/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.18585607]

Courier Run Edition

Previous Thread:>>18574893

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[Anonymous No.18585611]

Sandersöi

[Anonymous No.18585612]

Take a look of this chart and pick a Self-publish book to buy in support for not only the authors, but also Science Fiction and Fantasy

[Anonymous No.18585614]

Any good novels with a little girl protagonist?

[Anonymous No.18585619]

>>18585614
Please kill yourself my man

[Anonymous No.18585621]

>>18585612
I’m reading drafts of sci fi rn. Why would I bother reading someone’s already edited book? Cucked…

[Anonymous No.18585624]

Why was he so based bros?

[Anonymous No.18585627]

>>18585612
>those covers
no thanks chief... except maybe Trysmoon

[Anonymous No.18585637]

>>18585612
is self publishing a good idea?

[Anonymous No.18585647]

Do the Hugos still have any relevance or have they lost whatever worth they once had as a pointer towards standout works? I couldn't help but notice there hasn't been a single straight man in the running for three years now in the novel category. It's all women now plus one lone fag in 2019.

[Anonymous No.18585650]

Is this the best series of the past 30 years?

[Anonymous No.18585652]

>>18585647
Hasn't been good in 50 or 60 years.
Just went from one stupid demographic to another.

[Anonymous No.18585657]

>>18585637
Not if you have alternatives, but you may find that you have no alternative. Traditional publishing is a women's business now.

[Anonymous No.18585669]

>>18585607
>Courier Run Edition
Snow Crash, my japanese niggers

[Anonymous No.18585673]

>>18585657
so as a straight white male are my chances of getting traditionally published diminished?

[Anonymous No.18585679]

>>18585611
>Sandersöi
Scott, if you're here today please make Sândērsöí a nonman mansion in the next book

[Anonymous No.18585684]

>>18585673
Yes. At least if you want your passion project to get published. If you just want get published for the sake of having been published, you could always try to larp as a queer and write accordingly.

[Anonymous No.18585685]

>>18585673
Just go the self-publish route. Everyone is starting to realize that traditionally published is a meme now and the only people who still believe in it are the pseuds who are in a state of denial about it.

[Anonymous No.18585691]

>>18585685
how do you market if you're self publishing?

[Anonymous No.18585696]

>>18585691
By being active on social media and building a following.

[Anonymous No.18585697]

>>18585696
dammit i hate social media

[Anonymous No.18585698]

>>18585691
>4chan ads
>spamming your shitty book with typos
>memeing yourself
Why wouldn’t you want to self publish?

[Anonymous No.18585702]

>>18585698
>implying piratefags from the 4chinz would ever spent a red cent on a random novel

[Anonymous No.18585703]

>>18585698
seems like it could easily backfire

[Anonymous No.18585717]

>>18585697
As you should, but unfortunately it's the major gateway for breaking into the media and entertainment biz without relying on traditional support structures. Every retard who knows how to operate Twitter or Instagram is essentially self-publishing already, even if only on the lowest level. The next step from there is scaling up and then monetization.

[Anonymous No.18585731]

Eärwa... home...

[Anonymous No.18585781]

>>18585612
I can just picture the authors of those book, either fat and sweaty fedora wearing, anime watchers. Or Chudds.

[Anonymous No.18585796]

FUCK YOU BAKKER STOP MAKING ME HAVE TO LOOK UP WORDS
It's like this cunt sat there with thesaurus and deliberately used less common words for shit that already has a word

[Anonymous No.18585801]

>>18585781
How mentally boomer do you have to be to use "anime watchers" as a derogative? Thanks to netflix, everyone and their mother watches anime nowadays. It's like sneering at "video gamers".
>>18585796
>deliberately used less common words for shit that already has a word
That's not how it works. No two words have the same sense. Look up Frege's work on Sense and Reference.

[Anonymous No.18585805]

>>18585607
>Discord
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>Book Club Selection
Galactic North
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/89188.Galactic_North

> With eight short stories and novellas--including three original to this collection--Galactic North imparts the centuries-spanning events that have produced the dark and turbulent world of Revelation Space.

[Anonymous No.18585813]

>>18585607
>Cool cyberpunk landscape
>Weebs: "..."

>Cool cyberpunk landscape with a crudely draw moe blob standing somewhere.
>Weebs: "SUGOOOOOI! KAWAIIIIII!" (=^ ◡ ^=)

[Anonymous No.18585824]

>>18585813

[Anonymous No.18585831]

>>18585673
Don't listen to the doomers. Most of those female authors write romance. The anons are abusing statistics to create a skewed image.
It's sort of like how in video games women make a slight majority. Until you take away casual shit like candy crush and farm sims.
There are different audiences for different genres. For fantasy and sci-fi, male authors are still dominant. But that won't necessarily make it easier for you. You still have to find a way to distinguish yourself above thousands of others trying to get their works published.

[Anonymous No.18585876]

>>18585673
A better way to think of it is that if you're a woman who writes shlock, your odds of being published greatly increase. The literary market is seriously roaring. The chief thing that constrains most would-be writers is either that they are autistic and cannot work with editors, or that what they want to write about is so niche that there is no market for it.

[Anonymous No.18585879]

>>18585831
>For fantasy and sci-fi, male authors are still dominant.
See >>18585647
There hasn't been a male author nominated for the premier fantasy and sci-fi award in two years. There has been no straight male author nominated in three. No man has won the Novel award since 2015 and no white man since 2013. The Nebula Awards, while not quite as lopsided, paint a similar picture. No man has won their Novel award since 2015 either and nominees are always mostly or, for this year, entirely women. Women now dominate publishing and writing on every level and across all genres and they get to decide which works get to be at the forefront. Any man trying to break into the industry in the current day will face an extreme uphill battle, even if he was the only man left making the attempt.

[Anonymous No.18585955]

>>18585879
All awards are useless pageantry. Every last one. Even if the awards were dominated by men, I would still say "these men are the ones that are more favored by the award's committee. But not necessarily indicative of the overall selection of authors."

I want to see distribution of published authors controlled by genre.

[Anonymous No.18586037]

>>18585955
The Hugos have no ordinary awards committee, nominees and winners are decided by popular vote. To be eligible to nominate and vote, all you have to do is cough up a fee of approx 50 bucks. That's the reason why the sad puppies were able to game the system in the first place, before nomination rules were changed to counter organized campaigns. Regardless you can treat the Hugos as a significant sample of the dedicated sci-fi/fantasy readership, even if not quite up to scientific standards to be truly representative. Well over a thousand people nominate works every year and even more people vote. But sure, the fact that a system decided by popular vote has presented not a single straight male nominee in the past three years and generally has been dominated by female nominees for the past decade says absolutely nothing about the state of the industry and community. All just doomposting.

[Anonymous No.18586132]

>>18585801
>How mentally boomer do you have to be to use "anime watchers" as a derogative? Thanks to netflix, everyone and their mother watches anime nowadays. It's like sneering at "video gamers".
"watching anime" is not a problem because it's a fringe activity, it's a problem because it rots your fucking brain. huffing glue would not be any better for you if it became a mainstream past-time. and yes, video games fuck up your brain too. one example of the brain rot you've incurred already is that you apparently think wide-spread phenomena cannot be judged negatively.

