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So let me get this straight; are these two fuckers the Plato and Aristotle of the Far East?
>Confucius (Plato) and Laozi (Aristotle)
Then who's the Socrates? (

>> No.18513916
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18513916

Buddha

>> No.18513947

>>18513894
Nagarjuna

>> No.18514006

>>18513894
They're more like the pre-socratics. In that we only have fragments or patchworks rather individual books.

>> No.18514108

>>18513894
both of them are different kinds of Socrates
is Zhuangzi Plato? then who's the other Plato?

>> No.18514124

ehh theres only one plato and aristotle

>> No.18514146

>>18513894
Laozi is too mystical and idealistic for being "the Aristotle of the East". I think, the school of names are more or less aristotelian, because they almost discovered logic.

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>>18513894
>who's the Socrates?

Yáng Zhū

>> No.18514194

>>18513947
>>18513916
Neither of them are far-east (which means China, Japan and Korea)

In any case, both Plato and Aristotle both are opposed to anti-foundationalism, for them it’s hardly better than sophism.

>> No.18514246

>>18513894
No...
Just no.

>> No.18514467

>>18513894
Fuxi for creating the trigrams of the I Ching, although as >>18514246 notes it’s not a great analogue.

>> No.18514500

>>18513894
Confucius has much more in common with Aristotle than Laozi does. But in reality they don't map neatly onto the early western philosophers, the development of eastern philosophy was too different.

>>18514108
Zhuangzi is like Diogenes if he bothered to write anything down. But again that's not really true.

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The "twin princes" universal archetype persists througout history, in all ambits; the subsequent diverse holotypes which it comprehends are the ones who make history, whilst stereotypes, at best, transfix themselves to the formers' storied lives.

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>>18515050
Where can I find your artwork?

>> No.18515097

>>18515060
They are just conceptual sketches; the ones that I have already posted: >>/lit/

>> No.18515127

>>18514500
To add on to what you've said, Plato and Aristotle are fundamentally opposed, whereas Laozi (it's not correct to call him "the founder of Taoism", but it works) and Confucius aren't. Laozi and Confucius (and Shang Yang) are all offering solutions to various problems that face China (and the world, really), and their schools overlap. You can't be an Aristotelian AND a Platonist without doing massive syncretic work such that it's more proper to just call you your own thing, but you certainly can be a Confucian and a Taoist (and a Buddhist and a Legalist) at the same time right out of the box.

>> No.18515153

Why are you posting this here and not /his/ retard

>> No.18515659

>>18513894
Plato is Socrates.

>> No.18515693

>>18513894
Laozi seems more like Socrates to me.
>The known that can be known is not the real known, Hermocrates
>Fascinating, Socrates. Truly you are the wisest sage under heaven. Will you expand on that?
>No

>> No.18515864

>>18513947
shit, im smoking some of that right now.