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[Anonymous No.18597386]

Rate my tier list and make your own.
https://tiermaker.com/create/big-philosophy-tier-list-53339

[Anonymous No.18597513]

[Anonymous No.18597572]

Why yes I am based how can you tell?

[Anonymous No.18597756]

>>18597513
I forgot to put him. He is S tier

[Anonymous No.18597810]

>>18597386
imagine unironically putting jordan peterson above wittgenstein and hegel LMFAO please get cancer and die asap

[Anonymous No.18597833]

>>18597386

[Anonymous No.18597898]

>>18597572
holy shit based

[Anonymous No.18598092]

[Anonymous No.18598128]

>>18597386
Camus and NEETcha would both be lower imo but that is a based list

[Anonymous No.18598195]

Here's the correct list
Also you missed a ton of big names like Augustine of Hippo and Kant for starters.

[Anonymous No.18598274]

>>18597386

[Anonymous No.18598290]

>>18597386
8/10 consistently based
>>18597513
Confirmed bottom boy 3/10
>>18597572
Would say fairly based but why is Laozi at the bottom? 7/10
>>18597833
Kys christcuck 1.5/10
>>18598092
Very interesting. I really like it. 9/10
>>18598195
idk, I have mixed feeling about this.

[Anonymous No.18598305]

Camus is a Z tier

>don't kys xD

[Anonymous No.18598332]

>>18598305
Cope

[Anonymous No.18598674]

Wrong picture of Kant btw

[Anonymous No.18598740]

>>18598290
cucked list desu

[Anonymous No.18598751]

>>18598092
who is at the top? beside the cynic

[Anonymous No.18598757]

>>18598195
>Diogenes, Epicurus, Dostoyevsky, Tolstoy in S tier
LOL.

[Anonymous No.18598870]

>>18597386
Didn't really read anyone else, just starting phil

[Anonymous No.18598905]

>>18597386
Objective ranking coming through!

[Anonymous No.18599396]

>>18597386
shit

>>18597572
shit

>>18598092
shit

>>18598195
shit

>>18598274
shit

>>18598290
shit

>>18598674
pretty cool

>>18598905
more patrician than me

[Anonymous No.18599400]

>>18599396
wtf happened to the captchas on here? pretty sure i attached my picture to this

[Anonymous No.18599433]

>>18598905
>Nietzsche A but Stirner G
Doesn't make any sense, faggot. Nobody who really read them both would do that.

[Anonymous No.18599440]

>>18597386
>Both Russell and Wittgenstein in F tier
other than that, pretty good
>>18597513
Based
>>18597572
6.5/10
>>18598092
7/10
>>18598195
>8/10
>>18598274
8.5/10
>>18598290
Based
>>18598674
9/10
>>18598905
Impressively extensive, but incorrect

[Anonymous No.18599444]

>>18598870
>he unironically started with the greeks
cute

[Anonymous No.18599455]

I rated not-Kant even though it's obviously meant to be Kant.
Lots of literally whos while people like Malebranche, Suarez, Duns Scotus, Boethius, Montaigne or Bolzano don't even make it to the list. Probably why mine is more crowded at the bottom.

[Anonymous No.18599498]

I am unable to recognise most ancient authors and I'm not looking them up, I recognise the best ones.

[Anonymous No.18599502]

>>18599498
forgot pic

[Anonymous No.18599560]

>>18597386
I am beyond all of you

[Anonymous No.18600048]

>>18599560
>Freud in the last tier
Holy fucking cringe

[Anonymous No.18600220]

outta my way

[Anonymous No.18600534]

>>18598757
How could they be anything else?

[Anonymous No.18600556]

>>18598195
I just got Augustine’s confessions and i’m looking forward to it. Im not a fan of Kant, tho. Let me ask u - what useful thing did you learn from Kant?

[Anonymous No.18600645]

I guess it’s up to me to make the objective tier list since no one else has

[Anonymous No.18600647]

>>18597386
How dare you put Voltaire, THE ETERNAL REDDITOR, up there? What has he written worth of being so highly regarded?

