/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.18621412]

>race realist or 'there are objectively superior populations'
>also sees stereotypes as 'pattern recognition'
>the Leftist loves Power and that's why he rises through the ranks.
> 'So is the Leftist objectively superior?'
>'Well no, he just has no scruples and resides in a system that allows and encourages defection'
> 'Is it the Jews?'
>'No. It's a lot of Jews but its not The Jews'

Is this a correct characterization of Yarvin's view with respect to the JQ?

[Anonymous No.18621419]

>>18621412
Died too young, there's some stepped on used panties out there anons be safe

[Anonymous No.18621426]

>>18621419
I want Yarvin to Eiffel me in a sundress

[Anonymous No.18621440]

He says the new state will be a Jew state, for the same reason it'll be a Brahmin state.

[Anonymous No.18621442]

>>18621426
Yarvin and who else

JVNMA

[Anonymous No.18621471]

>>18621412
In yarvins sociology you dont have conspiracies that meaningfully affect history, it's impersonal forces. The cathedral is spontaneously generated. So it doesnt matter what percentage of the elite are jewish to me because the sorting mechanism of power has necessarily nothing to do with ethnic mafias

[Anonymous No.18621472]

>>18621442
Hubby haha

[Anonymous No.18621474]

>>18621471
>to me
Meant to say 'to him'

[Anonymous No.18621501]

>>18621471
>So it doesnt matter what percentage of the elite are jewish

Thanks for letting me know about this, now there's no reason for me to read his crap.

[Anonymous No.18621523]

>>18621471
yeah. what i'm trying to get it as the contradiction that appears when he asserts implicitly that Jews are the superior peoples but that the sorting mechanism of power is not based on competence but on your alliance to Power itself. Some might take this as an indication that the Jews have developed a set of traits (verbal) that place them where power is despite the fact that they aren't the objectively superior population and thus in his eyes shouldn't be fit to rule.

[Anonymous No.18621534]

>>18621501
Moldbug is really meant for lolbertarian-progressive types who have never been exposed to right wing ideas. He's very good at speaking to that demographic. He does introduce some ideas though that I'm not sure make sense...idk I am unqualified really to discuss this stuff, I am a paranoid brainlet. I dont see how we can rule out the existence of elite conspiracies, I mean how would we know, by definition lol. They would control all our sources of information

[Anonymous No.18621548]

>>18621412
This guy's entire "ideology" is diverting the attention of right wing extremists away from jews. I picked this up the first 10 min of reading his garbage work. You guys really need to develop your jew sense if you can't pick this up

[Anonymous No.18621552]

>>18621426
can I please be yr toilet, miragonz?

[Anonymous No.18621555]

>>18621523
He does think it's based on competence, he thinks Harvard profs are genuinely brilliant people.

[Anonymous No.18621560]

>>18621412
So basically he’s right about everything?

[Anonymous No.18621568]

>>18621412
Yarvin is a Jew and he is perfectly fine with his own people being in power in his neocameralist state. He said this explicitly multiple times. He has also never endorsed race realism, he's just talked about it sometimes because it was popular in right wing internet circles when he was writing.

>>18621471
This. Nrx is similar to Marxism in its rejection of conspiracies and talk of larger structural and societal forces.

[Anonymous No.18621573]

Anybody who thinks there isn't a jewish cabal linking the multiple expressions of power and influence together when it needs to be done hasn't actually directly confronted it in their lives

[Anonymous No.18621585]

>>18621568
He most definitely did say he agreed with race realism or hbd, many times on UR. In one of those long meandering essays he even says that it's one of the 3 biggest delusions progressives have along with Keynesian economics and climate change

[Anonymous No.18621589]

>>18621585
>climate change isn't real
Into the trash he goes

[Anonymous No.18621594]

>>18621412
yarvin is merely coping with his inferiority and he tries to craft a worldview where he's both wronger by inferiors while simultaneously being superior himself. Probably one the people who pray for a civil war yet he'd be one of the first to get cleansed just like his buddies Heartiste and Costin
TLDR faggot

[Anonymous No.18621597]

>>18621589
Well 'anthropogenic global warming' is what he denied existing

[Anonymous No.18621601]

>>18621594
>wronger
wronged.
>might makes right
>but not when I lose

[Anonymous No.18621611]

>>18621585
As I recall he actively danced around the issue of endorsing what he called Human Neurological Uniformity (HNU) and just said progressives persecute it so they don't have to consider it. I don't think he ever explicitly said he believes the races have different average IQs due to genetics.

[Anonymous No.18621625]

>>18621555
so why do they defect? Are they just normies who care about things other than truth? I think ive seen him express this and it fits into his sociology

[Anonymous No.18621631]

>>18621611
He said it multiple times, every person in nrx took it as a basic fact of reality that the picture shown by IQ is roughly accurate and accounts for racial disparities

[Anonymous No.18621640]

>>18621631
How does he explain smart people (white americans) being absolute cuckolds while even smarter people (chinese) aren't, while dumber epople (arabs) also aren't?

