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[Anonymous No.18456165]

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[Anonymous No.18456171]

tell me again how the irish dude gets his fire powers

[Anonymous No.18456172]

>>18456165
The return of the spammer. Yes you exist, congratulations.

[Anonymous No.18456177]

what are some so bad it's goodcore genre fiction books?

[Anonymous No.18456181]

>>18456172
yeah, anime sucks mostly. hate this gay shit. uwu i like to be fucked (you will never see her fucked) im 12 years old and talk like a weeeeetaaaaard. wtf sort of entertainment is that.

[Anonymous No.18456187]

>>18456177

[Anonymous No.18456204]

>>18456165
Good gritty military sci Fi or grounded lost in space survival fiction?

[Anonymous No.18456210]

Anything like Warhammer 40k that has nothing to do with the Warhammer 40k universe? Perhaps something like Gundam?

[Anonymous No.18456250]

why do i never see kane mentioned here
based karl edward wagner btfos pseuds like bakker and abercrombie

[Anonymous No.18456313]

Ciaphus Cain books are based

[Anonymous No.18456318]

Fuck e william Brown

[Anonymous No.18456331]

>>18456250
isn't that rightmost cover also on a molly hatchet album?

[Anonymous No.18456341]

The Cradle books are based

[Anonymous No.18456357]

>>18456331
frazetta owned all the paintings he did and let everyone he payed used them. the painting was originally for kane but after the book was done molly hatchet probably saw it, thought it was cool and asked frazetta to have it for their album

[Anonymous No.18456408]

>>18456165
Discord: https://discord.com/invite/KWPCM7m
Book Club Read: Chasm City by Alastair Reynolds
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/89185.Chasm_City

> The once-utopian Chasm City -a doomed human settlement on an otherwise inhospitable planet- has been overrun by a virus known as the Melding Plague, capable of infecting any body, organic or computerized. Now, with the entire city corrupted -from the people to the very buildings they inhabit- only the most wretched sort of existence remains. For security operative Tanner Mirabel, it is the landscape of nightmares through which he searches for a low-life postmortal killer. But the stakes are raised when his search brings him face to face with a centuries-old atrocity that history would rather forget

[Anonymous No.18456420]

Embrace webnovels and leave the cuckoldry of Bakker behind.

[Anonymous No.18456447]

>>18456204
Goblin Slayer.

[Anonymous No.18456512]

Can you guys help me identify one or both of these novels I read long ago?
>guy accidentally kills death and has to take over his job
>set in a low fantasy modern world with enchanted trinkets
>once he becomes death he has an impenetrable cloak and a magic car
>resolves the central dispute in the book by going on strike so noone can die
and
>british guy crashes his motorcycle and gets sent to another world
>technology is in enforced stagnancy due to magic
>guy is a mechanic and invents steel for the locals
>there is a horseman but the horse is the sapient one and the rider is a mindless entity
>at some point the guy repairs his motorcycle and uses it to fight the local fantasy creatures

[Anonymous No.18456514]

Sex Books

[Anonymous No.18456524]

GrimACED grimACED GrimACED
Jesus fuck man just look up some synonyms PLEASE

[Anonymous No.18456529]

>>18456204
red rising is cool look into it

[Anonymous No.18456535]

I feel like I'm seeing a disproportionate amount of the word chagrin
is it just me?

[Anonymous No.18456560]

>>18456165
About to start Rendezvous with Rama by Arthur C. Clarke, anyone have thoughts on it? Did you enjoy it?

[Anonymous No.18456582]

Who pics the gay pictures in the OP?

[Anonymous No.18456583]

>>18456582
seethe

[Anonymous No.18456596]

>>18456560
I liked it well enough. The ending is an all-time classic. It's fairly clinical in tone and, when I read it, I wasn't used to books that were so lacking in narrative drama, so it was interesting in that respect. There was a game version that shifted to focus more on narrative drama, and I mention it only because the OST is godlike and fits the tone of the book really well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyEDjBDl7bM
I like the following song quite a lot, godlike ambiance https://youtu.be/EyEDjBDl7bM?t=745

[Anonymous No.18456628]

>>18456165
gay anime picture for gay bald men

[Anon No.18456661]

>>18456512
The first one is On A Pale Horse by Piers Anthony. I remember liking it and some of the others in the series

[Anonymous No.18456686]

>>18456596
Thank you for the input the OST really is amazing, I look forward to getting into it!

[Anonymous No.18456688]

Any stories where humans encounter a completely automated alien fleet?
Early sci-fi stories may have been riddled with alien controlled ships but now we know we can completely automate war with drones if we put the resources to it. And a star traveling species surely would.

[Anonymous No.18456756]

>>18456524
Reading Abercrombie I see

[Anonymous No.18456784]

>>18456688
Revelation Space's Inhibitors

[Anonymous No.18456808]

>>18456524
it's a good shorthand for a huge range of facial configurations

[Anonymous No.18456809]

>>18456524
Don't know what you're reading but, you should be allowed to use the word grimace once per quadrilogy.

[Anonymous No.18456821]

>>18456596
You may not like the comparison I'm about to make but it reminds me of a lot of the Ludibrium and Omega Sector tracks in Maplestory.

[Anonymous No.18456825]

>>18456688
The aliens in blindsight but it would be a spoiler to explain more

[Anonymous No.18456829]

>>18456825
Well what a nice coincidence. I'm reading it now.

[Anonymous No.18457043]

>>18456825
the other answer he got was also a spoiler so who cares really. i don't think it's possible to answer the question without spoiling.
>>18456688
forge of god and anvil of stars

[Anonymous No.18457059]

>>18456688
Stargate Universe Season 2.

[Anonymous No.18457257]

>>18456171
Long ago, his pappy laid down a cellar of whisky that he'd brewed himself, but the mix had become contaminated by a swarm of fire ants that got into it and laid eggs, then the whisky with fire ant eggs gets bottled up and sits for decades. One night when he feels a powerful thirst, he goes down to the cellar and opens the first bottle and drinks it, only then does he discover the ant eggs. Then giant mutated ants start bursting from the other bottles, breathing fire at him. He discovers that he's able to do the same thanks to the whisky he drank.

[Anonymous No.18457916]

Anyone have any recommendations for post-apocalyptic novels? I want more on the survival aspect, but a bit of low key sci-fi every now and again.

[Anonymous No.18457925]

>>18457916
>recommendations for post-apocalyptic novels
yeah. don't read swan song

[Anonymous No.18458020]

>>18456582
An autistic trannyfaggot who spemds 99% of his time on this thread defending litrpgs and shit

>>18456583
^This nigger.

[Anonymous No.18458119]

do you think inhibitor phase will be worth a read? i feel like the revelation space story is done and any more stories set in it will feel hollow

[Anonymous No.18458134]

>>18456688
Three body problem trilogy
Specifically book 2 the dark forest

[Anonymous No.18458149]

>>18456165
Based anime op making the cuck defense force seethe

[Anonymous No.18458366]

>>18456688
muv-luv

[Anonymous No.18458523]

>>18456560
I read it and thought it was OK. It's a sci-fi classic, but the story didn't hook me in hard enough to continue reading the series. The book is short, so you should have no problem blazing through it in a week.

