/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.18605004]

What's the most /lit/ video game?

[Anonymous No.18605043]

>>18605004
Trails in the Sky

[Anonymous No.18605058]

>>18605004
DDLC

[Anonymous No.18605069]

>>18605004
Video games are not /lit/, it's a useless suggestion - just like asking if a book is /mu/, if a video game is kino, if a painting is dance. Literature is not an essence, it is a form. You could say vidya contains literature, such as skyrim, but your weebshit "I'm epic japan-man kill em all" game does not. Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri is a good game, it is not /lit/, but it's a good game, which can't be said for 99% of vidya

[Anonymous No.18605070]

A legitimately great work of literature.

[Anonymous No.18605071]

>>18605058
It's not even good by VN standards, though

[Anonymous No.18605125]

>>18605071
it's a great horror game tho

[Anonymous No.18605363]

>>18605043
The whole 'The Legends of Heroes' series in general.

[Anonymous No.18605379]

>>18605004
Nier automata has very tight plot

[Anonymous No.18605422]

>>18605004
The whole mystery dungeon series.

[Anonymous No.18605432]

>>18605422
Pic related

[Anonymous No.18605498]

>>18605004
Unironically The Fruit of Grisaia

[Anonymous No.18605503]

>>18605070
Ironic that the best piece of literature yet produced by the modern generation is a vydia gem

[Anonymous No.18605510]

>>18605004
Higurashi: When They Cry

[Anonymous No.18605518]

>>18605498
Spent an hour trying to read this and it's written in such a poor manner. Maybe it's just the translation, but I got turned off it altogether. I needa hurry up and learn jap

[Anonymous No.18605544]

>>18605070
This

[Anonymous No.18605563]

>>18605004
cruelty squad, and it is doubly based for having like10 pages of lore and story at most

[Anonymous No.18605619]

>>18605069
>if a video game is kino
Pretty much everything can be kino, same with dance

[Anonymous No.18605642]

>>18605004
Nier Replicant

[Anonymous No.18605675]

Morrowind

[Anonymous No.18605750]

>>18605004
Legacy of Kain games, except Blood Omen 2.

[Anonymous No.18605766]

>>18605004
I don't play videogames, so i don't know.

[Anonymous No.18605876]

>>18605070
This is only good if you're a irony-poisoned bugman twitterfag who can only think of politics in the most retarded, reductionist manner possible.

[Anonymous No.18605890]

I used to collect and read all the books in the NWN main campaign, fun times

[Anonymous No.18605908]

Fallout, the Elder Scrolls

Simply because of all the reading material and literature references.

[Anonymous No.18605916]

>>18605908
By that metric, Elder Scroll and Fallout are dilettante trash and Pathologic is the true king of games.

[Anonymous No.18605948]

>>18605004
What comes to mind for me:

>King's Quest series
>Quest for Glory series
>The Last Express
>Pathologic

I don't like recommendations like Planescape or >>18605070 because those feel influenced more by tabletop games than by literature. For a game to feel /lit/ it needs to be more than just be wordy.

[Anonymous No.18605952]

>>18605069
>vidya

[Anonymous No.18605955]

>>18605070
/thread

[Anonymous No.18605961]

>>18605948
>King's Quest
Those games were FUCKING shit.

[Anonymous No.18605967]

>>18605961
Sounds like you got filtered.

[Anonymous No.18605972]

>>18605967
Yeah, filtered as in "Don't cotton to garbage"

[Anonymous No.18605975]

>>18605972
They're some of the best point and click adventures from the 80s, don't know what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.18605978]

>>18605004
mount and blade
but only for a day once a week.
You realize this is for the better when you realise video games are for kids

[Anonymous No.18605985]

>>18605975
>They're some of the best point and click adventures from the 80s
A sorely underwhelming metric, by all means.

[Anonymous No.18605987]

antichamber and the stanley parable were pretty good transmiting their ideas.

[Anonymous No.18605988]

>>18605978
>video games are for anyone with a lot of free time
ftfy

[Anonymous No.18606006]

>>18605985
Not really, since that genre was big then. But the point of mentioning it was because it was /lit/ rather than to dispute its quality anyway.

[Anonymous No.18606014]

>>18606006
>But the point of mentioning it was because it was /lit/ rather than to dispute its quality anyway.
Okay, fine. I don't really remember the stories or dialogue of those games that well, just that they were really cheap and unfair for no real reason.

[Anonymous No.18606020]

>>18605890
i miss this game. going to play it right now

[Anonymous No.18606090]

What about Bioshock (the first one)?