[Anonymous No.18600733]

>>18597386
Only ranked the philosophers I have read

[Anonymous No.18600760]

>>18600647
Haha. I always put an asterisk next to Voltaire as a philosopher. I think he was more of a witty author than a philosopher. He makes me laugh. Thats why I like him.

[Anonymous No.18600767]

>>18600733
Diogenes is goated. Why do u have him so low?

[Anonymous No.18600847]

>>18600767
Was going to say this. Diogenes would btfo plato regularly.

[Anonymous No.18600859]

I judge philosophers based purely on their physiognomy

[Anonymous No.18600892]

>>18597833
honestly this
>>18598674
yeah it's a picture of jacobi, also based
>>18598905
weird choices sometimes but u ayt
>>18600859
what a reta—
>I judge philosophers based purely on their physiognomy
holy mother of based

[Anonymous No.18601262]

>based on wikipedia

[Anonymous No.18601527]

>>18597572
>Putting Jordan "Clean your room" Peterson in the same tier as actual influential thinkers

[Anonymous No.18601549]

>>18601527
t.loser who didn't clean his room

[Anonymous No.18601569]

>>18597386
I dont think thats is fair/logical to put a subjective thing like philosophy in tiers

[Anonymous No.18601599]

>>18597386
this list fucking sucks and you're a fag. fuck you op

[Anonymous No.18601659]

>>18598905
based. this is a good list.

Should I read Schelling?

[Anonymous No.18601671]

>>18597513
FPBP

[Anonymous No.18601750]

>>18597572
Ridiculous and likely unjustifiable list by someone who seems to have a taste for aphorisms more than philosophy.

>>18598092
Incoherent/10, with points lost for Reddit Diogenes worship

>>18598674
Good stuff, some real depth, 8/10

>>18598905
8/10, Lacan too high and Nussbaum too low but you have something going on here.

>>18599440
Kierkegaard and Weil in S tier, my dude.

[Anonymous No.18601770]

>>18601569
Its not subjective lol

[Anonymous No.18601805]

>>18599560
why's Foucault that high knock that faggot down a couple tiers

[Anonymous No.18602311]

>>18600534
They aren't the anywhere near as original or important as someone like Plato, great though they are.

[Anonymous No.18602316]

>>18597386
You should have names underneath the pictures

[Anonymous No.18602326]

>No RC Waldun
Dropped desu

[Anonymous No.18602388]

>>18601599
Check

[Anonymous No.18602695]

>>18601659
Yes. His oeuvre is the most beautiful philosophical development in print. The way he goes from Fichtean Critical Idealism to Spinozist Naturphilosophie (but with a twist) then into Absolute Idealism of then Identity System and the proto-Existentialist and eerily Thomist Idealism of his late period is a journey in thought that really addresses the central problem of the entire tradition of philosophy.

[Anonymous No.18602717]

>>18602695
Damn that sounds fucking fire! I had him on my reading list but time to move him up a little higher

[Anonymous No.18604028]

>>18598905
>Freud in S tier
Holy fucking cringe

[Anonymous No.18604472]

>>18597572
Libtard detected

[Anonymous No.18604481]

>>18597833
HOLY CHAD BASED

[Anonymous No.18605233]

Sorry for being sympathetic to the Fr*nch

[Anonymous No.18605240]

>>18598751
Spinoza

[Anonymous No.18605490]

>>18597386

A pretty good list, OP. Captcha's absence prevented me from posting this earlier so here's mine.

[Anonymous No.18605572]

I assume the greek in S tier is Heraclitus, I am not sure.

>>18605490
good list

[Anonymous No.18605654]

>>18599560
Jung should be higher you faggot

[Anonymous No.18605670]

>>18605572
Why do you hate GWF so?

[Anonymous No.18605726]

my list is better than yours

[Anonymous No.18605736]

>>18605233
who is the guy next to Deleuze? can you redpill me on him?

[Anonymous No.18605885]

>>18597386
Sorry, can't be bothered with the rest
>>18605726
One of the best in the thread
>>18605572
Mixed feelings
>>18605490
Nope nope

[Anonymous No.18605907]

>>18597386

[Anonymous No.18606017]

>>18597386

[Anonymous No.18606024]

>>18597386
>Witty and Hegel under Peterson

Delicious bait

[Anonymous No.18606137]

>>18599440
Based and Weilpilled

[Anonymous No.18606149]

>>18605885
What did u learn from hegel?