[Anonymous No.18458535]

>>18458134
cringe: Book 1 -> first half of Book 2
based: second half of Book 2 -> Book 3

[Anonymous No.18458669]

>>18458119
It doesn't matter. You'll read it anyway. Thou must.

[Anonymous No.18458674]

>>18456165
How many gods would be a good number to have in my fantasy pantheon?

[Anonymous No.18458990]

>>18458674
223

[Anonymous No.18459448]

>>18458674
One god but a million fucking saints that people worship as well, like South American Christianity.

[Anonymous No.18459611]

Does anyone else keep a dream diary? It's greatly improved my dream retention and it helps me to notice common themes or places that I'm dreaming about. I mainly started doing it to aid with lucid dreaming but I still don't get them all that regularly.

[Anonymous No.18459633]

>>18459611
Nobody wants to know about your dreams Ma'am.

[Anonymous No.18459676]

>>18456341
Most of them are ''nothing happened the book''. Lindon runs around avoiding SS ranked enemies, then he level ups, and finally each book ends with a cliffhanger when an even more powerful enemy appears.

[Anonymous No.18459778]

What the heck is xianxia anyway, is it anime shit? Zoomer shit? How did it get started?

[Anonymous No.18459877]

What a disappointment.

[Anonymous No.18459922]

>>18459778
It’s Chinese martial arts fantasy

[Anonymous No.18460064]

>>18459778
It's a Chinese genre that started in the 1920s, and only exploded in popularity recently due to the proliferation of web fiction. The thing about xianxia is that, despite being an old genre by nature, is that it's literally perfect for the web fiction audience. It's all about cultivating your strength to become an immortal god-being. Meanwhile, web fiction readers are mostly VERY sensitive. They want ungodly strong protagonists and absolutely no seemingly illogical behavior (including emotional / disturbed behavior). Xianxia is perfect for this, since there is nothing more rational to do in a combat setting than boost your own power infinitely high until you are immortal and the strongest person in the world. There is also, of course, the JRPG "numbers go up" appeal to simply witnessing a protagonist accumulate powers, abilities, and generally wives. It is the ultimate formula to hook web fiction readers.

You can find traces of this obsession in popular western web fiction as well. Putting aside Xianxia clones/parodies, one of the most popular english web fictions of all time is something called Mother of Learning, which essentially involves the protagonist grinding his magic skills up in a situation where he is more or less immortal. In Japanese fiction, there's the entire "oretueeee" genre. Overall, what web fiction readers want to read more than anything else is an ungodly strong protagonist who's in no danger and makes only rational moves. If this is zoomer, then yes, xianxia is zoomer despite it's history.

[Anonymous No.18460103]

>>18460064
the absolute state of modern fiction

[Anonymous No.18460393]

>>18458535
Book 3 is poop
Book 2 is kino all the way thru
Book 1 is alright

[Anonymous No.18460517]

>>18456165
Any good books on creating a pantheon of gods for a setting? I really want it to feel authentic and not that lame shit in most fantasy where you can clearly tell the author hasn't studied mythology or pagan religions in general.

[Anonymous No.18460702]

>>18460517
just get a real one and change the names
if you dont want to do that then the only help i can give you is the idea of god always begins with one god which seperates into many

idea of a father
then the father needs a wife
then he needs children then he needs etc.

[Anonymous No.18460717]

>>18460064
too bad non japanese asians can't write anything to save their lives

[Anonymous No.18460747]

>>18460717
the entire genre is piss it doesn't matter which way their eyes slant

[Anonymous No.18460831]

are there any other authors like PKD? pulpy in style but deep in its themes?

[Anonymous No.18460900]

>>18460831
Some of Lem's books, I guess?

[Anonymous No.18460931]

>>18460747
I was speaking more broadly because chinese "literature" is trash too and gooks can't even get that far

[Anonymous No.18460990]

>got told that my fantasy story was too unrealistic because the protagonist was a short guy that was paired up with a tall girl

[Anonymous No.18460997]

>>18460990
ok heres what you do
stop calling him a guy and say he's a femboy
hope this helps and i'll be in touch once you've made enough money to owe me royalties

[Anonymous No.18461010]

>>18460990
make him 5'3'' but remind the the reader of his 14'' cock every other page and I will buy

[Anonymous No.18461015]

any recos for a w40k-esque dystopian piece that goes into daily city life, bonus points for detailed architecture descriptions.

[Anonymous No.18461094]

>>18459877
I saw a news article the other night called JEWS IN SPACE: Jewish Influence in Science Fiction underneath a big old picture of Asimov and I vowed then and there that I would never be reading any of his shit.

[Anonymous No.18461150]

>>18458119
>any more stories set in it will feel hollow
there are a bunch more stories already set in it - see the prefect

[Anonymous No.18461161]

Fucking brainwashing or hypnotism in any form
that shit gay
that shit is cuckolds level of gay

[Anonymous No.18461187]

>>18460990
Short "men" are a repellent to a majority of people, both male and female. It would be easier to sell a book about transsexual dragons than a manlet protagonist.

[Anonymous No.18461241]

>>18460990
Chin up, lad. I'm 5'7, it's not a death sentence.

[Anonymous No.18461382]

>>18461161
Mind-fuckeries are vile, but also alluring, they have the same attraction as cuckoldry, so you're not wrong in them kind of being in the same vein

[Anonymous No.18461404]

>>18461161
I saw Derren Brown live once, I could almost swear he was using plants, but I don't think he was. I just don't understand how that bollocks works on people, the NPC meme is very real. He's a very clever bloke though.

[Anonymous No.18461408]

>>18461161
>>18461382
The Second Apocalypse has literally brainwashed/hypnotism-induced cuckoldry and anal gay sex, which is why it's hands down the best series ever written.

[Anonymous No.18461421]

>>18461161
The idea of the MC being mind fucked isn't as revolting as the idea of MC's companion being mindfucked into betraying the MC.

[Anonymous No.18461433]

>>18461421
obviously
who wants to be betrayed
like Cao Cao said, I would rather betray the world, then let the world betray me.

[Anonymous No.18461479]

>>18460064
its sad that at the very least, isekai has gotten some very good deconstructions about the nature of escapism and how being in a fantasy world won't magically solve all your problems. there has yet to be sincerely a good wuxia/litrpg thats an actual deconstruction rather than just a parody/satire. the closest piece of work would be in /v/ territory which is unironically, undertale

[Anonymous No.18461489]

>>18458535
The downfall of humanity as we know it was singlehandedly instigated by and later twice ensured by woman

A man discovered Dark Forest Theory, and another man developed lightspeed travel.

Yeah, I'm thinking based

[Anonymous No.18461500]

>>18460517

You answered your own question. Study real-world mythology and its foundations

[Anonymous No.18462037]

>>18456165
Anyone else finding the storm light archive a chore to get through? I’d rather not drop it but christ I just want to be done with it so I can read something else.

[Anonymous No.18462240]

What is the best collection of Conan?

[Anonymous No.18462272]

>>18461187
>What is the Lord of the Rings, starring literal midgets.