[Anonymous No.18586144]

>>18586132
Then what are you doing on an anime website?

[Anonymous No.18586148]

>>18585731
Damn, why didn't the Ordeal just sail up to Agongorea?

[Anonymous No.18586155]

>>18586132
Well, I suppose I should have expected someone with a low IQ like yours to literally be mad at "video gamers" as well. Go on, grandpa, keep shaking your fist at anime watchers and video gamers. Maybe one day society will return to the golden age of clean thought you are convinced was real.

[Anonymous No.18586182]

>>18586037
I see..

>Regardless you can treat the Hugos as a significant sample of the dedicated sci-fi/fantasy readership
Not exactly. Voting eligibility is by those who buy a Worldcon eligibility. And while you don't necessarily have to attend Worldcon, this is still a niche sample.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Worldcons
The largest Worldcon was in 2014. With 6,946 attendants and 10,718 total paid members that year. So the total amount of voter possible for Hugo is 10,718. That's not a large enough sample in my eyes. Especially since good reads boasts over 5M votes for their 2020 awards.

The Hugo voters are going to be skewed toward extroverted personalities. Since most of them are the types to actually attend conventions and schmooze with other fans. There's also the celebrity factor with con goers. They're going to buy into the cult of personality more than your average fan. They see which author is getting more attention at Worldcon and another social platforms, and they become swayed to support these people. Not because they think these authors are the best, but because they can't not think of these people who are saturated in the media.

But let's say I give you the advantage and agree that Hugo voters are a significant measure. I would still say that the Hugos only measure who the audience showers with appreciation, and not necessarily who is getting published. I would still insist on an actual count of authors controlled by genre and sex.

[Anonymous No.18586205]

>>18586037
I find most Hugo books to be decent, although the last I really loved was Red Shirts.

It doesn't have the absolute best stuff IMO though. Alistair Reynolds is really great and was never nominated I believe, but I think his books will hang around for awhile.

I guess the Darkness That Comes Before is only sci-fi in its very peripheral elements but that's been the best genre fiction I've read and it didn't get nominated for much.

I'm surprised pic related isn't more popular. Kind of a better Hunger Games/Ender's Game type academy/arena story that expands after the first volume into a highly entertaining Game of Thrones like sci-fi world building series, but also has the pacing of a thriller.

Definitely not great literature, but honestly the most entertaining story I've read in years (more than Bakker's second series, which drags a bit, or Game of Thrones, which has shitty Bran chapters and drags in the later books at points).

I guess Brown has the problem of dealing with the fact that it was originally edited down for a YA audience and he had a kind of goofy premise. However, you get over the goofey premise and start to enjoy the action pretty quickly, sort of like how Old Man's War is humorous in the first volume, and gets serious in the second.

Also like the Bobiverse books. Pretty goofy, non-literary sci-fi. Reminds me a lot of Star Trek TNG since it is all discovery, problem solving, and relationships, not so much action.

[Anonymous No.18586274]

>>18585650
Gentlemen, a new spammer has entered the thread. Kindly do the needful.

[Anonymous No.18586280]

>>18585731
What an absolute shithole.
A nice seaside villa on the coast of Conriya, Cironj, Nilnamesh or Zëum wouldn’t be the worst, though.

[Anonymous No.18586291]

>>18586148
The nonmen tried that already and got royally fucked. See battle of Pir Imogirion.

[Anonymous No.18586292]

>>18586274
> new

[Anonymous No.18586352]

>>18585283
It's too painful to look into the mirror, anon.

[Anonymous No.18586400]

>>18586205
Consider me sold

[Anonymous No.18586560]

I.
SMELL.

[Anonymous No.18586577]

>>18586148
They would have needed the Zeumi niggers to cooperate. I'm curious to see how the No-God will deal with Zeum. Invading the place seems impossible. Also, is the No-God autonomous or do the Dunyain control it?

[Anonymous No.18586578]

didn't get a reply to a question last thread so just repostin it here:

hey guys, need a rec for good sci-fi. w sci-fi i think literally the only thing i've ever enjoyed was william gibson, read snow crash and was baffled by how dumb and 90s-quirky it was.
what i like about neuromancer is (a) the precise, razor's edge prose cribbed from noir pulp shit mixed with (b) a pynchon-lite onslaught of cultural signifiers that threaten the formal authority of the narrative. imo an incredible conceptual retooling of genre tropes, and also doesn't act as a shitty philosophical treatise with a shittier story duct-taped to it like a lot of other sci-fi. so is there anything else that hits a similar sweet-spot of prose and form which don't have a totally autistic relationship to the narrative?

[Anonymous No.18586580]

>>18585702
F Gardner already makes hella cash. That’s only from one sale or day or whatever.

>>18585703
Google “Chuck Tingle”

[Anonymous No.18586595]

>>18586560
Skuthula is black and has legs like a centipede. How pointless that battle was? Also, why didn't any sorcerer shoot down the No-God? No chorae!

[Anonymous No.18586597]

>>18586182
>actual count of authors controlled by genre and sex
Doesn't exist. Closest approximation is New York Times bestsellers controlled by genre and sex, which may be skewed too. After all bestsellers are only a fraction of all books published. And SFF accounts only for a fraction of NYT bestsellers at that. On the face of it seems to support your argument more than the opposing one though. Source: https://pudding.cool/2017/06/best-sellers/

[Anonymous No.18586687]

>>18585781
>hates anime
>hates right wingers

Nigga, where do you think you are?
Maybe try Reddit?

[Anonymous No.18586710]

>>18586205
Also enjoyed Red Rising tremendously, but the first book might be a big filter considering it reads a bit like YA Hunger Games. Heard there's 4th book now, gonna re-read the series in the future.

Bobiverse was a nice sci-fi to me, but maybe because I don't like the genre (or maybe just don't read any sci-fi books). It's a bit autistic, the writting is clunky af, and has myriads of simplifications and plot-holes, but overall enjoyable, even though multi-timeline storytelling was painful.
Tried the fourth book in the series, read a half of it, then never opened it again, boring and uninteresting.

[Anonymous No.18586732]

>>18586687
Stop trying so hard to fit in.

[Anonymous No.18586736]

>>18586597
Seeing that chart feels somewhat validating, I have to admit. But I'd still want the data. It feels like something someone should keep track of. But oh well, I'm not going to bother looking for it. And I'm not going to bother you for it either.

[Anonymous No.18586739]

>>18585650
Fuck off Sarah.

[Anonymous No.18586768]

>>18586597
What happened with spy/politics.


Seems like most genres have had a pretty stagnant sex ratio.

[Anonymous No.18586866]

Who edited the Unholy Consult?

This shit is full of typos there's even a part where Kelmomas PoV jumps straight to Mimara's without even breaking section.

Did any one noticed this as well?

[Anonymous No.18586954]

>>18586866
By that point, Bakker had got into drama with the publisher, so they probably half assed the editing.

