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Why was Henry Darger's magnum opus never made available to the general public?

>> No.18459887

>>18459881
Because he was a pedo. Disgusting.

>> No.18459890

>>18459881
It is available online. They scanned the whole thing

>> No.18459911

>>18459890
Where? To my knowledge it was never released in its entirey in any form. Only some curated bits and pieces have surfaced, but the main body of the work remains confined to museums.

>> No.18460004

>>18459881
It would be a monumental task to organize and present his work in a coherent format. He was a completely disorganized schizo and left behind a huge mess.

>> No.18460050

>>18459881
Long, unwieldy, and ultimately not very good

>> No.18460349

>>18459881


CHRISTIAN LITTLE GIRLS BATTLING AGAINST THE SATANODEMIOURGIC FORCES OF EVIL —THE VVLGVS MUST NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.

>> No.18460376

>>18459881
Because no one's ever bothered to edit it into a readable state. As it exists currently, it's 15,000 pages and allegedly repetitive. The excerpts I've read are actually pretty good, though, so maybe someday it'll get edited.

>> No.18460386

>>18459911
http://www.idaillinois.org/digital/collection/intuit/search/

>> No.18460428

>>18459887
Was he a pedo? He sounds like a schizo who wanted to protect kids. I don't know anything about him but the art style looks familiar.

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>>18460386
>A work titled The The History of My Life, detailing Darger's early life, eventually evolving into a fiction about a tornado called Sweetie Pie.

>> No.18460437

>>18460349
>One idiosyncratic feature of Darger's artwork is its depiction of apparently transgender characters. Many of his girl subjects are shown to have penises when unclothed or partially clothed. Darger biographer Jim Elledge speculates that this represents a reflection of Darger's own childhood issues with sexual identity and homosexuality.[4]:166–175 Darger's second novel, Crazy House, deals with these subjects more explicitly.[

How do you cope, REI?

>> No.18460476

>>18460428
It's not really a style - it's collage and tracing using child models clipped from magazines and pulps.
>Pedo
Careful. You're talking about a proto-trans ally (retrospective, but that's a real sentiment). Myself, I've always thought the hermaphroditism present in his "story" was a mix of his poor technical skill, poor education (victim of the time) and lifelong virginity.

>> No.18460488

>>18460428
There is no real evidence he was a pedo. It's commonly assumed he did have a desire to protect children stemming from his own childhood trauma. He was raised in one of those abusive church run orphanages of yore where he got punished for being a masturbator. Some speculate he may have been in a homosexual relationship with his only close friend at some point, but most of his life he lived very reclusively.

>> No.18460493

Read the novels of Bernanos instead.

>> No.18460519

>>18460437
Maybe misremembering here, but I think in the documentary - In the Realms of the Unreal (2004), it's speculated that Darger was completely unfamiliar with the female body, hence the penises.

>> No.18460521

>>18460437


HOW DO I COPE WITH WHAT?

>> No.18460528

>>18460521
the girls are trannies

>> No.18460532

>>18460519
that's cringe indeed

>> No.18460555

>>18460528


HOW DO YOU COPE WITH BEING AN IDIOT?

>> No.18460570

>>18460555
At least I'm not ugly like you.

>> No.18460577

>>18460570


YOU DID NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION.

>> No.18460588

>>18460555
lol cum genius haha

>> No.18460596

>>18460528
To be fair, I don't think he knowingly made them trannies. I think he was legitimately ignorant of female sexuality to the point where he just assumed they had penises for the sake of urination in the same fashion as men.

>> No.18460617

>>18459881
>Why was Henry Darger's magnum opus never made available to the general public?

Read the thread.

>> No.18460689

>>18460386
Now which autistic /lit/izen will volunteer to edit all this stuff into a digestible edition?

>> No.18460700

>>18460386
>Copyright 2020 Kiyoko Lerner
God bless Fredrik Knudsen, it wouldn't surprise me if his video created enough public awareness Darger to compel the owners to digitize his work.

>> No.18460725

>>18460428
Even if he wasn’t a pedo, his work gives off strong inappropriate vibes. Sort of how if MJ never touched children, his conduct was highly inappropriate

>> No.18460736

>>18460725
That's fair. Although Darger never wanted it published, so blame the hipster liberals for promoting (exploiting) his art.

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>>18460725
>... his work gives off strong inappropriate vibes...


YOU KNOW TO WHERE YOU SHOULD RETURN.

>> No.18460753

>>18460725
>strong inappropriate vibes
fucking normalfags I swear to god

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>>18460725
>his work gives off strong inappropriate vibes

>> No.18460895

>>18460725
Maybe you're a prude? Remember the slogan of May 1968 - "Il est interdit d'interdire!" The professional consensus among psych theoreticians, not actual practitioners, is mixed. Some say that children lack the developmental markers necessary to model symmetry in relationships (Tanner Stages+Erikson), others claim that children can consent following Stephen Kershnar's outline:
>Consent isn't real, so nobody can consent...