[Anonymous No.18462283]

>>18461241
Helps when you stand on your wallet.

[Anonymous No.18462288]

Nothing is as good as Malazan. You folks were right about Sanderson though. I enjoyed the first two Stormlight books, but he really shit the bed on the third and I haven't bothered reading the fourth because of it.

[Anonymous No.18462359]

Does Tolkien or Bakker have a better-constructed world? or am I just retarded for even asking and of course the answer is Bakker?

I've read and really enjoyed Bakker, and am now beginning to read Tolkien for the first time

[Anonymous No.18462400]

>>18462359
totally meant to say Tolkien **

[Anonymous No.18462423]

>>18462359
Bakker's worldbuilding is extremely derivative of Tolkien, the point where the lines of homage/tribute and rip-off are blurred.

>The Cûno-Inchoroi Wars = Wars of the First Age
>The Ancient North = The realms of Arnor
>Dûnyain = Dunedain
>Illiserû = The elves of the Falas
And so on.

Tolkien's worldbuilding is obviously much more extensive. He spent an entire life doing it and cooked up many full working languages and their histories. Bakker "remixes" the Silmarillion with Dune and human history (particularly Greco-Roman-Byzantine). The only thing really unique about Bakker's creation is the gigadamned rape aliens.

Not that Bakker's a slouch at worldbuilding, it's just that he writes in a very genre-self-conscious way which befits his postmodern approach to fantasy. The Wertzone put together an extensive History of Eärwa, it's probably the closest thing we'll ever get to a Silmarillion style historic compendium of Bakker's world. It's a fun read desu.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1R_Gp-xTjsEXQBvkZQENi6dliyk8SFeHT/view

[Anonymous No.18462428]

>>18462423
>Dûnyain = Dunedain
how the hell did he get away with that one

[Anonymous No.18462437]

>>18456165
Read Revelation Space

[Anonymous No.18462451]

>>18462423
thanks for the response. Almost done with The Hobbit and while I know it's a kids book, it's pretty damn comfy. I'm familiar with that Wertzone link. I'm not as much of a fantasy person (I came to Bakker only when I heard he liked philosophy), so I'm excited to get more into Tolkien's world.

[Anonymous No.18462515]

I wish Bakker wrote more about the Unification Wars. Kellhus literally picking up ships from the harbor of Invishi and force-throwing them into the city sounds based as fuck.

What percentage of the New Imperial population was ever converted to Zaudunyanism? I feel like it was no more than 70% of the populace, probably much less in some places. The Empire seemed to be held together with violence and duct tape. Makes sense, as its primary (only?) purpose was to field the Great Ordeal.

[Anonymous No.18462685]

>>18462272
Come on now, the real manly hero of LOTR is Aragorn. The hobbits are noble and fated creatures, but they're literally subhumans, not unlike irl manlets (minus the noble and fated).

[Anon No.18462725]

>>18462685
>completely misses the point of LotR
good job

[Anonymous No.18462747]

>>18462725
Leave our resident retard alone, please.

[Anonymous No.18462753]

>>18462725
>>18462747
t. manlets

[Anonymous No.18462773]

>>18462272
Short "men."

[Anonymous No.18462869]

Anyone here listen to audiobooks? Home life is a little hectic so I dont get to sit down and read as much as I like. I have plenty of time to listen at work tho.

Finished a few books narrated by Ray Porter (Bobiverse 1-4)

Any other good recommended narrators/books?

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.18462979]

>>18456165
Chasm City, Revelation Space - Alastair Reynolds (2001)

This was the second book published in the Revelation Space series and it's excluded from the trilogy, which is a reasonable decision, as it can entirely work as a standalone novel. Although there are connections with the other books, they aren't of much importance and mostly serve for series worldbuilding and trivia. As for the order you should read this, it may be better to read it after the first book, which would be the publication order. I almost always read series in publication order and perhaps I should have with this one as well. If you read this after the third book in the trilogy, it may feel like none of it's a surprise and everything is already known. I didn't particularly feel that way but others have.
As with Reynold's other books, I found this in severe need of hundreds of pages to be omitted, yet it reads quickly enough. His writing style continues to be both be fine overall, yet only moderately engaging at best, as most of the time I found myself oddly detached from everything that was happening. In some ways that was for the better because if I were more engaged I would've had less tolerance for the various events that occur that I found to be entirely ridiculous, which is quite a common feeling for me when I've read his books. I found the mystery and twists were foreshadowed early and often, but I don't know if that would be a common experience. I don't think this detracted from my overall enjoyment, but it's difficult to be confident about that.
A reductive and brief summary is: A guy has lost his memory then wanders around for many 100s of pages and then regains his memory. The End. It's very different from the other Revelation Space books, so don't expect a space opera, but rather more a mix of investigative mystery, revenge thriller, and tourism. These differences didn't matter to me and I liked it just as well as the other books in the series, although that isn't really praise. I read through my reviews of the trilogy and I'm certainly not as upset now as I was at the time. I'll read more Reynolds in the future and see how it goes, though mostly as group reads.

Rating: 3/5

[Anonymous No.18463182]

I liked Robopocalypse and saga of the seven suns.

[Anonymous No.18463212]

>>18463182
saga of the seven suns is so underrated. I haven't finished it all yet though. I'm up to the sixth book, Metal Swarm. I took a break for awhile but I should get back to it.

[Anonymous No.18463230]

>>18456524
>>18456756
Glokta licked at his empty gums.

[Anonymous No.18463254]

>>18456524
FROWNED

[Anonymous No.18463380]

>>18461479
>Much reconstructions much subversions
Cringe. Let people enjoy their paper fantasies

[Anonymous No.18463405]

I'm looking for feedback on a dust jacket for a space opera short story that I'm just waiting on cover art to be finished for before I release it. How's this sound?

>Radio transmissions from Earth have awoken a cosmic being that was formerly a black hole for all intents and purposes. These transmissions are 1,500 years out of date, giving this entity time to gain a sense of self and to gain knowledge of Humanity. But one day the broadcasts go dark. Out of curiosity, the entity journeys towards Earth with the intent of greeting the Humans that brought it to life and to see why the signals have stopped.

Apologies if this should have gone in another thread. I normally visit /tg/'s writethreads but they're super dead as of late.

[Anonymous No.18463467]

>>18463405
if the rest of the story is written this clumsily you really should consider doing another revision

[Anonymous No.18463488]

I am on book seven of Dresden Files. Book five was really good, book six was a little meh. Book seven is supposed to be really good right?

[Anonymous No.18463501]

>>18463467
Eh, the dust jacket could do with some work, yes. The rest of the story is being edited by someone who knows what they're doing so I'm fairly confident the main content is solid. I generally suck at summaries and self-advertisement, which is why that first go is so poor. How's this as a revision?

>A black hole gains sentience when it begins to receive radio transmissions from Earth. In gaining a sense of self, it also comes to view Humanity fondly. However, one day the broadcasts cease abruptly. This drives the entity, Null, to travel towards Earth to investigate what has become of Mankind.

[Anonymous No.18463624]

>>18463501
Anime is for retards.