[Anonymous No.18586959]

>>18585624
He would have watched anime.

[Anonymous No.18586966]

>>18586205
Why do you put a space between each and every sentence?

[Anonymous No.18586980]

> According to Akamis, Pim told of a trip accross Gedea that took the Aspect-Emperor and his travel court accross the legendary Plains of Mengedda. In the deep of the night, near the end of his watch, Pim found Anasurimbor Kellhus alone and raving on the haunted plain, alternately removing his head and replacing it with one of the Decapitants.

What the actual fuck. Something to do with Ajokli? What was up with Kellhus removing his heart anyway?

[Anonymous No.18586992]

>>18586768
Fuck that. I want to know how woman absolutely DOMINATED history. What the hell is going on there?

[Anonymous No.18587025]

>>18586992
those are just romance novels in disguise

[Anonymous No.18587033]

>>18585796
Filtered.

[Anonymous No.18587079]

Fuck E William Brown
Fuck Excuse
Fuck Delays
Fuck Push Backs
Fuck Pay Walls
Fuck Pay Pigs
Fuck Incommunicado
Fuck Not Keeping your promises
Fuck Being a Full Time Author and Not releasing shit

[Anonymous No.18587139]

What are some patrician books where the MC romances the main antagonist

[Anonymous No.18587151]

>>18586595
Serwa is my waifu, so I enjoyed it immensely. It was my second favorite sequence in the book, after Minshoa's descent to the Intrinsic Gate. As for why no one blasted Mog-Pharau, Bakker said in an AMA that it was due to pure shock and horror. Everyone, including the sorcerers, just shit themselves and ran. This is speculation on my part, but I'm fairly certain that was the whole point behind the Kellhus hologram. Remember, these are Dûnyain running the show now, so they probably realized they needed a way of breaking the Ordeal and stalling for time until the Horde gets there with Chorae. They probably knew Project Bluebeam would do the trick. There was also a line about the Carapace being too high, beyond the reach of any Cants. So overall, it just wasn't on anyone's mind.

[Anonymous No.18587170]

>>18586954
What a shame.

[Anonymous No.18587216]

>>18586687
>>hates right wingers
Those came from rebbit and stormfag, so people being here means they don't like /pol/lies also there is a board for you waifu faggets >>>/a?

[Anonymous No.18587398]

>>18586578
That's a pretty specific request, to the point where you're far better off doing the research yourself and sampling what looks good. The good thing about Sci-Fi, especially the older stuff, is that it's usually quite short.

Probably the reason nobody responded to you last thread is because we could either give you a list of the classics you could find literally anywhere on the internet, or give you something that half resembles what you requested and you'll be disappointed it isn't precisely what Neuromancer was like.

When you say things like "the only thing I've enjoyed is x" but not specified what you didn't like, people will be more hesitant to rec something because you give us a single book you liked, nothing you didn't, and then a hyper-specific description of what you want using vague, subjective descriptors.

[Anonymous No.18587692]

Does it trouble you, Anon?
>D-does what… trouble me?
To know the Survivor burns in hell.

[Anonymous No.18587700]

>>18587692
>implying they feel Hell

lol

[Anonymous No.18587744]

Ordered Lord of Light and am going to read The Chronicles of Amber soon. Need to finish The Bane of the Black Sword and Stormbringer first.

What was the last book you bought, anon?

[Anonymous No.18587751]

>>18587744
bought?

[Anonymous No.18587769]

>>18587751
Bought, as in purchased, as in payed money for, as in acquired an actual physical copy through legal means.

[Anonymous No.18587776]

>>18587769
uhh
I think I bought a hardcover copy of the foundation trilogy 5 years back

[Anonymous No.18587785]

Why did Kellhus suffer Esmenet?

[Anonymous No.18587787]

>>18587776
Dude, what the hell? Have you converted to pirating/e-readers?

[Anonymous No.18587801]

>>18587744
>What was the last book you bought, anon?

This shit.

[Anonymous No.18587803]

>>18587787
well, I only started reading on my e-reader 3 years ago
I just stopped for a while when my shelf started running out of space

[Anonymous No.18587825]

>>18587801
I'm doing him and Malazan after I'm done with Zelazny, did you like Sanderson?

>>18587803
I see. Why not clean it a little and see how much useless shit you have there?

[Anonymous No.18587830]

>>18587825
well it's all books, and I don't really want to throw them away
they look aesthetic as fuck

[Anonymous No.18587832]

>>18587825
>did you like Sanderson?

[Anonymous No.18587852]

>>18587700
The Dûnyain, despite their autism, feel and fear Hell. Else, why would the Five have bothered to take over the Consult and initiate Resumption?

>>18587785
He was in love with that thang in his giga-autistic vestigial-emotional way.

>K-Pain - I'm In Love With A Harlot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKcr5vkOxNs

[Anonymous No.18587878]

>>18587852
>He was in love with that thang in his giga-autistic vestigial-emotional way.

I'm simply not buying this. There is always another use

[Anonymous No.18587979]

>>18587878
Remember the part in TTT where she slips walking near a battlement and he's like "w-what is this e-emotion I am feeling?" Dude was pussy whipped. He didn't need to teleport back to Momemn to save her, but he did anyway. He didn't need to allow her to free Kelmomas, but he did, thus dooming the Ordeal and the World. Maybe it was the Meat... maybe she was born with it.

[Anonymous No.18588007]

>>18587692
I thought he hit Oblivion.

>>18587979
>>18587878
It's legit depressing to imagine Kellhus becoming a simp like that.

[Anonymous No.18588019]

>>18585796
>for shit that already has a word
It’s called a synonym

[Anonymous No.18588039]

>>18586037
>To be eligible to nominate and vote, all you have to do is cough up a fee of approx 50 bucks.
That basically excludes normal people from voting then. Even most rabid fans wouldn't do that, it would mainly be retards who think they're getting behind some semi-important social issue.

[Anonymous No.18588057]

>>18588007
One of the most touching moments of the entire series for me is when he shows any sort of compassion towards Proyas. There is something truly touching about it. I think that his visions of hell changed him.

[Anonymous No.18588095]

>>18588057
The kindest thing he ever did for the Selfrighteous-King of Conriya was to keep him from hell for a few extra hours. So compassionate, so touching, yes...
Did he give him extra lube for that BDC?

[Anonymous No.18588100]

>>18587825
Did you like Sanderson?

he ripped the pages out and tore them up for a bait picture

[Anonymous No.18588106]

>>18587801
>Getting filtered by Sanderson

[Anonymous No.18588117]

>>18588057
haha yeah like when he fucking rapes Proyas, very wholesome

For me, it's when Akka is asking him to spare Proyas, asking him to basically leave one loose thread, and Kellhus responds by saying that Akka IS the one loose thread he had moved himself to spare. Either that, or Serwa's last conversation with Sorweel, where she's saying they can't be together. Maybe I've fallen for the Dûnyain manipulation (in fact, I almost definitely have, since she never thinks about Sorweel again after he's killed), but it really does feel like she genuinely loved him.