[Anonymous No.18606150]

>>18605876
He says as he reduces everyone who likes a thing he doesn't to caricature

[Anonymous No.18606209]

>>18605518
>>18605518
same but I read in jap, what the fuck is up with the writing

[NEMO. !!GgBWHLRiayD No.18606254]

[Anonymous No.18606293]

>>18605004
Street fighter.

these fictional bios , kind of like Marcel Schwob, (later copied by Borges and Bolano).

They have to fight to find their destiny, or overcome their past.

[Anonymous No.18606829]

>>18605004
Knights of the Old Republic I & II

[Anonymous No.18606876]

The Blood Meridian of video games

[Anonymous No.18606909]

>>18605004
Kids

[Anonymous No.18606937]

video games are not literature, brought to you by the creators of cigarettes are not literature.

[Anonymous No.18606941]

>>18605070
I asked this in a couple other threads but to little avail. What's a book/work like DE? The only suggestions people have given is Kurvitz's untranslated novel and Miéville's The City &The City.
What I would hope for is something a little less communist-addled and more along the lines of the cosmic horror/weirdness of the game.

[Anonymous No.18606963]

>>18606876
>The Blood Meridian of video games
nah that's kenshi

[Anonymous No.18606968]

>>18605004
>Silent Hill 1, 2, 3, and 4
The first four have deep occultic themes. The director always had an interest in western mysticism and he made sure to weave the game world to reflect many of these. 1, 3, and 4 in particular are the heaviest in regards to these, while 2 is more a psychological horror and has inspirations from Dostoevsky's work, primarily Crime and Punishment.

>STALKER
The games cultivate the lonely and alien atmosphere of the Zone better than the Roadside Picnic (though not as good as the film).

>I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream
A point-and-click adventure game that Ellis himself helped write. It's superior to the book in my opinion, just for the fact that it expands on the world and characters that Ellis created. It's nigh-impossible to get a good ending without cheating, because Ellis originally didn't want to have a good ending be possible at all, so I recommend playing without a guide.

>Rule of Rose
A beautiful and atmospheric game. It's Lord of the Flies but with young girls. Anyone that grew up around rapacious and vindictive girls in school will relate to this heavily. A reviewer succinctly described the general tone as a fear of women. Gameplay is shit though.

>Morrowind
If you have any interest in Gnosticism, then this is the best. You can see parallels to the spiritual philosophy all throughout the game.

>The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask
Ocarina of Time is a good retelling of the monomyth, while Majora's Mask takes the monomyth and turns it into a schizo nightmare. MM also convinced me that video games are the only medium that can do the themes of time-traveling well.

>Pathologic
This game was originally going to be a play. I can't remember why it didn't workout that way but they stay faithful to the idea of being a play within the game. This is a dense game and has been known to filter retards who can't grasp complex dialogue.

>NieR
Replicant and Automata are both meta-narrative games with Automata hamfisting philosophy at every turn. They're well-written but it can come off as pretentious and most of the philosophical themes are surface level, that being said Yoko Taro the games director is a well-read individual.

That's all I can think of now.

>>18605058
>totono ripoff

[Anonymous No.18606997]

>>18606963
Nah that's Bloodborne

[Anonymous No.18607007]

>>18606968
>occultic
>Lord of the Flies
>Gnosticism
>monomyth
This is why no one takes g*mers seriously.

[Anonymous No.18607023]

>>18606876
How? I can't think of a single part about the game that's McCarthy-esque whatsoever. Just because it takes place in the West and has a red tint doesn't make it similar to Blood Meridian.

[Anonymous No.18607066]

>>18607007
Cope. I read more than you.

[Anonymous No.18607068]

>>18607066
Yes I know you read Resident Evil novels in the bathroom while I'm fucking your gf.

[Anonymous No.18607084]

>>18607068
Seethe

[Anonymous No.18607085]

>>18606876
Bloodborne is the blood Meridian of Vidya. Bloodborne is the most lit game there is.

[Anonymous No.18607090]

>>18607085
Bloodborne is literally Lovecraftian. Has nothing to do with Blood Meridian in terms of anesthetics or themes

[Anonymous No.18607096]

>>18607085
besides the lovecraft and other horror influences, how? it's essentially a braindead action game in essence.

[Anonymous No.18607103]

>>18607096
Hell nah faggot. Have you ever gone insane? Someone has literally gone fucking insane on their development team to be able to make that game.

[Anonymous No.18607104]

>>18607090
Judge is also Lovecraftian in some ways, except not "unspeakable" looking.

[Anonymous No.18607108]

>>18607090
Bloodborne is about succumbing to power via Bloodlust and going insane you fucking moron. What do you think happens to the people in Blood Meridian.

[Anonymous No.18607111]

>>18607096
>it's essentially a braindead action game in essence.
Filtered

[Anonymous No.18607113]

>>18607103
it's not that insane, well executed sure but I never found it particularly shocking.
>>18607104
>the meta characterization of war and mankind itself is lovecraft because he's "unknowable!!!!!!!"
kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.18607122]

>>18607096
You have no ability to read between the lines.

