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Yeah, /lit/. To combat modernity simply turn to Kantbot’s favorite writers like Dilthey and the Frankfurt school who made Aristotelian assumptions like that our knowledge of the Good remains only a hypothesis and who wanted to make a materialist basis for art where revelation was replaced with taking opium and other drugs to make art. Just trust this guy who used to rave about how mass literacy was a mistake and about how much he loves Stalinism and the most irrational of the german romantics.

>> No.18516778

Kantbot sucks but you seem triggered pal.

>> No.18516781

What? Dead white male?

>> No.18516794

>>18516778
Yeah, nazis tend to trigger me. But since you can mindlessly throw a buzzword around I guess that proves evil should win.

>> No.18516797

i keep formulating responses to threads like these and then remembering that it's pointless because everyone in here already agrees with me

>> No.18516804

>>18516794
Kantbot only used to be a nazi. Now he's risen above it and is apolitical or dirtbag left depending on the day.

>> No.18516837

>>18516804
Throwback to his Jacobite piece "Chapo Traphouse Will Never be Edgy"

>> No.18516915

>why don’t you pick up a book from a subject that’s designed for the advancement of leftism and work within its framework to beat it it
It’s attitudes like this that are so dumb. The only way to fight these things are to do everything we can as a society to destroy academia as an institution.

>> No.18516924

>>18516775
wait, wtf.
Are you equating modernity's materialism with Aristotle?
The fuck is wrong with you?

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Dubs and the fat man has a heart attack tonight

>> No.18517118

>>18516775
cool good luck combating modernity

>> No.18517160

>>18516775
>pick up a sociology book
Don't do this. I read Edward Said I found that I agreed with pretty much everything he said and now I lose my shit whenever some faggot undergrad starts running off about "Orientalism" just because "orient" sounds old-fashioned and therefore racist when Said himself said its just the inevitable interaction between two different ontologies.
Now whenever I hear some brahmin nigger complaining about "this text is orientalism aboo hoo hoo" I want to smack them.

>> No.18517185

>>18516775
>dude rockafeller and le rand corp lmfao
Kys you fat faggot stop making threads here

>> No.18517221

>>18516775
He is correct here. Grow up.

>> No.18517236

>>18516775
>you can fight government policy by reading
What a fat dummy

>> No.18518089

>>18516804
>dirtbag left
So just a cuck thats too afraid to be a /pol/-tier teenaged edgelord. Pathetic.

>> No.18518118

>>18516804
>dirtbag left
Man I love people who claim to be edgy because they call neocons retarded but start crying when someone else says nigger or “misgenders” someone.
Also Kantbot was never a nazi unless you’re an absolute retard who doesn’t have any effort to understand the basics of German philosophy.

>> No.18518238

>>18516775
Making threads like this is pure cowardice, criticise him directly.

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>>18516794
>But since you can mindlessly throw a buzzword around I guess that proves evil should win.

>> No.18518432

>>18516775
sir this is a wendys

>> No.18518474

>systemic structures of institutional racist oppression are in a sociology book so that means it’s true

>> No.18518484

>>18516775
You do realise that there are right wing sociologists?

>> No.18518488

>>18516794
>2021
>filtered by (((nazis)))
ngmi

>> No.18518496

Critical race theory is a magician's hat of logical fallacies, where the fallacy is acknowledged but left in a quantum state. Differing from schrodinger's cat because no determination is ever made.

>> No.18518499

>>18516775
Can someone give me the core thesis of critical race theory?

>> No.18518505

>>18518499
White man bad.
Color people oppressed and need to replace bad white man.

>> No.18518508

>>18518499
Particular race = Implied structural characteristics that produce relatively patterned results

The issue with this is that they are attempting to quantify something qualitative, and you will never do anything but create a mess of things trying to do this as you have a cascade of assumptions required to attach values to such moving targets.

>> No.18518523

>>18516794
Wow Kantbot was a Nazi? I better start reading him more seriously

>> No.18518529

>>18518508
So if I'm getting this right they assume that people of a certain race will act in a certain way due to structural norms? Isn't that not only low-key racist but also ignoring the role of culture and ethnicity?