[Anonymous No.18621644]

>>18621412
I've never read this but if alleged race realism can be summed up as
>there are objectively superior populations
then the name is misleading because this smells like bullshit. The closest proposition to this that I think one could even dream to defend rigorously would be
>there are objectively best adapted populations to x y and/or z environmental criteria

There is no premise for making conjectures of a universal superiority in regards to race. Being superior implies eminent, interdependent phenomena as grounds for claims of inferiority/superiority.

This would be to say that significant, consistent differences between races occur as superior adaptations in respect to their environment which is particular, not universal.
There is no uiniversally superior race.

If the claim being made by purported "race realists" is that a population is universally superior, this would require derivation a priori, and the very idea of "objective" is that it is the truth in relation to the object, and like I said race differences occur resultant of their particular, interdependent phenomena.

[Anonymous No.18621645]

>>18621568
>Nrx is similar to Marxism in its rejection of conspiracies and talk of larger structural and societal forces.
Neoreaction basically replaces "contradictions of capitalism" with "insecure power", it's total drivel.

[Anonymous No.18621652]

>>18621644
at the end of the day most race realism for Americans amounts to showing that blacks have lower average IQs so black representation in X being <=13% does not necessarily imply discrimination and non-compliance with Civil Rights law.

[Anonymous No.18621662]

>>18621640
Culture, memes. What do you think he meant by phrases like '115iq wasp-ashkenazi aristocracy'? What could that possibly mean to someone who doesnt believe in race realism of some kind

[Anonymous No.18621671]

>>18621412
From Wikipedia;
>Curtis Yarvin was born in 1973 to a highly educated, liberal, secular family[16] and is paternally Jewish.

That ought to explain his apparent hesitance to name the Jew.
He is one.

[Anonymous No.18621762]

>>18621671
my guess is he sees the enormous problem of the JQ clearly and wishes a new regime emerges non-violently before the anti-Semitism takes hold once again.

[Anonymous No.18622015]

>>18621474
If you're going to come here Curtis, do an AMA for your fans. I promise not to troll too much.

[Anonymous No.18622057]

Moldbug's entire position on the JQ is
>hey, guys, if we keep this up we're going to get Holocausted for real
So he offers the Goyim a world where on the one hand the Jew can never get Holocausted for real, but on the other hand the Goyim can actually have societies (his solution is smashing the world into many tiny fiefdoms; lacking central power the Jews can perform smalltime Jewry, but not largescale stuff like LGBT or whatever).

[Anonymous No.18622152]

>>18622057
Why not just move to Israel? I will never "get" the Jews.

[Anonymous No.18622167]

>>18622152
I'm not sure they get themselves. One book I found quite illuminating though was called The Penitent by Isaac Singer, it's about a secular worldly Jew who decides to become Orthodox and move to Israel after being disgusted by society and himself. Jewish people's religious feeling seems for many of them directly tied to a sense of belonging in their tribe. Obviously you have Jews with very different religious orientations than that but it was just interesting how Singer has his character describe the feeling.

[Anonymous No.18622246]

>>18621501
You will worship Satan’s chosen psychopaths or we will breed you with niggers (actually we will attempt to do this either way)

[Anonymous No.18622268]

>>18621523
This is great post. Non violent high verbal IQ psychopaths do extremely well manipulating other humans. If you were to let these people lead they would destroy everything, hence Clown World.

[Anonymous No.18622285]

>>18621625
Missed your post, yeah that is the feeling I get. I mean his whole shtick is that it's a religion and almost evryone is religious

[Anonymous No.18622298]

>>18622152
Because Israel only exists by virtue of America and Europe truckling down to it. Economically and militarily, yes, but it like most countries on the planet are dependent upon US agricultural exports to even have "an economy" at all (the only countries with net agricultural exports are the US, Canada, and the Netherlands; everyone else net-imports food from the US). If left alone, it's economy will collapse, it won't be able to continue irrigation schemes, the Palestinians will eventually rub the three braincells they have together, and the rest of the region will attack.

Israel is, and always was, a romantic idea for both Jew and Christian. It's not a real place, and in a sense never can be. This is the entire problem that Moldbug is dealing with: every second that the Jews are working towards keeping their empire going is a second that they're digging their own grave. They can't help themselves, they must subvert.

Moldbug wants to put the world in a position where they can subvert eternally, but never actually win, and thus never actually have to face consequences as a group.

[Anonymous No.18622305]

>>18622152
They evolved traits to exploit other people. They NEED a host population or total world domination where they can control everything. If you forced Jews to all live together they would jew each other to death and on some level they know this.

[Anonymous No.18622307]

>>18622298
This talk about jews necessarily subverting seems a bit cartoonish to me. Are we even sure who the actual elite are?

[Anonymous No.18622313]

>>18622307
Feel free to look up who runs and owns Blackrock, and who their spouses are.

[Anonymous No.18622328]

>>18622307
Learn2DoYourOwnResearch stop being willfully retarded and cucked

[Anonymous No.18622330]

>>18621412
>JQ
There's no "evil" to the Jews, they just have an objectively amazing culture with two unbeatable traits:
>Tradition of literacy and intellectualism
>Extreme in-group preference
It's not the Jews fault that say, the Blacks lack the first trait or Whites lack the second. If any culture/race copied these aspects of Jewish culture, over time they'd win too.