[Anonymous No.18607126]

>>18607111
first of all, apologies for being redundant like a sperg, haven't got much sleep. secondly none of these soul games actually offer anything beyond what's immediately on the surface. the lore is simply obscurantist, not well thought out.

[Anonymous No.18607133]

>>18607113
What? Have you ever had psychosis? Bloodborne is about going insane? What are you talking about it's "not insane." Did you even play the game? There is a literal nightmare all hunters get sucked into when they can't stop killing.

[Anonymous No.18607135]

>>18607108
You're retarded. By that extension, anything that has characters being violent is essentially Blood Meridian

[Anonymous No.18607138]

>>18607126
Sounds like you never spent much time with them. And things are obscure. They simply aren't explicit. He doesn't try to obfuscate anything. Just doesn't say.

[Anonymous No.18607147]

>>18607135
Being violent and not being able to stop being violent and losing your mind because of it are two different things. You have to be 18+ to post here anon.

Sometimes I forget people here are retarded.

[Anonymous No.18607150]

>>18607113
It's Lovecraftian, retard. Not Lovecraft. Lovecraft did not invent that aesthetic. Even Moby Dick has chapters where the Whale feels very Lovecraftian, which is what McCarthy was going for I guess. Lovecraftian aesthetic: some cosmic force of nature that is unknowable and beyond human.

[Anonymous No.18607159]

>>18607150
>which is what McCarthy was going for I guess
You guess wrong. Brainlet

[Anonymous No.18607161]

[Anonymous No.18607166]

>>18607122
there's a bit of a misunderstanding here, I'm asking how "Bloodborne is the most lit game there is" rather than its relation to Blood Meridian (not that I wouldn't contest such a claim though, mind you)
>>18607133
what a pop culture monkey.

[Anonymous No.18607171]

>>18607126
>the lore is simply obscurantist, not well thought out.
That is not true. It is hardly very obscure (the lore items give 80% of the story without any contradictions or confusion) and it is well thought out. You just never gave them a fair chance

[Anonymous No.18607179]

>>18607147
No characters in Blood Meridian lose their mind to bloodlust. They were all innately violent from the get-go. Sorry sweaty, your precious vidya isn't as deep as you want it to be.

[Anonymous No.18607181]

>>18607159
>no argument
You know shit, retard.

[Anonymous No.18607186]

>>18607181
Why would I argue a claim you're not even sure about?

[Anonymous No.18607188]

>>18607166
Bloodborne is barely pop culture. I'm saying it's lit because it's an accurate depiction of different facets of insanity.

[Anonymous No.18607191]

>>18607138
>He doesn't try to obfuscate anything.
no, he doesn't "try" to do anything, miyazaki simply inserting arbitrary tidbits of trivia to puff up the scale of his setting is more than enough to get people to look too deep into it.
>>18607150
>some cosmic force of nature that is unknowable and beyond human.
what an extremely vague definition.

[Anonymous No.18607192]

>>18605070
these retards need to release the ps4 disc version asap. I'm not downloading this game from the fucking store. my money has been waiting since the initial pc release and it's still not here. fuck I'm ANGRY

[Anonymous No.18607194]

>>18607188
>Bloodborne is barely pop culture.
you are a fucking monkey.

[Anonymous No.18607197]

>>18607179
They were violent but only in the second half of the novel do they start killing Mexicans, instead of just natives. Imagine being this braindead. Idk why this board shits on F. Gardner. That's about you people's level.

[Anonymous No.18607202]

>>18607186
>offer nothing
>"y-you are not sure about that"
Sure, dumbass. You are just sperging because I compared the 2 holy grails on this board to a puny genre writer like Lovecraft, when that was never the point. Get your brain working, you lemming.

[Anonymous No.18607208]

>>18607194
Go jerk off incel. I know you don't have sex, you obviously have autism. Not even the good kind. Just the kind that makes smelly and retarded.

[Anonymous No.18607210]

>>18607191
>extremely vague definition
Suits it. It is a very Lovecraftian definition

[Anonymous No.18607213]

>>18607197
Oh WOW a people willing to scalp the heads of Native American children for money are also willing to scalp random Mexicans who also fit the color bill. That's definitely them turning insane and not just being naturally who they are.

AHHH HELP ME CORMAC MCCARTHY IM GOING INSANE

[Anonymous No.18607224]

>>18607202
Bruh, these people are interlopers.

[Anonymous No.18607226]

>>18607208
>my triple A game that's designed to appeal to a large audience isn't pop culture
don't give me any shit about difficulty, we know that's a marketing gimmick too.