[Anonymous No.18588119]

I still don't understand why people keep claiming that Esmi plotted to kill Kellhus

Can someone explain this to me?

[Anonymous No.18588128]

>>18587151
>tfw no autistic hypermanipulative Anasûrimbor gf

[Anonymous No.18588161]

>>18588106
>Getting baited by old pasta

[Anonymous No.18588170]

>>18588119
She literally asked the White Luck Warrior to kill him, and then she freed Kelmomas, knowing he was probably gonna go try and avenge himself.
>>18588128
Bros, that's all I want in life...

[Anonymous No.18588185]

>tfw no big-budget seven-season Hollywood/Netflix adaptation of Bakker's books
why even live bros

[Anonymous No.18588190]

>>18588170
Dude what? All she asked of the WLW was for him to kill Maithanet

[Anonymous No.18588206]

>>18588185
Better this way. They are doing the Wheel of Time now and I can guarantee you that that shit will give us a lot of material to laugh at here.

[Anonymous No.18588209]

>>18588119
She fucking asked the White Luck Warrior to kill him. She also freed Kelmomas, knowing that he'd probably go fuck over Kellhus. That thot literally caused the Second Apocalypse.
>>18588128
Bros... That's all I want in life...

[Anonymous No.18588234]

>>18588185
As hard as that chick on YouTube got filtered, she's right in that basically every character (except Achamian) is fucking unlikable for the average normie. Normies also don't wanna watch the main female characters get raped every two episodes. So, either it would fail, or they'd have to make such ridiculous changes that it would be unrecognizable.

[Anonymous No.18588248]

>>18588234
People wouldn't hate Proyas.

[Anonymous No.18588259]

Anyone know anything about the actual pages books uses?
I have a paperback book that's got these slightly yellow pages that feel softer and easier on the hand
and another one that's got these white pages that feels more akin to what you'd find in a printer A4 paper that's slicker and firmer

do these have a names?
is there a specification I should look for that indicates what kind of paper a book uses?

[Anonymous No.18588283]

>>18588117
Being only half-Dûnyain, Serwa was much more susceptible to human emotions and frailty. From what I gather, she did genuinely have feelings for him, and grieved when he got Kel’d.

[Anonymous No.18588298]

>>18588234
For some reason I think the second series, despite all the cannibal murderrape, is more accessible to normies than the first series. The Anasûrimbor family drama is practically daytime soap opera tier.

[Anonymous No.18588309]

>>18588259
I had an infographic that had a good explanation, basically some printing paper has acid and/or bleach to help it's neutral color and ability to hold ink.

I think the issue with the paper thay yellows is that ink can fade as well, but more true color paper is rigid and rips easily

[Anonymous No.18588325]

the blade trilogy really gets boring after the first one

[Anonymous No.18588336]

>>18588298
As much as I've loved the second series, the last book(s) especially, nothing comes even close to the pure Iliadic adventure of the first trilogy.

[Anonymous No.18588347]

>>18588309
interesting
I like the feeling and smell of the yellow pages so much more than the white ones

[Anonymous No.18588362]

Bakker, Sanderson, Abercrombie, and GRRM awaken in a room. The door is locked and will not open until there is only one man left standing. They can fight to the death, or attempt to work together to escape the Cube. What would happen?

[Anonymous No.18588374]

>>18588039
Con goers aren't normal people? The 50 bucks are an entrance fee for that year's world con.

[Anonymous No.18588436]

>>18588362
Gurm dies from a heart attack 5 minutes in. This leaves the other three with a supply of flesh that may last them a year if they have the means to preserve it. Whoever eats it will instantly contract terminal diabetus however. It's now a battle of endurance of who can fast the longest.

[Anonymous No.18588478]

>>18588117
>>18588095
I don't understand your passive aggressive irony. Kellhus is a monster by all accounts and you have to be a fucking retard to think otherwise.

[Anonymous No.18588493]

>>18588347
Most people do too, there was a comfort level about explaining each type of paper and that type of paper, I think it's nonbleach, acid-free small fine paper or something, was the best paper for comfort. I can't find the image so I'm going off memeory

[Anonymous No.18588505]

>>18588436
Sanderson is a mormon, homie fasts once a month, so he'd probably last the longest without eating, but the double edge to that is he would feel morally repulsed to feed on Georges ample back side to survive, and would die if the other didn't die first.

[Anonymous No.18588534]

any good recs for someone with mommy issues?

[Anonymous No.18588572]

>>18588534
The Awakening

[Anonymous No.18588609]

>>18588534

[Anonymous No.18588636]

any of you guys read this or any of jack harper's other books? are they any good?

[Anonymous No.18588679]

>>18588100
Oh, that explains the previous reply. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.18588689]

>>18588572
I don't think is these types of mother issues he is talking about.

[Marshall No.18588726]

>>18588362
Abercrombie kills em all because he is king

[Marshall No.18588738]

Sanderson is king

[Anonymous No.18588782]

>>18588689
Cum in your mom

[Anonymous No.18588784]

>>18588534
I will second this, as the degenerate I am.

[Anonymous No.18588876]

>>18588248
Not until something must be eaten. Although I don't think he'd have too many fans, due to how he treats Achamian.
>>18588478
I agree with you, retard.

[Anonymous No.18588899]

>>18588876
Theyd like him till he sells out Akka to the scarlet spires

[Anonymous No.18589079]

Thoughts on the Witcher series?

[Anonymous No.18589119]

>>18587139
Try google.

[Anonymous No.18589149]

>>18589079
>>>/tv/

[Anonymous No.18589175]

>>18589149
Do you say the same to people asking about lotr, or got, or any other series that’s been televised?

[Anonymous No.18589178]

>>18589175
ignore the newfag

[Anonymous No.18589252]

Having read the first chapter of The Darkness That Comes Before, I have to say... this is the best fantasy book ever written... just... amazing... woah.......

[Anonymous No.18589273]

>>18589175
If they mention the tv show, yes, but you didn't mention the show, so that guy is a fagget.

[Anonymous No.18589295]

>>18589273
This. You can't talk about TV shows here. Anime is allowed, though.

[Anonymous No.18589307]

>>18589295
That isn't allowed either.
If you want to fap to your anime or light manga waifu go to jp or /a/.

[Anonymous No.18589315]

>>18589307
/sffag/ - Science Fiction, Fantasy, and Anime General

[Anonymous No.18589330]

>>18589315
This is your last (you) from me with regards to this topic. Have a good day and stay safe.

[Anonymous No.18589331]

>>18588283
Best part is how she cucks Cnauir's son. Like father like son.

[Anonymous No.18589334]

Just finished Gardens of the Moon and it was pretty cool but the ending was shit and I'm wondering if it's even worth continuing.
>Tyrant is hyped for chapters
>Shows up and dies to an explosive crossbow bolt
>lol now there's a demon lord out of nowhere
>and he's dead
>oh yeah by the way we rebels now

Rushed as fuck.

[Anonymous No.18589335]

>>18589330
Take a joke you dumb faggot.