[Anonymous No.18622367]

Moldbug consciously avoids talking about HBD in depth, because he knows that 1) It's a one way ticket to marginalization in polite society, and he doesn't want to be relegated to the usual right-wing online backwaters, and 2) He'd be preaching to the choir anyway; he audience already takes this obvious truth for granted.

As for the JQ, he's quick to point out that Jews out-WASP'd the WASPs, and that's a sad tragedy. He talks more about it here: https://niccolo.substack.com/p/the-agrigento-interviews-curtis-moldbug

>>18622305
I mean, this is just silly. Jews living together won't Jew each other to death. I can't think of a single example where this has happened.

[Anonymous No.18622374]

>>18622313
Yeah if I were in power I'd make sure all that information was available with a simple google search

[Anonymous No.18622386]

>>18622313
I kind of doubt the story is just 'BlackRock controls everything'. I have a feeling a lot of stuff goes on behind the scenes that we proles simply dont know about

[Anonymous No.18622389]

>>18621442
>>18621552
me pls

[Anonymous No.18622429]

>moldbug: neocameralist patchwork realms
>yarvin: one man should rule everything
what happened?

[Anonymous No.18622466]

>>18621471

What is the point of declaring the US a monarchy, putting a very competent CEO as monarch and then having the CEO dismantle all the 1.000.000.000.000 useless government compartments that compose the US bureaucracy when the average american will still look like this:

[Anonymous No.18622505]

>>18622466

I mean. It would be good to have an US government without the weird trails of money that connect cocaine manufacturers in Colombia to CIA coup attempts in the Middle East or the espionage scandals that are always 10 times worse than what everybody expected even when what everybody was already the worst case scenario. But I don't think that the fact that the average american is a fat homossexual mexican who experiences severe high-fructose corn syrup withdrawal when he does not eat his morning Oreo Milkshake can be reversed by a monarch, as good as he may be.

[Anonymous No.18622525]

>>18621471
>it's impersonal forces.
Cliques are the farthest thing from impersonal

[Anonymous No.18622539]

>>18622525
The point I believe is that nobody has any real agency, nobody is steering the ship, as opposed to a single person or a small group deciding important things. In his model evryone is just kind of copying evryone else and trying to outdo each other or something like that.

[Anonymous No.18622706]

>>18622298
I doubt the US or Europe have any problem with Israel existing though. I'm not a huge fan of the Jews but I can see some merit in Israel existing if only to have them be elsewhere and thus not kvetching. It's not like they're going to say "Oh, Israel's treatment of the local Arabs is just so gosh-darn IMMORAL! We've got to cut them off!"

[Anonymous No.18622796]

>>18622429
Those two perspectives aren't incompatible (one ruler per patch), but I see neocameralism as more theoretical, whereas the goal of Gray Mirror is more practical. It's within the realm of possibility that we elect a President who remakes American politics like Lincoln or FDR did, and the result could be in line with Yarvin's vision for 21st century monarchy. Unqualified Reservations didn't quite expect the predicament we'd be in today, so it's not surprising that patchwork was ditched for a prescription where the USA retains cohesion as a unified political entity.

[Anonymous No.18622863]

>>18621597
Even worse. At least the normal 80 iq climate change deniers have some conviction. Pathetic loser this jew is

[Anonymous No.18622884]

>>18622863
If you seriously mistrust academia there is not a lot of reason to believe in climate change.

[Anonymous No.18623053]

Kys fags Moldbug is based. Nazis need to have their skulls caved in for being dumber than door knobs. Commies as well.

[Anonymous No.18623090]

>>18621412
The problem with writers who write in a way that's intended to be less legible (ie inviting Straussians to decode them) is we have to put up with all these bottom tier interpretations by retard level individuals reacting to what they imagine he means. Same problem as Nietzsche desu.

[Anonymous No.18623113]

Anyone else actually know and interact with jews IRL?

I’m not antisemitic but I really fucking hate how elitist they can be

[Anonymous No.18623207]

>>18623113
Jews are very nice to me. Anti-Semitism is bad.

[Anonymous No.18623222]

>>18623207
Antisemitism is bad if it makes you hate any random jew. That's just low iq sadism, the vast majority of jews are guilty of nothing serious at all. It's the same thing as thinking 'anglos' are evil, if you mean some tiny number of powerful people sure, if you want to genocide England then no, you are evil.

[Anonymous No.18623229]

>>18623113
As a poor but very well educated person I only feel resentment when they talk nonchalantly about their listless, rich life styles. This obviously happens with WASPS as well. I do often find that unlike WASPS most Jews come off as more eloquent and in possession of better verbal skills. I have many paternally Jewish friends and they all have their peculiarities but believe it or not the more full blooded a Jew is the more I notice the instinct theychave to verbally dominate all around them and hold contempt for those who challenge their superiority. I know it sounds far fetched but I just relaying a faint but noticable pattern.8ttan

[Anonymous No.18623251]

>>18623229
I've known many jews as well, mostly half-jews I guess, but the idea that they are somehow inherently evil really rubs me the wrong way. They are just people, they have their particular characteristics on average but many of those are positive alongside the negatives, like any other people.

The people who have destroyed our world, if they exist, because it's a question how exactly it has all progressed, whether systemic or coordinated, they are not representative of the average Jew, and the average Jew does not deserve to be attacked for it even slightly.