[Anonymous No.18607239]

>>18607213
Who scalps children? The judge? Lmao he was already killing puppies and why are you pretending they weren't people with morals in the group? Lmao imagine not knowing anything about what you are trying to argue. Have you even read BM? Are is it just stuff you heard about from the board?

[Anonymous No.18607249]

>>18605070
bolaño looking ass

[Anonymous No.18607254]

>>18607226
Yeah, unadjustable difficulty is marketing gimmick lmao. Was I right about you being an incel with autism.

[Anonymous No.18607255]

>>18605379
leave

[Anonymous No.18607257]

/v/ fags should be forcefully injected with HRT.

[Anonymous No.18607268]

>>18607254
>Yeah, unadjustable difficulty is marketing gimmick lmao.
emphatically yes. it's something so arbitrary and meaningless yet people are still compelled to make a big deal out of it because it's some kind of "missing novelty".

[Anonymous No.18607293]

>>18606876
Basado.

[Anonymous No.18607300]

>>18605004
Dark Souls

[Anonymous No.18607304]

>>18607202
You already cemented any argument I need to make. You aren't even sure that McCarthy was going for a lovecraftian aesthetic. Arguing against a guess may as well be boxing with a ghost.

[Anonymous No.18607305]

>>18607268
That game has a strange effect on people who get into it. There was a 150 page explanation of the lore called The Pale Blood Hunt by some guy named Redgrave. The game inspires obsession with it. The lore is actually pretty explicit compared to the other souls games.

I say it's like because of how it sinks itself into people and has the capability to make people obsessed with it. Miyazaki has gone on record to say that people on the development team began to have dreams or nightmares about the game while making it. They continue to reference the game in other shit they do to this day, like any good piece of art it stays with you. This is why I say it's lit.

[Anonymous No.18607315]

>>18607239
Name someone with morals aside from the priest, who never even gives into bloodlust, just stays as a petty and ineffective moral foil. The kid is neutral at best.

[Anonymous No.18607316]

>>18607305
you know what, fuck you. smash every bone in your foot with a hammer, please.

[Anonymous No.18607329]

>>18607305
>Miyazaki has gone on record to say that people on the development team began to have dreams or nightmares about the game while making it
He never said this

[Anonymous No.18607331]

>>18607315
Bruh, when the Judge killed the little kid. Snapped his neck, Toadvine pulled his pistol out and put it to the judges dome. You never read the book anon. Just admit it. Even bathcat was like wtf.

[Anonymous No.18607334]

>>18605070
Am I the only one who didn't like this. I found it very shallow, and it read like ramblings in a Phil101 or Polisci101 class. Tons of topics thrown in making for wide breadth but exceptionally shallow depth.

>>18607300
Completely agree. It's a game that treats its players with respect. The devs created a world which the player slowly fills with their own meaning, instead of pushing their worldview onto the player.

[Anonymous No.18607335]

>>18607331
Oh, so you mean they didn't give into their bloodlust and still had morals? Interesting.

[Anonymous No.18607339]

>>18607329
Yes.
>>18607316
Why you mad bro.
>>18607315
The kid is nice. He pulled that arrow out of that one faggots leg. The judge even names him as the last holdout from depravity. Anon. Do you know anything about BM.

[Anonymous No.18607358]

the whole concept of the souls series is absolutely brilliant. Picking up these notes, annotations or even the item descriptions and crafting your own story from that so to speak is something that's unique to the medium of video games and Miyazaki is a genius for executing it this well: Read only a few lines and you'll have a cryptic understanding of the story, which may leave you a bit confused but it adds a lot to the mysterious atmosphere - and if you decide to read every little detail and try to connect everything then you'll have an absolutely thrilling plot. Either way you're getting a masterpiece. People who just treat this series (especially bloodborne) as just some wacky pretentious hack'n'slash must be the most boring, unimaginative and dumbest people on earth.

[Anonymous No.18607359]

>>18606876
I've never talked to someone who was a self-professed fan of New Vegas that wasn't a complete faggot. Even Dark Souls fanboys aren't as bad.

[Anonymous No.18607361]

>>18607339
The Kid still participated in the killing and scalping. Does one kind act redeem all the other evil ones? At this point it's a matter of interpretation. The Kid in my eyes is a neutral moral holdout, but not a paragon.

[Anonymous No.18607370]

>>18606968
based effortpost. take your well deserved (you), anon.
>>18605070
it suck dicks.
>oh communism.... that grimy, obscure, and somehow nostalgic magnum opus of all mankind.
>oh libertarianism... money, i guess?
>oh racism... niggers are the fault of... everything? HOW, ARE THOSE BIGGOTTED RACIST SCUMBAGS CAN BLAME EVERYTHING ON POC???

