Fascism in different countries

[Anonymous No.18593338]

Any books to understand Fascism in Greece, Portugal and other states that are not well known for it (i.e. not Italy and not Spain).

[Anonymous No.18593353]

>>18593338
Read about Horthy

[Anonymous No.18593409]

>>18593338
I don't get the comic

[Anonymous No.18593429]

>>18593409
It tackles this idea that Lulberts have about not giving the Government power to restore order in society, because they believe that this power given to said Government could be used against them as well. What they fail to realize is that if one side is using the Government to push their ideology and they themselves don't, that in the end will lose the battle, hence the execution

[Anonymous No.18593430]

>>18593409
Libertarians refuse to use governmental power to stop totalitarian ideologies that take away their freedoms.
In the comic a libertarian is holding fast to his principles moments before he is executed
jfc this isnt hard anon

[Anonymous No.18593440]

>>18593430
Libertarians would use the government if they were actually in power. Any majority automatically starts imposing their ideology when they come to power.

[Anonymous No.18593453]

>>18593440
Libertarians would use the government to cripple it to the point it could no longer do anything because muh freedom.

In reality, Lulberts don't have a moral framework except freedom good, more freedom gooder and thats why they are losing the culture war in the US. Socialism and Fascism are just much more potent ideologies in that regard, because they impose a moralistic stance on their form of governance

[Anonymous No.18593664]

>>18593453
Libertarians do have a moral framework read rothbard or hoppe.

[Anonymous No.18593673]

>>18593664
>Libertarians do have a moral framework read rothbard
The dude who said you can sell your children? Lmao, nice one, now face the wall

[Anonymous No.18593687]

>>18593673
>murderous incel critiquing libertarian morality

[Anonymous No.18593706]

>>18593687

[Anonymous No.18593721]

God I hate this board

[Anonymous No.18593745]

>>18593453
>culture war
Retarded term. The people who control the left control the banks and the media and have for over 100 years. There is no culture war.

[Anonymous No.18593753]

>>18593745
there's a culture genocide

[Anonymous No.18593777]

>>18593673
Why do you think kids should have to stay with parents who don't want them?

[Anonymous No.18593788]

>>18593338
>>18593721
Soucy, French Fascism: The First Wave, 1924–1933 (1985) + French Fascism: The Second Wave, 1933–1939 (1995)

Antliff, Avant-Garde Fascism: The Mobilization of Myth, Art, and Culture in France, 1909–1939 (2007)

Bracher, A History of Political Thought in the Twentieth Century

Payne, A History of Fascism, 1914–1945 (1995)

Orlow, The Lure of Fascism in Western Europe: German Nazis, Dutch and French Fascists, 1933–1939 (2009)

Williamson, The Age of the Dictators: A Study of the European Dictatorships, 1918–53 (2007)

Pauley, Hitler and the Forgotten Nazis: A History of Austrian National Socialism (1981)

Hionidou, Famine and Death in Occupied Greece, 1941–1944 (2006)

Lecoeur, Mussolini’s Greek Island: Fascism and the Italian Occupation of Syros in World War II (2009)

Mazower, Inside Hitler’s Greece: The Experience of Occupation, 1941–1944 (1993)

Koliopoulos and Veremis, Modern Greece: A History since 1821 (2010)

[Anonymous No.18593789]

>>18593664
I read Hoppe, Rothbard, von Mises and Friedmann. Their moral framework breaks down to freedom good, state bad, because state make freedom less. It's really just that veiled by a lot of justification. There is a reason why there will never be a Libertarian society

[Anonymous No.18593805]

>>18593777
>Why do you think kids should have to stay with parents who don't want them?
This has nothing to do with owning your children as property

[Anonymous No.18593811]

>>18593453
I unironically think lolbertarians are right, muh freedoms really is the only sensible political motive. In reality though it doesnt work this way, it's just a carnival of crime, the entire notion of law is basically a big fucking meme, it's all crime. I was actually dumb enough to think there was a better time 'before' for a while but this is just wildly naive

[Anonymous No.18593861]

>>18593409
it's a low IQ bivalency

[Anonymous No.18593888]

>>18593788
Not OP, but thanks bro

[Anonymous No.18593891]

>>18593409
try this

[Anonymous No.18593948]

>>18593788
Solid post lad.

[Anonymous No.18593955]

This is the best book I've read on the subject and it covers a lot of the "lesser known" fascisms.

The Legion of the Archangel Michael (commonly known as the Iron Guard) was definitely the goofiest one, and they ended up getting thrown in a ditch at the hands of the standard right-wing conservative authoritarian government.

