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18500721 No.18500721 [Reply] [Original]

Could perennial and natural sciences coexist in a traditionalist society?

>> No.18500752
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18500752

And just what, pray tell, is "perennial science"?

>> No.18500763

>>18500752
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perennial_philosophy

>> No.18500775

>>18500721
Only if Natural Sciences played a subordinate role

>> No.18500785

>>18500721
Why wouldn't they? Evolution, quantum physics, and all of the rest of that shit isn't science.

>> No.18500793

>>18500763
I know what that is. I'm asking why you are appending science to it and setting it up as a dialectic with biology/chemistry/physics etc.

>> No.18500841

>>18500785
Why do you think quantum physics and evolution are fake?

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>>18500841
Oh this is gonna be good

>> No.18500870

>>18500851
There are definitely good arguments to be made in favor of that position, I know of large group of biologists sceptic towards Darwinism and of physicists criticizing quantum mechanics

>> No.18500912

>>18500870
Sure but usually you have take a either a religious fundamentalist or a pomo angle on science denial so given the quality of /lit/ that's most likely

>> No.18502194

>>18500785
You can verify the basic claims of quantum mechanics with a few pairs of sunglasses

>> No.18502291
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18502291

Yes, they could, and they should. It's important to note that Evola and many others in the early Traditionalist school lived during a time where evolutionism was a lesser known and less rigorously proven belief. Even though he was intelligent, he wasn't a biologist. He rejected evolutionism on spiritual grounds, believing it merely was an extension of progressivist logic, and a violation of the perennial principle that things like consciousness can only progress from higher to lower, not the other way around.

It'd be absurd to deny natural scientific truth. Biological history doesn't change the truth of perennial science as a model for human spirituality.

>> No.18502379

we have BLM and the gender spectrum coexisting with hard science, perennialism might as well could

>> No.18502384

there's no such thing as a 'traditionalist society'. never have been, never will.

>> No.18502393

>>18502384

There hasn't been such a thing as a progressivist society either. They're both tendencies, orientations; they're not absolutes. The question is which should we strive towards.

>> No.18502394

I think you haven't understood the meaning of "sacred sciences" ("perennial sciences" don't exist).
Both coexisted in the same society, in the same environment, for thousands of years. They don't cancel each other; they complement.

>> No.18502412

>>18502393
if youre striving towards something, then it's progressive. tradition is an illusion.

>> No.18502468

>>18502412
>Dictionary-level use of the term "progressive"

>> No.18502606

>>18502379
How does blm and the gender spectrum clash with "hard" science?

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>>18500841
They are using the esoteric meaning of science.

>> No.18503488

>>18500721
Yes, I believe Jean Borella wrote a couple books on this topic. He's a physicist who allied himself with Traditionalism.

>> No.18503502

>>18502606
There are so-called scientists who literally say studying racial biology is pseudoscience and there are multiple genders that are independent from biological sex.