[Anonymous No.18607381]

>>18607304
>You aren't even sure that McCarthy was going for a lovecraftian aesthetic.
Real world exists outside your fucking head, mein nigger. McCarthy drew clear parallels with some aspects of The Whale for The Judge. The Whale feels Lovecraftian in those aspects that carried over.
A=B=C
If you were a little smarter you would have figured this out.
>"but but you are not sure"
Don't make me laugh.

[Anonymous No.18607385]

>>18607358
You will never be a woman btw.

[Anonymous No.18607391]

>>18607381
>The Judge is lovecraftian bc the whale in Moby Dick is lovecraftian!
Absolute brainlet. Moby Dick is certainly an influence, but the Judge has nothing in common with the whale

[Anonymous No.18607400]

>>18607358
Nailed it.

>>18607385
You will never be a man.

[Anonymous No.18607403]

>>18607361
I don't think he was neutral. He had morals when it pertained to the group obviously and some that were also directed outward. Look at when he was with Sproule. He may have been neutral sometimes, depraved other times, and acting morally also. Idk why faggot like you don't think you can do all three. As if someone has to be one way all the time. You probably think we either have free will or we don't. Faggot sometimes we do and other times we don't. All or nothing faggots BTFO'd.

[Anonymous No.18607408]

This thread had promise until the meridian and bloodborne niggers reared their heads

[Anonymous No.18607419]

>>18607403
Do you hear yourself? I'm saying he's neutral because he does good and bad. You're the all or nothing nigger proclaiming he's good despite the bad just because he's done good.

[Anonymous No.18607427]

>>18607358
how are any of these traits exclusive to the souls franchise? phrases such as "crafting your own story" are such meaningless platitudes.
>People who just treat this series (especially bloodborne) as just some wacky pretentious hack'n'slash must be the most boring, unimaginative and dumbest people on earth.
get your head out of your fucking ass.

[Anonymous No.18607430]

>>18607419
That's not what neutral means you fucking idiot. They don't just cancel each other out you fucking moron. It's not math. Also, is morality objective? How was it not a good thing to scalp the angry natives who were killing everyone? He degenerated with the group.

[Anonymous No.18607439]

>>18607419
Imagine not knowing what an anti-hero trope is. Anon, how did you escape the zoo.

[Anonymous No.18607447]

>>18605422
>>18605432
Left to the wayside :(

[Anonymous No.18607448]

>>18607391
>Moby Dick is certainly an influence, but the Judge has nothing in common with the whale
You have read neither of the two books. Just fucking shut up retard.

[Anonymous No.18607457]

>>18607448
All you've done is make claims of comparison without anything to back it up

[Anonymous No.18607463]

When is /v/ hosting the next Blood Meridian thread? About time for a 2nd one. Need some respite from their constant manchild sperging.

[Anonymous No.18607468]

>>18607408
>This thread had promise
No it didn't, video games are such an autistic revolting medium that any sort of discussion is inevitably degenerated by the existence of the exact sort of person who consumes such filth in the first place. It was dead the moment OP decided to make an off-topic thread to find "people like him" all.

[Anonymous No.18607478]

>>18607430
Yes, morality is objective. Claims otherwise are retarded. Scalping teepee niggers for scalping paleniggers for killing teepee niggers in an endless cycle is morally bad on all sides.
>>18607439
I'm convinced you don't know what an antihero is aside from edgy characters who do good but also kill

[Anonymous No.18607481]

>>18607468
Shut the fuck up you stupid bitch.

[Anonymous No.18607485]

>>18607427
Name me a game that doesn't shove a story or worldview down your throat. Where you can interpret the world as you wish instead of being told through cutscenes and overwhelming dialogue. Where your actions speak for itself instead of being presented with a colorful dialogue wheel to determine what you do with NPCs. In souls games, you give the world meaning and mold it through your interactions with it. In other games, you simply play through a pre-built story.

[Anonymous No.18607490]

>>18607468
Eh, I do agree. But I don't think it's a terrible medium, in and of itself. Some like >>18606968 tried at least with fair examples. But yeah, the consumerist sum of video games ultimately degenerates everything.

[Anonymous No.18607492]

>>18607457
>The Judge and the Whale are the most compared characters/devices in contemporary literary criticism
>"it is false. You have nothing to back up"
How about you read them books?

[Anonymous No.18607495]

>>18607463
>When is /v/ hosting the next Blood Meridian thread?
no wonder why everyone was talking like a teenager with inflated self-importance.

[Anonymous No.18607502]

>>18607485
Unironically, CK2 and Mount and Blade. Games like those let you sculpt the world how you want, and allow you to craft your own narrative. Souls games are literally amusement parks, they just don't hold your hand.