[Anonymous No.18594008]

>>18593805
Rothbard explicitly claims this isn't the case. Read: https://mises.org/library/egalitarianism-revolt-against-nature-and-other-essays/html/c/352

[Anonymous No.18594176]

>>18593788
Solid list but
>Koliopoulos and Veremis
are both old school leftie nut-jobs. Veremis doesn't even believe in nations...His "career" was mostly debunking "ethnic myths" like Κρυφό Σχολειό etc

[Anonymous No.18594204]

>>18594176
You got any non pozzed historians who specialize in Greece since the revolution. I am a foreign born Greek and want to learn more about my origins. I can also read Greek if it is not translated

[Anonymous No.18594344]

>>18594204
Well most of the mainstream historians are pozzed. There are some extremely based ones eg Πλεύρης but those are too far right for the average reader. I'm not sure there is a well established middle ground historian at the moment. You are probably better off reading any random Greek historian that wrote before the 60s except Ραφαηλίδης, Βακαλόπουλος, Κορδάτος and the other marxists.

[Anonymous No.18594382]

>>18594204
Also your first order of business would be to read both the Epistoles of Kapodistrias (the first governor before (((they))) assasinated him) and the Memoirs of the revolutionary heroes Κολοκοτρώνης, Φωτάκος, Τερτσέτης, Μακρυγιάννης etc.
They are very based calling out the "allies" for betraying the country again and again. After that for a general view of the Revolution and the aftermath you should read Σπυρίδων Λάμπρου.

[Anonymous No.18594414]

>>18594344
>>18594382

Σου ευχαριστώ, αδελφέ

[Anonymous No.18594599]

>>18593453
Imagine thinking the government is capable of doing something right now.

[Anonymous No.18594606]

>>18593673
Yeah because waiting until they're 18 and then selling them to the military for the price of "getting them out of the house" is all very strictly moral and legal and appropriate.

[Anonymous No.18594637]

>>18593440
You seem to be oblivious to Libertarian talking points.
Lucky you.

[Anonymous No.18594721]

>>18593788
thank you

[Anonymous No.18594822]

>>18593673
Selling your children used to be standard practice before liberals started complaining

[Anonymous No.18594848]

>>18593338
I'm portuguese and how tf is fascism not a portuguese thing? We had a fucking dictatorship for decades, you really think those ideas stay asleep forever? Ther rise of Ventura just proves that

[Anonymous No.18594851]

>>18594606
I'm not american so that argument doesn't work with me. I'm from a first world country, no conscription here

[Anonymous No.18594867]

>>18593430
Surely if the libertarian were confronted with any form of totalitarianism, he would use some sort of forceful defense.
>>18593891
A more accurate depiction would have the testudo as a bunch of skinny twenty year olds donating money to some midget with a transvestite porn addiction.

[Anonymous No.18594983]

>>18594848
My brother, I think you misunderstand. I want to learn about countries that had fascism but where it is not known by the general public. Which books can you recommend me about Portuguese Fascism?

[Anonymous No.18594998]

>>18594599
Like lock us down and forbid us to meet with people? Or make protesting illegal? Or make going out after 22:00 illegal? Yeah they did that in Germany

[Anonymous No.18595063]

>>18593788
>Veremis
To the Long Island you go

[Anonymous No.18595102]

>>18594204
>>18594344
Βακαλόπουλος was a nationalist not a marxist. He is the best historian of the Greek Revolution. You will find his works in LibGen
Καργάκος writes very good pop-history too.

Ραφαηλίδης wasn't even a historian, just a commie journalist. Neither is Πλεύρης, as based as he might be.

[Anonymous No.18595131]

>>18593338
Greece neved had an actual fascist movement or government. The Metaxas regime 1936-1940 borrowed from Mussolini and Hitler in terms of aesthetics, but it was more of a petit-bourgeois monarchist dictatorship, without the characteristics of a fascist regime.
I do not know if there is bibliography in english.

[Anonymous No.18595163]

>>18595131
I speak Greek, fren

[Anonymous No.18595225]

>>18595163
Ιωάννης Μεταξάς (Σπύρος Μελάς)

[Anonymous No.18596377]

>>18593440
>Libertarians would use the government if they were actually in power.
Libertarianism can only work when 80% of the population is libertarian. That's why it is not for tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.18596409]

So called "libertarians" are crypto-nazis

[Anonymous No.18596419]

>>18596377
Any ideology works if 80% of the populace aligns themselves with it. An ideology is potent if it can stay in power even though many would disagree, so Neoliberalism is one hell of an Ideology in terms of potency, seeing as most people dislike it and yet it still is in power

[Anonymous No.18596855]

>>18593338
Those weren't fascism.

[Anonymous No.18596863]

>>18593338
Ernest Nolte, Three Faces of Fascism
Check out the work of A. James Gregor as well.

[Anonymous No.18597163]

>>18594204
You should check out the late Kargakos. He wasn't an academic which can be both good and bad... But he has written about every single period in a solid non pozzed old school way.

[Anonymous No.18597307]

>>18596419
Neoliberalism is just Capitalism ideology. I mean, that's what strikes me when i read the wikipedia definition of neoliberalism. You cannot abolish neoliberalism without abolishing Capital.

[Anonymous No.18597507]

>>18593409
Rightists have an insane victim complex even when they hold most of the power. Also so called libertarians are crypto-fascists. Very weasely individuals.