[Anonymous No.18463844]

>>18463488
Yeah, they get better starting with book seven all the way through fifteen, with the exception of book thirteen. I haven't read the two that came out last year, so I can't comment on them.

[Anonymous No.18463861]

>>18463844
The final book is absolutely horrid. You can tell Butcher was phoning it in and only writing as an obligation to finish a series he no longer has any motivation to write.

[Anonymous No.18463937]

>>18463488
>>18463844
>>18463861
lads are you telling me that almost all 15 books of that are worth reading?

[Anonymous No.18464002]

>>18463212
Don't read the sequel series, it's absolute shite. His editor must have been asleep when he read it, literally every POV change, which is every chapter, he basically does a rundown of what's been happening for that character again. Every fucking time.

[Anonymous No.18464032]

>>18463937
I started reading them back when a new Dresden Files novel was being released every year or so, I wouldn't have done so if I knew we'd end up with a six year gap between releases and a burned out author that supposedly still has another six or seven books to phone in before the series will be concluded.

[Anonymous No.18464115]

>>18464032
oh ANOTHER six or seven books? damn, when you said "final book" i thought that was the conclusion.
no way am i picking these up now then.

[Anonymous No.18464180]

>>18462288
He's a bit wafty in the third and fourth. I would say though that if you liked the Dalinar stuff in the third stick with it.
He still meanders too much with his other characters but overall im enjoying 4 more than 3.

[Anonymous No.18464192]

>>18464115
I'm not >>18463861, I'm a different anon. Sorry for the confusion.
I've only read the first fifteen books, but since >>18463861 says the newest two are awful and Butcher's website says there's supposed to be 3-4 more "case books," plus a "Big Apocalyptic Trilogy" to cap things off, I think I'll be giving up on The Dresden Files.

[Anonymous No.18464238]

>>18463624
Anime is based.

[Anonymous No.18464248]

>>18464238
And so are Japanese light novels.

[Anonymous No.18464259]

Would it be cringe to insert a real world culture into a setting? I was thinking of having literal Celts invading a fantasy world ala Irish mythology.

[Anonymous No.18464279]

>>18464259
Worrying about cringe is cringe. Write whatever you like you dumb dork.

[Anonymous No.18464297]

>>18464259
>>18464279

[Anonymous No.18464370]

Bought my dad The Book of the New Sun for Father’s Day and he never read it. I wish I had a dad that read (he used to but he’s an alcoholic now)

[Anonymous No.18464410]

>>18464370
Feelsbadman. He'd probably get a lot more satisfaction out of reading those books than getting drunk again, and he'd feel fresh and healthy the next day instead of rough. Such is drug addiction. I bet you'd really enjoy talking about the book with him too, I know I'd love to have someone irl I could discuss it with. I bought my best friend Shadow of the Torturer but he's never going to finish reading it, and even if he did slog his way through it I can already tell it's not for him.

[Anonymous No.18464420]

>>18456341
Just finished Bloodlines, i didn't like it as much as the others but still decent, i got back into books thanks to audible and Cradle but after listening to over 50 works in a few months i still have to find something that hypes me as much as that series
I'm accepting any suggestions though

[Anonymous No.18464442]

grim dark
you can only take so many despair before you just lose interest and just lose interest in the story

it's like the veil has been pulled back and you see the author with his puppets and strings going hehehe this is such torture porn, I bet the readers are going to fucking hate it, hehehe...

and at that point I just completely lose interest

[Anonymous No.18464449]

>>18464410
I think he likes plain language because he studied engineering so it would be a slog for him too if he picked it up. I tried to give him Slaughterhouse Five which I read it about half a week because it’s easy to pick up. But he didn’t get halfway through that either. Your friend is probably cool in other ways but you should maybe join a book club or discord for science fiction fantasy, then meet new friends through that.

https://discord.gg/TfBrHjXj

[Anonymous No.18464458]

>>18464442
>i don't like thing
Read something else then.

[Anonymous No.18464471]

>>18464442
>you can only take so many despair before you just lose interest and just lose interest in the story
wrong

[Anonymous No.18464477]

>>18464471
I'm not sure I'm explaining it right
but it'd be like threatening to shoot a guy while he's falling off a building to his death, or something among those lines
you know?

[Anonymous No.18464495]

>>18464477
Grimdark fantasy or science fiction can only be boring when it’s something like Warhammer.

[Anonymous No.18464501]

>>18464477
Or like shooting a man before throwing him out of a plane.

[Anonymous No.18464506]

>>18459877
Like everything he's written. If it weren't for the alien sex it would probably be the most Asimov book ever. Frontloaded with boring exposition, characters are paper thin. The bad guy is a bureaucrat, but the real enemy is ignorance

[Anonymous No.18464510]

>>18464477
>>18464501
ok, I guess I'm seeing where you're coming from

[Anonymous No.18464699]

>deregister kindle oasis from amazon because I no longer share that account
>it doesn't just remove the ebooks that were part of the accounts library, it deletes all the books I sideloaded as well. my bookmarks, highlights and notes are all fucking gone
why

[Anonymous No.18464716]

>>18464699
They've done you.

[Anonymous No.18464914]

hmm....
I think reading fantasy is turning me bi
or maybe that's just the lack visual stimulus doing the talking
taking out the masculinity in terms of looks of homosexual relationships and putting it into purely emotional terms

[Anonymous No.18464921]

>>18456187
i mean it wasn't amazing but it was fairly normal fare PKD, no?

[Anonymous No.18464938]

>>18458535
book 1's MC is literally nothing, and the translation was less readable (I wouldn't say "worse", that's not the point of translating) but it still had lots of cool ideas

other two blow it away though

[Anonymous No.18464950]

>>18461489
lmao I think the first was more by the cultural revolution. I see your base though

[Anonymous No.18464957]

>>18464914
does it trouble you?

[Anonymous No.18464969]

>>18462979
A slightly long review. I enjoyed paragraph two, it didn't overstay it's welcome. I felt the first paragraph was the sort of information that you should have offered upon further query, not opened with. Paragraph three could have been merged with two, dropping the blurb-like aspects

Rating: 3/5

[Anonymous No.18465011]

>>18464957
not really, more like a confirmation or a discovery

[Anonymous No.18465019]

>>18464699
>getting a kindle
that's where you fucked up man, you should have got a Kobo; they're slightly more expensive but you can upgrade the internal storage (its just a normal micro SD card), and you can bypass the registration entirely and still have access to the web browser and stuff like that

[Anonymous No.18465023]

>>18464914
I know what you mean. I can feel more deeply for a man than for a woman, but it's not sexual. With women I tend to mistake lust for something more, but it's only lust. Try fapping to actual gay porn with masculine men and you'll find out if you're really bisexual though (I'm not).