[Anonymous No.18607505]

>>18607478
So, you're a turn the other cheek type? Now, I'm catholic but sometimes people need to die. I think there was degeneration and it wasn't necessarily always bad. Glanton was the only one who really wanted to kill them fornbad reasons as he wanted revenge for what happened to his family. When God said, thou shalt not kill. He meant other Jews everyone else was fair game. Also, Jesus did not come for the gentiles and only recanted later I believe. I mean. BM is edgy and childish at times. Like wtf is the point of the dead baby tree. Let's not pretend CM is a master of character creation.

[Anonymous No.18607516]

>>18607492
This isn't evidence. I have read them, I don't see the comparison between the two characters. You're the one making the claim, the onus is on you to back it up. But you can't, because you know you're too much of a brainlet to even contrive one

[Anonymous No.18607523]

>>18607485
>Name me a game that doesn't shove a story or worldview down your throat.
let me guess, you won't accept any answers like "minecraft", right?
>Where you can interpret the world as you wish instead of being told through cutscenes and overwhelming dialogue.
not exclusive to souls.
>Where your actions speak for itself instead of being presented with a colorful dialogue wheel to determine what you do with NPCs.
it's actually a pretty primitive application of things wrpgs have been doing for years.
>you give the world meaning and mold it through your interactions with it.
what? you mean just going through the game???
>In other games, you simply play through a pre-built story.
souls game technically have "pre-built" stories too, and it's obviously not an exclusive trait to souls either.

[Anonymous No.18607545]

>>18607516
>I don't see the comparison between the two characters
You are fucking retarded then.
>I have read the book
Bullshit claim. Everything in this thread proves you don't know shit you are talking about.
Just shut up. I am fed up with your dumb non-answers. Clog some other thread.

[Anonymous No.18607548]

>>18607505
I want to say anon, I don't really think you're a dumb nigger or anything. I'm actually enjoying the discussion despite the vitriol. We both have out views but I appreciate your outlook.
I'm not really a turn the other cheek type, or religious, so I won't debate religious morality so far as in what scriptures say, I just believe reality itself is ultimately a place of suffering. Evil is synonymous with suffering to me. I think that killing can, and often is, justified in the realm of suffering/evil we live in, but that doesn't make it any less evil. Even doing a good act can have unforeseen consequences of suffering.

[Anonymous No.18607553]

>>18607490
It doesn't really matter, you can chalk up Silent Hill to be a modern day Crime & Punishment all you want be we all know its major audience are sensitive pampered crybaby millennials, while Crime & Punishment appeals to a greater variety of people from all different walks of life. Until this generation dies out there will never be a serious discussion on video games, if ever.

[Anonymous No.18607557]

>>18607545
I've literally only responded to you nigger. Sorry it's hard for you to believe not everyone loves Blood Meridian. Again, you can't back up anything you say because your brain is weak and malnourished

[Anonymous No.18607570]

>>18607553
No one said that though. Only thay it was inspired by Crime and Punishment.

[Anonymous No.18607573]

>>18607427
when did I say that this is exclusive to souls you absolute midwit? Didn't I say that this is exclusive to the MEDIUM of vidya, you fucking cunt? Learn to read.

[Anonymous No.18607587]

>>18607502
Haven't played CK2 or Mountain Blade so can't comment but you are probably right. Souls games can very much be like amusement parks, except you have no idea what any of the roller coasters do until you try for yourself. Also there's mystery surrounding all the rides, they seem to be related to each other and the park, so you are incentivized to dig further. The best thing about souls is that you can treat it as a braindead amusement park and have a good time, or go deep and dig into the world lore. It allows for both options.

>>18607523
Minecraft has nothing deeper to discover. It's an engine, not a game. There is no sense of atmosphere, and that's important IMO for a /lit/ game. And yes you shape the world through how you interact with its characters. And not interacting with them can also have consequences. Without spoiling anything, anybody who played Demon's Souls and met Yurt knows what I'm talking about. In terms of story, I should've worded it better. Souls do not shove their story or world down your throat unlike other games. The player can decide how much they wish to be involved in the story, versus simply killing everything in their sight and ignoring story altogether. Most other games I've played forces you through their story whether you want to or not, including open world games like Skyrim should you want to "beat" it.

[Anonymous No.18607619]

>>18607557
>Sorry it's hard for you to believe not everyone loves Blood Meridian.
Literally what the fuck are you talking about you fucking retard?! Where the fuck did loving the book come in from? Comparing it to Moby Dick is loving it when it is literally the first book it is compared to? Comparing The whale and The Judge implies that? You are the most retarded person in this thread, that is some accomplishment. You have some other fucking agenda dumbass. If you can't follow a conversation then give up replying.
>because your brain is weak and malnourished
It is precisely because your entire genetic line is weak and malnourished that you your apebrain thinks that perfectly normal posts read dumb. Just hang yourself, nigger. You have lost the plot hard.