[Anonymous No.18589344]

>>18589335
>he doesn't realise that there are ppl in here right now with the mentality that sffg is for anime

[Anonymous No.18589348]

>>18589295
Animeniggers will be crucified upside-down.

[Anonymous No.18589357]

>>18589334
Book two is 100 times better than the first one.

Have fun.

[Anonymous No.18589363]

>>18589344
I think that this the /sfFAG/ was enough clue I was joking.

[Anonymous No.18589378]

>>18589363
>still doesn't realise that there are autist who are seriously unironically agreeing with him

[Anonymous No.18589384]

Guys i really need your input on this:
What kind of setting do you prefer when thinking about a post apocalyptic world with low tech?

I personally can't get away from the dusty semi desert version of fallout, a canticle for liebowitz, mad max etc etc. To me, this is the setting for this kind of post apocalypse, but recently i've been confronted with it being unoriginal. And i know it is unoriginal, but it still is kinda... i mean, to me it's kinda like trying to make a western set in europe.

I know there are other settings that could be a cool form of post apocalypse, say a foresty overgrown europe, but it just isn't the same thing.
Thoughts anyone?

[Anonymous No.18589389]

>>18589384
Low Tech, High Magic?

[Anonymous No.18589390]

>>18589378
I know they are. That's what I said it, because it's relevant. He responded seriously so I gave him the hint I was joking and he didn't get it. Oh well.

[Anonymous No.18589453]

>>18589384
Almost any setting will do as long as it's fairly close in time to the apocalypse, so that clear remnants and reminders of the destroyed civilization's bygone glory remain. I'm not fond of post-apocalyptic settings in the far future when people have built something new and lasting from the ashes. Doesn't have the proper post-apocalyptic feel to it that way. People in the post-apocalypse should be stragglers who escaped immediate death but are reduced to scavenging the corpse of the old world that can only detoriate further and never be rebuilt.

[Anonymous No.18589458]

>>18589315
Based.

[Anonymous No.18589475]

>>18588876
>something must be eaten
"You *fed* them? Proyas, what else would you do?"

[Anonymous No.18589478]

>>18589315
This but unironically

[Anonymous No.18589481]

>>18589478
devil woman

[Anonymous No.18589488]

>>18585657
What is stopping a new writer from larping as a black man or a woman in order to get published.

If Jane Austen did it why can't I?

[Anonymous No.18589491]

>>18589478
Kys weeb

[Anonymous No.18589499]

>>18585647
The Hugo’s got exposed a looong time ago.

Look up “sad puppies Hugo award”
Long story short, it’s a super woke crowd that gives themselves awards, and they even invented an award category so one of the “in crowd” could win.

It’s more political than oscars

[Anonymous No.18589504]

>>18589389
no magic. realistic, with the exception of the post apocalyptic part.

[Anonymous No.18589514]

>>18589453
ok, but no preference in dusty/foresty i take it?
(sorry for spammin the thread, i should've answered both you guys in the same post)
I completely agree with you on what the essense of post apocalypse is.

[Anonymous No.18589524]

>>18589488
People will have an easier time to somehow find out your identity and make it widely known than in Jane Austen's day. You can larp as a faggot though, or better yet as nonbinary or some such bullshit. Will be hard to call you out on that even in the event your identity was uncovered.

[Anonymous No.18589549]

>>18589488
>>18589524
Also, larping solves only part of the problem. The other problem is the pressure for ideological conformity. Even if you fool your publisher into thinking that you're a translesbian disabled nigger, they don't want to publish works that aren't on board with the progressive agenda. E.g. you'll have to include positive LGBT representation even if you don't want to, all that jazz.

[Anonymous No.18589553]

>>18585801
The anime I've seen has been the most soulless empty drivel.
The aesthetic is also just creepy and weird.

[Anonymous No.18589566]

>>18587398
that’s a good point, will do my research, thanks bud

[Anonymous No.18589581]

>>18589514
I may have a slight preference for some forest overgrowth because I'm an outdoors man. But a dusty abandoned concrete jungle will work just as well. It's all about the atmosphere of irreversible detoriation of what once was.

[Anonymous No.18589636]

>>18589581
thanks for the input, anon!
That image, war or just abandoned?

[Anonymous No.18589662]

>>18589636
Just abandoned. It's a shot of Hashima Island. The Japanese used to mine coal there and when the coal ran out, everyone packed up and left.

[Anonymous No.18589761]

>>18589504
I'm burnt out on low tech, but I'm always an autist for survival.
Read up on surviving in the wood, have your characters live off the land. Like in Lucifer's Hammer.

[Anonymous No.18589778]

>>18589488
The issue is not getting published, per se, but rather getting positive coverage and support from within the industry, which demands you to have connections, and the "being obvious member of minority or oppressed group" is more a underlying element of virtue signaling of the publisher rather than a core aspect of the entry into the market ie you can be gay black transgender straight out of Detroit, but unless you kiss the right feet and pay homage to the "proper" beliefs and ideas, you won't get shit.

[Anonymous No.18589886]

>>18586710
4th Red Rising is the slowest of all of them. It has some good points, but introduces new POV characters who take awhile to get going.

That said, book 5 is hands down my favorite and is killer from start to finish and even the boringest new POV character gets great.

[Anonymous No.18589902]

>>18585731
I'm in the middle of book 7 and I hope the Consult kills Khellus at this point. He's such a fucking psychopath.

[Anonymous No.18589923]

>>18589902
It honestly astounds me that there are people who think Khellus is the hero of The Darkness That Comes Before. Its ambiguous to some degree, but by the end of the third book I am pretty sure he is supposed to be the villain.

[Anonymous No.18589960]

can anyone help? I remember reading a short story years ago somewhere-it was about a diplomat from the moon visiting earth and running into problems with the gravity. It's driving me nuts and search engines aren't helping at all

[Anonymous No.18590069]

>>18589488
>AND THE WINNER IS TYRONE D'BRICKASHAW
>TYRONE D'BRICKASHAW
>... COULD WE GET TYRONE D'BRICKASHAW UP TO THE STAGE!

[Anonymous No.18590118]

What separates humans from robots? Creativity, emotions, empathy, what is it?

[Anonymous No.18590157]

>>18590118
>>>/his/

[Anonymous No.18590160]

>>18590069
kek

>>18590118
the ability to shitpost with glee

[Anonymous No.18590166]

>>18585612
Fuuuck THAT

[Anonymous No.18590167]

>>18590118
our mortality

[Anonymous No.18590171]

>>18590118
Humans exist. Robots do not.

[Anonymous No.18590197]

Opinions on Piranesi? Any good? It's written by a womb so I'm hesitant but the setting seems interesting.

[Anonymous No.18590199]

>>18590197
Read it and find out, why are you asking us?

[Anonymous No.18590205]

Give me a random developed city or country, having some issues with something
>>18590118
Logic style.
Machines would come across as deranged if you were to exaggerate their real working into something sapient.

[Anonymous No.18590229]

>>18590118
Mortality, modes of communication

[Anonymous No.18590369]

I want to get into Arthurian Legend novels. What would you recommend?

