
Fucking britcucks even when you have a nice romance you have to ruin it

>> No.18647794

>>18644529
Orwell is a shit writer, his language is riddled with cliches and people who read 1984 and think it’s in any way reflective of the current system deserve to be lobotomised. It might’ve been relevant 50+ years ago but that’s no longer the case.

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>>18647794
Anyone who thinks the threat of totalitarianism has somehow evaporated is already lobotomized.

>> No.18647831

>>18647823
WTF. my computer literally shut down after saving this photo

>> No.18647866

>>18647823
>Orwell has a monopoly on what is or isn’t totalitarianism
Read more books.

>> No.18647901

>>18647720
It’s because they lived in a society that tried to keep girls living like perpetual chaste virgins until they inevitably got a loveless marriage to create kids to be indoctrinated (like Winston’s neighbour and also his own failed marriage).
It’s because she could rebel against the conditioning that he celebrated it - sexuality, sensuality, lust, even aggressive passion - all things lost in life’s love and diverted into the two minute hates and obsessive after work clubs, etc.
Context.

>> No.18647911

>>18647794
Ah, the de facto worm-brained response against Orwell. It’s not about the regime of BB and the secret police etc., but the way language, thought, expression and an independent sense of history are being undermined and contrived to remove the need for the monitoring and the propaganda.
I read Postman’s “Amusing ourselves to Death”, which claimed to demonstrate how Brave New World is more in keeping with the actual West, and while there could be elements of it like the obsession with entertainment, it’s ultimately rooted in a misreading of Orwell’s main point. BNW and 1984 are not contradictory - Mustapha Mond’s dialogue with John and O’Brien’s with Winston are saying the same thing about language about the past - only through God and Shakespeare for John and language and liberty for Winston - both meaning the same thing.
Only retards can’t see that Orwell was just as, if not more right than Huxley.

>> No.18647946

>>18646099
seconding this

>> No.18647987

>>18647911
nice

>> No.18648397

>>18646099
>>18647946
History of Central Banking and the Enslavement of Mankind

>> No.18648755

>if
People don't want to fight anymore. They lie to your face, you notice and you don't call their bullshit and keep voting for them. Embrace the tyranny of democracy.

>> No.18648756

>>18644529
mutts and bongs are already broken in

>> No.18648761

>>18644536
>Who is they?
I think this is where they got it wrong
it doesn't need to have a head, it's a system reaching its logical conclusion

>> No.18649078

>>18644548
This, lmao, op.

>> No.18649099
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18649099

Decentralization is really important to destabilizing the regime and robbing it of essential power. (i.e the proliferation of guns through 3D printing is the ender of the gun debate)

But centralization is more or less required in order to effectively replace it with something better. I think secession is more or less a cope.

How do we reconcile this?

>> No.18649102

>>18644529
They already have. Have a look at what you accept already and realise you lost years ago.

>> No.18649121

>>18649099
he looks better with spectacles

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>>18646570

>> No.18650131

>>18647901
Yes I understood the reasoning behind his attraction, it still doesn't get rid of the cuck undertones.

>> No.18650389

>>18644529
Daily reminder that 1984 was romance novel.