/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.18540222]

marxchads, I fucking kneel...

[Anonymous No.18540230]

I've been on 4chan for 12 years and probably wrote more than that in shitposts

[Anonymous No.18540245]

Complete Works of Mussolini

[Anonymous No.18540293]

>>18540245
Pathetic ...

[Anonymous No.18540431]

>>18540245
>works
you mean manuscripts of his schizo speeches?

[Anonymous No.18540502]

>>18540431
Cry about it.

[Anonymous No.18540519]

>>18540245
>tfw will never meat il duce

>from Rudolf Borchardt’s Besuch bei Mussolini (Visit to Mussolini):
I could only be astonished that this man, the ruler of Italy, with all the burdens of the day’s work on his shoulders, found time to discuss with me the precise translation of individual words and expressions . . . He opened the first Canto and began to read. “That is a literal translation,” he remarked, and then said, “I understand it is written in a modern German style. Wait, what is this?” He pointed to a word he did not know, and I had to explain it to him. . . . Concentrated willpower and a positive sort of decisiveness mastered in large part the rounded and complete gestures of the kind one might expect from a dignitary of the Church or an aristocratic poet, reminding me of some pictures of the later Goethe. . . . Schlegel, Schelling, Hegel, King Johann of Saxony, Vossler, George – he made a brief appraisal of each. “Now to the fifth circle of the Inferno,” he exclaimed, adding rapidly and almost merrily, “Francesca da Remini.” . . . He went to the last stanzas, read out my German translation, then recited the original Italian verses from memory, read more German, and compared them exactly with the verses which he knew by heart. He pointed to a subtlety of tone in the Italian original and wanted to be sure that I had successfully reproduced it in German, reading out my German version slowly and carefully, with a strong but accurate pronunciation. Finally, he interrupted his own criticisms and suggestions by excusing himself, adding that he was only a layman and a mere reader. He closed the book, opened it once more, and finally closed it for good. “Thank you,” he said earnestly, and shook my hand warmly.

[Anonymous No.18540524]

>>18540519
>meat
guess I am gay for Il Duce now sorry I am ESL

[Anonymous No.18540541]

>>18540519
Say what you will about Hitler, the man at least had wits and class. Benito was a fucking retard

[Anonymous No.18540602]

>>18540541
Benito was the last educated statesman of Europe.

[Anonymous No.18540609]

>>18540222
Selected, complete or really complete?

[Anonymous No.18540638]

>>18540519
Many such accounts. And he used to receive a lot of visitors, differently from today's leaders who are elusive or completely barricaded in their strongholds. Benito was a true man.

[Anonymous No.18540640]

>>18540502
How many pages could we have of stupid ramblings of whatever was on marx and engels minds

[Anonymous No.18540669]

>>18540640
>Stupid ramblings
Those are the works collected from his writings since he was an anarchist. The guy wrote a great amount of texts about subjects ranging from socialism, to the nature of the State, interventionism, nationalism, and so on. They're not merely the transcription of his speeches (which, by themselves, would be great literature to read, given his oratory).

[Anonymous No.18540807]

>>18540222
Now compare the theory with practice, and see how retarded Marx and Engles really were.

[Anonymous No.18540880]

God I love how in german works is werke
German language seems so strange and cute to me

[Anonymous No.18541148]

>>18540609
Complete as far as I know. Everything written by him and Engels.

[Anonymous No.18541339]

A new challenger has arrived.

[Anonymous No.18541380]

>>18540222
>>18540245
>>18540293
>>18541339
Kneel before the 1,000,000 pages of Warhammer 40k

[Anonymous No.18541387]

>>18541380
>>18541339
>>18540293
>>18540245
>>18540222
...and no, this isn't the complete works, you could fill more shelves

Words for the Word God!
Books for the Book Throne!

[Anonymous No.18541422]

I have all 45 volumes of the complete work of Lenin on my shelf. Got it at a used bookstore for 200 dollars because the owner did not want to break it up and couldn't otherwise sell it. Not sure why I bought them.

[Anonymous No.18541425]

>>18541387
What are the three giant Dan Abnett volumes?

[Anonymous No.18541654]

>>18541422
Did you read them?

[Anonymous No.18542626]

>>18540609

The most thorough Marx/Engels committed to the English language is the MECW, the Marx Engels Collected Works, which runs for exactly 50 volumes. This project has been concluded, although it is an incomplete view of the corpus.