>> No.18518546

>>18518529
I would say it's psuedo-racist. Racism is more of a bias, it can be entirely amoral and exist on its own. What critical race theory does is attempt to moralize something that is roughly intangible, it is dozens of layers of assumptions slapped together and then used to justify a moral position. Roughly a religion.

>> No.18518559

>>18518546
Are there any works that will tell me more about critical race theory?

>> No.18518564

>>18518559
I would just read the actual material regarding critical race theory and then make your own determination on what it is.

Team racism here btw.

>> No.18518596

>>18517236
>You can fight government policy without reading
I mean, technically yes, but I'm not sure how far you'll get

>> No.18518614

>Dilthey and the Frankfurt school who made Aristotelian assumptions like that our knowledge of the Good remains only a hypothesis and who wanted to make a materialist basis for art where revelation was replaced with taking opium and other drugs to make art.

You literally have 0 understanding of philosophy, the exact type of person that Kantbot is (correctly) whining about.

>> No.18518619

Got to love the "or whatever". No interest in taking a position on the actual debate, literally just virtue signaling that he's read a book, lecturing normal people just trying to send their kids to school without them being brianwashed into being some self hating schizoid white liberal tranny freak. Fucking faggot.

>> No.18518628

>>18518619
t. 90 IQ "books are for faggots" /pol/-addict who thinks consooming .jpg infographics and tweet-sized shitposts ""educates"" him
KEK

>> No.18518640

>>18518619
>debate
It's not a debate though you illiterate monkey, to non-retarded people this is just two monkeys throwing shit at each other.

>> No.18518667

>>18518628
I do read books but I don't go around annoying normal people about it, what a total waste of time. Imagine literally being that scoffing asshole that walks up to some everyday joe who's annoyed by what his kid is being taught in school and says "Uhmmm, heh, do you even READ?" with a gay little smirk. That's you.

>> No.18518685

>>18518640
If you're so above the debate why are you commenting on it? To signal that you read books on a fucking literature board? Damn we are all very impressed man, great job.

>> No.18518689

>>18516775
I thought kantbot was nrx

>> No.18518692

>>18518628
why are you so upset?

>> No.18518743

why do jannies allow gossip threads about rightoid ecelebs

>> No.18518837

What is Kantbot up to these days? I havent heard about him since 2016. I've just seen a tweet in which he advised everyone to read Lukacs. Is he still a reactionary? Has he gone left?
Also, is he racist?

>> No.18518875

>>18518559
Cynical Theory contains a good analysis. The writers have also written articles on the subject. They are James Lindsay and Helen Pluckrose.

>> No.18518937

>>18518619
People call any mention of racism "critical race theory" these days

>> No.18519261

>>18516794
>throw around buzzwords
>Kantbot is le Nazi
disingenuous scum, kys

>> No.18519266

>>18518743
holy fuck just leave the fucking thread
Everyone in here is having a conversation, why the fuck do you think janies function as your fucking caretaker protecting you from seeing anything you don’t like
Honestly man maybe you should just fucking kill yourself if this kind of simple shit eludes you, faggot

>> No.18519355

>>18517160
Did he say this in Orientalism (1978), or was it a later commenter using his framework? I'm curious as to what the actual quote is (haven't read it).

>> No.18519423

>>18519266
ok but why do jannies allow gossip threads about rightoid ecelebs

>> No.18519447

>>18518937
Any mention of “racism” by the left today is going to be informed by CRT.

>> No.18519451

>>18518628
A single /pol/ infographic is worth more than the entire field of academic sociology in terms of predictive power regarding racial issues. Ptolemaic epicycles are all you'll find in the literature

>> No.18519475

>>18519423
He’s got a blog where he writes about books. Let it go, anon.

>> No.18519477

>>18519423
To filter you from this board.

Go.

>> No.18519510

>>18519475
so i can make a twitter screencap thread about any cunt with a "book blog"? cool
>>18519477
i don't bloody think i will!