[Anonymous No.18590395]

>>18590197
Go outside, touch some grass, then you should be able to read it.

[Anonymous No.18590413]

>>18590197
It looks really interesting to me, I haven't read it though. I've pre-ordered the paperback though. I could have gotten the hardback but I'm an autistic trade paperback purist. I'd say give it a go.

[Anonymous No.18590428]

>>18585647
they're best as a reference point for works up til the 2000s/2010s

when you have diversity wins like niggo kong jemisin winning multiple years in a row despite being a shit writer it's a sign the award has degraded

ofc the MSM and plebbit defend this shit to the bitter end, the "It'S a FaN cHoSeN aWaRd!' being shilled(you have to pay to vote, and they've changed shit up since the puppies rustled the jimmies of the cabal)

It's funny how GRRM was an ardent defender of the woke diversity over all crowd, and they still cancelled him for having the audacity to mispronounce names in a shocking act of blatant white supremacist violence

I feel like there's no modern sci fi worth a shit, dunno about fantasy as much but it's prob not doing much better

[Anonymous No.18590523]

>>18589488
>>18589778
>>18590069

just pull a chuck tingle and get some attention whore to accept your award if you win

these people don't understand nuance, you could write a biting satire and if you're supposedly a disabled black trans muslim otherkin they can't say shit

bonus points if you claim you're from a country that kills such people-even trying to out an iraqi author would be a gigantic no no

[Anonymous No.18590577]

>>18590428
>they still cancelled him for having the audacity to mispronounce names
Source? Could use the laugh. Not that the fatass is likely to care. He got his riches, so what does it matter to him if the entire field burns to the ground.

[Anonymous No.18590609]

>>18590428

>I feel like there's no modern sci fi worth a shit

I've enjoyed The Expanse and Greg Egan's novels.

[Anonymous No.18590779]

>>18589553
You've been watching the wrong sort then.

[Anonymous No.18590817]

>Callender is Black, queer, trans, and uses they/them and he/him pronouns.
>Callender's young adult debut, This is Kind of an Epic Love Story, was nominated for a 2019 Lambda Literary Award in the category LGBTQ* Children's/Young Adult.
>Their second young adult novel, Felix Ever After, is about a transgender teen who catfishes a classmate for revenge and ends up falling for him
>Their adult debut, Queen of the Conquered, is set in a Caribbean-inspired world and tells the story of a black protagonist fighting back against colonizers.
This is the current face of the World Fantasy Award. Please say something nice about them.

[Anonymous No.18590829]

>>18590817
good for him for finding a way to exploit the world

[Anonymous No.18590847]

>>18590829
>him

[Anonymous No.18590852]

>>18590847
>and he/him pronouns.
yes?

[Anonymous No.18590861]

>>18590852
It's a tranny, that is, a girl playing pretend

[Anonymous No.18590864]

>>18590861
eh, works for me
I call everyone using male pronouns

[Anonymous No.18590921]

>>18590817
They're a published author.

[Anonymous No.18591157]

>This weeks episode of No Such Thing as a Fish discusses a work by Jack Vance
>mostly to make fun of one of his books for having a funny title (Servants of the Wankh)
aaah

AAAAASDFS

[Anonymous No.18591166]

>>18591157
what?

[Anonymous No.18591285]

>>18590413
Another paperback man. Too bad hard covers are too heavy and bulky to enjoy reasonably.

[Anonymous No.18591296]

Reminder that is the current year and sexism in fantasy literature will NOT be tolerated.

[Anonymous No.18591301]

>>18591296
File name. Absolute madman

[Anonymous No.18591376]

>>18591296
Esmenet hit a little close to home, huh?

[Anonymous No.18591406]

>>18591296
What if I like sexism and want more of it in the fantasy I read?

[Anonymous No.18591420]

>>18590577
archive.is/RPo1i

this is why you never cater to these people-they'll eat you alive no matter what

[Anonymous No.18591455]

>>18591406

[Anonymous No.18591472]

>>18591455
Alright, these whiny faggots are pushing me into reading it. It must actually be pretty good, considering the shills here, and the mentally unstable reviewers.

[Anonymous No.18591500]

>>18590817
>Caribbean inspired world

i bet there's no mention of caribs/arawaks/tainos/etc-just more nogs

[Anonymous No.18591511]

>>18591455
...
Meritocracy?

[Anonymous No.18591524]

>>18591420
>Martin opted to repeatedly reference racist figures in the science-fiction community
>The figures Martin referenced included H.P. Lovecraft and John W. Campbell
>The late author and the late editor, respectively, each won a Retro Hugo award this year
You can't make this shit up lmao. Some faggot actually derides him for promoting two people who won Awards at the very same ceremony.

But wait, it gets even better
>In 2019, during their acceptance speech after winning the John W. Campbell Award for Best New Writer, Jeannette Ng called out Campbell as a fascist.
>The 2019 speech itself won Ng another Hugo on Friday night for 2020’s Best Related Work.
So you are telling me some retarded shit talking speech where the recipient of an Award insulted the person in whose honor it was named, that fucking speech got an Award? Did she give a speech for receiving the Award for giving a speech for receiving an Award? Will she win another Award for that new speech too maybe? How far down the rabbit hole can we go? Goddamn what a shitshow I'm fucking dying.

[Anonymous No.18591543]

>>18591511
Prolly some soi who learned the word from a podcast.

[Anonymous No.18591587]

>>18591524
They actually renamed the Campbell Award because of her chimp-out. The sci-fi establishment is completely pozzed at this point, like any other mainstream cultural institution.

[Anonymous No.18591831]

>>18591472
It's yet another pretty decent fantasy series that will probably never have an overarching conclusion. At least Bakker has the decency to break it into modules so you can just read Prince of Nothing and consider it done there if you want.

[Anonymous No.18591845]

>>18591831
Why does this happen so often in fantasy?

[Anonymous No.18591894]

>>18591455
What is "midieval"? Is he referring to ebuamsworld midi music?

[Anonymous No.18591900]

>>18591845
Because the only thing worse than a series that wanders into the weeds with no real conclusion is one with a bad conclusion.

[Anonymous No.18591988]

Best sci fi with female main characters?

[Anonymous No.18592010]

>>18586291
>The battle of pier immigration
Bravo Bakker!

[Anonymous No.18592018]

>>18591296
I went on the ASOIAF forums and read some old threads about Bakker and the absolute state of fucking liberals is pretty outlandish.

I'm increasingly certain that they're simply not conscious. Maybe it's just the whole Bakker thing, but at one point one of them was stumbling with the idea of how an entity like a Skin Spy could not have a soul when it's thinking and talking, and I had that sudden horrible realization that this person was probably non-sentient, just a human Chinese Room simulating consciousness to blend in with actual humans.

[Anonymous No.18592031]

>>18591455
Left Wing people are genuinely vermin.

[Anonymous No.18592052]

>>18591988
Darkwar if we can entertain cat wizards vs spaceships. Otherwise Diamond Age. Vernor Cringe and Alastair Reynolds have some interesting books with female protagonists, but they're awful characters.