The MEGA, on the other hand, is the real controlling edition, a mammoth project which is ongoing, in the original German and (I think) the other original languages where applicable (French, English). About 50 or so volumes have appeared, out of a projected 120. This is the one which includes correspondence to-and-from each guy, every grocery list, every jot and tittle. The project has naturally slowed following the collapse of the Eastern bloc, but is still technically in progress, and not concluded.

In Society of the Spectacle, one of the chapter-opening quotes is a correspondence between Marx and Ruge: "Shall we live to see the political revolution..?" I once tried to find this in the MECW, to no avail. It can be found in the MEGA.

I'm not sure what the OP actually is. It might be certain collected MEGA volumes, or else one of the German selected editions.

[Anonymous No.18542643]

>>18541422

You should read "Capitalism: the highest state of Imperialilsm" and "what is to be done?" That way you can at least say that you read some of the important stuff in your set.

[Anonymous No.18542722]

>>18541380
This; The Star Wars written material and Warhammer 40k have to be the most written about subjects in history

[Anonymous No.18542749]

>>18541339
>>18540293
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>>18540222
I'm sorry but what the fuck was their problem?

[Anonymous No.18543053]

>>18540222
Imagine dedicating your life to a socioeconomic system that has and continues to destroy free thought.

[Anonymous No.18543071]

>>18540222
>words words words
Yep. It’s dilating time.

[Anonymous No.18543091]

>>18543053
What is 'free thought'?

[Anonymous No.18543104]

>>18543091
why are there always retards in these threads that ask "what is x" or "define x"
cant you retards use a duckduckgo or something?

[Anonymous No.18543116]

>>18543091
It's bourgeois talk that just means flagrantly disregarding the immortal truth of Marxism. Pay it no heed, comrade.

[Anonymous No.18543122]

>>18543091
Deviation from correct thought.
Also this >>18543116

[Anonymous No.18543127]

>>18543053
you know what destroys free thought? wage slavery, dumb wagecuck.

[Anonymous No.18543141]

>>18543127
Thought is far more free now than it ever has been, despite the massive prevalence of wage slavery compared to the past. If you live in proper first world countries (ie not America) you even have the option not to wageslave if you don't want.

[Anonymous No.18543167]

>>18540222
I can smash my heaad on the computer a few thousand times too and print out the result does this mean I'm an intellectual yet /lit/. Most commies can't even slog through the 50 page manifesto.

[Anonymous No.18543219]

>>18540519
Pound also raved about him.

[Anonymous No.18543276]

>>18543167
Let's be honest, you would struggle with the majority of Marx's writings. It's okay to be humble anon.

[Anonymous No.18543302]

>>18543276
Everyone does. That's why there are a million different schools of Marxism. It has everything to do with Marx's lack of clear thought and nothing to do with people not being "smart enough" to interpret it. Muddled writings can only produce muddled thoughts.

[Anonymous No.18543309]

Threads like this are no better sign that we are in an age of genuine poverty. Politics may be futile when we consider the powers that be, but anyone who isn't calling for a return of classical education needs to have their craniums examined.
The only movement I am engaged in is one that advocates for the return of the grammar school system in Britain. It was the first time that gifted Working Class kids were taught Latin and Greek, but Thatcher/Blair and their cronies deemed this too much of a problem. I mean, how does it raise the GDP?

[Anonymous No.18543330]

>>18543302
No, you are just cut off from the richness of western thought. You are on the side of those who seek to establish the average, Marx is clear to the genuinely educated.
I'm not a Marxist, I just hate people like you who would see humanity reduced. Go on, make some brainlet comment about le ebil Soviet Union.

[Anonymous No.18543372]

>>18543330
>Marx is clear to the genuinely educated.
No, he's not, because even from the genuinely educated, as I said, those varied schools of Marxism sprang up. If you're really unaware of this fact, you have some reading to do. Start with Kolakowski.

[Anonymous No.18543418]

>>18543372
>varied schools of Marxism sprang up
Oh dear, the infant is trying to think. His cute! This has happened for every thinker, including Plato and Aristotle, that Kowlakowski (who you haven't read) returns to. There are discussions, to this day, that ask whether Plato was a Platonist or Neoplatonist; whether Aristotle was anti-Platonic or Platonic. Clarity is more an indication of fruitfulness, not redundancy. Spend less time on 4chan, and more time reading. Otherwise you are doomed to be the embarrassment that you currently are, good day anon.

[Anonymous No.18543438]

>>18543418
>There are discussions, to this day, that ask whether Plato was a Platonist or Neoplatonist

[Anonymous No.18543455]

>>18543438
That you made this response is extremely telling. You are an infant. Return to the beauty and humility of the child-like state and return to this discussion once that return of aureate enthusiasm has carried your through the classical tradition and beyond.

