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18455486 No.18455486 [Reply] [Original]

Why is it so hated?

>> No.18455493

>>18455486
it really isn't

>> No.18455502

people who hate semicolons just don't know how to use them; a bunch of idiots if you ask me.

>> No.18455511

>>18455486
It's much like you; people misapprehend it as
autistic, when it's often just wrong.

>> No.18455515

>>18455511
kek

>> No.18455524

>>18455486


NESCIENTS HATE WHAT THEY FAIL TO UNDERSTAND.

>> No.18455528

>>18455493
whoops i read op as "hard" not hated. semicolons are based though, don't let anyone dissuade you from using them

>> No.18455735

>>18455502
Came here to post this

>> No.18455749

i couldnt read moby dick because of this

>> No.18455763

>>18455502
Incorrect usage; please kys

>> No.18455822

>>18455486
ESL/brainlet filter

>> No.18456042

>>18455486
because people hate questions especially when they are in greek. Fucking Socrates!

>> No.18456049

>>18455486
Because people don't read enough 19th century English literature.

>> No.18456054

>>18455763
This should have been a full stop, it was two clauses.

>> No.18456058

>>18455486
Those who oppose the semi-colon or morons; I hate all who oppose the semi-colon, the most perfect piece of punctuation in the English language.

>> No.18456065

>>18455486
It is perceived as pretentious and faux-sophisticated, and whether you like it or not, nowadays most of its correct usage is also motivated by the idea to appear intelligent, further reinforcing the dislike to most people. This isn't about books or anything as much as general text communication that most people actually use; using a semicolon in a chat or the likes is simply inappropriate and social misconduct.

>> No.18456546

>>18455749
>i couldnt read moby dick because of this
Can you read, at all?

>> No.18456563

>>18455486
Pseuds don’t know how to use it.

>> No.18456567

>>18455486
>Why is it so hated?

I use it and I'm a cunt and so it's probably getting a bad reputation that way; I'm sorry, guys.

>> No.18456580

>>18455486
> Samuel Beckett spliced his way merrily through such novels as Molloy and Malone Dies, thumbing his nose at the semicolon all the way. James Joyce preferred the colon, as he thought it was more authentically classical. P. G. Wodehouse did an effortlessly marvelous job without it, George Orwell tried to avoid the semicolon completely in Coming Up for Air (1939), Martin Amis included just one semicolon in Money (1984), and Umberto Eco was congratulated by an academic reader for using zero semicolons in The Name of the Rose (1983).

Whether you like it or not, they are just not that necessary.

>> No.18456585

I’d rank the colon lower than the semicolon. It’s only useful for denoting a list. Using it for big reveals is lazy and childish writing.

>> No.18456610

>>18456585
>Using it for big reveals is lazy and childish writing.
Don't care; it gets bitches wet

>> No.18456625

>>18456610
In his rush to produce a response he had missed what I was referring to: the colon.

>> No.18456644

>>18456625
>he thinks my response needed a colon
I argued for using colons for big reveals to make bitches wet. The only thing that makes bitches wetter after a colon is if the big reveal is The Electric Boogaloo.
>tl;dr- it's just good grammar not a metajoke gone wrong.

>> No.18456649

>>18455486
Pretentious af

>> No.18456657

Answer me this: what semicolon can't be replaced by a comma?

>> No.18456667

>>18456657
>One of the main uses of semicolons is for lists where commas will cause ambiguity
The ones that aren't incorrectly used, or separating two dependent sentences.

>> No.18456668

>>18455486
only acceptable in poetry

>> No.18456674

>>18456668
What about prose poetry?

>> No.18456678

>>18456674
thats easy, prose poetry is not poetry

>> No.18456682

>>18456678
Is recited poetry poetry?

>> No.18456699

>>18456682
why wouldn't it be?

>> No.18456920

>>18456699
Platonists

>> No.18456927

>>18455822
>ESL
Semicolons are not exclusive to English.

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18456999

Why is it so hated?

>> No.18458036

>>18456999
would've been funny if the lower dot was a comma

>> No.18458162

>>18456657
>what semicolon can't be replaced by a comma
Pretty much any semicolon that is used correctly. The only expection to this rule is when it is used in lists, but there the use of a comma would make things more confusing. However, in almost all cases the semicolon can be replaced with a full stop, even if it effects small changes in rhythm and tone.

>> No.18458311

There is never a reason to use an exclamation point. If the reader can’t infer urgency / excitement from the words alone, it’s shitty writing.

>> No.18458330

>>18455486
It’s rudimentary—use it to link two separate but related clauses. Retards just don’t understand it.

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18458336

>>18455486
Where I'm from this is a question mark.

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18458395

>>18455486
Because roasties and cuckolds worldwide get them as tattoos to show that they’re ”survivors” of mental illness or whatever; extremely gay.

>> No.18458404

>>18455486
I like it

>> No.18458429

>>18456054
This should have been a semicolon; it was two sentences

>> No.18458479

>>18458336
Really;

>> No.18458561

>>18458330
Brainlet here, please explain me. I don't understand

>> No.18458581

>>18458311
How dare you!

>> No.18458842

I don't know how to use most punctuation at all.
t. 30 y/o

>> No.18458875

>>18455486
because people don't know how to use them

>> No.18459600

>>18455486
it is not; it is based

>> No.18459630

>>18456927
No but it's true that the correct use of , ; and other - varies from one language to the other. It's quite arbitrary, making it easy to spot ESL like I. Great writers can get by without them: maybe we should avoid them too; semi-colons that is, not great writers.

>> No.18459647

>>18456999
Subverting nations.

>> No.18459652

>>18456580
Semicolonlet cope

>> No.18459700

Bucks are getting out of pocket; furthermore, they need to be broken. Did I do it right?

>> No.18459742

>>18455502
This break would work better as a colon or an em dash, since everything after the semicolon isn't an independent clause.

>>18455511
This is correct usage.

>>18455763
This is likely ironic incorrect usage, since the first element isn't an independent clause.

>>18456054
This is a run-on sentence.

>>18458429
This is correct usage.

>>18459700
>Did I do it right?
Yes. Though, I don't understand your first clause.

>>18458875
This is absolutely the reason. They're not hard to use in themselves, but I'm finding that a lot of people don't actually know what constitutes an independent clause.

>> No.18460026

>>18459630
This: I believe it's quite acceptable (at least, from books I've seen) to have what would be considered "run-on" sentences, comma'd, in French.

>> No.18460041

>>18455486
Because teenage pseuds use it everywhere once they learn what it is, in order to show off that they know it.

>> No.18460129

>>18458311
O! anon here does not understand the use of the exclamation mark. The change in tone that an exclamation mark incurs is a vast one, yet—as should be obvious—its overuse is to its own detriment; if one is excited by everything, then nothing is particularly remarkable. One ought to use ! with an exclamation, but nowhere else.

>> No.18460171

Joyce had it right: semicolons and commas are shit

>> No.18461116

>>18459742
based grammar police

>> No.18461171

>>18458429
kek

>> No.18461830

I'm mad noone addressed this >>18456042, someone please give me a (you)...

>> No.18462184

>>18455486
People don't know how to use it and it's functionally covered by other punctuation.

>> No.18462195

>>18458429
This was a semicolon; this was one sentence containing two independent clauses.

>> No.18462386

>>18456058
>or morons