[Anonymous No.18607631]

>>18607548
I am actually a shit skin dirty Mexican but agreed. It is nice to talk to people about these things. I had a psychotic episode involving Bloodborne and I've also read BM around 9 times. This is probably why I am making connections that may or may not be there. There is a book called "Notes on Blood Meridian" that was pretty cool to read and had a lot of information on the creation and the reality of events BM based on.

I agree with you about the evil part. In Bloodborne there is an item called Beasts Roar, the description reads. "Borrow the strength of the terrible undead darkbeasts, if only for a moment, to blast surrounding foes back with the force of a roaring beast.

The indescribable sound is broadcast with the casters own vocal cords, which begs the question, what terrible things lurk deep within the frames of men?"

I think all humans have the capacity for evil innately inside them. Imo, the glanton gang could have been made up of anyone, anyone. I feel like CM knew this, so he made his gang up of other natives, whites, a black and also a Mexican. Have a good one anon.

[Anonymous No.18607640]

>>18607631
>I had a psychotic episode involving Bloodborne
What a wuss.

[Anonymous No.18607649]

>>18607619
>still can't offer any substantial claims to back himself up
Honestly pathetic. Please do not breed for the sake of the human race; I doubt you ever will, however, if you try and tell a woman that a whale is also a lovecraftian male as retardedly as you've done here.

[Anonymous No.18607685]

>>18607557
>it's another one of 'BM detractors being completely fucking retarded' thread.
This has to be an obsession at this point. Guy is discussing the points of comparison between the two books but this dumb retard feels the need to bring up how he doesn't like the book and since the other person is discussing it then he must love the book. What the fuck are you doing on this board? Go on /v/ if console war bs is all you are interested in, dumb nigger.
>"Noooooook you can't compare two books with similar themes. I don't like one of them so don't talk about it. I will just keep posting shit"
You are a literal manchild.

[Anonymous No.18607716]

>>18607685
I never said I didn't like Blood Meridian. Poor anon, I pity your reading comprehension. I simply disagreed with the comparison of the two characters, yet agreed with the comparison between the books. Don't involve yourself in arguments you're too retarded to understand. At least the other anon can keep up.

[Anonymous No.18607720]

>>18607649
>Please do not breed for the sake of the human race
Already bred that whore of your mother, kid.
>muh back up claims
Don't ask for shit you can't do yourself, dumb nigger.
If you can't see some of The Whale's traits in Holden then you are both blind and fucking retarded. And you better follow what you were yrying to project onto me; don't breed, even by rape.

[Anonymous No.18607727]

>>18607720
>Don't ask for shit you can't do yourself, dumb nigger.
Don't claim shit you can't back up, dumb nigger.

[Anonymous No.18607735]

>>18607716
>Sorry it's hard for you to believe not everyone loves Blood Meridian
>I never said I didn't like Blood Meridian
You are so retarded you can't even follow your own posts. The first quote had literally nothing to do with the discussion you fucking retard. Yet there it is. Now you are backpedaling like a nigger escaping child support. A stretch, a genetic bug like you can't breed.

[Anonymous No.18607743]

>>18607735
Like doesn't mean love, retard. It's a fair book, I just don't love it. Keep up.

[Anonymous No.18607759]

>>18607727
Literally read the book, dumb nigger. Instead of believing parrots on this board. Holden is Ahab, The whale and Milton's satan all rolled into one. And who knows what else. Your retarded ass acting like there is no point of comparison is pathetic and proof of your subhuman intelligence. McCarthy literally went out of the way to make him bald and hairless when the historical person and hair on his head, simply because the head may act as symbol for Melville's own description of the Whale's forehead.

[Anonymous No.18607771]

>>18607640
I had psychosis, played a lot of BB and thought there were messages in the game.

[Anonymous No.18607772]

>>18607743
What is the point in this discussion you fucking retard? You not loving it would somehow change the writing in the book and erase any comparison they have? That other dude is correct, you never evolved beyond an ape.

[Anonymous No.18607777]

>>18607759
>McCarthy literally went out of the way to make him bald and hairless when the historical person and hair on his head, simply because the head may act as symbol for Melville's own description of the Whale's forehead.
Wrong. Whales aren't bald, they have hair on their body.

[Anonymous No.18607782]

>>18607772
You said I didn't like the book, which I never said. You're simply wrong and I was pointing it out. Keep up.

[Anonymous No.18607784]

Pathologic 1 and 2. 2 is a remake of 1.
The writing is great in both games, but also quite different. in 2, characters talk more like actual people and less like poetry and philosophy dispensers. I understand some people prefer the writing in 1, but I find it much easier to become invested in the characters in 2 due to the more realistic writing. That writing also lends to the more strange and sinister aspects of the world to be more striking and frightening. In 1 it all kinda meshes together in a big soup of strangeness.
Pic related is a dialogue from 1.