[Anonymous No.18465047]

>>18464699
>connecting your kindle to internet
that's where you fucked up

[Anonymous No.18465078]

Ok bros, I gotta come clean; I'm only about 10% into this and its actually not horrible? I never watched the show but I do know some of the major spoilers and deaths so I'm not expecting to be too surprised, so far I've been enjoying it; GRRM's prose is nothing special, very simple and functional and maybe a bit repetitive (also what do fantasy authors have against using 'said' as a dialog tag? I saw another anon's post complaining about how the author will use anything but 'said' and I've noticed the same thing in this book: GRRM will use shit like 'she suggested, 'he promised,' 'he growled' and almost anything else but 's/he said'). Character work is where GRRM really shows his writing skills; there are bits and pieces of actually great character writing scattered throughout; my only complaint so far is that its difficult to keep up with all the families and houses and names and characters he just throws at you (names especially, up until the most recent chapter I thought Ned Stark and Eddard Stark were two separate characters and I was really confused). But like I said, I'm only 10% so maybe my thoughts will change; If I like it I think I'll read up to book three and just skin the synopsis

also
>Dany is only 13 when she starts getting pounded by the dothraki dude
so there wasn't any outrage or anything when GRRM started writing about 13yr olds breasts and pussies? ok then

[Anonymous No.18465085]

>>18464506
>The bad guy is a bureaucrat,
Using the moon as a vessel to cruise through space has to be one of the most retarded things I've ever read in SF.

[Anonymous No.18465130]

Wouldn't life in Valinor get terribly boring after a few thousand years? Singing, dancing, making beautiful things, worshiping the Valar, day in, day out. It makes sense that the passionate Noldor would get sick of it and crave adventure in Arda.

[Anonymous No.18465141]

>>18465047
To bring this conversation back on-topic, the reason I initially connected it was to buy there is no antimemetics division. still one of the better works of sci-fi I've read.

[Anonymous No.18465147]

>>18465078
The books are good. Not sure I'd recommend anyone investing themselves in them when there's no chance at all they'll ever finished, but since you've said you're only reading up to book 3 that's a pretty good place to drop it (book 3 is the best, in my opinion). You could be doing worse with your time.
One thing I really like about the books is all the prophesies and prophetic dreams that aren't touched on much in the show, or they don't go anywhere. Jaime has a particularly good one around the time he goes on a completely different character arc to the show — instead of going to Dorne with Bronn and letting his sword do the talking he actually sets out with Ser Ilyn Payne (the mute executioner) and starts trying to make peace using diplomacy. The show really shit the bed there, and it wasn't the only time.

[Anonymous No.18465159]

>>18465141
I bought that book sight unseen from Amazon after seeing the author was an SCP writer. I'm glad to hear it's good. It should be coming on Monday. Is it long?

[Anonymous No.18465201]

Where are the designated shitting streets in Lord of Light?

[Anonymous No.18465217]

>>18465201
Perhaps India finally became a superpower and was able to master the toilet.

[Anonymous No.18465236]

>>18465130
True elves were created for that life.
The ones that left were adopted.

[Anonymous No.18465242]

>>18465159
it's very well structured and to the point from what I remember - explores all the most interesting ideas that follow from its premise, escalates toward a grand finale, resolves its character arcs in an appropriate way and makes its exit.

[Anonymous No.18465541]

>>18465078
>If I like it I think I'll read up to book three and just skin the synopsis
That's a good idea. Books 1-3 are good. Books 4-5 are where GRRM loses control the story. 4-5 are functionally one book, as he has so many perspective characters that they're split between the books, that is, book 4 follows half of the characters and book 5 follows the other half. So everything is ballooned out so far that he probably can't bring it back together. They also end on cliffhangers you'll probably never get any resolution for. And the series isn't going to end with book 6 if he ever actually publishes it, there's no possible way.

[Anonymous No.18465583]

>>18465541
4 and 5 definitely have their good bits, but they're a lot rarer than in the earlier books, especially following on from 3 where so much happens. You'll definitely be dreading every Daenerys chapter, but then you've also got Vic-with-the-big-dick who has some of the best chapters in the whole series. I did enjoy Jaime's chapters a lot too, as well as the stuff at The Wall, and of course Reek. But yeah, everything you said is correct.

[Anonymous No.18465592]

>>18464969
>A slightly long review.
In comparison to what? 384 words isn't "slightly long".

> ,
comma splice

>it's
Its

> not opened with
Quite possibly, I just wrote whatever came to mind without much consideration to order.

> 3/5
I agree.

[Anonymous No.18465609]

>>18456688
The Invincible by Stanisław Lem

[Anonymous No.18465631]

>Power? bad
>Individuality? bad
>Serving the God-ordained rulers unquestionably? good
>Having willpower and free thought? bad
>Smolness and weakness? good

Why is Tolkien's cathcuck morality like this?

[Anonymous No.18465668]

>>18465078
>Ok bros, I gotta come clean; I'm only about 10% into this and its actually not horrible?
It IS good.
Its just people judge it by terrible TV show.
Juts compare this scene in books and show, show was dumbified for the most bottom of the barrel.

>so there wasn't any outrage or anything when GRRM started writing about 13yr olds breasts and pussies? ok then
Well this was 90s you could grab them by the pussy, gangrape after prom and download cp from clearnet. World progresses ultra fast these days.

[Anonymous No.18466096]

>>18464914
It sounds like you're reading porn anon. I never had that problem and I started reading fantasy over three decades ago.

[Anonymous No.18466130]

>>18464180
I'll probably get suckered in once the trade paperback version releases. I keep hearing that it's better than book three which is a good sign. I feel like Sanderson's writing quality is all over the place. I really hope book five ends up being as good as the first two. It would suck to go out on a whimper.

[Anonymous No.18466149]

Reading the three body problem, around 120 pages in just after the video game part
I have no interest in this. I don't understand why i should care about why the laws of physics don't exist or whatever is causing people to see a countdown./spoiler]
Does it change? Does the book actually make us care? I'm very tempted to just skip and figure out what the whole plot twist is gonna be but... i had this recommended to me and kind of don't wanna shit on the person recommending it.
Honestly if this turns out to be the world is a simulation/god exists or some other similar corny shit presented as something new, i'm gonna shit in an envelope and send it to china.

[Anonymous No.18466169]

Reading the three body problem, around 120 pages in just after the video game part
I have no interest in this. I don't understand why i should care about why the laws of physics don't exist or whatever is causing people to see a countdown. I mean at least not for the reasons hinted at in the book so far.
Does it change? Does the book actually make us care? I'm very tempted to just skip and figure out what the whole plot twist is gonna be but... i had this recommended to me and kind of don't wanna shit on the person recommending it.
Honestly if this turns out to be the world is a simulation/god exists or some other similar corny shit presented as something new, i'm gonna shit in an envelope and send it to china.

(Edit: Deleted and reposted cause i fucked up the spoiler parts.)

[Anonymous No.18466240]

>>18466169
>why i should care about
It's an interesting premise. Why read any sci fi at all?

It's revealed to be aliens soon.

[Anonymous No.18466253]

>>18466240
it started out better with the shit going on around that sattelite dish and weird stuff happening. But the video game part really turned me off.
Thanks for replying. Well i've read my fair share of sci fi, but nothing recent has really been up to par with the old guys, clarke, asimov etc. So i was thinking of giving this a shot but so far it's meh tier. Maybe some spoilers will keep me going for a while longer.

[Anonymous No.18466568]

>>18463501
Much better. Much less clunky.

