/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.18551190]

>exists for 250,000 years and has a population of 1.4 billion people
>has produced zero (0) respected works of literary merit
I guess that old adage is wrong, a room full of monkeys with typewriters really can’t write Shakespeare

[Anonymous No.18551198]

>>18551190
nice bait

[Anonymous No.18551208]

>>18551190
nice hidden indian /lit/ rec thread

[Anonymous No.18551212]

>>18551190
Kalidasa>sHACKspear

[Anonymous No.18551252]

>>18551208
this, don't validate OP by responding with recs

[Anonymous No.18551276]

>>18551190
I'm not much aware about Indian literature but I have read Mahabharata and Ramayana. Both of them are nice.

[Anonymous No.18551382]

>>18551190
India has the best actually

[Anonymous No.18552640]

Indian here. Not recommending you shit. Use google you donkey.

[Anonymous No.18552897]

>>18551208
This, inverse psychology

[Anonymous No.18552909]

>>18552640
>Indian here.
>Not recommending you shit.

Why wouldn't you recommend your national pastime

[Anonymous No.18552924]

>>18552909
Kek'd

[Anonymous No.18552930]

>>18551190
Obligatory pic related

[Anonymous No.18552961]

It’s crazy how many tiny countries with small populations like Ireland brutally mog Pooinloodia to death in the literary sense.

[Anonymous No.18552980]

>>18552961
>he thinks a handful of modernists can stack up to one of the most culturally important civilizations in history

[Anonymous No.18552981]

>OP getting btfo this hard
wonderful, sage

[Anonymous No.18552992]

>>18552980

[Anonymous No.18553008]

>>18552992
>21st century open defecation rates define a millennia-old civilization's cultural merit
So THIS is the power of Eurocentrism...

[Anonymous No.18553012]

I like Indians but I make fun of Indians online because it is funny

Indians seem like a nice people and I hope to god they never let certain people with small hats into their country. Don't trust them!

[Anonymous No.18553021]

>>18553008
if the millennia-old cultural values led to very high open defecation rates in the 21st century, then how much was their culture really worth?

[Anonymous No.18553053]

>>18553012
There actually are longstanding Jewish communities in India, though they only number in the tens of thousands of individuals and most of them migrated to Israel in the mid-20th century.

>>18553021
Thinking a country's modern sanitation conditions are at all connected to the quality of its literature is idiotic. India faces many problems today, but they're not related to the Mahabharata.

[Anonymous No.18553098]

>>18551190
>has produced zero (0) respected works of liter
>"Even the loftiest philosophy of the Europeans, the idealism of reason, as it is set forth by Greek philosophers, appears in comparison with the abundant light and vigor of Oriental idealism, like a feeble Promethean spark in the full flood of heavenly glory of the noonday sun—faltering and feeble, and ever ready to be extinguished."
- Friedrich von Schlegel (1772 – 1829)

>"When we read with attention the poetical and philosophical monuments of the East, above all, those of India, which are beginning to spread in Europe, we discover there many a truth, and truths so profound, and which make such a contrast with the meanness of the results at which the European genius has sometimes stopped, that we are constrained to bend the knee before the philosophy of the East, and to see in this cradle of the human race the native land of the highest philosophy."
- Victor Cousin (1792 – 1867)

>"It is impossible to read the Vedanta, or the many fine compositions in illustration of it, without believing that Pythagoras and Plato derived their sublime theories from the same fountain with the sages of India."
- Sir William Jones ( 1746 – 1794)

>"I spend my happiest hours in reading Vedantic books. They are to me like the light of the morning, like the pure air of the mountains - so simple, so true, if once understood."
- Max Muller (1823 – 1900)

>"In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the Bhagavat Geeta, since whose composition years of the gods have elapsed, and in comparison with which our modern world and its literature seem puny and trivial…"
- Henry David Thoreau (1817 – 1862)

>(The Bhagavad Gita is) "The most beautiful, perhaps the only true philosophical song existing in any known tongue ....perhaps the deepest and loftiest thing the world has to show."
- Wilhelm von Humboldt (1767 – 1835)

>"I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-gita. It was the first of books; it was as if an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy, but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old intelligence which in another age and climate had pondered and thus disposed of the same questions which exercise us."
- Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803 – 1882)

>"In the whole world there is no study so beneficial and so elevating as that of the Upanishads. It has been the solace of my life -- it will be the solace of my death. "
- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788 – 1860)

[Anonymous No.18553107]

>>18551190
Damn anon, why so nasty?