[Anonymous No.18623263]

>>18623229
Are you referring to their tendency to cut off, interrupt, talk over, and argue with each other? They don't consider that rude. It's just part of their culture.
>>18623222
If you acknowledge that Jewishness does not correlate with whatever problem you are upset about, then why would you call yourself an anti-Semite? Why call the people you dislike Jews, even though most of them are not? And why insist on the demographic issue, when, if you stopped and looked, you would find that the greatest defender of "Western civilization" was Leo Strauss?

[Anonymous No.18623276]

>>18623263
I am not an antisemite at all because I'm skeptic about who really is in charge. I just dont like shutting off the conversation about possible Jewish influence, believe me I have a nuanced appraisal of it all, but eternally hesitant, dont know where to find good info.

The main reason people like me fixate on Jews is because you get murdered for it in the press or real life so that kind of sends a signal. But that only means some powerful people want to shut you up, it doesnt confirm anything.

[Anonymous No.18623285]

>>18623090
Picrel

[Anonymous No.18623290]

>>18623276
Here's a good way out of this conundrum.
Make a list of all the statements, positions, and ideas that you know of that would get you blacklisted from the public arena. Do not restrict yourself to the usual ones, i.e. race and IQ. Think about what is not obvious, like being an earnest Puritan New Englander in the present day, or being anti-Irish and anti-Italian, or calling for the restoration of monarchical power in the United Kingdom, or calling for an understanding of religion that relies not on public opinion, but on the will of God as interpreted by its greatest thinkers.
Then see what silhouette emerges from that. Once you have produced a silhouette of the thing which bothers you, see how far back into the past you can trace it. As far as that endeavor goes, I recommend the work of Leo Strauss and Alasdair MacIntyre.

[Anonymous No.18623313]

>>18623290
They're all of the same genre though, the taboos. I've been through them. I know what people think is evil now, and I know that they are wrong, and I want only love for them.

I dont hate anyone at all, because I simply can't believe that anything that exists is truly forsaken. It kills me to imagine people eternally suffering, a time yes as we all are, but not eternally.

What we see in this world is just a medley of hurt and incomprehension mixed into the streams of God. It makes no sense to hate anything

[Anonymous No.18623995]

>>18622429
His analysis has always been his strongest competency.

[Anonymous No.18624069]

>>18622330
>There's no "evil" to the Jews

There absolutely is.
I'm not a hypocrite, I apply the same standard of judgement to any race of people, but Jews simply aren't "it".
They're the only race of people whose collective consciousness (highly pronounced attributes in every Jewish population worldwide) predetermines them to undermine the people amongst whom they live.
When a devout, unironic Christian preaches tolerance, peace, a union of the worldly masses, he does so out of gullible love, he does so because it's his actual - no hidden intent - imperative and ideal.

When a Jew preaches these things he may do it because he believes it... sure. But as any honest Jew will tell you, he also knows "why" he preaches it.
Because a society where everyone is "welcome" and there is no "core identity" is the only one in which the Jew feels safe. In reality though, it's the only one where Jews can conduct their business without being called out on it.
They preach detachment and universalism to their host, but act as a tightly knit group which favors their own over others.

And this is without actually talking about what the Jews have done and are currently doing. That's the real horror story.

>I mean, this is just silly. Jews living together won't Jew each other to death. I can't think of a single example where this has happened.
Israel. Literally their homeland. Even 60 years ago the old stock was complaining about how Russian Jews are trying to overtake everything. Orthodox jews are universally hated, especially after their Corona stunt where there was unironic talk from government officials to expell them. Conservative, religious Jews, mostly aligned with Netanyahu hate the liberal ones which have undermined state homogeneity and shill for Arabs. Don't let this last one throw you off, because it sounds like the left/right divide in the West.
It doesn't just "sound" like it - it is it!

>>18622374
In most cases it isn't, and when it is, it isn't highly pronounced.
Also, it's not like you can go out on any media platform and present said information as "da joos" without getting canceled.
There's several Wikipedia editors which have throughout the past couple of years edited thousands of articles so they no longer name the ethnic/religious origin of Jews.
Usually when the name is involved in some sort of scandal (Epstein for example).

[Anonymous No.18624124]

>>18622330
Looks like they do not.

[Anonymous No.18624131]

>>18621471
wow, that's convenient! it has nothing to do with us, just impersonal forces goyim!

[Anonymous No.18624172]

>>18624069
>When a devout, unironic Christian preaches tolerance, peace, a union of the worldly masses, he does so out of gullible love, he does so because it's his actual
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-justification
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attribution_bias
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introspection_illusion

No.

>predetermines them to undermine the people amongst whom they live.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_selection
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-group_and_out-group

You might consider yourself super-saint, but that ain't the case, fag. Humans are groupish. All groups compete.

>They preach detachment and universalism to their host, but
https://theupheaval.substack.com/p/are-we-in-a-500-year-religious-revolution
but the problem is with universalism itself. With self-contradictory impossible *Christian* values, imbecile.