>> No.18519521

Don’t talk shit about Dilthey

>> No.18519538

Wait a minute I thought critical race theory was about fbi statistics and 1352 and all that lmao you fucking Americans and your buzzwords

>> No.18519662

>>18519510
>so i can make a twitter screencap thread about any cunt with a "book blog"? cool
Yes, sorry it took you so long to figure out

>> No.18519690

If critical race theory is put into practice it’s gonna be a bad time for the teachers at my local school! : )

>> No.18519722

>>18516775
>pick up a pseudoscience book
great idea kike
>>18518484
mein neggar

>> No.18519734

>>18519538
the buzzword you were thinking of is "race realism" aka white supremacy

>> No.18519750

>>18519734
East asian and Jewish supremacy actually

>> No.18519776

"Critical Race Theory" is the new boogeyman for rightists after "Postmodern Neomarxism" lost its flare.

>> No.18519832

>>18519776
boogeyman implies it doesn't exist, when in reality it's the status quo for academia, the media, and the government.

>> No.18519841

>>18519776
If you had any possibility of breeding you might empathize with concerns that your children are being manipulated by strangers you entrust them to, but seeing as how that isn’t the case, I’ll just remind you that you are an incel

>> No.18519845

>>18519832
boomer check

>> No.18519877

>>18519776
Realistically they should just refer to it as academic leftism and try to destroy as much of it as possible. The world would be an incomparably better place if works by Marx, Kropotkin, Derrida, bell hooks, Etc. were completely inaccessible as the people with knowledge of them were rendered incapable of transmitting it.

>> No.18519881

>>18519845
>haha you care about filling young peoples head with destructive crap? what are you a boomer? haha
spotted the insipid child. isn’t there some bbc cuckold porn you should be jerking off to?

>> No.18519901

>>18519881
The. Problem is that bugged like him can only think in terms of the economic benefit of each decision they make. The language of the academic left is the language of the gatekeepers of upward mobility, so to not embrace it seems unhealthy to them. These people are nothing more than self-hating yuppies.

>> No.18519955

>>18519750
East Asians? You mean the people who invented nothing, created no works of art, and made virtually zero scientific, mathematic, or philosophical developments over the course of 2000 years? The guys who live in giant waste dumps? Those guys?
You’re a fucking clown.

>> No.18519966

>>18519955
Yet they outperform whites in white countries despite academia also discriminating against them. You're also being ridiculous about their contributions to various fields even if it is within the realm of possibility that they're for some reason less creative on average(there is no hard evidence to support this however).

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>>18519955
If you're this historically illiterate you deserve to be dominated by your HR department and whatever idpol month they are mandating you celebrate.

>> No.18519984

>>18519955
>China isn’t responsible for many technological developments
>China and Japan don’t have significant traditions in every field of the arts.
If you want to bash Korea, fine, but anything else is just ignorant.

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>>18519966
>>18519968
Touch a nerve? Yeah? Keep coming to our universities we’ve made. You can leave your shithole country where you eat sewer rats and adhere to European governments systems, and where you read European philosophers like Whitehead. Again, you created nothing. Absolutely nothing. Oh and by the way, most Asians who come to my university don’t do well. They come because their parents in China are rich and they’re sent over to get an east US degree. They’re actually lazy as fuck and do nothing, they look at their phone all class and drive around in nice cars paid for by daddy. Go release a bioweapon on the world you fucking race of subhuman swine.

>> No.18520030

>>18519776
>>18519832
>>18519877
Althusser said something to the effect of ~cloak yourself in the language of the bourgeois~
>What really takes place in ideology seems therefore to take place outside it. That is why whose who are in ideology believe themselves by definition outside ideology: one of the effects of ideology is that practical denegation of the ideological character of ideology by ideology: ideology never says, 'I am ideological.' It is necessary to be outside ideology, i.e. in scientific knowledge to be able to say: I am in ideology (quite an exceptional case) or (the general case): I was in ideology. As is well known, the accusation of being in ideology only applies to others, never to oneself (unless one is really a Spinozist or a Marxist, which, in this matter, is to be exactly the same thing). Which amounts to saying that ideology has no outside (for itself) but at the same time that it is nothing but outside (for science and reality). (On the Reproduction of Capitalism, 1995/2014)
"Spinoza’s 'theory' rejected every illusion about ideology, and especially about the number one ideology of that time, religion, by identifying it as imaginary. But at the same time it refused to treat ideology as a simple error, or as naked ignorance, because it based the system of this imaginary phenomenon on the relation of men to the world 'expressed' by the state of their bodies. This materialism of the imaginary opened the way to a surprising conception of the First Level of Knowledge: not at all, in fact, as a 'piece of knowledge,' but as the material world of men as they live it, that of their concrete and historical existence." (Essays in Self-criticism, 1974/76)
Which is serendipitous >>1851716 - the reference to Edward Said pointed to Bakić-Hayden's Nesting Orientalisms.