[Anonymous No.18553116]

>>18553098
what race are you really guenonfag

i know it's mixed but what is the mix

[Anonymous No.18553125]

>>18552909
actually laughed

[Anonymous No.18553129]

Just got the Upanishads, what am I in for?

[Anonymous No.18553146]

>>18551190
The Upanishads tho

[Anonymous No.18553148]

>>18553116
45% Hyperborean
40% Atlantean
15% Pleiadian

[Anonymous No.18553184]

>>18553012
no one really hates on Indians much except /biz/

[Anonymous No.18553187]

>>18553129
The final red-pill

Easwaran’s edition of them is simplified and abridged tho

[Anonymous No.18553192]

>>18553146
What can I expect from it, just got it. How do I get the most out of it?

[Anonymous No.18553206]

Here you go OP. Suck my balls.
Khushwant Singh
Charu Nivedita
Prem Chand
Salman Rushdie

[Anonymous No.18553213]

>>18553206
calm down, raj

[Anonymous No.18553217]

>>18553187
What should I have gotten?

[Anonymous No.18553226]

>>18553116
The pajeet anon is another anon

[Anonymous No.18553228]

>>18553184
I really dislike modern indians, ancient indians were kinda cool

[Anonymous No.18553230]

>>18551190
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm91hh9SqXs

[Anonymous No.18553233]

Pynchon could easily write the mahabharata. Kerouac could even write it

[Anonymous No.18553235]

>>18553228
what is your conception of modern indians

[Anonymous No.18553255]

>>18552961
The problem with India is that it should not have been one country, it is simply too diverse. A EU/NATO type deal where the various Indian peoples all have their own nations, bound together by a common military and currency, would be ideal. In any case, the material conditions are irrelevant to literature.

[Anonymous No.18553269]

>>18553228
>More than a billion people are all the same
You got a problem dick head?

[Anonymous No.18553272]

>>18552909
Alright you're a funny one anon

[Anonymous No.18553279]

>>18553235
Lots of trash, dirt, open defecation and unhygienic practices everywhere, uncontrolled growth of human population and high rape statistics, pretty much.

[Anonymous No.18553309]

>>18553192
>How do I get the most out of it?

1. Read ‘Man and His Becoming According to the Vedanta’ by Rene Guenon (pbuh) as preparation so you already know the lingo

2. Read the best Upanishad commentaries ever written, namely, those by Sri Shankaracharya (pbuh) in the order they are given below from top to bottom.

https://estudantedavedanta.net/Eight-Upanisads-Vol-1.pdf
https://estudantedavedanta.net/Eight-Upanisads-vol2.pdf
https://archive.org/details/Brihadaranyaka.Upanishad.Shankara.Bhashya.by.Swami.Madhavananda
https://archive.org/details/Shankara.Bhashya-Chandogya.Upanishad-Ganganath.Jha.1942.English

>>18553217
>What should I have gotten?
Sri Shankaracharya’s (pbuh) commentaries on them, translated by Gambhirananda and Madhavananda, they include the text of the Upanishad in the commentary.

[Anonymous No.18553351]

>>18553309
I would be careful about reading Advaita Vedanta interpretations such as Shankara's as a commentary to the Upanishads, they are extremely reliant on Buddhist philosophy (Shankara is called a "cryptobuddhist" by most Hindus, and most scholars agree). If you want to read the Upanishads, work through them with editions and commentaries that aren't sectarian, or at least read an interpretation that is closer to the original meaning of the Upanishads, rather than Shankara's 9th century AD quasi-buddhism.

[Anonymous No.18553369]

>>18553351
t. faggot nihilist skeptic who resents Shankaracharya (pbuh) for BTFOing his pathetic atheism and for thoroughly refuting the school of sophistic nihilism known as Buddhism.

[Anonymous No.18553384]

>>18553369
Our resident Shankara #1 fan guenonfag even endorsed a book that says the crypto-buddhism accusations are real and that Shankara did not "refute" Buddhism at all.

[Anonymous No.18553395]

>EOP makes a fool of himself again because he can only read translations
lmao

[Anonymous No.18553419]

>>18551212
Dumb fuck

[Anonymous No.18553440]

>>18553419
Seethe more Anglocuck.
Shakuntala>>>Macbeth

[Anonymous No.18553468]

>>18553440
I'm not an Anglocuck but not acknowledging Shakespeare is complete fuckery

[Anonymous No.18553472]

>>18553384
Sri Shankaracharya (pbuh) completely obliterated the doctrinal foundations of Buddhism as contradictory garbage and thereby helped vanquished it from India.