[Anonymous No.18624312]

>>18623276
>Jewish influence
Just call them progressives man. You may notice that antisemites tend to pull that Voltaire quote quite iften when they are silenced for spilling their spaghetti but they never insinuate that blacks or even asians control everything even though they are also silenced for that, even more harshly. Because they're really just the living sterotype of the progressive's enemy

[Anonymous No.18624363]

>>18624172
>posts a bunch of general psychology related articles do disprove my claim about devout Christians

You think that Jews working for a Jewish NGO, bringing in refugees into your country have the same reasoning and goal as a Christian NGO doing the same?
You think there's no general nuance to these two at all?

You think that when Ben Shapiro demands more aid for Israel he does it because he's only thinking about all the American lives he's gonna save that way or whatever?

When jews in Hollywood and media talk about "racial diversity" in the industry, when they crap all over whites and push "muh racism", you think that they're completely ignorant to the fact that they're the ones who actually own or are absolutely overepresented in both?

And most whites fall for one or more of these specifically because unlike Jews they don't think as a group or about group survival.

>You might consider yourself super-saint, but that ain't the case, fag. Humans are groupish. All groups compete.

Nice deflection, but only Jews undermine their host nations by taking over academia, media, and foreign policy. Only Jews have managed to do this whilst being a tiny minority within said, and only because they exploited their hosts tolerance and lack of hostility.

Also, whites aren't "groupish" like other races, hence our demographic decline and replacement.
This is also why we're the only race which believes in "multiculturalism" and "racism", and why we're the only race which polices its own members into submissions lest they deny their own kin.

And all of the above mentioned is a product of Jewish influence and their stronghold over our propaganda machines.

>but the problem is with universalism itself. With self-contradictory impossible *Christian* values, imbecile.

Funny, because up until recently that wasn't the case.
It is in fact the decline of the classical interpretation of Christian doctrines, the advent of social liberalism, and the decline of Christianity itself, which has opened the floodgates to Jewish universalism.

I'm an atheist btw, I feel like you may have convinced yourself I'm a Christian.
And I'm gonna guess you're Jewish.

Your whole point seems to be "It's not just the Jews, everyone acts like this."

But that's simply not correct, although of course most population tend to their own rather than others of course.

I'm not claiming that Jews fighting for themselves is "evil" or whatever, it's only natural that they would, I understand that.

But I'm white... I don't give a shit about Jews.
I'm not gonna let Jews destroy us, I'm not gonna sit idly while they own our media, decide where we go to war, and work on brainwashing our children into racial self-hatred and destruction.

They only way for whites to survive is for Jews to perish.

[Anonymous No.18624469]

>>18624312
>Just call them progressives man

That's what I call the useful idiot whites which act as footsoldiers for the.

I call the rich whites which enable it race traitors, and the disgusting smallhats pulling the strings Jews.

You're intentionally oblivious as to whom owns your money flow, and as long as you're unwilling to understand that Jewish bankers are the only unified capitalist force, which operate like states within states and form an entirely seperate system of finance, you will never "understand" anything.

[Anonymous No.18624519]

>>18622307
>This talk about jews necessarily subverting seems a bit cartoonish to me.
I dont know your understanding of it but as i understand the idea, some people think that the behavior is rooted in their biology and they as a group are doing it subconsciously out of instinct because that is how they lived and survived as a group. So its basically a personality trait or something like that. You know how different people supposedly has different personality traits. I am not saying i believe this, but that is the theory summed up (not very good but you get the idea)

[Anonymous No.18624594]

>>18624519
>rooted in their biology

It doesn't have to be, it's already rooted in their oral tradition.

Even before the Holocaust, Jewish historical consciousness always revolved around persecution.
>muh Egyptians
>muh Romans
>muh Arabs
>muh Europeans

And they were oftenly persecuted, and they did in fact adapt their group survival strategy to said.
The problem is the following;
A) up until the last century they didn't have their own homeland (not in a long time anyways)
B) when you kick them out they always find a way back in, whether in decades or a century or two
C) they never simply "live" in their hosts homeland, they always try to rule

Now, you can imagine how much their ethnic consciousness has awoken after the holocaust.

[Anonymous No.18624704]

>>18624363
>whites aren't "groupish" like other races
That's because when you declare yourself an "individual" with universal "human rights", you do not become free and individualistic.
Pic related. Freedom from family and customs becomes servitude to Big Brother. Scientists replace church, teachers replace parents, etc. Family/community is like a firm - either is delivers, or it dissolves. And all the meaningful functions of family/community were subsumed by progress.
Whereas you had local community at arm's length (who actually cared about you) with whom you could negotiate and seek compromise, you have a government now (to whom you are but a small particle, one amongst the millions.)

You still remain groupish. But your "group" is now one huge universalist society, where you are rendered to be nothing but a wageslave.

>Jews working for a Jewish NGO,
https://bnarchives.yorku.ca/131/1/19880101rbn_some_aspects_of_aggregate_concentration_in_the_israeli_economy.pdf
Jewish corporations work only for the sake of capital accumulation, and as such fuck over everyone they can. Including ordinary Jews
>when Ben Shapiro demands more aid for Israel
Then he demands aid for a bureaucratical monstrosity that fucks ordinary Jews just as well.


