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18480016 No.18480016 [Reply] [Original]

Do you agree with Houellebecq? Is it pointless to try and change the world and is art just a reflection of the times?

>> No.18480026

Pointless or not, there’s something heroic and fulfilling about throwing yourself into a lost cause

>> No.18481865

>>18480026
based

>> No.18481868

>>18480016
the pointlessness makes it fun

>> No.18481934

>>18480016
>Houellebecq
Who?

>> No.18481942

>>18480016
>Houellebecq
How is it pronounced?

>> No.18481948

>>18480026
Cringe

>> No.18481967

>>18481942
Who hell beck

t. Frog

>> No.18481969

>>18481942
just say wellbeck

>> No.18482688

>>18481942
Hool-beck-queue. Rhymes with barbecue.

>> No.18482717

>>18480016
yeah what a dogmatic boomer who can’t imagine a society with technology
>we can’t go back
he clearly doesn’t play poker
but i love him

>> No.18482724

>>18481942
woah beck

>> No.18482730

No, I like DFW's idea of what the novel does more. This ironic detachment makes us the "last men".

>> No.18482745

>>18481942
holla beck

>> No.18482779
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18482779

>>18482730
i prefer kafkas

>> No.18482801

>>18480016
Yes, but not in this sense. The real truth is that the world never changes in the first place. If you think the family unit is disappearing, you're an idiot.

>> No.18482813

>>18480026
based

>> No.18483616

>>18481942
just like quebec

>> No.18483636

>>18481942
Wellbeck. H in French is silent, so "oo-el-bek" but said quickly: Wellbeck

>> No.18483666

>>18482801
Very true, OP should read Parmenides

>> No.18483679
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18483679

It's not impossible to change the world. It's not impossible for a dedicated group of humans to fundamentally alter the course of history.

It's just that, to do it, you usually have to kill a whole lot of people. And as you might imagine this makes most people uncomfortable.

>> No.18483689

>>18482801
>If you think the family unit is disappearing, you're an idiot.
So the statistics and studies are lying?

>> No.18483704

>>18480016
People will do as they believe even when they know their actions don't have major impacts. It's stupid to sit down and write something like that.

>> No.18483707
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>>18480026
Every example I've found of it shows the opposite.

>> No.18483754

In social systems theory, for societies under functional differentiation such as ours, it's nearly impossible to change much.

>> No.18483761

>>18483754
>social systems theory
>functional differentiation
what's that?
t. idiot

>> No.18483778

>>18481969
>>18481967
Wellbeck. The frog who said 'who hell beck' is wrong, probably because he has an accent in English.

>> No.18483823

>>18483761
Basically just that society can be considered as a system divided into autopoeitic subsystems that perform different functions, law, religion, economy. Functional differentiation is contrasted to older forms of differentiation like stratified which corresponds to a feudal type hierarchy by its formal equality of citizens.

>> No.18483931

>>18480016
Source? I’d like to read the whole thing

>> No.18483942

>>18480016
>Family unit
Is something you believe in because you have been brainwashed by ads
Learn2history and you will see that family and broader social structures change to suit the environment they exist in
Now your task is to figure out how to stop clinging to some 20th century ideal of the consumer household and deal with reality as it is