[Anonymous No.18606161]

>>18606024
Hegel was indeed bait. Witty is dogshit tho. “if i put a book into a drawer and close it, i am not sure that its there” “BRICK!! Brick? Brickkkkkkkk!” Headass

[Anonymous No.18606191]

The man who single-handedly destroyed the notions of "relationships" in the Absolute, putting and end to the concepts of time and space. All the rest is just footnotes to this chad.

[Anonymous No.18606205]

The man who sodomized Descartes and his autism out of philosophy for centuries to come and single-handedly shaped almost all american philosophy from them on while at the same time being a mathematician, scientist and logician.

[Anonymous No.18606223]

The man who finally brought modal logic back to life and brought common sense back to "philosophy of language" ending decades of ultra-autistic and pointless debate started by Wittgenstein(most overrated philosopher in history)

[Anonymous No.18606227]

>>18606223

forgot pic

[Anonymous No.18606251]

>>18606191
>>18606205
>>18606227

since none of you mentioned those three absolute chads I am led to believe that you are all absolutely retarded.

[Anonymous No.18606266]

>>18597386

[Anonymous No.18606303]

[Anonymous No.18606396]

shut the fuck up everyone

[Anonymous No.18606461]

>>18600767
>>18600847
Autistic screeching does not make you a good philosopher and it didn't make Diogenes a good philosopher

[Anonymous No.18606636]

>>18605726

[Anonymous No.18606712]

>>18597386
>S: Albert Einstein, Isaac Newton, Jesus, Aristotle, Albert Camus, Friedrich Nietzsche, Diogenes, Can't See, Can't See, Carl Jung, Plato, Socrates, Job
>A: King George, Marcus Aurulieus
>B: Guy Fawkes, Niccolo Machiavelli, Martin Luther
>C: Albert Kafka
>D: Tony Stark, Sigmund Freud
>F: Franz Kafka, Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Hegel
Nice

[Anonymous No.18607143]

>>18597513
>>18598870
Based

[Anonymous No.18607527]

>>18606712
based mole rat poster

[Anonymous No.18608268]

>>18605736
Felix Guattari. Most of the more politically-driven works of Deleuze were written jointly between him and Guattari. I've never actually looked at any of his solo work but I put him up there mostly because of how he brought a characteristic kind of radically novel thought into Deleuze's philosophical framework. Again, not to be sympathetic to the French.

[Anonymous No.18608284]

>>18607143
Niggas actually "Start with the Greeks"? Shit, I thought it was just a joke.

[Anonymous No.18608305]

>>18605670
I HATE THE DIALECTIC
I HATE THE DIALECTIC
I HATE THE DIALECTIC

[Anonymous No.18608708]

I don't think you guys are being honest about who you've read

[Anonymous No.18608718]

>>18608708
oh I included Diogenes and Parmenides and Heraclitus though even though they don't really have any works of their own

[Anonymous No.18608797]

>>18597386
This is the objective right answer.

[Anonymous No.18608842]

>>18608797

horrible list. You start well at S tier, putting Fichte at A tier is ridiculous tho. In B tier things just go to absolute shit. Descartes, Frege, Aquinas, Kripke, Peirce and Spinoza are at the same level of Lacan, Sartre and Stirner? Does it make sense to you saying this? Sounds dumb for me, since I actually read those authors, gives me the impression you just dumped a bunch of names you found on Wikipedia.

[Anonymous No.18608856]

>>18608842
B is a big tent. Sartre is fine, Being and Nothingness is nothing to make fun of. Stirner isn't as good as Nietzsche but he's not spectacularly terrible either. I quite love Fichte and he deserves his place.