>the decline of the classical interpretation of Christian doctrines
You can thank protestantism for that. Read Charles Taylor's "Sources of the Self". Calvinist morality spawned capitalism, because morality became to be perceived as something procedural (as in, regardless of outcome).

"while humans can do nothing to bring about reconciliation, ,the reconciled person feels the imperative need to repair the disorder of things, to put them right again in God's plan. <...> To the Calvinist, it seemed self-evident that the properly regenerate person would above all be appalled at the offence done to God in a sinful, disordered world; <...> Nothing can save those foreknown to damnation. But this is not the goal. The purpose is rather to combat a disorder which continuously stinks in God's nostrils. "
"By denying any special form of life as a privileged locus of the sacred, they were denying the very distinction between sacred and profane and hence affirming their interpenetration. The denial of a special status to the monk was also an affirmation of ordinary life as more than profane, as itself hallowed and in no way second class." (i.e. being a capitalist became a vocation, as long as you don't treat money as money, and do it just for the autistic process of accumulation)

>but only Jews undermine their host nations by taking over academia, media, and foreign policy
Academia is taken over by those, who have higher verbal IQ. Academia is part of bureaucracy - and it runs by its own logic (capitalist accumulation). Which runs, because some fucking autists started it, and everyone has forgotten why we are doing all of that in the first place.

[Anonymous No.18624709]

>>18624469
You'd have to be genuinely retarded to think that "capitalist finance" is developing progressivism and not the academia. But sure keep posting half assed infographs like an autist as if they mean anything

[Anonymous No.18624749]

>>18622374
Why bother? Most Americans love being ruled by Jews. They have people like you defending them (for free!) after all. They want to be adored and fawned over. What part of "Chosen People" did you not get? Why do you think pointing out who is in charge here is such a heinous crime? Why are you defending them?

Because by pointing out who and what rule us, I, the Anti-Semite, am implying that their rule is illegitimate. You want to curry favor with the system, so you must oppose this. But if I were talking about how great it is that these people ruled over us, you'd be drooling with glee to talk about how great it is that all of the people who steal from your pocket attend the same synagogue.

[Anonymous No.18624754]

>>18624363
>When jews in Hollywood and media talk about "racial diversity"
They talk about "racial diversity", because the audience pays for it. And audience pays for it, because they talk about it.
A vicious circle, democracy, Paradox of Unintended Consequences - not some fucking master-plan, dolt.

[Anonymous No.18625688]

>Um, well, um, you see, err...
>Jews are the natural aristocracy of America, but we're totally not responsible for anything bad. No, being an aristocrat doesn't confer responsibility. It's all these complex systems that are outside of our control; but I digress...
>My father's Rabbi thinks I just took the default Jewish survival strategy since the Chaldean invasion, renamed it "Clearpill", and sold it to gentiles as a new political theory. He just doesn't understand the genius of my elevated civic ontology; but I digress...
>The modern state would work so much better if it were run by a private for-profit corporation. No, that wasn't tried in the Belgian Congo and no it didn't go really badly. You're just too uneducated to comprehend my glorious vision; but I digress...
>Democracy is the worst thing that ever happened. It was all explained by Lord Farquaad Tarquin Montgomery de Sade Cholmondely-Warner, 4th Earl of Piddleminster in 1688, a freer time than ours. No, freedom is not incompatible with slavery, and no I'm not going to explain why. You'll have to figure it out for yourself; but I digress...
>Some say that I have taken hundreds of long winded blog posts to explain what the retards of /pol/ can explain in a single sentence. They're just blinded by the Cathedral to the enormous complexity of my theory; but I digress...
>Yes I have read Hans-Hermann Hoppe, and yes I do understand the difference between feudal and absolute monarchy. No, I'm not going to use the terms correctly and no it's not because I can't be bothered. There are super high IQ reasons beyond your feeble apprehension; but I digress...
>Operating systems were not build with peer-to-peer connection in mind. Naturally, the solution is to run an entire virtual machine inside your current operating system. No you can't just start again with a new kernel, and no it isn't because I want you to buy my cryptocurrency; but I digress...
>Instead of organizing in the real world, you should spend all your time writing 10,000 word essays. No, it's not because I like the sound of my own keyboard. It's called antipraxis - just ask my evil apprentice Nick Land; but I digress...

[Anonymous No.18625765]

>>18621412
The leftwing tactic is counterproductive in the long run, now only do they not reproduce, in the long run society will turn on them.

[Anonymous No.18625813]

>>18622466
that’s the limit of politics, you are talking about changing culture and he is talking about politics. it’s possible politics can change culture of course but only if the people are receptive to change. getting mad at fat gay people seems kind’ve weird though, are you a gymcel

[Anonymous No.18626481]

>>18622429
Moldy might have changes his stance somewhat over the years, I'm really not sure he's a bit esoteric and I admittedly haven't heavily read him but I think the basis still applies to something like this, which he outlined in one of his most recent writings:

Step 1.) Democractic Monarchy, a la FDR. AKA we need that Caesar to come. He outlined this is only possible when this monarch can unite both sides and be so popular it's impossible for him to lose re-election. Elected by the people.
Step 2.) Absolute Monarchy shedding the façade of Democracy completely and I assume this happening after the 2nd term is over. Monarchs I think might be shuffled out and installed by a board of executives.
Step 3.) Delegating power through secession and installing more and more monarchs who's power becomes further limited compared to ruling the entire country, and I believe at this point the board of executives might be morphed into the over-government he talks about that keeps the status quo by superior force but does not have any interest in imperial ambitions.