[Anonymous No.18466695]

>>18456688
The Remnants series by KA Applegate

[Anonymous No.18466760]

>>18463501
>In the depths of space, Mankind's radio transmissions have had a peculiar effect. A black hole has come to life; sentient, curious, and passionate about it's creators. When the broadcasts one day stop, there is only one thing to do. Find out why.

>Join our intrepid adventurer on a quest starkly alien, yet undeniably human at it's heart. Discover the Feed and Seed's true origins, and what formerly may have been!

[Anonymous No.18466770]

>>18466169
It’s a more interesting premise than your predictions. I recommend powering though, not only because the sequels are much, much better, but also because towards the end of TBP there’s some cool ideas

[Anonymous No.18466787]

>>18466760
Shit this is terrific. I’d read

[Anonymous No.18466823]

>>18466568
Thanks. Though I gotta give >>18466760 props. That sounds way better than what I have. Short of the Feed and Seed line, would you mind me using it?

Also, I figure it's okay to post an AO3 link. It's not going to have the full story, but maybe enough to wet people's appetites for more? Anyways, feel free to tell me how bad/good it is:
https://archiveofourown.org/works/31410491

[Anonymous No.18466871]

Anytime you want to discuss or review something your statement should be no longer than a couple of short sentences at most. No one cares to read more than that. You don't matter as much as you think you do.

[Anonymous No.18466940]

>>18466871
Dumb take, much like "all people should behave according to this strict set of rules" takes are. People read what they're interested in reading. Just because you don't give a shit and belittle longer reviews doesn't mean everyone does. There's no need to arbitrarily toss out demeaning statements like "You don't matter as much as what you think you do," since that's obviously refusing to communicate with reviewers as intended. The implicit statement behind an anonymous review on 4chan is not "I matter, and you will read this because you care about me." The implicit statement is "You are interested in this work, and I will describe my thoughts/experience, which are inherently personal and might end up lengthy." Just because you like being an edgy misanthrope who purports to not give a fuck about anyone doesn't mean other people are autistic losers who feign disinterest in subjective and personal reviews. The problem isn't long reviews, it's you trying to pretend there's one right way to live and everyone else is a stuck-up retard for not being as woke as you are.

[Anonymous No.18466968]

>>18466940
TL;DR

[Anonymous No.18466974]

>>18462428
Dûnyain = Dunedain = Dimmadome

[Anonymous No.18467441]

Anyone read John C Wrights "Golden Age Trilogy?" Is it any good?

[Anonymous No.18467523]

>>18465130
such is the nature of our human concept of "heaven" yet Inkling Cath-cucks keep writing fanfiction about it

[Anonymous No.18467528]

>>18460064
why don't these people just play videogames instead of proliferating this trash

[Anonymous No.18467922]

>>18464002
Oh wow okay, that's a shame. Thanks for the heads up.

[Anonymous No.18467930]

>>18464699
You could have just not deregistered it? Why did you need to do that?

[Anonymous No.18468199]

>>18458674
whatever number you pick make it odd, that way there can never be an even power dynamic

[Anonymous No.18468208]

grimACE update.
In the most recent chapter grimaced was used 5 times. stay tuned for more grimACED updates.

[Anonymous No.18468264]

>>18468208
Just do a find and search to see how many it is overall. If it's physical then you're just being silly.

[Anonymous No.18468271]

>>18467930
>implying anyone wants to be in complete thrall to Dark Lord Bezos

[Anonymous No.18468303]

>>18468264
any why would I do that?

[Anonymous No.18468508]

>>18465631
you didn't get Tolkien

[Anonymous No.18468809]

>>18466253
The series doesn't really pull back the curtain until halfway through the second book. The scale and scope increases exponentially from there

[Anonymous No.18468856]

I have nothing to contribute, but I love the original artwork of the Foundation series. I'll share them here.

[Anonymous No.18468860]

>>18468856

[Anonymous No.18468866]

>>18468860

[Anonymous No.18468867]

>>18468856
>>18468860
We don't care. stop posting these.

[Anonymous No.18468892]

>>18468856
>>18468860
>>18468866
michael whelan is amazing

>>18468867
cope anime tranny

[Anonymous No.18468928]

Is any urban fantasy good? I want orcs that can't fit in their mid-sized cars, and hacker elves. Am I looking in the wrong place?

[Anonymous No.18468944]

>>18468928
Try reading some of the Shadowrun books. They should have that, I believe.

[Anonymous No.18468953]

>>18468860
Now this looks good.

[Anonymous No.18469051]

>>18468944
Huh, I thought they were just videogames. I'll check them out.

[Anonymous No.18469095]

>>18469051
Nah mate, Shadowrun has a ton of literature thanks to being the main cyberpunk tabletop roleplaying game for many many years. It might be crunchy, and the "devs" couldn't edit a children's book, but it's been a mainstay

[Anonymous No.18469335]

>>18466940
Based. Besides, if it’s too long for you don’t read it?

[Anon No.18469530]

>>18466871
>this is what tiktokers actually think

[Anonymous No.18469554]

sci fi books with this kind of feeling?
casual, interstellar travel

[Anonymous No.18469593]

>>18466770
Thanks! I’ll power through then!

[Anonymous No.18469632]

>>18469554
Pandora's Star and its sequel.

There's no actual space travel at all, beyond the kind of probes we use today, because wormhole technology links planets and is used for interstellar exploration.
Travel is as casual as it can be, they use literal trains to drive through wormholes anchored on planetary surfaces.

[Anonymous No.18469730]

>>18469530
TS;DR

[Anonymous No.18469804]

Good grief, I keep seeing people using Kvothe as their username in various video games I play. How are these books so popular? Who looks at Kvothe and thinks "Yes. This is a great character that I want to name myself after."

[Anonymous No.18469918]

>>18460517
i can't imagine there are any books specifically about making up your own pantheon
if you don't want it to look like you haven't studied mythology, maybe you should study mythology

[Anonymous No.18469937]

>>18460990
if she's unusually tall for a girl, like over 6 foot or something, its probably fine. girls are the opposite to men in that shorter = more desirable. unusually tall girls are often insecure and will settle.

[Anonymous No.18469955]

>>18462359
they're both great for different reasons and unrivalled in that area.

>>18462423
cool link, i used to check out that guy's blog back in the day when blogs were the best way to keep up with sffg recommendations and releases. i'm surprised he's still going.

[Anonymous No.18469961]

>>18464370
weird thing to buy someone that doesn't read

[Anonymous No.18469980]

>>18469804
what game are you playing where you're seeing this?

[Anonymous No.18470147]

>>18469980

[Anonymous No.18470171]

>>18470147
violently unsurprising

[Anonymous No.18470272]

>>18467930
>missing the point this hard
if you deactivate your steam account does it delete all games you have installed on your pc?

[Anonymous No.18470330]

>>18470272
You can sell your ereader, in fact I did that with my old one. That's probably why amazon wipes non-pirated books from it. The books are your property, not the property of the ereader.

[Anonymous No.18470338]

>>18470330
stop coming up with flimsy excuses, Bezos-shill. If I wanted to sell it I'd obviously reset the damn thing.