[Anonymous No.18608864]

>>18597386
Idk why would anyone put Camus above Sartre and Hegel, Wittgenstein also is undeserved in F tier

Especially since you places Aurelius in A tier, and nigger Voltaire in S tier. Same for Spinoza

I guess you dont read much philosophy, or are still an undergraduate

[Anonymous No.18608878]

>>18608708
You dont recognise Max Weber, Kripke, Bauvioure, Thomas Hobbs, Rousseau, Saint Augustine, Bakunin, Habermas, Popper, Sartre, Pascal, Avicenna, Baudillard, Husserl, Thomas Kuhn, Voltaire and Hayek? Is it because you never read them or?

[Anonymous No.18608881]

>>18608878
>Thomas Hobbs, Rousseau, Saint Augustine,
>Popper, Sartre, Pascal,
>Voltaire and Hayek
I know these ones, I just made it pretty fast. I also know chomsky.

[Anonymous No.18608932]

>>18608856

The point is not that Sartre and Stirner are crap... the point is that none of them come even close the other guys. Frege literally changed logic in such a radical way that most of philosophy today owes him A LOT. Kripke did the same for modal logic. Those changes are not local, they totally changed all the fields of philosophy in a radical way. Descartes is literally the father of modern philosophy, dude was an absolute genius and even if we don't accept most of his ideas, his approach just changed EVERYTHING. Aquinas is THE catholic philosopher, his work is literally official church doctrine to this day. Peirce is the inventor of pragmatism, he may not be as influential as the other guys, but go read his stuff, the guy was a total genius, probably the most intelligent American to ever exist. That is the criticism here.

[Anonymous No.18608964]

>>18608881
Looking at you S and A tier i guess Avicenna would be good to read, he expands on Aristotles metaphyics


Also mine

[Anonymous No.18609019]

>>18608932
Oh trust me I'm not rating based on verisimilitude or even influence alone. That's like only ranking artworks based on their realism, and devaluing anything that did something different. I just finished reading Dummett's book on Frege after taking a whole grad seminar on him, and I've read Naming and Necessity four times by now and the Meditations about as many times, you shouldn't assume you're talking to some continental kiddy just because I'm not anti-continental, as if the default position for someone in an analytic PhD program was to hate continental philosophy the way it seems you do? For autobiographical reasons as well as things that have to do with self-consciousness' importance to me and the beauty of his subjective idealism, Fichte ranks highly for me. If influence matters so much to you, just realize that the guy was very much directly responsible for Hegel and thus for Marx as well, and you can see where that influence leads if you keep going from there. He's just underrated.

[Anonymous No.18609041]

>>18599440
>Bachelard and Weil
Extremely based

[Anonymous No.18609095]

>>18609019

Ranking Fichte by direct influence to Hegel is unfair, because if gives to much weight for older philosophers(that should be weighted more heavily, but not to much, we need to control for the impact they had). I do not hate continentals, I unironically praised you putting Kant on S and Hegel on A. I am also a huge fan of Nietzsche despite his total lack of logic and anything analytical-looking. Lacan for me is just a no-no tho. What made me triggered is seeing guys who had "ok cool" ideas like Sartre and Camus put side by side with absolute geniuses like Descartes, Peirce and Leibniz. I can't argue against personal preference, so my autism is just about "who was the best" kind of in a childish way.

I like idealism by the way. Have you read Bradley, unironically loved his stuff. Also I am extremely biased towards mathematicians, since it is the area I am from.

[Anonymous No.18609110]

>>18609095
Well I still think Sartre is not just "ok cool" because of Being and Nothingness. As I said I made B a big tent. If you look at what I put under B you'll understand the little joke I'm playing there. I have a copy of Appearance and Reality but I did not finish reading it, however I do have two secondary works on Bradley (also didn't finish) so I do know him somewhat. I think he's fantastic. And I like mathematicians, I think Frege is fantastic and if you like Frege I think Dummett's book is really good, not just for Frege scholarship, but it's also systematic in its own way, and he's regularly responding to Quine, Geach, and other then-contemporary analytics and it's really great stuff, just very long. What are some other philosophers you'd add to the tiermaker list besides Bradley? Cause there's definitely a lot of missing analytics for one.

[Anonymous No.18609159]

help me identify these ones

[Anonymous No.18609164]

>>18609110

Well, from my head I would ask for Cassier. He is the guy that followed Kant most autistically so I think he deserves some respect. I will read the book on Frege, sounds cool.