[Anonymous No.18626616]

>>18626481
that's what's happening right now

[Anonymous No.18626667]

>>18624704
>That's because when you declare yourself an "individual" with universal "human rights",
>when you declare yourself

Yeah, that's how that happened...
Our fate was decided after WW2, mainly by Jewish banks which at that point held both the US and UK governing bodies in their fists since those were in debt to them as they borrowed money for the "war effort".

It was decided then by those bankers that what occurred a couple years prior could never be allowed to happen again.
That's why, in the following couple of decades they undertook radical steps to normalise immigration, feminism, race-mixing, lower birthrates and undermine identity, to make sure the majority of our industries end up abroad, so we may not seize the means of production.

The immigration act of 65' (proposed and written by a Jew), second and third wave feminism (look up feminists by ethnicity on Wikipedia) the civil rights movement culminating a couple of years later (predominantly led and financed by Jews), the SPLC (at least 60% Jewish) the ADL, dozens and hundreds of civil right advocates, attorneys, and agencies. Studying them you quickly see the pattern.

>Jewish corporations work only for the sake of capital accumulation, and as such fuck over everyone they can. Including ordinary Jews
>Jewish corporations

Ah yes... That's why they flock together, from different states and countries even... and start companies and initialise businesses where they only appoint Jews to head positions...
If a Jew was only after money then why does he conspire with other Jews to attain it?
If he doesn't care about being Jewish, then why does he do things which favour Jews?

>Then he demands aid for a bureaucratical monstrosity that fucks ordinary Jews just as well
It doesn't...
Not the Jews he cares about anyways.

>You can thank protestantism for that
Christianity was alive and well long after protestantism, and its decline came from outside the churches.
The churches adapted to secular conditions and pressure, not the other way around.

>Academia is taken over by those, who have higher verbal IQ
Let's for a second assume the only reason why Jews are so influential in academia is verbal IQ.
That doesn't negate their "jewing", nor does it explain their anti-white and anti-muslim rhetoric, works, and ideologies.

They do that because they're Jewish.

[Anonymous No.18626706]

>>18626616
Yes, and Curtis is banking on creating a network of 'rogue elites' starting with his immediate circle. Thiel is a known associate of his, but there are even rumors that the CEOs of Cloudflare and Coinbase are partial to his writing. Who knows. He was described as '21st century Adam Weishaupt' by an interviewer recently and I can't help but feel the description is very accurate.

[Anonymous No.18626768]

>>18626706
>implying thiel won't make a 360 if something profitable comes along the way
also lol good luck having random millionaires on your side. Won't change anything

[Anonymous No.18626838]

>>18626768
Meh, by that logic nothing matters. People in power now weren't solely motivated by profit, I don't see why it makes sense to assume everyone is. There's potentially far more than money on the table as well.

[Anonymous No.18626852]

>>18624709
>You'd have to be genuinely retarded to think that "capitalist finance" is developing progressivism and not the academia

You'd have to be genuinely retarded to think there's a difference.

BLM was financed by the Bank of America, the guy credited with creating it a Jew.
The couple of instances in Europe where BLM occurred were run by Jews and dykes.
I believe that in Hungary or wherever, it was a fat Jewish broad and a lesbo whose previous social justice exploits were financed by the Open society foundation a.k.a. Soros.

>>18624754
>They talk about "racial diversity", because the audience pays for it
And how did that happen?
Why don't they talk about how Jews own hollywood?
Why do I - while watching the Oscars - get to see a Jewish comedian joke about Harvey Weinstein, saying he hasn't seen a white guy that scared since "x event" (don't remember what it was), while in fact Weinstein and the majority (around 70%) of the sex offenders were Jews.

People would pay to watch that wouldn't they?
They'd also pay for anti Israel movies, and movies talking about who owns the porn industry, and a movie about how Jewish the bolshevic were, or the Jewish role in American slavery?

But they don't make such content in the West, now do they.

[Anonymous No.18626886]

>>18626667
>Yeah, that's how that happened...
>Our fate was decided after WW2
after French Revolution, when Robespierre destroyed medieval guilds and their collective rights, rendering everyone an individual and setting everything on its trajectory towards centralization and bureaucracy.

>mainly by Jewish banks
mainly by banks *per se*. Your fate was decided in 1694, when Bank of England was formed, and William III decided it was a good idea to use his debts as moneys, with the promise of repayment (with interest!) weighting down not on him personally, but on country itself. Yay, capitalism.