[Anonymous No.18470344]

>>18470338
Pirate your books like a normal person, dumb boomer. Do you think anyone else here doesn't strip their books of DRM after they buy them? Fuck you can even return them after that and get your money back.

[Anonymous No.18470369]

>>18470344
Imagine giving your money to an (((author))).

[Anonymous No.18470376]

>>18470369
this
you think just because you had a thought and decided to put it on paper, you deserve to get monetarily compensated for it?

[Anonymous No.18470438]

>>18470376
There's more people than you'd think who are paid to post on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.18470450]

>>18470438
They're not posting their own thoughts.

[Anonymous No.18470517]

Is A Fire Upon the Deep actually worth reading?

[Anonymous No.18470697]

ccan someone recommend to me a good fantasty book in medieval times with good lore and worldbuilding like game of thrones or something

[Anonymous No.18470791]

>>18470697
You might try The Lies of Locke Lamora, I thought the lore and worldbuilding were good, and it's just a pretty entertaining read all around. I enjoyed the pirate sequel as well, haven't read any more of the Gentleman Bastards series though.

[Anonymous No.18470819]

>>18460900
Where should I start?

[Anonymous No.18470841]

Is the expanse series any good?

[Anonymous No.18470858]

>>18470841
if you're interested, the books are definitely the way to go
at least the books are unaltered by real world actor dramas
so

[Anonymous No.18471336]

What's a Space Road trip-esque kind of novel
not necessarily road trip tiers of stakes or threats
but like travelling through space as if visiting various locations on earth, but just in space, utilizing various space travel methods
visiting different planets or stations and seeing different cultures and meeting different species

[Anonymous No.18471364]

>>18470819
Personally I really like Solaris

[Anonymous No.18471446]

Do you guys reckon that around 1,600 words for a chapter that's about a duel would be fine for the first draft?

[Anonymous No.18471542]

>>18470819
Depends on the reader's temperament to some extent - Imo the Star Diaries into Futurological Congress makes for a great entry point as well.

[Anonymous No.18471547]

>>18471446
does the scene do what it's supposed to do? that's what matters. if you don't have any more words, then you don't have any more words.

[Anonymous No.18471557]

>>18471446
the point of a first draft is to be a first draft anon
just do it

[Anonymous No.18471572]

>>18471547
I guess it, I might add a bit more dialogue or even background information after a while.
>>18471557
You see I don't really write that much and was wondering whats a generally accepted amount of words you should shoot for a chapter.

[Anonymous No.18472055]

>>18466871
T. Someone who thinks he matters way more than he does

[Anonymous No.18472093]

>>18460990
I mean it's a fantasy story, it doesn't matter if the relationship is completely unrealistic.

[Anonymous No.18472109]

>>18470517
It's pretty decent for the world building, but the series is total shit.

[Anonymous No.18472118]

>>18471446
Like the other anon said, it's a first draft, most of it will get thrown out when you start rewriting everything anyway.
>B-but, what if it's too short
Some books have chapters that are legit three pages long, the point of a chapter is to break up the narrative between distinct events, not to fill a certain page quota.

[Anonymous No.18472131]

Tell me /lit/, what is the worst example of "autistic world building" you've come across?
I'm talking about those stories where the author was obviously more interested in showing off the world he spent years creating but forgot to write an actual story around it so the whole thing just feels like a loosely connect private wiki.

[Anonymous No.18472143]

>>18472131
dune, mother of learning, nine princes in amber

[Anonymous No.18472145]

>>18465130
Like >>18465236 said the Elves were made for that purpose since their existence is tied to Arda (the Earth). Human were given the "gift" of limited lives so they do not want to live there forever.

[Anonymous No.18472180]

>>18472131
Alastair Reynolds' Inhibitor series. Honorable mention to Vernor Cringe.

[Anonymous No.18472276]

>>18472131
Not specific, but stories that go
>There's this kingdom and another kingdom and empire and dukedom and these are their differences. There's this religion and this is the magic system, also like ten PoV characters to cover all factions and this PoV gets this information because that and that.
Basically, writig like you are retelling a book to a friend instead of describing the life and interactions of select characters.

[Anonymous No.18472284]

>>18472276
Or maybe it's closer to trying to make a history book for your world instead of showing the relevant events.

[Anonymous No.18472334]

Are there any good Fantasy books with actually erotic sex? Like an author who is as horny as Bakker, but hates neither himself nor his audience. So no excessive rape, gore or overly weird fetishes.
Better than GRRM preferably.

[Anonymous No.18472351]

Give me some good epic high fantasy with good worldbuilding and well written characters. Bonus points for well written female characters.

[Anonymous No.18472437]

what do you guys think about dune?

[Anonymous No.18472447]

>>18472334
well-written non-degenerate sex generally isn't erotic for the reader, it just makes you appreciate that the characters love each other. If you just mean something along the lines of a james bond movie but in fantasy land read one of those weeb novels.

[Anonymous No.18472518]

>>18472447
>well-written non-degenerate sex generally isn't erotic for the reader, it just makes you appreciate that the characters love each other
That is kind of what I meant.
Any books like that? Somehow every author who writes sex scenes in their stories is complete shit at writing in general, and I wondered if there were exceptions to the rule.
Something like K Le Guin I guess, I think the Earthsea books had one and those aren't terrible Fantasy. But even there the curse struck, as the scene was in the later books which are more controversial and sometimes regarded as shit.

[Anonymous No.18472524]

>>18461408
Interracial cuckoldry gay rape.

[Anonymous No.18472525]

>>18472518
>SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX
Shut the FUCK up dude, if you love sex so much why don't you marry it?

[Anonymous No.18472528]

>>18472525
Sex Books

[Anonymous No.18472536]

>>18472525
Americans truly are the scourge of the earth. You deserve every curse that is currently coming over your country.

[Anonymous No.18472553]

>>18472518
>>18472525
>>18472528
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y081_I1ottw

[Anonymous No.18472577]

>>18472553
Is there actually written Japanese SF or is it all just cringe "light novels", manga and movies?

[Anonymous No.18472599]

>>18472577
Legend of the Galactic Heroes was written in the 80s and is more like a standard book series than LNs

[Anonymous No.18472619]

>>18464259
>protagonist finally vanquishes his enemies
>out of nowhere a portal appears and Mongels come through with Genghis Khan and ransack the protagonists kingdom
definitely an interesting niche

[Anonymous No.18472625]

>>18472118
Okay thats a good point. Dont know why I was so caught up on the word count. Thanks man

[Anonymous No.18472692]

>>18472619
Make sure to describe how the mongols have their black slaves ravish the daughters of the kingdom's nobility in front of their families before putting everyone to the sword.

[Anonymous No.18472889]

>>18472692
Huh, I only just learnt that 'ravish' is a word. I've heard it before, I just always thought people were saying 'ravage'.

[Anonymous No.18472897]

>>18472889
I meant ravage, I mistyped.

[Anonymous No.18472904]

>>18472897
>ravish: abduct, rape, or carry away with emotion
Nah, you're good, lad.

[Anonymous No.18472994]

>>18472577
Yes, plenty, look at their Seiun Awards.