[Anonymous No.18609194]

S stands for Spinoza
>>18597513
Based

[Anonymous No.18609238]

>>18609159
aAre karl jaspers and roland barthes the same person?

[Anonymous No.18609274]

>>18609159
1. Philipp Mainländer
2.Kurt Göde
3.Karl Jaspers
4. Roland Barthes
5.Anaximander
6.antonio negri
7. anthony flew
8.Jiddu Krishnamurti
9. Alvin Plantinga
10. emile durkheim
11.Al-Asmaʿi (?)

[Anonymous No.18609277]

>>18608864
putting Spinoza in anything less than A should be a crime. I agree on everything else though, even though I'm not a huge Wittgenstein fan

[Anonymous No.18609278]

>>18609110

Oh, also that other British idealist that had a real funny name and proved time does not exist.

[Anonymous No.18609294]

>>18609159
>>18609274
12. felix-guttari
13. Antisthenes
14. Gaston Bachelard
15. hypatia
16. Miyamoto Musashi (?)
17.marquis de sade

[Anonymous No.18609331]

>>18609159
>>18609274
>>18609294
18. Marshall McLuhan
19 .Michael Dummett
20. saul kripke
21. Al-Ghazali
22. giordano bruno
23. Pierre Bourdieu
24. seneca
25. thomas nagel
26. Jean François Lyotard
27. Zygmunt Bauman
28. Claude Lévi-Strauss
29. Rumi
30.Vladimir Solovyov
31. Martha Nussbaum

[Anonymous No.18609743]

>>18609277
Pantheism is gae thats why

[Anonymous No.18609760]

>>18609159
Didnt realise that Goedel was 2, and i knew he was familiar
Same for Durkheim

[Anonymous No.18609841]

>s tier
thinking for yourself
>other tiers
useful in showing all the ways humans have looked for answers and been wrong over the years, or more rarely found some ways of thinking that can be useful

[Anonymous No.18609992]

>>18604028
>t. Someone who has a pathology Freud described to a t

[Anonymous No.18610001]

I am too based for this board

[Anonymous No.18610037]

>>18610001
Ah I forgot Bruno, but I would put him in the Great Guys category

[Anonymous No.18610128]

[Anonymous No.18610429]

>>18610001
>Diogenes
>Pretty Lame
You almost had it

[Anonymous No.18610701]

>>18610429
The Stoics and the Cynics aren't my thing, although I've only read Whether the Life of a Cynic is Preferred as far as Cynical texts go.

[Anonymous No.18610814]

>>18599400
If you like Machiavelli, then you'll like John Stuart Mill's utilitarianism. The guy perfected the art of means vs. ends.

[Anonymous No.18611081]

>>18609992
Nice projection faggot

[Anonymous No.18611441]

S - mishima

F - dazai

t. Mishima

[Anonymous No.18612144]

>>18609743
Spinoza's ideas and method were very revolutionary for that time. I find it hard to feel anything special while reading him

[Anonymous No.18613013]

bump

[Anonymous No.18613032]

sorry just passing through the answer sheet

[Anonymous No.18613058]

>>18611441
>きらいなら、来なけりゃいいじゃねえか
>やっぱり好きなんだよな。なあ、やっぱり好きなんだ
Mishima on suicide watch

[CEO OF PHILOSOPHY No.18613321]

Official list just dropped:

[Anonymous No.18614639]

>>18613321
Not bad, Heidegger and Husserl should be higher.

[Anonymous No.18615173]

>>18613321
Are you the Bradley anon from earlier? Nice list.

[Anonymous No.18615247]

>>18613321
>Heidegger and Freud that low
>Hobbes and Locke that high

[Anonymous No.18615531]

>>18615173

thank you dude.

>>18615247

I would put Freud lower if I could. Also I just said that Heidegger is overrated, not that he is bad, what seems to me pretty fair. Locke had a shit ton of original ideas and some are ultra influential till today(distinction between primary and secundary qualities, inverted color spectrum and also his ideas on identity). Hobbes is just cool, I listened to his books by audio on YouTube and they are just really cool.(same with Bacon).