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18490997 No.18490997 [Reply] [Original]

>Start with Greeks
But where exactly? Pre Socrates or jump to Plato directly?

>> No.18491007

>>18490997
Homer and Hesiod

>> No.18491376

Read the sticky you nigger

>> No.18491379
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18491379

I want to read about pic related, which book to buy?

>> No.18491382

Hmm
I'd suggest you read Homer first, you could also read the Hesiod but that might not interest you
Next you could read Plato or the playwrights

>> No.18491474

>>18491379
iliad

>>18491382
Before reading Plato one should read Herodotus and Thukydides, then a book on greek history, and a book on the pre-socratics.
This is a solid foundation to then properly start with the greeks.

>> No.18491484

>>18491474
Oh yeah I forgot about the histories
I suppose it depends on why you're starting with the greeks, personally I'm not sure if reading the histories is all that important unless you're learning ancient greek

>> No.18491487

>>18491474
>iliad
obviously not

>> No.18491495

>>18490997
Start with, for philosophy, Plato, but before his later works (Plato has three periods) or any later philosopher like Aristotle, read the Presocratics. For poetry, start with Homer, Hesiod, Aeschylus, Sophocles and Euripides. For history, start with Herodotus, and read all of him before Thucydides.

This is still the tip of the iceberg, but it's essential to be cultured and to read the rest of the Greeks.

>> No.18491633

>>18491495
there is no point to start with plato before you have a deeper understanding of what greece was like. Nobody who wants to start with the greeks can skip homer (and hesiod)

>> No.18491642

>>18490997
Socrates nuts

>> No.18491655

>>18491633
Starting with Plato is perfectly fine if your main interest is in Philosophy rather than Literature more broadly.

>> No.18491671

>>18491379
Plato. He called you a fag.

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18491725

>>18491379
meanwhile here's what plato actually said

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18491739

How is this book? or should I get one by a different author?

>> No.18491750

>>18491655
You need to understand the Sophists Plato responded and named entire dialogues after. Take a few hours to get some broad context on the pre-Socratics and history of Athens.