[Anonymous No.18473228]

I’m reading toll the hounds and I swear to god of kruppe and iskaral pust ever meet I’ll blow my brains out

[Anonymous No.18474046]

is the Complete History of Middle Earth worth reading?

[Anonymous No.18474089]

>>18474046
No.

[Anonymous No.18474343]

>>18472131
So how exactly does one go about writing a book with a rather unique setting without it inevitably succumbing to "world building faggotry?" Obviously one of the big things is realizing that most setting won't work and you'll have to just leave it out of the story but are there any good examples of a unique world where the setting is well woven into the narrative?

[Anonymous No.18474379]

>>18474343
Make it a background thing. Hint at things enough for the reader to understand what's going on, make enough of it relevant to the story, and so on. Bugmen who only care about muh lore will whine and complain about your characters and wish you'd spent more time writing your own wikia, but you can ignore them.

[Anonymous No.18474381]

>>18474343

[Anonymous No.18474391]

>>18474343
Execute the iceberg theory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceberg_theory

[Anonymous No.18474435]

>>18472351
Look up The Deed of Paksenarrion by Elizabeth Moon, it's basically an epic fantasy about about a girl that runs away from home to escape an arranged marriage, joins a mercenary company, and eventually becomes a paladin.

[Anonymous No.18474562]

>>18474435
how far into the books does paladin happen

[Anonymous No.18474772]

I have a confession: I almost solely read Japanese light novels these days and haven't read a proper fantasy book in ages.

[Anonymous No.18474911]

>>18470272
Is this sarcasm? You quite literally have to be logged into your account to play your steam games. There are a FEW, emphasis on FEW games that are DRM free that you could probably back up the game files and still play them.

Steam is a really bad example to try to defend this point.

[Anonymous No.18474948]

>>18474562
I don't remember exactly, but about half way through book two, Divided Allegiance. I suppose it's a bit of a slow burn in that regard, but it's not lacking in character development or worldbuilding by any means.

[Anonymous No.18475147]

>>18474772
It's fine. I learned Japanese and read nothing but Japanese works for a long-ass time, which actually makes me like western fantasy more now that I'm coming back to it. The distinct western flavor (both in plotting and the flow of text itself) is a lot stronger now that I'm not desensitized to it.

[Anonymous No.18475307]

>>18411442
>Read the gate of ivrel and the sequels.
It was just ok. Moved in the boomer book pace, where characterization is very small, and it jumps from event to event without much transition. The world building and plot were both fine. Like the ideas were interesting. But it just wasn't told in a compelling way. I can't say it's bad, but I'm going to opt out of the sequels. Unless you say it gets better?

Also, it was kind of ridiculous how everyone kept badgering Vanye with questions he had no answers for. A lot of the drama was carried on the back of Vanye not being able to answer questions to the satisfaction of anyone. Got kind of old after a while.

But if someone is looking for a nice little adventure book, I'd still recommend it.

[Anonymous No.18475325]

Finished
Eye of the World (6/10) will not be continuing series for now
The Darkness that Comes Before (8/10) already bought Warrior Prophet

[Anonymous No.18475340]

>>18472334
>>18472518
There are a couple sex scenes in Hyperion that while making me uncomfortable, did actually convey true love and intimacy between the characters.
I personally don't like detailed sex scenes in stories at all.

[Anonymous No.18475349]

>>18472334
Neuromancer has one I think

[Anonymous No.18475365]

Good recs for new sword and sorcery, sword and planet, and non cringe dark fantasy?

[Anonymous No.18475507]

>>18475325
Shame, second and third book are some of the best fantasy novels I've ever read.

[Anonymous No.18475516]

What if Galadriel had taken the ring?

[Anonymous No.18475548]

>>18475507
EotW drug on too much for me. Wish someone would edit the series down.

[Anonymous No.18475560]

>>18475548
Nah, it's great the way it is. You are entitled to your opinion though.

[Anonymous No.18475563]

>>18475516
She would have Usurped Sauron and things would have been pretty much the same.

[Anonymous No.18475588]

>>18475516
Then instead of a dark lord you would have a queen, not dark but beautiful and terrible as the dawn.

[Anonymous No.18475731]

>>18475516
She would've been the most based being since Fëanor.

[Anonymous No.18475772]

>>18475548
>Wish someone would edit the series down.
That's happening with the show.

[Anonymous No.18476272]

i've read elantris, aether of night and the entire SA but i can't get past the first mistborn book, i've tried like 3 times now

[Anonymous No.18476380]

i just picked up CS lewis space trilogy from a used bookstore, any thoughts?

[Anonymous No.18476801]

>>18476380
The first one I remember being very interesting; he is surprisingly good at making very strange and enchanting alien worlds, kind of like the opposite of Lovecraft's cosmic horror while still keeping the strange cosmic-ness of it, if that makes sense; I don't remember much from the second one except for a couple scenes that stick in my mind (the floating islands, the cave); I haven't read the third one but I've been wanting to go back and re-read them all

[Anonymous No.18476990]

>>18470517
Yes doggo story is fun.
The world Vinge creates is probably pretty close to what tech will become if we don't end up wiping ourselves out.

[Anonymous No.18476993]

>>18472334
Snow Crash scene with YT and Raven.

[Anonymous No.18477003]

>>18472334
>Better than GRRM preferably.
>Her cunt became the world
Shit had me laughing.

[Anonymous No.18477008]

>>18477003
A lot of his sex scenes are fucking meme. Makes you wonder if he had sex.

[Anonymous No.18477013]

>>18477003
>her cunt became the world
what does this even mean, i'm stumped

[Anonymous No.18477015]

>>18477008
>And suddenly his cock was out, jutting upward from his breeches like a fat pink mast.
Sex scenes shouldn't be comedic.

[Anonymous No.18477020]

>>18477013
>She was sopping wet when he entered her. “Damn you,” she said. “Damn you damn you damn you.” He sucked her nipples till she cried out half in pain and half in pleasure. Her cunt became the world.

A sex scene that involves rapeplay

[Anonymous No.18477024]

>>18477020
i know the context but it still doesn't help

[Anonymous No.18477027]

>>18477024
She most likely had an orgasm, its the only explanation I have left.

[Anonymous No.18477041]

This shit is so narmy. How did it get past the editors?

[Anonymous No.18477043]

>>18477041
I thought George no longer uses any editors?

[Anonymous No.18477050]

>>18477008
>"The three men were erect. The sight of their arousal was arousing"
Guy is fucking redundant that's for sure.

[Anonymous No.18477052]

Forgot the Cersei narration, arguably the best one when describing sex.

>Whilst you snored, I would lick your sons off my face and fingers one by one, all those pale sticky princes. You claimed your right, my lord, but in the darkness I would eat your heirs.

>She sounds as if she is being gored, the queen thought. For a moment she let herself imagine that her fingers were a bore's tusks, ripping the Myrish woman apart from groin to throat.

[Anonymous No.18477057]

New thread
>>18477055

[Anonymous No.18477062]

>>18477052
Cersei chapters were always a blast to read. Something fun reading about an unhinged woman.