>> No.18460935

Isn't it stupidly fucking long? Like, 20 books long or something?

>> No.18461002

>>18460895
>Kershnar

who?

>> No.18461037

>>18461002
Look him up, his work on pedophilia isn't difficult to find.

>> No.18461053

>>18461037
hard pass, he sounds like a malevolent shill

>> No.18461080

>>18460895
>being this much of a pedo apologist
wow anon maybe find some rope

>> No.18461114

>>18461080
It's not apologia, my dear moron. You've confused a summary for advocacy.

>> No.18461821

>>18459881
Is it good?

>> No.18461848

>>18461821
It's not, no - think Eddison's The Worm Ouroboros (1922) mixed with L'Engle's A Wrinkle in Time (1962), but the characters are religious loli futa.

>> No.18461906

>>18461848
Everything about that sounds fantastic though

>> No.18462778

Bump

>> No.18462965
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Golden glow, red glaze: colours of imperial nostalgia.

>> No.18463538

>>18459887
If he was a pedo that would make him based, newfriend.

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>>18459881
His magnum opus is his portfolio of collages. His 15 gorillion word epic is a mountain of bad fanfiction.

>> No.18463886

>>18459881
>>18459887
>>18460050
The real reason is copyright laws, his drawings were all basically copied over artwork from magazines, posters and advertisements
The main villain of His story for e.g was just a copied drawing of Tsar Nicholas

>> No.18463922

>>18459881
>Henry Darger
Who?

>> No.18463942 [DELETED] 

>>18463886
Yet another strike against Jewish copyright law.

>> No.18463972 [DELETED] 

>>18463942
A reclusive autist from Chicago who probably held the record for creating the single longest work of fiction in the history of mankind for about 40 years, before he was bested by other autists on fanfiction.net

>> No.18463974

>>18463922
A reclusive autist from Chicago who probably held the record for creating the single longest work of fiction in the history of mankind for about 40 years, before he was bested by other autists on fanfiction.net

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>>18463886
So this was John Manley the primary antagonist in the narrative, the Vivian girls were traced over advertisement covers

>> No.18464342

>>18463974
>longest work of fiction in the history of mankind for about 40 years, before he was bested by other autists on fanfiction.net
That was proven to be false, The 7 million words super smash bros fan fic was actually a Troll of sorts. Like There are over 100 chapters that simply consist of the the line "Priase Jesus! Priase Jesus! Priase Jesus!.......... repeated over and over to fill out the fic, Its just Copy/pasting a phrase a million times

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Wrote this poem to try to capture the feeling of his painting and life story.

i play among Painted beauty, painted new
with fresh pastel and wet with watercolor,
green leaves, skyblue sea, canary sun, each hue
in my dollhouse was painted by my mother,
even my skin is painted porcelain white,
but the paint cracks, sometimes there is another

world I see but few things, few shadows and few
old rocks cracked as by the darkness and the weight
of worm eaten, rotten trees, for otherly
eyes and hands placed them there, light could not fall through
them, I am also worm-eaten and cracked, light
does not know me, not until I am smothered,

cracked paint; dust, and all returns; painted beauty
is new again, gone is the ugly of night,
pink flowers, silver swords, each returns cutely,
everything is as it was, all is set right,
once more: I am painted again and again,
the soul is painted;and I am whole again.

>>18464342
The Loud house: revamped still has over 6 million words.

>> No.18464480

>>18464342
>>18464460
I think the current real longest fan fic that isn't just copypasta is a RWBY fan fic

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>>18459881
>pedo tranny schizo fantasies
just go to /lgbt/

>> No.18465855

>>18463992
Just slap a disclaimer on there somewhere
>no celebrities were harmed in the making of this novel, any resemblance to actual persons - living or dead - is purely coincidental, yadda yadda

>> No.18467858

>>18460050
u sure?

>> No.18467873

>>18464460
Nice poem m8

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>>18460895
>>18461002
>Kershnar has written over eighty articles and book chapters on such diverse topics as torture, affirmative action, reparations for slavery, pornography, hell, adult-child sex, discrimination, the most valuable player, capitalism, equal opportunity, slavery, sexual fantasies, and the nature of pleasure.

>He is the author of nine books, including Total Collapse: The Case Against Morality and Responsibility, Abortion, Hell, and Shooting Abortion-Doctors: Does the Pro-Life Worldview Make Sense?, Adult-Child Sex: A Philosophical Defense, and Gratitude toward Veterans: A Philosophical Explanation of Why Americans Should Not Be Very Grateful to Veterans.

No.

>> No.18468004

>>18467936
What is this guy a parody

>> No.18469662

>>18467936
>those bloodshot adrenochrome addict eyes
Hard pass

>> No.18469667

>>18467936
lets check early life