/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.18622506]

>how many of pic related you read
>your opinions on the chart
>your opinions on the individual books

now post

[Anonymous No.18622522]

>8
>the chart is a self-contradiction and should be deleted
>no

[Anonymous No.18622536]

Only 3.

>society of the spectacle
First few chapters are great and written for laymen, general populace, but after that a good background in marxism is needed to understand what the author is saying. I really liked the first few chapters and plan to reread it after reading das kapital and other marxist books.

>infinite jest
Great. Essential reading for /lit/. I've given my opinion on IJ too much on /lit/ so I'm sick of discussing it, so I'll leave it at that.

>Capitalist Realism
Agree with a lot of what this essay had to say. Insightful explanations of the prevalence of apathy and hedonism, especially in the youth. Major criticisms I have would be finding Fisher's arguments against bureaucracy laughable and maybe some of his negatives about neoliberalism/postmodernist society (that is to say, neoliberalism is trash, but there are certain characteristics of neoliberal society that Fisher hates which I find acceptable, like lack of a "transcendental Law" or "general will."

[Anonymous No.18622540]

The lainpill absolutely mogs the blindpill.

[Anonymous No.18622545]

>>18622540
dilate

[Anonymous No.18622547]

>>18622540
what the blindpill advocates for is obvious from the name and chart alone. I have no idea what the lainpill is about. Can I get a tldr? Is the lainpill to be connected to the internet at all time 24/7 and to use the internet to its most extreme?

[Anonymous No.18622548]

>>18622545
Sneed

[Anonymous No.18622558]

>>18622547
Cybernetic immanence

[Anonymous No.18622563]

>>18622540
>anime based chart
>anything other than cringe

[Anonymous No.18622565]

>>18622540
>lainpill
>not taking the lelouchpill

[Anonymous No.18622566]

>>18622536
>but there are certain characteristics of neoliberal society that Fisher hates which I find acceptable, like lack of a "transcendental Law" or "general will."

Can you point where he talks about this? From your comment I agree with you, but I truly don’t remember him bemoaning the lack of such transcendental notions

[Anonymous No.18622611]

>>18622563
>anime based website
>anything other than based
>>18622565
What would that be a bunch of chess dudes and Machiavelli?

[Anonymous No.18622649]

>>18622566
p. 5: This page discusses how capitalism "presents itself as a shield protecting us from the perils posed by belief itself" by turning things that were once objects of belief (such as the Bible let's say) into artifacts that are only good for aesthetics and spectatorship nowadays. There seems to be some mixed feelings from Fisher here: he agrees that some of those artifacts of past fanaticisms / religions have no place in modern society but that some forms of fanaticisms / religions do and could help elevate us. It seems mostly that Fisher is saying that capitalism ONLY does this in order to make the general masses apathetic, as to not rise up.

p. 6: "When [capitalism] actually arrives, it brings with it a massive desacralization of culture. It is a system which is no longer governed by transcendental law; on the contrary it dismantles such codes, only to re-install them on an ad-hoc basis. The limits of capitalism are not fixed by fiat, but defined (and re-defined) pragmatically and improvisationally." This is more a descriptive section but I'm taking it, considering the other three examples listed here, to mean that Fisher sees this desacralization as a bad thing. He's an advocate for a transcendental law unifying and/motivating the masses, as well as a transcendental law/general will casting a shadow over capitalism, see the very next quote:

p. 77: "...the goal of the new left should be not to take over the state but to subordinate the state to the general will."

p. 77: "The 'methodological individualism' of the capitalist realist worldview presupposes the philosophy of Max Stirner...in that it regards notions such as the public as 'spooks', phantom abstractions devoid of content. All that is real is the individual. The symptoms of the failures of this worldview are everywhere -- in a disintegrated social sphere in which teenagers shooting each other has become commonplace, in which hospitals incubate aggressive superbugs -- what is required is that effect be connected to structural cause. Against the postmodernist suspicion of grand narratives, we need to reassert that, far from being isolated, contingent problems, these are all the effects of a single systemic cause: Capital."

[Anonymous No.18623101]

>>18622506
What a shit chart, makes little sense. At least the embarrassing explanation is gone from the bottom, not that this improves the chart any.