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>Made me bitter and frustrated about everything
>Made me felt empty inside
>Made me feel all alone and miserable all the time.
>Made me resent women and society
>Made me resent life itself
>Made me consume both Redpill and Bluepill at the same time. Which further lead me to participate in reality even though i knew its an illusion.


I fucking hate the guy who recommended me Schopenhauer, i swear if i find you one day i will rape your mother and piss in your pillow.

>> No.18632906

So you haven't read his metaphysics?

>> No.18632914
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>>18632898

>> No.18632920

>>18632898
Where do I start with him?

>> No.18632927

>>18632920

dont start at all, go out anon, have sex and consume onions. Try to fit in the real society otherwise you will be just like me.

>> No.18633198

Or just read Nietzsche's notes on Schopenhauer.
Schopenhauarian pessimism is nothing more than the cancer of german idealism.

>> No.18633661

>>18632920
If you already understand some Plato and Kant begin by The Will of nature or his main book, if you don't, start with his biography by Safranski.
>>18632898 He was bluepilled, victim of his era, in fields like Women and human rights. But, based on Safranski's biography, I think he was not a pussy, but a great, honest thinker instead. The theory of Will is the most accurate in terms of science/metaphysics.

>> No.18633708

>>18632898
Read Nietzsche, specifically the later works, and be purged of Schoep’s faggotry.

>> No.18634978

>>18632898
It's not that it's problematic to know his stuff; it is to the degree that you consider it spending your life over that is so wasteful for your health. He understood the nature of the world perfectly; but rather than living in it nonetheless, he shunned it. He developed theories that showed the meaninglessness of the world. But he went wrong somewhere along the road. Here's why.
For example, his unfavorable views towards women are incredibly true, and can be understood by anyone with a functional braincell but rather than accepting their nature and working with them towards a compromise, he rejected them altogether. By no means was he wrong in figuring out their logic and lifestyle, but he did shoot himself in the foot by going against his own nature.
The reason, anon, you feel sad after reading Schopenhauer is that you have figured out just how fucked the world truly is. But, now you can make the choice of living in the illusion regardless. If you do so, the fact that you made that decision yourself is precisely what is meaningful.
Go out there anon. You're not the only one who's disillusioned with society. Millions of other people are too.
Don't make the mistake he did.

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>>18632898
Take the Heidegger white pill.

>> No.18634989

>>18632898
You sound highly impressionable. Philosophy wasn't for you.

>> No.18634998

>>18632898
Read Huysmans for a novelistic acceptance and rejection of Shopey.

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>> No.18635030

>it made me feel x y and z

Too bad it didn't make you think

>> No.18635168

>>18632920
The Greeks

>> No.18635508

>>18632898
what are you talking about? I found him pretty comfy and reassuring in some way

>> No.18636258

>>18632898
>i swear if i find you one day i will rape your mother

Obviously, you being a stupid bastard has nothing to do with old schopy here, you where just born that way and let us all hope you continue to suffer.

>> No.18636483

>>18633198
>>18633708
In Schopenhauer as Educator Nietzsche praises Schopenhauer and says he might be a key to a new era in Germany. Schopenhauer is useful If you survive through his pessimism.

>> No.18636509

>>18632898
That just means you lack critical thinking and are unable to engage in a conversation with his ideas, and all that you're capable of is changing your opinions depending on whom you're reading at the moment. Schoppenhauer is not that difficult to defeat.

>> No.18636512

>>18632920
His essays, don't make the mistake of jumping into The World as Will and Representation as your entry into him.

>> No.18636516

>>18636483
Nietzsche later mocks Schoppenhauer, though, despite how strong of an impression he made on him in his youth. He still recognizes him as a thinker worth tackling, but he has little to none liking for his philosophy.

>> No.18636617

>>18632898
Time to start reading Eastern Philosophy. Schopenhauer read their texts but grossly misunderstood them resulting in the doom thought that he had.

>> No.18636663

>>18636516
>Neech shows just another reason as to why no one should pay him attention
Really helpful, thank you!