>From whatever new points of view the Buddha's system is tested with reference to its probability, it gives way on all sides, like the walls of a well, dug in sandy soil. It has, in fact, no foundation whatever to rest upon and hence the attempts to use it as a guide in the practical concerns of life are mere folly. Moreover Buddha, by propounding the three mutually contradicting systems, teaching respectively the reality of the external world, the reality of ideas only and general nothingness, has himself made it clear that he was a man given to make incoherent assertions or else that hatred of all beings induced him to propound absurd doctrines by accepting which they would become thoroughly confused…Buddha’s doctrine has to be entirely disregarded by all those who have a regard for their own happiness."

Sri Shankaracharya (pbuh) - Brahma Sutra Bhasya 2.2.32.

[Anonymous No.18553481]

>>18553472
Oh no no no that's not what #1 Shankara fan guenonfag says at all. He says that Deutsch is 100% correct about Shankara getting the idea of formal monasticism from the long standing Buddhist tradition, and that before that, there was no institutional monasticism in Hinduism!

[Anonymous No.18553486]

>>18553468
>takes sHACKspear literally
New here?

[Anonymous No.18553557]

>>18553486
I take nothing literally. Besides, thinking that being a newbie makes someone wrong is a fallacy;)

[Anonymous No.18553739]

>>18551190
Kalidasa > Goethe
Bhasa > Sophocles
Magha > Virgil
Vedas > Bible
#Factsarefacts
>>18553021
>modern Greece is a failed state - Homer must be worthless!

[Anonymous No.18553836]

>>18551190
Same problem with China
Has a billion "people" but not one of them can come up with an original idea and create something of merit.
Literally their entire population are urban bugmen completely soulless entirely focused on aquiring money and status and shiny things.
Most of them would gladly sell you their daughter for a visa to a western country.
They will never produce anything other than call centre workers and destroyed toilets.

[Anonymous No.18553852]

>>18553279
I see, although this is obviously not the case /everywhere/. I haven't seen anyone streetshitting here, for instance.

[Anonymous No.18553861]

>>18553472
You are not god. Look in the mirror nigga

[Anonymous No.18553915]

>>18553861
Observed objects like mirrors which are different from consciousness don’t provide you with reliable information about the status of the consciousness within which that object is appearing, that the objects are known at all makes it undeniable that there is an existing consciousness, but past that, the objects like mirrors dont indicate anything else about it.

[Anonymous No.18553965]

Now that guenonfag himself has debunked and refuted advaita, what is the best system? Ramanuja's?

[Anonymous No.18553968]

>>18551190
What they lack in literary merit they make up for in TikTok kino

[Anonymous No.18554010]

>>18553968
Post the webms please

[Anonymous No.18554023]

>>18553255
Yeah and they would get taken apart by other countries pitting each state against each other, i.e. what happened with the British, the Mughals, and the other Muslims before that

[Anonymous No.18554026]

>>18552640
>Indian here
im so sorry for your loss

[Anonymous No.18554029]

The harsh truth that makes Indians cope like no other is that most of them (at least the stereotipical Tamil looking pajeets) have very little to do with the sages that wrote the Vedas.
Modern Indians are the product of admixture with a predominately Dravidian ancestry.
Caste system was a way for the Aryan conquerers to subdue the native Dravidians. In the Gita it's literally said at the beginning that the mixing of the castes (ie races) brings ruin. That's why India couldn't build on their glorious past, the Aryans didn't listen to their sages and let the tamas of Dravidians flow into their souls, giving as a result the modern Indians, a literal degeneration (from Latin degeneratus, de - genus, stray away from your ancestors).

[Anonymous No.18554041]

>>18554023
I suppose so. It's a shame, but I do think in a perfect world my system would be the best

[Anonymous No.18554055]

>>18553968
bros, i miss indian joker....

[Anonymous No.18554074]

>>18551190
>>18551208
Bait aside, what are some contemporary Indian works. I've checked out Amitav Ghosh but he just seems like a pop-lit tier author.