[Anonymous No.18592121]

>>18592018
take your meds

[Anonymous No.18592150]

>>18589761
Thanks for the answer, anon. I got the setting done, just not the where part... Which kind of affects a whole lot. Yes, there is research to be done...

[Anonymous No.18592157]

What is popular fiction these days? I lost track after everyone sucked Gorge Martin dry.

[Anonymous No.18592161]

>>18589662
Cool, checkin it out. Thanks again.

[Anonymous No.18592171]

>>18592157
Did you try to use google to answer your question?

[Anonymous No.18592180]

>>18592018
Let the brainlets filter themselves.

[Anonymous No.18592197]

>>18591988
Literally every scifi book I've ever read with a female protag has been somewhere between mediocre (Nemesis, The Many-Colored Land, Rainbow's End) to absolute garbage (Seveneves, The Difference Engine)

[Anonymous No.18592292]

>>18592171
Yes its all sponsored content.

[Anonymous No.18592294]

>>18591894
What is really strange to me is how the setting is anything but 'generic medieval' when it has this sort of bronze age Mediterranean mixed with Indian golden age vibe.
They just fucking hate Bakker and are clutching for anything to throw at him.
Which is really ironic considering that their politics most likely align far closer to Bakker's than his fans on this board.

[Anonymous No.18592300]

>>18592294
I wonder how mister centre-left libcuck Bakker feels knowing that his most ardent fans are a bunch of literal neo-Nazis on a Rhodesian carpet weaving forum.

[Anonymous No.18592307]

>>18592300
Most of them come from discord.

[Anonymous No.18592311]

>>18592307
I'm one of the chronic Bakker posters and I have never posted on discord or reddit. /lit/ is my home board. When the Bakker posting renaissance began in November last year, I felt inspired, lightning-struck: as if my life had meaning again.

[Anonymous No.18592314]

>>18592311
You do know we have the archives right? There's no point in lying about this shit when its out in the open.

[Anonymous No.18592320]

>>18592314
Who's lying about what? /sffg/ from December-February was a golden age of beautiful organic Bakkerposting. Lots of interesting discussion of the finer points of the series, and there was crossposting with /tg/ as well.

Like you said, we have archives.

[Anonymous No.18592327]

>>18592320
Delusional. Those were the worst months. Stop trying to revise history

[Anonymous No.18592330]

>>18592327
Ignore him. Bakkercucks are delusional.

[Anonymous No.18592331]

>>18592327
>>18592330
>Those were the worst months.
For you...

[Anonymous No.18592336]

>>18592307
Don’t forget that they also samefag.

[Anonymous No.18592343]

>>18591524
>>18591587
this shit has put me on to Campbell-I haven't read any of his work, but thanks to the kvetching I looked into him and learned how incredibly based he was

the best thing we can do as fans is to ignore these people, ignore their diversity wins and promote the classics

>>18591524
unfortunately this shit says as much about modern "journalism" as it does about these halfwit pseudo intellectuals who think making their characters all black trannies means they're good writers

>inb4 Jeannette Ng gets cancelled for having a problematic last name

[Anonymous No.18592358]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqzi6prjVxM&t=164
Woah... sugoi! Goblinfu is good at reading!!

[Anonymous No.18592384]

>>18592197
Unfortunately true. Every generic Suechild Brando Sando pushes out of his thinkhole would be a solid 8/10 sci-fi heroine. The genre literally has more good female writers than protagonists, and you can count both without taking off your shoes.

[Anonymous No.18592436]

/sffg/, I'm about to start a new series but I don't know what to pick. Princes of Nothing, to join the bakkerchads, or Throne of Glass, to satisfy the guy trying to bait people into reading YA for women?

[Anonymous No.18592443]

>>18592436
Throne of Glass

[Anonymous No.18592450]

>>18592436
Join the Ordeal, Brother...
at least so you can understand this image.

[Anonymous No.18592470]

>>18591988
Gideon the Ninth, but it's Space Fantasy, not sci-fi.

[Anonymous No.18592477]

>>18585607
I want a recommendation:
Are there any good sci-fi novels set in space or other planets where the protagonist is a CEO?
I'm picturing a Tony Stark-like guy who's in charge of an asteroid mining company, or something.
I've read and enjoyed plenty of books where the corporations are the bad guys, and I want a change of pace.
A few PKD novels have CEO characters of variable sympathetic-ness in their cast, but I'm wanting something more like hard sci-fi.

[Anonymous No.18592491]

i like dune
that is all

[Anonymous No.18592525]

>>18592436
Bakker or your mother will die in her sleep tonight.

[Anonymous No.18592570]

Blindsight raises fascinating question and yet the prose is clunky and generally bad. Watts is tedious to read.

[Anonymous No.18592573]

>>18588636
Why the hell can't I find this author on Google or Yandex? The book doesn't exist at all online.

[Anonymous No.18592601]

>>18592570
I think he was trying to write like how Siri would write, that is, autistically and full of technical terminology he would take for granted. I thought the writing fit very well personally.

[Anonymous No.18592639]

>>18592525
Honestly, that might make both of us happier.

[Anonymous No.18592680]

>>18592570
The prose itself was serviceable, but I had a lot of difficulty understanding some of the scientific language.

[Anonymous No.18592687]

>>18592570
Not to make things too political, but has /sffg/ read the blog post where Watts says that black people should start murdering random cops as a game theory strategy to disincentivize police shootings?
It was pretty unhinged. I'm not joking, this is a really blog post and it's exactly what it sounds like.

[Anonymous No.18592702]

>>18592687
From reading Blindsight and Echopraxia I could tell he was a leftist. Not that there was anything overtly political in the books, but I could just tell.

[Anonymous No.18592704]

>>18592450
That compass is so wrong on so many levels.

[Anonymous No.18592709]

>>18592702
It's the soulless bugman materialism.

[Anonymous No.18592721]

>>18592709
No, it wasn't that. I didn't have any philosophical disagreements with the ideas in the book. It's hard for me to describe, but it's something about the way characters are presented and how they interact. It was worse in Echopraxia. In Blindsight there wasn't that much of it and I just brushed it off but in Echopraxia it was obvious.

[Anonymous No.18592724]

>>18589334
Yes. You have to understand GotM will make a LOT more sense in hindsight once you finally understand what's what. There's probably good two books worth of ideas in it crammed together.

[Anonymous No.18592725]

>>18592702
On Wikipedia there's a story about him being unjustly hurt by some US border patrol officers, so it's personal for him. Which I guess makes advocating murdering random people simply for their profession a little less unforgivable.

[Anonymous No.18592728]

>>18592721
I can't really agree or disagree unless you explain it.

[Anonymous No.18592732]

>>18591296
I find it difficult to put into words why I can't stand modern genre fans. Doubly so those who make a big deal about being unable to read the classics.

[Anonymous No.18592743]

>>18592728
Sorry, it was a subtle thing and it's been a while since I read them so I'm not sure I could give specific examples now even if I wanted to. I didn't like Echopraxia much anyway so it hasn't kept much of a place in my mind. I thought Blindsight was great, though.