>Ah yes... That's why they flock together,
As I have already shown you the link, dumbfuck, corporations in Israel can be divided into two groups: the "dominant" capital (6 corporations + government) and the rest. The latter are fucked.
>why does he do things which favour Jews?
https://bnarchives.yorku.ca/131/1/19880101rbn_some_aspects_of_aggregate_concentration_in_the_israeli_economy.pdf
"The situation closely resembles the relations between the "Executive Committee of the Histadrut" and Bank Hapoalim. The bank acted for many years as it separately wished. For instance, the bank took over the pension funds of the Histadrut who were compelled to invest in it. Further, Bank Hapoalim also forbad the Histadrut's comptroller from any access to its domain"
"The recent "Bejsky Commission" (Bejsky et al, 1986) unveiled Bank Leumi's straw subsidiaries and part of its complicated financial activities in Israel and abroad. Similar evidence was presented for Bank Hapoalim. The picture that emerges is one in which the banks had little to do with the Zionist cause or with labour unions, but rather they mainly were concerned with profit making"

I repeat: are you retarded?

>The churches adapted to secular conditions
The churches invented secular conditions. Because Vatican discredited its authority due to political power struggles, causing Martin Luther and Reformation.
>Christianity was alive and well long after protestantism
Christianity IS protestantism. The whole North American continent and half of Europe consist of them. You retarded?

>nor does it explain their anti-white
It does: >>18624754
Whatever shit sells is sold. Capitalism. You have a religion based on Original Sin and self-flaggelation. What can go wrong?
Leftism is merely its next logical step.

[Anonymous No.18627170]

>muh wife
lol

[Anonymous No.18627174]

>>18625813

Holy fuck dude. How can you just separate culture from politics in such a clear manner? A polis will always be at most the sum of its members working their best, a perfect United States would be one in which each people is giving their maximum possible output in harmony with the most virtuous form of living he/she can attain(the math professor is cranking a bunch of new theorems as soon as he can prove them, the musician is creating the best music his abilities confer him the capacity to produce, the mother is taking care of her children as best she can, also all people strive towards virtuous living and avoid clearly bad behaviour: homosexuality, cowardice, drug-use, porn consumption and so on...). The best political system is one in which is the most conducive for the people to achieve their individual potentialities. To achieve their individual potentialities people should be conduced to virtuous living, otherwise they will be lost in bad surrogate activities(activities that are either not useful for the polis or that are not the ones in which the individual can achieve a good development for his potentialities). The US has no virtues, they actively preach vice and worship criminals, the culture of the US thus is not conducive to good citizenship and thus the US is a bad polis. A new structure of government can be good if it works in such a way to promote good virtues and destroy vice, it may not do that tho if the leaders do not work toward this goal, or if the goal is not feasible. Now, what happens in the case of the US?

The US has a mass of citizens with great potentialities, but low birth rates in the white ruling class and mass migration of inferior people is lowering this potentiality(like a rocket leaking fuel), also the forms of living practiced by Americans are not virtuous and they seem extremely hostile to virtuous living preferring a lower life of grease consumption and sexual deviancy. If we think about the government system as the architecture of a computer, a perfect monarchy would be a working system in which the parts are organized in such a way to minimize power leakage and bugs. But this architecture alone won't make a good computer, you need good materials, not all material is conducive to the creation of a good computer and it is pretty clear. As Aristotle taught us millennia ago, things are made of both matter AND form, form alone won't do it:

https://www.newexpressnews.com/no-knives-made-from-frozen-human-feces-do-not-work-cnet/

The problem we have at hand is multifaceted and an american monarchy would be just like a shit knife, it would not cut it. The fuel is leaking and and to turn "US culture" into actual culture would be such a gigantic undertaking that seems more the job for a God than for any man. Am I angry at gay fat mexicans? No. Am I sceptical that gay fat mexicans can be turned into good productive virtuous citizens by the hands of a national CEO? Yes.

[Anonymous No.18627594]

>>18626706
>Curtis is banking on creating a network of 'rogue elites' starting with his immediate circle. Thiel is a known associate of his, but there are even rumors that the CEOs of Cloudflare and Coinbase are partial to his writing. Who knows. He was described as '21st century Adam Weishaupt' by an interviewer recently and I can't help but feel the description is very accurate

*knock knock*
CURTIS ARE YOU STILL UP? ENOUGH WITH THE TYPING ALREADY, WE CAN HEAR YOU ALL THE WAY FROM THE FIRST FLOOR. GO TO BED AND LET YOUR FATHER AND I GET SOME SLEEP. SOME OF US HAVE TO WORK IN THE MORNING YOU KNOW.

[Anonymous No.18627633]

>>18626838
people in power now aren't
thiel is

[Anonymous No.18628161]

>>18627633
And you know that how?

[Anonymous No.18628524]

>>18627174
>The US has a mass of citizens with great potentialities
No it doesn't KEK

[Anonymous No.18628744]

>>18622884
There isn't any evidence of man-driven climate change, anyway. The argument that the climate is, in fact changing, is unassailable, however.

[Anonymous No.18628756]

>>18622466
The point? Why, the dorkiest and verbose graduates of computer science programs such as Yarvin will call the shots. That’s the point. Isn’t that based?

[Anonymous No.18629047]

>>18621412
is he the most cringe political theorist out there?

[Anonymous No.18629072]

>>18629047

All people related to the "rationalist" movement are cringe like that.

[Anonymous No.18629131]

Nick Land doesnt really like Yarvin anymore...He thinks that Yarvin has abandoned the concepts of EXIT and experimentation of his UR writings and mostly just moved on to a bland type of absolute monarchism....I think I agree with Land.