[Anonymous No.18607796]

>>18607782
What's the point of bringing it up? You argue like a fucking child. In all those posts before you said nothing of value but at least they were on topic. Do you have some mental illness? Looks that way.

[Anonymous No.18607805]

>>18607796
>What's the point of bringing it up?
You're the one who went out their way to bring it up in the first place anon.

[Anonymous No.18607822]

>>18605004
Betrayal at Kondor

[Anonymous No.18607828]

>>18607805
>no u did it
The fucking irony of you questioning my reading comprehension.
You brought it up dumbass>>18607557
This guy questioned the same>>18607619

I wasn't even the 2nd one to do it. Mental illness it is then. Get help.

[Anonymous No.18607842]

>>18605004
Kingdom Come: Deliverance
You have to learn how to read, after which you can steal various little books about life, custom, or histories up to 14th century Bohemia; there is a quest line where you have to become a novitiate in a monastery and participate in the monastery life for a short time, including a crude mini game of copying Latin manuscripts, and attending multiple daily masses; and you get to carouse with a debauched parish priest who is a Jan Hus sympathizer and shitposting drunkard.

Truly a game for men of taste.

[Anonymous No.18607846]

>>18607828
Blood Meridian is not about whales, I'm sorry. Eventually you'll reach a point in your life where you realize this. Until then, try and read some more.

[Anonymous No.18607880]

>>18607846
>Blood Meridian is not about whales
Are you trolling or have you decided to announce to the world that you are a fucking retard today? The more you post the more you embarrass yourself. Literally back that retarded claim of yours with anything in the thread. If that's what you think either of us were trying to say, then I might have to report you for being underage.

[Anonymous No.18607896]

>>18607880
So now we've come full-circle. You want me to back up claims when you could never back up your own? Pathetic.
>then I might have to report you for being underage.
>jannies help me! someone is arguing with me in an off-topic video game thread on /lit/
Retarded.

[Anonymous No.18607910]

>>18607896
Atleast my claims are sensible. Your claim is literally a schizo reading this thread tier. Imagining shit in his head and then acting like it's reality.
>someone is arguing with me in an off-topic video game thread on /lit/
LMAO! Arguing is too big a word for you retard. I am reprimanding your underage ass for being a retard. Arguing needs points from the other side. You have posted shit and parrots.

[Anonymous No.18607920]

>>18605070
honestly, one of my favourite games of all time
i understand why it may repell some people and why some hate it
nevertheless - one of the best games i have ever played (then again - i've over 2k hours in ETS2)

[Anonymous No.18607928]

>>18607910
>my claims are sensible!
>claims are just comparisons without any substance or evidence
Pathetic.

[Anonymous No.18607956]

>>18607928
>all the evidence is in the comparison, obvious to anyone who has read them.
>even bring up the baldness, which Melville metaphorizes in Moby dick
>"Ackshuaally they aren't technically bald. You can feel their hair if you touch them"
>retard doesn't understand the first thing about allusion and symbolism
My bad for giving a worthless insect like you the time. You probably think that your reflection in the mirror is some voodoo shit or something lmao. That's how blind to sense you are.

[Anonymous No.18607982]

>>18607880
He has to be trolling anon. If he's not then you are just as retarded for wasting time and engaging with a retard.

[Anonymous No.18607989]

>>18607956
> y-you don't understand all the allusions and symbolism that I do!
>i-its totally there, I saw it!!
>it doesn't matter that there's no evidence for it!

[Anonymous No.18607995]

>>18607982
Yeah, I realized it. But I think he is actually that fucking retarded. I must stop. Thanks for the shake.

[Anonymous No.18608003]

>>18607982
Even if he is trolling he's retarded for eating the bait this long

[Anonymous No.18608020]

It's fucking hilarious that people here genuinely act like the words on the page disappear if they don't support their position in an argument. Even blatant symbolism can be vanished to sate somebody's retardation. Absolutely pathetic.

[Anonymous No.18608021]

>>18607995
Yeah, I think it's for the best you duck out of this. Like I said before, eventually you'll realize the Judge is not a whale.

[Anonymous No.18608024]

>>18607995
Sucks how many tards are on here. Sadly, everywhere else has more.

[Anonymous No.18608025]

>>18608003
>>18608021
Same retard. Don't try to escape dumbass. It is not bait, you are genuinely that retarded.

[Anonymous No.18608027]

Can we go back to discussing video games or...

[Anonymous No.18608034]

>>18608003
It happens to the best of us. People with autism are easily baited. You have to have at least mild autism to be here.

[Anonymous No.18608046]

>>18608025
No, I just genuinely think you're an idiot for feeding trolls