>> No.18520029

You can’t justify anti-white racism behind “read a book”. I mean you can, but it won’t work.

>> No.18520037

>>18516924
>Are you equating modernity's materialism with Aristotle?

Get Larouchepilled, pseud.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y073B8KgiAU

>> No.18520040

>>18520006
Don't sully Whitehead with your drivel. Keep seething gweilo

>> No.18520046

>>18516775
>twitter screencap
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>> No.18520055

DEMAND CONGRESS BAN CRITICAL RACE THEORY
MAKE IT ILLEGAL TO HIRE ANYONE TO TEACH CRITICAL RACE THEORY

>> No.18520061

>>18520029
You cant be racist towards a white person.

>> No.18520065

we need to rip the guts out of the left

>> No.18520076

>>18520061
of course you can
it's called anti-white
it's very common too
look at this: https://www.dailywire.com/news/google-hiring-less-white-men-progress-robert-kraychik
> FLASHBACK: Google: Hiring Fewer White Men Is ‘Progress’
It's racist and blatant!

>> No.18520082

>>18520061
The democrats and google use anti-whiteness the same way the German Nazis used anti-semitism.
It's ideological racism!
They think there is a justified historical basis for their racism, and they demand that others be as racist as they are, too!
They actively promote spreading anti-white racism.

>> No.18520088

>>18520029
That's the primary strategy. It's incredibly effective; the average adult in the US has a 7th-grade reading level (if we're being generous). The population at large may intuit shenanigans, but a complex argument with unfamiliar jargon to a low-information lay-person with a predisposition to sympathy is more than enough.

>> No.18520091

>>18520061
The inferior races get together and gang up on whites. Jews, blacks, Irish get together and gang up. That's how much they hate whites! They're willing to work together to kill whitey! They are fuckin' wired for hating whites!

>> No.18520099

>>18518743
Because this is no longer a literature board. They don't want people being too smart.

>> No.18520111

>>18520061
And thus, you’ve justified racial hatred, the agreed upon issue for years, under a sense of retaliatory justice. Either everyone is equal in which case racial hatred is inherently wrong or the races are unequal in which case any sort of argument can be made for why one race is superior to another (morally, developmentally, etc).

>> No.18520133

>>18519881
>isn’t there some bbc cuckold porn you should be jerking off to?
rent free lol

>> No.18520149

>>18520055
Yes, at this point we should honest just do away with the formal study of the humanities until we can ensure that it will be free of leftists.

>> No.18520161

>>18518118
they are usually not that tranny friendly

>> No.18520162

>>18520088
This only demonstrates that the American brand of anti-intellectualism is too passive and moderate to deal with contemporary academia and those figures it selects for power positions.

>> No.18520171

Going to take my children out of school and teach them critical race theory because it wasn't on their curriculum.

>> No.18520176

>>18520111
There are no "races" - only a series of populations systemically repressed by colonialism/imperialism prior to the 21st-century, only to be further "othered" by the "nesting" described above. Reparations are due, and no matter the bleating (whether original sin or reverse racism), the victims will be crowned cultural Queens (as they should, slay).

>> No.18520198

>>18516775
Its crazy how you can tell how fat he is just based off his tweets

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>>18520037
>Get Larouchepilled, pseud.
> Burger "culture"
Yeah... no.

>> No.18520204

>>18520133
took you an hour to come up with that? your brain is toasted, my man

>> No.18520208

>>18520204
>your brain is toasted, my man
likewise buddy

>> No.18520215

>>18520208
>duh, no you
fucking case in point. Excellent job dummy.

>> No.18520224

>>18520215
thanks