[Anonymous No.18592758]

>>18592732
>I find it difficult to put into words why I can't stand modern genre fans.
character drama wankery

[Anonymous No.18592766]

>>18592725
It's funny because the reason police are militarized and violent to begin with is because they have to deal with blacks on a daily basis.

[Anonymous No.18592798]

>>18592766
You said it, not me!

[Anonymous No.18592801]

>>18589334
Yeah. Book 1 is a movie script adapted to novel after it kept getting rejected. Book 2 and on are actually planned out as books.

[Anonymous No.18592834]

>>18589384
There is a manga called Yokohama Kaidashi Kiko which is set in a post-apocalypse defined mostly by rising sea levels, mass population reduction, ecological disruption.
It isn't anything like Mad-Max, it is about a girl who runs a café.
It is what really broke me out of the spell of the dusty desert cliché. I recommend checking out even a few chapters (or some of the anime) just to get a feel for a different kind of "end of the world".

Likewise there was some documentary called After Humans from a while ago that showed what would happen to the world if people just disappeared.

Another thing you could do is look up stuff like Existential Risks and try to work out a post-apocalypse from one of those. Seemingly unimpressive things like sufficient levels of Ocean Acidity could potential have catastrophic effects, it doesn't always have to be nuclear wastelands.

[Anonymous No.18592887]

>>18589334
>>18592724
>mfw watching a superficial booktuber's surface take on Malazan

[Anonymous No.18592901]

>>18590817
Although I don’t like this shit, have we truly forgotten how much absolute shit passed as publishable or award-winning fantasy/science fiction 10, 20, 30, or 40 years ago? We only remember the ones who stood the rest of time.

[Anonymous No.18592917]

>>18590817
>Their second young adult novel, Felix Ever After, is about a transgender teen who catfishes a classmate for revenge and ends up falling for him

The Discord Tranny Who Loved Me

[Anonymous No.18592951]

>>18590817
They look only half-nigger, not full.

[Anonymous No.18592958]

>>18591296
Who is this Orcish goddess?

[Anonymous No.18592966]

>>18590864
>I call everyone using male pronouns
You do?

[Anonymous No.18592975]

>>18586205
Red Rising is awesome. I think HBO bought the rights and it has gotten quite popular, so I could see it blowing up in a year. It's, unlike many series, getting better. First is just decent and kind of a filter and then it becomes top tier.

[Anonymous No.18592978]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyjDBGC56m4
>Reviewing a book that he admits he didn't finish

What has happened to humanity?

[Anonymous No.18592988]

>>18586966
redditor

[Anonymous No.18592997]

>>18592978
Don’t blame him. The cuckoldry gets tiresome and trite.

[Anonymous No.18593002]

>>18592997
There isn't a single cuckold scene in that book.

Is it that bad, anon? Have you seen a psychiatrist yet?

[Anonymous No.18593003]

>>18589252
It only gets better. A perfect gumbo of high quality writing, epic fantasy themes, grim dark fantasy, historical realism (parallels the First Crusade fairly closely for the first three books), and interesting philosophy mixed in. Baller being a philosophy PhD certainly helps, even if he subscribes to materialism a elimitavism I find a bit silly. Like, what if Denette is right, what if free will is ephemeral or doesn't exist, but what if magic is also real and we KNOW Hell and damnation for sin is real?

The premise wears a bit thin by the next four books taking place much later, but he steps the epic fantasy and grim dark up so it works.

Only problem is all the grim dark violence and rape, and the lack of female characters with a lot of agency in the first three turns some people off, although this is fixed in the second series.

[Anonymous No.18593008]

>>18588117
Isn't Dunyain having sex with any mortal basically rape since normal people are basically children to them?

They should only fuck non-men.

[Anonymous No.18593022]

What are some fantasy books that describe very gloomy forests in detail?

[Anonymous No.18593031]

>>18592887
>spends the entire review repeating how much she LOVES the book
>only thing she focuses on are badass female characters
>also, characters in general because she can't grasp anything else
>dragons and magic are COOL

I swear to god that "review" was just a sequence of her alternating between disguised frustration and talking about character moments. No substance at all aimed at not pissing off anyone.

[Anonymous No.18593038]

>>18592887
Kawaiiii!

[Anonymous No.18593048]

B

[Anonymous No.18593053]

>>18587852
Half-Dunyain, which are broken copies. We get very little insight into the true Dunyain, and Moengus thinks Khellus is a defective when he sees he was corrupted by the world

The true Dunyain, close to the Absolute, would probably react very differently. The Consult skin spy talks about the Dunyain escaping damnation through full emersion in the Absolute.

>>18588234
I disagree. They would just need to flesh out the female leads a bit more and make the rapes less graphic. You can imply Cnoir being a rapist off screen. You could cut most Esmenet scenes aside from sex with the Consult which was consensual anyhow, just haunting. A lot of the other rape is during sackings of cities and you can just imply that in montages.

The other graphic monster rape can all be implied without altering the story in any way, so I think it could all be cleaned up. I actually think Bakker fucked up by making some scenes so graphic since it limits his audience and adds little. The whole "meat" thing went American Psycho mode.

Remember, American Psycho itself, full of necrophilia and torture, was made into a mainstream (and good) film by editing the grizzly parts to imply withy showing. That could work here.

The elimitavism is probably a bigger normies barrier desu.

[Anonymous No.18593055]

>>18593048
What a truly perplexing statement.

[Anonymous No.18593064]

>>18587801
Oh Sardersoi fuck off.

[Anonymous No.18593065]

>>18592358
I fully comprehend her arguments, and I mostly feel the same.
She's missing the real point, but she's really close to realizing fantashit is simply shit.
Somebody recommend her some litfic.

[Anonymous No.18593101]

>>18593003
It really is quite nice. A quote I liked from near the beginning:
>Maithanet carried a plague whose primary symptom was certainty. How the God could be equated wit the absence of hesitation was something Achamian had never understood. After all, what was the God but the mystery that burdened them all? What was hesitation but a dwelling-within this mystery?

[Anonymous No.18593219]

Is it just me, or is epic fantasy the nigger of the genre fiction world?

[Anonymous No.18593270]

>>18593219
just you

[Anonymous No.18593276]

>>18593219
Just you.

[Anonymous No.18593281]

>>18593219
Fantashit in general.

[Anonymous No.18593287]

>>18592358
She's based for the sole fact of not liking Sanderson.

[Anonymous No.18593288]

>>18593219
That's grimdark

[Anonymous No.18593294]

>>18593219
Just you.

[Anonymous No.18593298]

>>18593219
Just you

[Anonymous No.18593300]

>>18593219
Just you.

[Anonymous No.18593328]

>>18592436
Throne of Glass

[Anonymous No.18593333]

>>18593219
Just you

[Anonymous No.18593339]

>>18592436
Throne of glass.

[Anonymous No.18593341]

New thread
>>18593340

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>>18593294
>>18593298
>>18593300
>>18593333
Samefag

[Anonymous No.18593352]

>>18593344
Just you