>> No.18636686

>>18636509
>Schoppenhauer is not that difficult to defeat

Schopenhauer remains undefeated to this day

>> No.18636691

>>18636617
He understood them just fine
OP don't fall for the annihilationism meme. Read Phaedo

>> No.18636727

>>18635030
Nice. Got em. Good job. Here. Have some karma.

>> No.18637000

>>18632898
>But he made me feel sad! :(
This isn't how you engage with a philosopher. Sounds like you should just stop reading philosophy and move on to something else. At any rate, Schopenhauer rescued me from one of the darkest moments in my life, taught me how to think properly, helped me shape my aesthetic taste, and led me towards my further philosophical and spiritual development. As far as German metaphysics is concerned, he remains singularly at the top. Even his """pessimism""", though excessive at times, helps one to detach oneself from worldly matters and concentrate on things truly valuable.

>> No.18637007

Don’t be sad. It’s just Maya bro

>> No.18637031

Schopenhauer is the worst but not only case of a German Philosopher lacking the insight not to base his world view on his mental illness.

>> No.18637654

>>18637000
How is Schopey's pessimism in any way too much. He draws in out of a metaphysical necessity—that's not something one can pull away from with pretty words and exhortations of self-worth. Also his aesthetics is just the general ready-made nonsense that everyone stupid enough to be an idealist gets to take as as a sop for their poor taste in metaphysics; the only worthwhile thing in it is the temporary displacing of the, necessarily painful, Will—a position which, whilst (heh) aesthetically pleasing, is also quite nonsensical.

Anyway, tell me your darkest moment anon; you're blatantly angling for a few questions there.

>> No.18638977

>>18634989
I see this line often & have never understood why it's bad. Honestly have way more respect for someone whose view changes easily from reading than the opposite. At least they take the subject matter seriously enough to allow themselves to be completely captured by it.

>> No.18639485

>>18632898
That's weird because I had almost the opposite reaction. Coming to terms with the pointlessness of existence helped me be at peace with life and enjoy little things and accomplishments without caring about the whole world. His ethics helped me sympathize with all of society whether I like them or not, and even more with animals. I never really had an issue with women so that didn't affect me. I'm glad I read Schopy.

>> No.18639518

>>18637654
All of these people are retards

>Those who have cited his influence include philosophers such as Friedrich Nietzsche[26] and Ludwig Wittgenstein,[27] scientists such as Erwin Schrödinger and Albert Einstein,[28] psychoanalysts such as Sigmund Freud[29] and Carl Jung, writers such as Leo Tolstoy,[30] Herman Melville,[31] Thomas Mann, Hermann Hesse,[32] Machado de Assis,[33] Jorge Luis Borges, Marcel Proust,[34] and Samuel Beckett[35] as well as composers such as Richard Wagner,[34] Johannes Brahms,[34] Arnold Schoenberg[34][36] and Gustav Mahler.[34]

>Influenced
Anjos, Assis, Bahnsen, Beckett, Bergson, Borges, Brahms, Brouwer, Campbell, Einstein[9], Fet, Cioran, Dilthey[10], Freud, Gray[11], Hardy, Hartmann, Hesse, Horkheimer, Huysmans, Jung, Reve, Kraus[12], Ludovici[13], Ligotti, Mahler, Mainländer, Majorana[14], Mann, Maupassant, Michelstaedter, Nietzsche, Proust, Rank, Reve, Rilke, Ryle[15], Santayana, Schlick[16], Shaw, Schoenberg, Schrödinger, Solovyov, Spengler, Tolstoy[17], Vaihinge,r Volkelt, Wagner, Weininger, Wittgenstein, Zapffe, Zola.

>> No.18639759

>>18632898
I started reading Schopenhauer when I was blackpilled and depressed and he cheered me up

Tbh haven't read much tho
Just essays and the intro Ze Vurld As Vill and Idea

>> No.18640475

>>18632898
Read "Why it is Always Better to Cease to Exist"

>> No.18640980

>>18632920
kek

>> No.18640986

>>18632898
You'd have ended up like that even without reading Schopenhauer, let's be serious.

>> No.18641598

>>18632927
People always say have sex like it was a thing that only depends of my will

>> No.18641844

The ultimate "dude weed" thinker

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>>18632898
You haven't seen shit yet.