[Anonymous No.18554571]

Bahahahaha

If only you knew

[Anonymous No.18554595]

>>18553968
I’M A RIDER

[Anonymous No.18554619]

>>18552909

[Anonymous No.18554629]

>>18552992
Plot twist: they're shitting on flyers asking residents to use the new public loo

[Anonymous No.18554654]

>>18551190
>>18552961
Indians are unironically whiter in spirit than you Christcuck and Mudslime demons, and at the end of the day, spirit matters more than blood.

[Anonymous No.18554692]

>>18554654
....You realize hundreds of millions of Indians are Muslims, and tens of millions are Christian, right?

[Anonymous No.18554700]

>>18554692
That is way more disgusting than swimming piss or fecal matter.
Christians, Muslims, and Jews do not deserve to exist.

[Anonymous No.18554713]

>>18554595
BEST ROBBARI

[Anonymous No.18554720]

>>18552909
Pootards once again BTFO

[Anonymous No.18554724]

>Indians are unironically whiter in spirit than you Christcuck and Mudslime demons, and at the end of the day, spirit matters more than blood.

[Anonymous No.18554738]

>>18554724
It's true.
All Abrahamism is a death fetishist and constructed by Jews for the purposes of fulfilling creepy messianic goals.

[Anonymous No.18554764]

>>18553021
if the millennia-old cultural values led to very high open transsexual transition, roastie, and infidelity rates in the 21st century, then how much was their culture really worth?

See, two can play that game, faggot.

[Anonymous No.18554805]

>>18553098
Can you read the Bhagavad Gita first? Is there a reading guide for this?

[Anonymous No.18554834]

>>18554764
obliterated.


imagine the great-grandchildren of the ghouls who sent millions to be slaughtered like pigs in the trenches for capitalist hegemony trying to dunk on poos about street shitting lmao. I spit on you cunts

[Anonymous No.18554843]

>>18554764
*to the tune of the Beatles yellow submarine*
Weeeee all shit in the designated street
Designated street
Designated street
>>18554834
>I spit on you cunts
As long as you’re not shitting on us, Sanjeet

[Anonymous No.18554869]

>>18554843
mongrel sons of a dying empire trying to meme their way into loving themselves, cute.

[Anonymous No.18554896]

>>18554843
At least there is an India.
There is no Europe or Iran. We abandoned our heritage when we adopted Abrahamism.
Instead of mocking Indians, we should respect their artistic and cultural legacy. It is impressive they have preserved the Vedas, Upanishads, and more.
Europeans couldn't even preserve their ancient Druidic wisdom. Do you realize how advanced Druids were? Do you realize Christians totally wiped out that cultural legacy?
The same thing happened to Iran with Islam and Zoroastrianism, but the Gathas at least survived. It's not much though.
Anyways, I don't agree with Hinduism for complex philosophical reasons, but I respect their artistic and cultural legacy moreso than sick, perverted Abrahamic bullshit.

[Anonymous No.18554982]

>>18554896
Well at least the Greeks were preserved too. You could pretty much create entire religious movements out of their various philosophies, and it makes more sense than Abrahamism.
There can be no peace so long as Abrahamic religions remain big.

[Anonymous No.18555044]

>disporafag shitting up another thread
Better to spend your time actually learning the language of the ancestors you pretend to have a connection with.

[Anonymous No.18555120]

>>18555044
This entire thread began with assholes insulting an ancient nation's artistic and philosophical legacy. I'm not shitting up this thread. I'm pointing out the thread was disingenuous from the start and probably started by insulting Abrahamic death cultists.
The root of the vast majority of West Eurasia's ills come from Abrahamic bullshit, which must be annihilated. Abrahamism is anti-life, death fetishist, and apocalyptic in a creepy Kabbalahic way.

[Anonymous No.18555129]

>>18555120
Hideously based Klages poster.

[Anonymous No.18555156]

>>18555120
What if this is the truth bros...

[Anonymous No.18555171]

>>18555120
ew pagan larp

[Anonymous No.18555187]

>>18555120
pagantard larper utterly btfo by gnostics and christian anthropologists. your religions are based on death and are all false.

[Anonymous No.18555189]

>>18551190
This is a good thread.

[Anonymous No.18555223]

>>18555187
You see this Indian giant squirrel? He means more than your shit Jew. Go eat shit in hell with that kike and Bedouin both.

[Anonymous No.18555251]

>>18554805
>Can you read the Bhagavad Gita first?
yea
>Is there a reading guide for this?
not a /lit/ one yet, maybe I’ll make one this year

[Anonymous No.18555292]

>>18554982
>peace

[Anonymous No.18555404]

>>18555251
Pls anon