[Anonymous No.18543463]

>>18542749
zero pussy and too much free time.

[Anonymous No.18543498]

>>18543418
Plato had esoteric (spoken, see Phaedrus for Plato's real opinion on the worth of writing) teachings which he never wrote down, unlike Marx, which is what Neoplatonism largely put into the written word. So I'm assuming you don't know much about Plato or Plotinus either.
>whether Aristotle was anti-Platonic or Platonic.
No, there aren't. Aristotle was clearly divergent from Plato, and that much is not in dispute. Go check out Metaphysics right now where there are entire chapters dedicated to refuting Plato's abstract idealism. There is no room here for interpretation. This is not to say that Aristotle did not build on Plato in his own way (through negation).
>Clarity is more an indication of fruitfulness, not redundancy
Exactly, which is why Marx should be considered redundant, which was my point all along. Reading Aristotle and Plato will give one far more wisdom per hour spent than Marx.

[Anonymous No.18543500]

>>18541425
Eisenhorn I'm assuming

[Anonymous No.18543947]

>>18543498
>wisdom per hour
Lmfao, imagine going into philosophy with the mindset of a RuneScape player

[Anonymous No.18544061]

>>18540222
too much spook

[Anonymous No.18544069]

>>18541425
Gaunts ghosts or something I think

[Anonymous No.18544078]

Pfft, the Schottenstein talmud has way more volumes than that

[Anonymous No.18544111]

>>18543104
>>18543116
>>18543122
No answer?

[Anonymous No.18544117]

>>18543498
You don't know what you're talking about. Read more than Wikipedia before you try to contribute.

[Anonymous No.18544127]

>>18543053
This. It really is fucking sad.

[Anonymous No.18544575]

>>18540222

[Anonymous No.18545246]

>>18544575
what makes anglos think we don't pronounce the "e" at the end? Same thing with "Porsch". It's PorschE

[Anonymous No.18546183]

>>18543127
i work as a wage slave and i'm free to think of you as a dumb nigger

[Anonymous No.18546598]

>>18543053
>thinking free thought even exists

[Anonymous No.18546699]

>>18542749
Graphomania. There are people who are addicted to writing and it is obvious by their shit prose. They never stop long enough to reflect because their compulsion demands more words be written. Only a graphomaniac like marx could be capable of writing more words in critique of a guy's body of work than the guy ever wrote himself. That shows a complete lack of any synthesis necessary to critically construct an argument. At that point you are literally just seething and certain to repeat your ideas 10-20x over.

[Anonymous No.18546737]

>>18540293
So this is what he was dong for almost all of his life before he decided to go ruin Russia

[Anonymous No.18546926]

>>18542749
These large volume sets typically include all sorts of essays and letters on top of their books. Imagine if every shitpost, tweet, text, and essay were compiled in a bookset. A lot of people here would have multiple volumes. There are probably plenty of autists who have written more than these people because computers facilitate both the speed of writing and the amount of people you have to write to. These are probably some of the worst cases though. People who intersect in the roles of intellectual and leader are going to have to correspond with a lot of people.

[Anonymous No.18546937]

>>18540222
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>>18540293
>>18541339
all of it belongs in a landfill. what is it about worthless authors and their need to overcompensate?

[Anonymous No.18547044]

>>18546926
You're not wrong. I'm not a turbo autist and by my estimation I've shitposted a bare minimum 400 words per day for 15 years. That's over 2 million words of casual shitposts. I also have written an additional 700k-1m words of diary writing, short story attempts, outlines, etc. I'm not even 30 yet. Fuck, if you did the math for Stephen king...

[Anonymous No.18547090]

>>18540245
Ayo where the fuck can I get all of this in English? I’ve been studying Italian fascism for years and I can hardly find anything worthwhile. Gimme those primary sources

[Anonymous No.18547097]

>>18540541
hitler was a fucking schizo

[Anonymous No.18547109]

>>18540222
>>18540245
brainlets both of them

[Anonymous No.18547143]

>>18546183
>implying is not the slavery of thought itself wich makes you think you have free thought
ngmi

[Anonymous No.18547144]

>>18540222
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>>18540293
>>18541339
Pathetic. Pic is the works of Martin Luther.

[Anonymous No.18547404]

>>18547144
>tl dr

[Anonymous No.18547455]

>>18540222
>economically illiterate
>materialist in the exact way capitalism is
>braindead philosophy

[Anonymous No.18547457]

>>18543947
Is this what peak anglo analytics looks like?

[Anonymous No.18547737]

>>18543053
He devoted himself to capitalism? In a sense I suppose